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Guest Sermon: Bob Newland Asks, Where’s Jesus?

And now for this Sunday’s meditation, we turn to Brother Bob Newland:

My Facebook feed has, for several days, been vastly overpopulated with bright red squares filled with big white block letters designed by the posting parties to impress upon the celestial mob boss that (s)he is the object of the posting party’s abject devotion.

The object of Brother Newland's meditation, from Facebook search results, retrieved 2023.11.19.
The object of Brother Newland’s meditation, from Facebook search results, retrieved 2023.11.19.

This came across my Facebook feed today. “If you believe Jesus is coming back, respond with ‘Amen.'”

I’m like, “Where’s he been? I didn’t even know he was gone.”

I know the legend of Jesus. He was from Nazareth, was born near Bethlehem. He grew up to be an evangelist, although a rather pleasant representative thereof, compared to, say, Joel Osteen or Jimmy Swaggart. People started quoting him and challenging authority, which, even if only involves speaking the truth, is still to this day a dangerous profession.

When he was about 33, he rode into Jerusalem on a donkey to the adulation of a crowd. About a week later he was dead, more or less. There is nothing unusual in history about such an event, except for the ‘or less’ part.

Somebody started a rumor that Jesus was the product of a sexual (well, make that “spiritual”, if you must) union of some sort between God and his 13-year-old mother. The Son of God, conceived “immaculately”? It held a certain cache. I feel the need to mention here that Jesus is, in a rough translation to English, “Josh” or “Joe”.

During the next 20 centuries, there grew a multi-national populist movement holding Jesus up as martyr (I agree with the characterization) to a system that both attempts (feebly) to provide equity in quality-of-life and to “provide incentives to the resourceful.” This worked well on an astonishingly-broad demographic. “Work hard, be good, love Jesus, spend eternity in….”

Well, as a marketing tool, eternal bliss appears to be the Swiss Army Knife—it has a blade for everything—of advertising gold. An advancement toward Eternal Bliss (EB) is worth what it’s worth, and various people sell it at widely-variant prices. A crafty, or simply cyber-educated, salesman of EB can shower us with teasers at no expense except his time.

Seriously, though, where has Jesus been, and what will have to happen to make His reappearance timely? It probably wouldn’t work any better for Him to ride a donkey into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday in 2024 than it did in 0033. Will He come back? What’s the hold-up? I mean, things are bad, man.

Maybe He’s been here for a while. He probably would have adopted an alias, or several. If He wanted to travel, I am sure the Son of God, part of the ecclesiastical triumvirate, could manage getting a passport. Maybe he’s trying to change the system from the inside? He could have been here for quite a while, like forever, if He wanted.

So, why is it so tough, even if you’re Jesus, to make life tolerable for about half of those alive now? Who runs things around here? Creating a dominus has always been a tricky deal. If they’re presented as being indomitable, their subjects want to know why they can?t make the crook down the street stop collecting protection money from them. So, gods are generally  presented as having their own problems. It helps them fit in with the rest of us.

But if you have the same problems as the rest of us, then are you really a god? The god of Abraham claims several times, in one of the most popular editions of “His” word, that he created the Universe, and that he knows everything and knows how everything is going to turn out. That leaves those of us who would like to believe that we have something to look forward to after our kidneys quit working with a bit of mental balancing  between what we know from experience and what we’d like to believe. The King James Edition says God is jealous of other gods. If one accepts that, one realizes that the god being depicted is, indeed, created in one’s own image.

Jesus may show up someday in a burst of rapture and fear (Can I get an “Amen”?). I have a different theory. Jesus may have been among us for a few years, maybe 2000 or so. This is assuming he actually walked out of the tomb three days after Good Friday, 0033. He learned, in the early days, that becoming known as a “Messiah” is a dangerous process. Crucifixion is an unhappy experience, even if you do live through it. His life may or may not be lonely. He hangs out and tries to get folks to adopt his practice of charity. Joel Osteen seems to have grasped that part of the message fairly well.

Maybe it’s Mike Johnson (Michael of Shreveport), current Speaker of the US House of Representatives, who said the Bible was his directive for legislation. While the prospect of wiping out whole national populations seems extreme as you read this, popular opinion changes over time and slaughter. If Mike is Jesus, he has my attention.

By the way, John Prine has placed Jesus in Italy and England in “Jesus, the Missing Years.”

Bob Newland unordainedly preaches green-leaf hedgehoggery in and around Hot Springs, South Dakota.


  1. sx123 2023-11-19 08:22

    Takes a long time to hopscotch across the billions of habitable planets in the universe…

  2. Mark B 2023-11-19 08:27

    Great way to start a Sunday!

  3. e platypus onion 2023-11-19 08:31

    The know it all apparently lives in Soo Falls as a used car salesman.. He certainly “Joshes”,alot.

  4. Mark B 2023-11-19 09:08

    What better way to keep people in line than to claim to wield the keys to etetnal paradise or torture, and to lionize the ‘We’ and demonize the ‘They’. Constantine’s ‘conversion’ was likely more of a practical governance matter than spiritual.

    Christianity started as an escape from monotheistic theocracy. America started as an escape from monotheistic theocracy. Paul’s letters immediately focused on the challenges of not returning to one in warning new christans not to get sucked back into all the legalism of theocracy. But its just too darn effective at keeping people in line and holding power.

    I am not exactly sure what to do with Jesus, but I can certainly agree with a guy that said he was their best view yet of what God was really about, chewed out church leaders using faith as a way to gain power on earth, and focused his time with the less fortunate. If thats what God was trying to get across, I can buy that A or The God sent him.

    All this other nonsense and laws and codes and threats of hell and destruction from our ‘loving god’ is the same record on repeat. As Ecclesiastes states, Nothing new under the sun, all meaningless’

  5. grudznick 2023-11-19 09:24

    If Jesus is among us, he is deeply embedded in the Deep State and working to keep the Demon Weed outlawed.

  6. Richard Schriever 2023-11-19 10:19

    Jesus comes and goes as he/she/it pleases. Did anyone test it’s DNA?

  7. All Mammal 2023-11-19 11:49

    I was gettin into your swell meditation, Bossman. Until these thoughts kept interrupting the flow:
    The children of Palestine indicate our devotion to the teachings.
    Religion is pretending like we know something that we don’t. People who claim they know what happens after we die are liars.
    The lead poisoned golden eagle is our legacy. We will haunt with ghost nets until we go towards the light.
    Maybe stop forcing your hopes and dreams onto a man. A man? Way too basic. Switch it up and something cool might happen.
    It isn’t that miraculous to get illiterate people to think you’re the messiah. Trump did it.
    The children are the test and we are flunking hard. Save your soul- get stoned and plant a tree.
    Ditch the man and worship the mother. She returns the love. Jesus wasn’t sacrificed. He was murdered for being fruity. He liked to party, I heard.
    Oh, and I bet He looked like Colin Kaepernick.

  8. jerry 2023-11-19 13:56

    What a philosopher that Mr. Newland is, thanks man. Those truths you bring out will make some squirm, so be it.

  9. Mark B 2023-11-19 14:13

    All Mammal.. truer words never spoken:

    “It isn’t that miraculous to get illiterate people to think you’re the messiah”

    Thank you

  10. Guy 2023-11-19 14:20

    Could Jesus be living in the spirits of those who strive to live their lives as he did even with their faults, choosing to love and forgive?

  11. Guy 2023-11-19 14:21

    The “secret place” Jesus talked about, could that be the soul in a person?

  12. Arlo Blundt 2023-11-19 14:45

    By His own admission, His Kingdom is “Not of this Earth.” Whatever His origin or His final dispensation, He is a wonderful role model to follow in this life.

  13. e platypus onion 2023-11-19 14:48

    If there was a kristian gawd, how could you explain the presence of magat kristians who defy the 10 commandments every day?

  14. e platypus onion 2023-11-19 16:07

    Rosalyn Carter passes away at 96. She had just recently joined hubby in hospice.

  15. Nix 2023-11-19 16:19

    I just finished my yard work for the year.
    Came into the kitchen, opened up a nice, ice cold
    Oak Aged Rye Lager, fired up a left hander and
    Opened up the Free Press to relax.
    I read your post and I do believe that the neighbors heard me laugh.
    I needed a laugh today.

  16. grudznick 2023-11-19 17:34

    It is written that Jesus was left-handed, Mr. Nix.

  17. Bob Newland 2023-11-19 18:58

    Haysooce looks a good deal more like Colin Kaepernick than he does like Mike from Shreveport. In all respects.

  18. Todd Epp 2023-11-19 19:12

    Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition,

  19. Steve Hickey 2023-11-19 23:37

    Boring. I don’t miss Bob. What’s not boring is 200 men in Gaza having Jesus appear to them in a dream on the same night.

  20. Bob Newland 2023-11-20 07:39

    The mere mention of Haysooce has stirred the ashes of irrelevance and raised the dust of hypocrisy. Steve Hickey has risen!

  21. larry kurtz 2023-11-20 07:47

    Jesus appears every day in the fields of California and the Southwest to pick the fruits and vegetables Professor Hickey pays a mint for in Alaska.

  22. Steve Hickey 2023-11-20 08:04

    I take part of that back. I do miss Bob, and Larry. Jesus loves and died for you both, and me, and for the guys in Gaza. Happy Thanksgiving. Go Chiefs.

  23. Dicta 2023-11-20 08:23

    Nothing says “a man of the lord” like swinging in, casting a few stones, and then riding off into the sunset. Sanctimony is a helluva drug, folks.

  24. larry kurtz 2023-11-20 08:25

    It’s difficult to imagine Jesus of Nazareth playing or even rooting for an American football franchise named the “Chiefs” where mayhem is sandwiched between adverts for light beer and panty liners.

  25. Mike Zitterich 2023-11-20 09:31

    It is prophecy that the UNITED STATES which is New Zion, and RUSSIA will watch over their flock protecting the 12 Tribes of Israel.

    Let’s consider what is really occuring today, Abraham is the Patriarch, the Father of Isaac, who is the Father of Esau and Jacob. Jacob begot his fathers birthright, and became ISRAEL. Jacob’s 12 sons became the 12 Tribes of Israel to which Juda, his 4th son had two sons, Zarah and Pharez.

    Israel is not about land, nor is it about a country, they were a Semite, Migrating Tribal Family to whom planted their seed in the Land of Canaan. They were one family of many people, who resided in the land itself.

    The Assyrians and Babylonians had conquered, and vanquished 10 of the 12 Tribes from the area, while the Tribe of Simeon because they sinned, thanks to their sexual fantasies, lost favor with God, and died off, going from 59,000 people, down to less than 1,000. They simplyt disapeared, while the remaining ones assimilated into Judah.

    The Tribe of Dan ended up settling the Northern Coastline of Europe, Ireland, Denmark, Sweden, Germany, Poland, Baltic States, later the United States…

    The Tribe of Reuban lost favor with God, were conquered by Assyria and ended up being held captive in modern day Afganistan, while the Tribe of Issaacher Tribe were expelled, and today reside in modern day Finland and Mexico…

    But, lets remember, Jacob’s 11th Son, who became his fathers favorite, and most holy, was sold into slavery, and rose to power in Egypt around 1700 BCE, and 200 years later, out of the Levite Tribe (priestly family), Moses and Aaron came to bring them home to their homeland. Where they would rebuild Israel as the Northern Kingdom and Southern Kingdom, building the Kingdoms of David and Solomon – Judah.

    Judah, by means of his two sons, established themselves as the House of Zarah (became the Followers of Jesus), and the House of Pharez (Jesus was born of), of which, the Tribe of Ephraim (Joseph’s Tribe) will watch over, and govern over the two Houses, protecting them.

    These are the people who would later on build the Two Jewish Temples, the first around 1200 BCE, while the Babylonians took them into excile, later on, the Persians allowed them to come home, where they rebuilt their Second Temple beginning in 586 BCE, while under King Herod, they expanded the temple mount to include both the Temple and the Roman Fort.

    Let’s remember, it would be the Romans who would go on to conquer, and destroy the City of David, demolish the Second Temple, then later build their House of Jupiter on the spot of the Temple, while later on, the Muslims came 500 years later, and buitt their Dome of the Rock on the spot of the former Roman Fort, while they built a Mosque where the Temple of Jupiter once sat.

    Remember, the Jewish Temple sat on the lower hill, the Threshing Floor, while the Roman Fort stood on the upper hill the spot of the Dome today.

    So, now, ‘we’ know the 10 Lost Tribes of Israel are now settled along the northern shores of Europe, Finland, Mexico, Afganistan, Ethiopia, while the Tribe of Naphtali became Sea Wonderers residing in lower Asia between the Black and Caspian Seas, but where are the “JEWS”…

    Well, the HOUSE OF ZARAH became the Christians, residing along the southern coastline of Europ helping to establish the countries of Spain, Italy, Greece, and Turkey; while the HOUSE OF PHAREZ (of David and Solomon and Jesus) migrated and assimilated into Monarchies of Europe. In order to discover where they are today, look for the People who became symbolized by the Red Hands, and the Yellow Lion.

    If you read 1 Chronicles – you will discover that God found favor with the TRIBE OF EPHRAIM for their struggles, and most loyalty to God, and promised them, that he would plant their seed in a far away country, to which they will ever be attacked on their own land, never be persecuted for their religioun, and only one Nation today fits this difinition – UNITED STATES, meaning it is today New Zion.

    it all makes sense now, the Pilgrims in 1620 were of the Tribe of Dan, and while the VIKINGS who first came to Ameica to lay out and explore way back around 900 ADE, later followed by Portugal sending Columbis in 1492, and while Spain founded the southern coastline and the Caribean, while France would later settle in the Central part of North America, it would be the Pilgrims to whom came in 1620 and took an oath to each other to form their own nation, grounded in Christianity and Morality, and upon coming to America – adopted our very first public document, the Mayflower Compact, to never persecute each other, to bind themselves to God, and to always live a live grounded in Morality.

    Puritans played the leading roles in establishing the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1629, the Saybrook Colony in 1635, the Connecticut Colony in 1636, and the New Haven Colony in 1638. The Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations was established by settlers expelled from Massachusetts because of their unorthodox religious opinions. Puritans were also active in New Hampshire before it became a crown colony in 1691. Puritanism ended early in the 18th century and before 1740 was replaced by the much milder Congregational church — they laid down the Original Foundation to which The United States of America would be established.

    Then, after the Peace Treaty of 1763, this Group of People began to organize themselves as 13 Colonies residing in the North Eastern Territory.

    New Zion was being put back together again – First, they led by the Ulster Scotts, Declared their Sovereignty, declaring the fact they take their allegiance from GOD, and not some king or queen, and Second, they Adopted the Articles of Confederation, forming their own States, their own Governments, while by 1783, they agreed to the Peace Treaty of 1783, to which later the 1785 Ordinance allowed them to plan, and zone their Estates, Hometeads, and Territories into the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Today, NEW ZION is the United States of America.

    NO GLOBAL WARS have ever been fought on U.S soil, and the same is true with RUSSIA, both REPUBLICS are today Watching over the 12 Tribes of Israel, to whom have become the TRIBE OF EPHRAIM – watching over their flocks.

    The current wars today in Israel, is not about saving Israel, no. It is about conquering, and destroying the ZIONIST POLITICAL MOVEMENT led by the evil European Banking Cartels, thus freeing the People living under the ZIONIST POLITICAL MACHINE, the jews and muslimes today.

    The United States led by Donald Trump, and Russia led by Vlad Putin are fighting an war against EVIL, to which they are Protecting the 12 Israelite Tribes. Lets remember, both USA and RUSSIA had been close allies prior to 1871, before the ZIONISTS conquered their Republics.

    God is watching over both USA and RUSSIA today, and nothing bad will happen to neither….

  26. larry kurtz 2023-11-20 09:48

    Mike Zitterich was still in diapers when the Rapture came for Harold Camping but since then Chad and Lori Daybell among others have predicted the Second Coming of a dead Jew crucified by Romans. Recall President Thomas Jefferson put Jesus on a par with Leonardo da Vinci and Sir Isaac Newton. Newton predicted 2060 will be the happy date.

  27. bearcreekbat 2023-11-20 10:31

    larry, Harold Camping was my all time favorite radio evangelist! He always got a laugh or smile out me with his firm refusal to allow callers more than one question or comment. Great memory, thanks.

  28. larry kurtz 2023-11-20 10:36

    Morning bat! For sure, the Pharisees in the temple got nuthin’ on the Alex Joneses and Steve Bannons of America.

  29. Anne 2023-11-20 10:36

    Re: Zitterich harrangue:

  30. larry kurtz 2023-11-20 10:49

    Speaking of puppeteers y’all should check out Matthew Monfore’s Faceberg page. He makes Zitterich seem sane.

  31. larry kurtz 2023-11-20 10:50

    ‘Pulpeteers’ but that other word works.

  32. Bob Newland 2023-11-20 11:14

    Well, Steve, can’t say I’ve missed your unreasoned stubbornness. Still can’t see any evidence Haysooce “loves” me. If Haysooce wants the torture in Gaza to stop, he can just kill everybody on all sides. That’s the way Dad did it. Or he could turn all the weapons into nerf shooters. But this nonsense about “he loves you” just won’t fly.

  33. All Mammal 2023-11-20 12:35

    Like Aron Ra says in this great commentary on Mad House Speaker, Mike Johnson, at 19:39, “Mikey [Z] is so full of shtuff, he’s like a colostomy bag that needs changing.”

    The Wampum Belt of the Confederacy of Native tribes may not have been the first binding document in America, based on agreement and morality, but it sure came way before the Mayflower Compact or Magna Carta or whatever tf ol brown-eyed MZ shat out. I wish guys like him would consider the video above. It hurts to find out you are wrong, but it builds character to admit the truth.

    Mr. Z- Nobody cares about your interpretive biblical cosplay. Oh, and please stop slurping up everything Nick Fuentes spews out to you. It makes me gag when you regurgitate it. Try to discover fashion and music, sans the chains of your made up moral prison. It may help cure the incel condition you share with your America First idol, Nick Fuentes. Do something Christly, like denounce haters.

  34. Richard Schriever 2023-11-20 12:58

    Guy – IMO the “soul” does not live in oneself, bit in the effect one’s life has on those with whom one shares time as human on Earth. Those actions also “reverberate” into the future of other peoples’ lives, the very atomic structure of things both animate and inanimate one “touches” as one lives. This explains the “eternal life” nature of a “soul”. To many people, the idea of always living outside of one’s own skin is a very difficult concept to grasp. The ego is a jealous actor.

  35. Spike 2023-11-20 13:46

    My poppa said god/the great spirit/Allah etc etc was the blood that flowed through all of human and animal kind. Common ground. And we make our own choices. That is from a man whom went through 41/2 years in WWII across Europe and Japan. The rest is bs….

    Although I do like the Kapernick/Johnson comparison….. LOL

  36. e platypus onion 2023-11-20 14:54

    How fortunate for me, Kurtz, that I don’t have access to Faceberg or blurb or whatever it is called anymore.

  37. All Mammal 2023-11-20 15:07

    After spending time with those I view as wise, such as all of you on DFP, the Tao Te Ching seems more relevant. “The more complicated you make things, the stranger things are going to happen”.

    I like peoples’ explanations of what they think. I try not to laugh at some like my family still does at me for back when I thought God’s name was Howard. I was convinced we prayed: Our Father, Who art in heaven. Howard be thy name….

  38. larry kurtz 2023-11-20 16:36

    Trump’s attorney Jesus Suarez asks McConney about the company’s accountant Donald Bender, whom the defense has sought to blame for any discrepancies in the company’s financial statements. Trump’s attorney Jesus Suarez says the email shows that Bender knew about the discrepancy between rent-stabilized units, in what he calls an “inconvenient” fact for the state.

  39. grudznick 2023-11-20 17:06

    Mr. Hickey, grudznick’s close personal friend Lar does sport leather Jesus sandals, so there’s that.

  40. jakc 2023-11-20 19:58

    Mike Z, you know through DNA testing, such as testing for Y haplotypes, we can do a surprisingly good job of tracing actual population movement compared to fanfic versions of the tribes of Israel.

    All Mammal, wampum belts for the Iroquois and others weren’t binding documents in our modern sense. The Iroquois after all aliterate (not illerate – unable to write in a literate society, but rather without writing). They certainly had treaties prior to contact with Europeans/Americans, but the purpose was not to produce written documents that would be open ended in duration but rather to “polish the chain of friendship” as they would put it. Treaty councils were part of an ongoing process to work out problems and show friendship (thus for example the need to exchange gifts showing this friendship, such as wampum belts). The wampum belts are less an imdication of specific agreements, like a written treaty, and more an indication of an agreement to reach agreements.

  41. Mark B 2023-11-21 05:51

    Mike Z. If you think America was founded for any other reason than profiteering and pride, you are as dumb as I already know you are.

    Whatever helps you get over that is up to each of us to come to grips with. Prophetic Jesus is your kool-aid to rationalize the capitalistic mayhem of colonization.

    All those ‘heathens and savages’ that had to be cleared from the promised land is just ends justifying means.

    Cant have it both ways, either you are a disciple of the vengeful destructive tempermental god of the old covenant or you believe Jesus ‘cleared things up’ about how we treat people with love. I really dont care which lane you stay in, but you cant have it both ways.

    You cant claim to be redeemed by christ and refuse to let go of the law and old covenant he redeemed you from. You just cant or your path is no different than ISIS or the Taliban, twisted self serving versions of Islam.

  42. Mark B 2023-11-21 07:46

    Also Mr Z, I guarantee you the first true Christian church of Acts was not ‘digging in’ to 1 Chronicles, they were welcoming anyone and forming a socialistic society with everyone selling their posessions and sharing. The only SMITING in the Christian church was of a couple that ‘Cheated on their Taxes’, so stew on that a bit, then show me the part where Jesus or Paul tell us we need to keep practicing Judaism.. zactly.. not there. Just Idiots like you with too many people to manipulate and an old religion well suited for the job that is too tempting to not warp. Deciding ‘Salvation’ means you can go back and try to do the religion Jesus just wrapped up.

  43. Mike Zitterich 2023-11-21 10:48

    I believe what many people have forgot about when discussing the 12 Tribes of Israel, was the reason why they were vanquished from the land of Canaan in the first place. The Israelites were a loose Confederation of Tribes to whom follow their Patriarch Abraham, to whom God Chose due to his Faith and Morals. The true intent of the Old Testament was to present the narrative to what happens to you when you lose your faith, become a moral-less people, allowing for sin to grab root within your communities, which explains reasons why God allowed your tribes to become conquered. In the Old testament, God is not necessary a vengeful God, he is a Natural Being, to which provides natural ways to resolve the imperfection of his ‘Creation”. Every time, humans repented, and discovered their their faith and morals, God shown his willingness to forgive.

    In the beginning, there was the “Word”, and the word was with “God”, he had created the earth, the heavens, the water, night and day, and he created man in his own image, but did not give to man the perfection of what God is, he provided to man all the imperfections of nature. Then, God sent to man all of his prophets, his messengers to which provided to man all the niceties that God would provide to them if they remain loyal to God. God would also through his prophets present to man all of the ways he can punish man as well. Then God sent his only son, Jesus – to bring to man the “Word”, and from the point Jesus was born, he was providing to man the “Word of God” allowing man to see their wickedness, and to present a clear path forward to follow him into the future, leading them to righteousness, morality, and a positive new beginning.

    While some of the Jews did not in Jesus, let’s remember, Jesus was born of the House of Pharez, became the Lion representing the Shepard, the Carpenter, the dutiful Priests that remained loyal to him, in order to lead his flock back to God himself. Jesus would present the narative, that God is both a vengeful God, but he is also a God to whom Forgives, and so long as you learn from your mistakes, you will always be welcome int he House of God. And to that, the House of Zarah became the followers of Jesus, becoming the early Christians to were sent out across the earth, to do God’s work.

    After the Jews asked Pontius Pilot to crucify Jesus, the House of Zarah left the City of David going north into the caucus mountain ranges; and the House of Zarah left the City of David and moved on to settle into Europe, rejoining many of the other Tribes of Israel spreading God’s word.

    The Jews left behind, mainly the Pharisees, and people who follow them, the Roman’s came and conquered them, destroying the City of David, removing the Jewish Temple from the face of the earth, and replacing it with the Temple of Jupiter, while allowing the Muslims, the Followers of Ishmael to plant their seed in the area, building their Dome of the Rock on top of the former Roman Fort, of which today over looks the Muslim Mosque, which is built today on top of the former Jewish Temple. This was done, in order to show the Jews, that if you do not repent, God will remove you from your promised land, never to be given back to you, just as he did to Adam and Eve, locking the door, and throwing away the key.

    However, God provided the 12 Tribes a message, he spoke directly to the Tribe of Ephraim, to whom always remained the most loyal to God, for he provided a clue, that he would plant their seed in a far away land, to which they will never again become persecuted, attacked, and in harms way. For when the time is right, he will plant that seed, and the 12 Tribes of Israel will again be reunited in peaceful, harmony, under God’s Word.

    Look man, you do not have to believe me, nor trust that my version is right, but you do have to understand the messages being told in the bible.

    I personally believe, looking at all the facts, the evidence, the word of God, that the Tribe of Dan was used by God to spread out across the earth, planting their ‘seeds’ all throughout Europe – Spain, Itally, Greece, Turkey, Ireland, Sweden, Norway, to Germany and Poland. The Issaacher Tribe was used to plant their seed not only in Finland, but as well as in Mexico, and then he utilizes the Tribes of Gad to plant their seed in Ethiopia, while the Tribe of Reuban was planted in modern day Afganistan, while lastly, the Tribe of Simeon, was allowed to be depopulated due to their sinful ways, and assimulated into the Judea, to which they are the only tribe to be completely wiped out by God.

    As these Tribes comingled in Europe with other Cultures, they also had to suffer themselves as they often became victims to the sins of Europe, allowing for the Monarchies and their idol gods to interfere in their lives, to which they had to find their faith,and morals once again. This is what you see during the period of the Protestant Reformation that took place between 1300 to 1500 to which many of them were being persecuted during the Holy Roman Emporers, while this led to people like Martin Luther and John Knox leading their congregations (flocks) back to God.

    Example of this is now the movement of the Pilgrims, who migrated to Scotland, and later Ireland as they became separated from the English Church. They made an oath to each other, to which they will always bind themselves to Christianity, to Morality, remaining loyal to their God. by 1620, they had left on the Mayflower, to come to a far-away land called America, the place of which the Tribe of Dan by means of the Vikings had planted their seed – and once they arrived, the first thing they did prior to getting off the ship, was adopt America’s first Document – which today is known as the Mayflower Compact.

    What was the Mayflower Compact – it was pact they each agreed to, to remain loyal to each other, to remain bound to the Christian Faith, and to always be a moral and rigtheous people. They would commit re-establishing themselves in this new land, by not forcing people to become Christian, but at the very minimum, one would have to be bound to Morality in all things, all activities within this new land. For if they remain true to their convictions, as prophecized, God will provide to them a rich, and prosperous nation.

    Beginning in 1620, and moving forward, the Puritans played the leading roles in establishing the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1629, the Saybrook Colony in 1635, the Connecticut Colony in 1636, and the New Haven Colony in 1638. The Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations was established by settlers expelled from Massachusetts because of their unorthodox religious opinions. Puritans were also active in New Hampshire before it became a crown colony in 1691. Puritanism ended early in the 18th century and before 1740 was replaced by the much milder Congregational church — they laid down the Original Foundation to which The United States of America would be established.

    And while between 1600 to 1800, Great Britain, Spain, and France would fight for territtorial control of the North American Continent, it was this sect of people in the North Eastern Territory which was founded, and established by the Pilgrims of which their seed will have been planted. By 1763, after the First Peace Treaty of Paris, many things began to take place, that led the Americans organize as One Nation, remaining true to their oath, their bond, and their Creed, by first adopting their Declaration of Independent, then forming their 14 Articles of Confederation, while Adopting the Second Peace Treaty of Paris, to Adopting their 1785 Ordinance, thus Planning, and Zoning, Organizing themselves to become 13 States, and within another five years, they would have established their own centralized government, but limiting it, by holding power over it.

    They had Created, NEW ZION – and from that day forward, the United States of America has become the Shining Beacon of the Earth. Their borders open to, and allowing the People of the Globe to come here, so long as they to, took that Oath, that Bond, and Dedicated themselves to the Christianity, and to Morality. Every “new state” has to adopt their compact, to adopt the very oath and bond taken by the North Eastern Territory.

    Let’s remember, it was the United States of America who began to distance themselves from the Slave Trade, as evidence of the words of the Northwest Territory Ordinance – that no new State established under these Codes, and Ordinances, would promise to NOT partake in the Institution of Slavery, while allowing the States to be free, but as they begin to agree to take that oath, they to would have to give up their sinful ways.

    This is why we have to have “Strong Borders”, a strong sense of Border Protection, Walls, Security, Guardsmen – for ‘we’ must not let anyone into this country that will not, and will never allow for the American People to become victimized by evil ways, sin, and conquered.

    Today, the America First Patriot Movement is the same movement as we saw in Europe all those years ago between 1300-1500. Establishing a renowned faith in God, casting out all our sinful ways, and reforming America back to its original plan, goals, and concepts.

    Jerusalem is spelled as such — Jer-USA-Lem — meaning, to Make America Great Again, “WE” must Stand With God, Protect his Word, remaining loyal to our faith, and morals, and for that, we will forever be rewarded as becoming a Prosperous Nation of Zion.

  44. e platypus onion 2023-11-21 11:19

    Point out the word god in the constitution. You can’t because that word is not in there. Neither is the word guns or assault weapons. It takes Zit 2 million characters to push his false narratives and no one has ever proven any god ever existed in real time.

  45. jakc 2023-11-21 11:31

    1) When Jesus declared himself to be the King of the Jews, he was in rebellion against Rome as only the Roman emperor could name a King of the Jews. At that point, Pontius was going to have him crucified, regardless of what the Jews wanted. The Jews could have begged to save Jesus and it would have done no good.
    2) The Plymouth colony was also expected to be a commercial enterprise. Not everyone on the Mayflower was a pilgrim and not everyone on board signed the Mayflower Compact, certainly not the women. Perhaps some people don’t count them.
    3) I’m not sure where even to begin about the slave trade, but American law allowed slavery and the internal slave trade until the end of the civil war, and many Americans supported the African slave trade (even after it was made illegal). New England made money off the triangular trade, many of the 19th century illegal slave traders were NE built ships with NE crews.

  46. Anne 2023-11-21 11:33

    This all raises the enduring relevance of Shakespeare:

    Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
    That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
    And then is heard no more: it is a tale
    Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
    Signifying nothing.

  47. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-21 12:13

    Today, it is my opinion that Russia represents the House of Pharez, and America represents the House of Zarah. To which are overseeing, and protecting over the 12 Tribes of Israel.
    Ask yourself, why did God allow for the City of David and the Temple to be overtaken by Another Group of People? Cause the Pharisees and their Followers placed themselves above the Word of God, exemplifying. to the world, they placed themselves Above the Lion, aka the House of God, and there can be no House Above God.
    Jesus represented the Lion, the House of God, and the Two Houses beneath God’s House are Pharez and Zarah.

    God gave to Abraham his Promise, Abraham then passed that birthright to his son Isaac, to whom had two sons – Esau and Jacob. Because Esau turned to a life of hatred and vengeance, that birthright was given to Jacob, who became Israel, to whom through his 12 sons, would become the twelve tribes.

    Among those twelve tribes, one rose to the highest authority, the House of Ephraim (Joseph’s House), to whom would remain the most loyal to God. To which today, the House of Ephrain would become Israel as God planted his seed in a new promised land, to which the House of Zarah and the House of Pharez would unite under it, thus uniting the Twelve Tribes of Israel once again.

    In this particular order, you have the HOUSE OF GOD to which stands above all houses, on earth, you now have the House of Ephraim (Israel), to which beneath it, you have the House of Zarah (followers of Jesus), and the House of Pharez (The Lion aka Jesus). All man-made Governments are beneath them.

    Proud to be an American, I am Proud of Our Ancestry, and I am Proud to Stand in Defense of God, in Order to Take Back America.

  48. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-21 12:38

    I am very much a proud guy, that I have stood behind my christian faith, and good morals in everything I do in my life. From working for others, to buying and selling used cars, to helping my father around the repair shop, to everything we discuss in a political sense.

    I am proud of the fact, that we spend everyday expressing ourselves to God, and that our own State Constitution, by means of our Preamble is an Oath to the People Under God, and to whom “WE’ are bound to Almighty God, allowing us to say a Public Prayer before every public meeting, and using our beliefs to guide us both politically, and spiritually. For when God is present, ALL GOOD things happen to us.

    I am proud of my ancestry, my heritage, and to the fact that I am one person from a family who migrated to the USA from the former Country of Pommeria two the countries of Germany, Denmark, Poland, Hungary, Baltic States, Sweden were all established. The Land of the Dans.

    Way back around the year 900 A.D.E – the Tribe of Dan, or the DAN’S, were already sending their Vikings, Explorers to Discover America. Planting their seeds in America, to which, within 500 years, the Pilgrims would have came and founded the first stones, leading to U.S.A.

    New Zion is here to stay, and there can be stopping it, for where the Hand of God Lifting Us Up – ALL GOOD THINGS will happen.

    People all around us will always try to tear us down, separate us from our beliefs, but where you stay strong, and willing to die for that God, only then will you have conquered all bad actors upon the earth.

    To all the Trans-Sexuals, Gays, Lesbians, to All those Support Abortion, or a Marxist Government, I will Continue to Pray for You. Cause I know that is what God will want us to do. Love Thy Enemies, as if they are Your Family, for they do not know what they do.

  49. larry kurtz 2023-11-21 12:48

    The god construct is not only unnecessary it’s intellectually nonsensical.

  50. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-21 14:30

    AMERICA was put together in the same format as MOSES installed the Israelite Governing Process, from the bottom, to the top, all to be UNDER THE HOUSE OF GOD..

    The S.D Legislature much like your City COuncils at the local level, are NOT above the people, it is the other way around, in a true REPUBLIC, which means the PUBLIC THING (The Law) the PEOPLE are above their Government, and the People stand “Under God”.

    When the Arch-Angel Lucifer fell from Heaven, it was God’s way of punishing him, cause he placed himself ABOVE the House of God, and that upsets the entire apple card.

    Under the “true” Israelite Governing Process” which was put together by Moses as a True Republic – it went like this:

    HOUSE OF GOD (God Spoke through him by means of the Tabernacle)

    Moses was the Chosen Leader (Executive);

    Aaron became God’s Chosen Public Speaker of the Word of God…

    The PEOPLE therefore govern over their Tribal Territories by means of Elected and Appointed Persons called Boards, Committees, and Commissions,

    Of which allow the PEOPLE to work through those committees/commissions the process of apointing, and electing the following:


    Vice Chair (Vice President, Lt. Governor, etc)

    Attorney General

    Secretary of State



    Land Commissioner (Planning, Zoning, Activities)

    Public Education Commissioner,

    ***Those Appointed or Elected Persons “act” as the Government Officials Administering and Managing the Government.

    Furthermore, the PEOPLE then elect their Tribal Councils, Territorial Legislatures, and a National Legislature.

    **Each Level Beneath the one who Created them…

    LUCIFERIANS think the opposite, they think of themselves as ABOVE THE LION aka House of God. This would be the Zionist Political Movement, the Global Association of Financiers, World Leaders, etc.

    Does this make sense?

  51. e platypus onion 2023-11-21 14:47

    This makes sense…;.;;..;. magat phony kristians at Mar a lago threaten dog’s wrath if drumpf loses the potus again.

    Only total morons really believe their alleged saviour gives a hoot and a holler about politics when he/she/it has more pressing moral and ethical problem sinners like the entire magat party to smite with their own jawbones.

  52. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-21 14:49

    Donald Trump is NOT our savior, he is the TRUMPET, calling together the Tribes, of whom are returning to rebuild ZION.

  53. jakc 2023-11-21 15:25

    Mike Z

    “you do not have to believe me … but you do have to understand the messages being told in the Bible.”

    This is really the whole problem. You don’t seem to be able understand that you might be wrong about the Bible

    I beseech thee, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible that you may be mistaken as Cromwell says. After all, if the Bible is the word of God, I can read it without your intervention and let it speak to me. I don’t need you to explain the word of God, and just as important, your explanations are not the word of God

  54. Mark B 2023-11-21 16:56

    Couldnt have said it better, Mike!

    “This is really the whole problem. You don’t seem to be able understand that you might be wrong about the Bible”

  55. Arlo Blundt 2023-11-21 18:40

    Mr. Zitterich, what you’re saying is nonsense….6,000 year old mythology from an iron age hill tribe whose known world lay within a 200 mile circle. In the slightly more reliable new testament, Christ tells Pilate, “My Kingdom is not of this World.”

  56. grudznick 2023-11-21 18:56

    Mr. Zitterich, have you ever considered becoming a writer the ilk of L. Ron Hubbard? You certainly are prolific enough at it, and you remind me a bit of the Jonnie Goodboy Tyler character, who was also depressed and perhaps tilted on the spectrum by the crashing of his father.

    You spin a good yard, and could make hundreds of dollars.

  57. Todd Epp 2023-11-21 19:49

    The bowels of Christ, Zit? That’s quite a vision.

  58. Bob Newland 2023-11-21 19:59

    It’s only seconds away. Mikey Lee will break out the ball bearings, the wind machine will make his hair stand out, the below-the-waist lighting will show the whites of his eyes and the bared fangs. He will snarl, “You can’t handle the truth about the strawberries!”

  59. Mark B 2023-11-22 07:18

    America has always been about a complicated relationship between Faith and Treasure, Mike.

    Could it be that once again Faith is being ‘modified’ to justify the holding of Treasure? America is pretty darn good at it..

    Funny how Christianity adopts and rises to thwart any notion of sharing our treasure, whether with foriegners or former slaves we have exploited in the past, dont you think?

  60. Mark B 2023-11-22 07:29

    Maybe America’s fate is not tied to Israel, but Ananias and Sapphira, who’s refusal to be honest before God about their Treasure when claiming to be generous before men led to the only Smiting in the New Testament?

    Kind of feels that way to me when I see the way David Fuentes and their ilk invoke God the way they have convinced poor Mike to do.

  61. jerry 2023-11-22 08:56

    If you want to see a trump America if he is elected again, look at Israel and its corrupted incompetent leader, Bibi. 16 years of a failed regime that is now so dependent on the United States, it cannot stand on it’s own. We cannot allow ourselves to go down the same path as Bibi’s crew. BTW, Old Joe Biden just got a hostage agreement and a cease fire.

  62. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-22 09:29

    The Pilgrims came here with one goal in mind, to Establish for themselves, and plant their seed in America, to Establish New Zion. Proof, that ISRAEL is more than about land, but is about being “Free” to live Under the House of God. America will always be saved due to it’s continued belief in the Christian God, and the many States still beholden to God’s word. This is what has made America one of two most powerful Countries in the World – United States and Russia. Thanks to these two countries, establishing their Christian Republics, the Luciferians struggle to gain control of these two countries. That is a great thing.

    I apologize that some of you are seemingly upset that you cannot get your form of government pushed through, but the PURITANS, the ULSTER SCOTS, the DAN TRIBE, all did a great job of planting their seed on this continent, that even the Native Tribes have accepted, and formed their own “Sovereign Republics” equal to the 50 States themselves, Look at how all these American governments are formed…

    HOUSE OF GOD then the People to whom Govern their Territories through Committees, Boards, Commissions to whom choose, appoint, and elect their At-Large Representatives – Executive, Vice-Executive, Attorney, Secretary, Treasurer, Auditor, Land Commissioner (planning, zoning, activities), School Commissioner, to whom are all tasked of administering and managing the “Government” itself, while the people inside those Territories further “Elect” their Legislative Councils, Local Councils, and National Delegate or U.S Representative…

    In a REPUBLIC which means the PUBLIC THING aka “The Law” – the Government itself is restricted to Administering Public Buildings, Roads, Utilities, Water, Sewer, Parks, and only the “Services” as the People so choose to establish. IT has no authority outside that box.

    In a REPUBLIC, ‘we’ do not adopt laws based on popular opinion of the voters or even the legislators, for the OVER ALL “POPULATION” has the ability to NOT CONSENT, and we do this by means of the 66 Counties to whom act as Separate Bodies of the Electorate. The popular vote can overruled by a majority of Counties, Precincts, and Legislative Districts, by going through the process of challenging said laws.

    If you live in a community of 1,000 Citizens, unlike a Democracy, where 999 citizens accuse a person of being a PEDO, the SHERIFF walks into the room and tells the 999 citizens, you cannot simply vote by mob rule and lock this guy up, that 1 citizen has the right to a TRIAL OF HIS PEERS, to face his accusers – the 999 Citizens, placing them also on the ‘stand’. And both sides get the right to tell their side of the story, in front of a JURY, and it has to be annoymous ALL JURORS, and if the accused can convince 1 juror he is innocent, he keeps his freedom. Supporters of Democracies hate this tactic, cause they want the MAJORITY to always rule over the minority.

    In a REPUBLIC, ‘WE” all understand that “WE THE PEOPLE” are all One Under the House of God, and not one person is unequal to the other, and that God always has the final say in your fate.

  63. larry kurtz 2023-11-22 10:45

    How is the price of putting people to death either conservative or sustainable? The litigation costs of trying capital crimes persuaded Nebraska to rethink state-sponsored killing.

    A state-ordered lethal injection isn’t criminal justice; it’s suicide by cop and it’s the view of this progressive that anyone convicted of any felony requiring incarceration should be able to ask for a death with dignity rather than living a life of Hell in the South Dakota State Penitentiary.

  64. larry kurtz 2023-11-22 10:57

    The reading of the Declaration of Independence by members of the reporting staff at NPR on the 4th of July gets me every time. Past on-air personalities, some now correspondents at the pearly gates, also read for this decades-old feature. The tears stream down my face right up to the line that begins:
    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare…
    That’s when it hits me right between the eyes.

    When those words were being written, thousands of cultures inhabited a continent that seemed to keep growing huge ripe plums just waiting for Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton and the rest to pick and pick and pick and pick. Already, the Chesapeake Bay estuary had been mostly denuded of native vegetation, not to mention of its former human inhabitants.

    Enslaved people tilled the fields and built the infrastructure, the ancestors of the Lakota and other Siouan groups that had been forced westward out of North Carolina generations earlier, traded with the Spanish and French while forging their own alliances (and marriages) with other indigenous peoples.

    Much of the road map to restoring treaty lands to the tribal nations trapped in South Dakota and other red states has already been drawn.

    Every federal department and agency already recognize Native America as the 51st State. While the Palestinian homeland looks like holes in the slice of Swiss cheese analogous to the illegal Israeli state, progress toward resolutions of Native trust disputes would have far more political traction after tribes secede from the States in which they reside and then be ratified to form one State, the 51st, sans contiguous borders with two Senators and two House members as there are an estimated 2.5 million indigenous living on reservations.

    It’s time for the State of South Dakota to abandon Bear Butte State Park that it claimed through colonization and remand it to the tribes for governance so they can restore its name to Mato Paha and for the US Park Service to add the name Mahto Tipila to Devils Tower National Monument.

    The South Dakota Democratic Party should advocate for paying the tribes and settling the Black Hills Claim, dissolving the Black Hills National Forest, moving management of the land from the US Department of Agriculture into the Department of Interior; and, in cooperation with Bureau of Indian Affairs Division of Forestry and Wildfire Management rewild it and rename it Okawita Paha National Monument eventually becoming part of the Greater Missouri Basin National Wildlife Refuge. Mato Paha (Bear Butte), the associated national grasslands and the Sioux Ranger District of the Custer/Gallatin National Forest should be included in the move.

    The United States Constitution is the finest instrument ever created by the human hand. The Preamble is the body, the Bill of Rights is the neck, the Amendments are the strings. It is a fluid universal execution of human and civil rights.

    It’s time for all Americans to enjoy the protection of law by being part of one nation: erase the artificial borders and grant Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness to all the people of North America…Mexico, Central America, Canada, even the Caribbean if they’ll have us.

    I’m not a New World Order guy, don’t support the North American Union (god bless you. please, mr. roddenberry) and I believe the US Constitution is a big enough canvas in order to paint a more perfect masterpiece, a big enough score for all to sing. No violence. No more drug wars.

    Read Alaska’s constitution some time. The last states ratified are the most egalitarian. Let’s debate it then draft a dream referendum to be delivered by and for the people of Mexico to dissolve their constitution and petition for Statehood as our 52nd State. Quebec could be the 53rd and Cuba, the 54th.

    The United States is the Hamiltonian Empire Thomas Jefferson warned us about. Resistance is futile.

    Sí, se puede.

  65. larry kurtz 2023-11-22 11:29

    The first European celebration of Thanksgiving in the New World took place in the Spanish-conquered Southwest but it wasn’t until a slave-owning US president made the date official.

  66. larry kurtz 2023-11-22 11:46

    Mike Zitterich prays to a supernatural extraterrestrial who would kill most of the people on the planet so the rest can worship under a one-world king.

  67. jerry 2023-11-22 12:38

    So, is it a Catholic Nation or a Protestant one? Which is it?

  68. jerry 2023-11-22 12:43


  69. Arlo Blundt 2023-11-22 13:24

    Jerry–it is neither. If anything, it is a Masonic Nation….look on your dollar bill.

  70. jerry 2023-11-22 13:41

    Aha!! Not a Christian Nation. Thanks man, I suspected it…but now I know, it’s a Washingtonian Nation…

  71. e platypus onion 2023-11-22 14:08

    Zit’s blatherings is only moar proof there is no god, or, at least, he/she/it pays no attention to the sinners of this land. From what I remember of forced Sunday school, never once did anybody with religious authority ever mention the lost tribes of Israel and you can tell from trying to decipher Zit’s phony interpretation of all things jeebus, he was not given the liove brain cells to interpret present mumbo jumbo from ancient mumbo jumbo.

  72. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-22 17:16

    NONE of you can prove me wrong, all I see ins blathering insults and name calling. You would think if you disagree with my narrative, you would present a contra-narative. that is how it works in America. I tell my side, you tell your side, we try to compromise in the middle.

    No Worries, DONALD TRUMP will serve as President 2025-2029 and Make America Great Again. Now there is no way for none of you to keep him off the ballot, even if you tried again prior the general election, the Supreme Court is in OUR HANDS, and we will win this thing.

    The AMERICA FIRST MOVEMENT is much stronger than the Media gives it credit for, and the People Involved are More Unified than Ever.

  73. M 2023-11-22 17:41

    I think you need help MLZ. You are off the charts on my “social behavioral/attitude” evaluation for an individual plan. Perhaps you should see a doctor, get your hormones checked, take some happy pills, and get laid by anyone. Your sexual frustration adds to your desire to be like your man Trump. Perhaps you have suppressed desires for strong men so your blathering on this site gives you pleasure. Let it go!

  74. V 2023-11-22 17:55

    Although I’m more of a Taoist myself, I know Jesus never declared himself king. He was a political pawn and sentenced to death for wanting more social and religious rights for men AND women. He was never on a political or economic mission.

  75. larry kurtz 2023-11-22 18:01

    Zitterich is ‘round the bend and over one of the cliffs of the flat earth wearing a tin foil tricorn.

  76. grudznick 2023-11-22 20:25

    Mr. Zitterich said, and will squirrel dream tonight in a spiral:

    NONE of you can prove me wrong, all I see ins blathering insults and name calling.

    You are righter than right about the blathering, Mr. Z, because you cannot tighten up your bloggings. And of course, the out-of-state name-callers are rampant, so grudznick is in agreement with you.

    However, you banned me from being online, after typing about your daddy’s fire and burning, and then the big crashes he had when better drivers lapped him. Since you have banned me from being online, grudznick is unable to comment about your delusions regarding Mr. Trump nor use my calming thoughts to protect you and head off the oil stenched brain spinner that will blight your dreams again tonight.

  77. grudznick 2023-11-22 20:35

    It occurs to grudznick that the rest of the famous Zitterich family is probably unaware of this blogging place, as most the real world is unaware, or is watching this all with horror or perhaps even more terrifying if you live next to a Zitterich, sheer amusement.

    (What would Mike’s mom say?)

  78. jakc 2023-11-22 21:21

    Mike Z

    1) Sure I can prove you wrong. I’ve read the Bible. You’re wrong.

    2) The people on the Mayflower were a diverse group. Not all came for religious reasons. The people who financed the Mayflower did so for commercial reasons. They expected the colony to make money. Babylon I guess, not Zion, as you might put it.

    3) Todd Epps
    The Cromwell quote is from a letter to the General Assembly for the Church (Kirk) of Scotland.

  79. Arlo Blundt 2023-11-22 23:52

    Jerry–yes, the Constitution was written, edited and approved under George Washington’s close supervision. He wore his Revolutionary War General’s Uniform to chair the Convention to communicate that there was to be no doubt about who was in charge. The Committee involved other founders who were Masons…Franklin, Hamilton, Madison, and the ambivalent Jefferson, a less than adamant, and inconsistent Mason. There were about 20 Masons at the convention. Only one Catholic and, as I recall, two Lutherans. Most of the Protestants were New England Unitarian/Universalists, Congregationalists, and Presbyterians. Members of the Church of England probably outnumbered all other affiliations.

  80. jerry 2023-11-23 07:17

    According to Britannica “Freemasonry has always been religious in character, though it subscribes to no particular orthodoxy. To become a Freemason, the applicant has to be an adult male and must believe in the existence of a supreme being and in the immortality of the soul. The teachings of Freemasonry enjoin morality, charity, and obedience to the law of the land. It is not, however, a Christian institution, though it is often taken to be such. In fact, Freemasonry has received considerable opposition from organized religion, the Roman Catholic Church in particular. In practice, some lodges have been accused of religious prejudices, specifically against Jews and Catholics. They have also been accused of anticlericalism in Latin American countries. In Anglo-American countries the membership consists of mostly white Protestants; some lodges have been accused of prejudice against nonwhites.”

    So, if you ain’t white, it ain’t right. With the right ring, you got the bling.

  81. DaveFN 2023-11-23 21:16

    Bob Newland

    Those who think their most important thoughts and connections are accentuated by pot are those who resort to it, dissatisfied as they are with their thoughts and connections without pot.

    Get in touch with your dissatisfaction first and your pot life will become of secondary consideration.

  82. Bob Newland 2023-11-23 21:26

    Well, Dave, I fail to see what you said has anything to do with anything I’ve ever said.

  83. larry kurtz 2023-11-24 09:10

    Apparently, Dave/Miranda blame(s) cannabis for his/her/their gender dysphoria despite the herb being a sacrament for many people who call themselves christian.

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