Hey, Robin! How’s this for the Democratic message you’ve been looking for to reframe all of the Trump/Republican bushwah?
The Grand Unified Theory of politics is that there is a small group of wealthy, corporate elites who have taken political power by means of the massive wealth they have amassed, and their goal is to amass even more wealth. Through a corporate profit-making lens, there is no profit value in addressing racial and gender justice. There is no value in universal health care, quality education, higher wages or pristine air, water and land, because funding such goals leaves less money for the wealthy elites [Sonali Kolhatkar, “Resisting Trumpism Requires a Grand Unifying Theory,” Truthdig, 2017.12.07].
Apply that message to South Dakota:
- Corporations get to seize private land by eminent domain to build hazardous private pipelines.
- The Koch Brothers push a tax plan that ultimately takes more money from the lower four-fifths of South Dakotans to give more money to the richest 20%.
- The Koch Brothers throw in with Republicans in an effort to undermine public faith in the initiative and referendum process, because it is easier for big corporations to lobby and co-opt a handful of legislators in the cozy and isolated confines of the Capitol in winter than to fool 50%+1 of the people all of the time in general elections.
- South Dakota insurance companies get a tax break that drains money from public schools and sends more kids to private schools.
- For every two dollars we raise from new sales taxes on groceries and other essentials to raise teacher pay, we have to raise another dollar from the same regressive revenue source to placate the business lobby with property tax relief.
I welcome your further examples or refutatory counterexamples.
Robin- this one’s fer you. Both sides didn’t do it.
http://www.sheilakennedy.net/2017/12/how-bad-is-it/
The fault all lies with the wingnut wing of korporate amerika exclusively.
Rich and Koch elites are not as Roch as you all think they are.
https://www.snopes.com/tax-bill-deduction-losses-wildfires/
Thanks to stoopid wingnuts you can no longer deduct exemptions for personal losses from natural disasters. (blizzards, hailstorms, flood, etc)
Drumpf is a natural disaster. Naturally stoopid wingnuts and Putin put him in the WH, temporarily.
‘basically our government has just given up admitting that corporations are more powerful than the government’. 32:21 video by Professor Galloway, leading thought critic of e-commerce
It’s more about failed electorates and representative government than it is about evil corporations.
http://ritholtz.com/2017/12/galloway-break-amazon-apple-facebook-google/
Allow me to offer something simpler and more direct: “Clean Air, Clean H2O, Clean Gov’t.” Period.
When the corporate elites run everything for selfish reasons, they ruin everything. Before the Great depression there was a meeting between eight top leaders. The secretary of the treasury, the president of the biggest bank, the president of the largest railroad, etc. They were planning where the economy was going. Twenty five years later after the depression, four had committed suicide and the other four were broke. During the depression bank robbers were considered heroes. Greed does fail, but not right away. They have their fun in the sun for a while before their consequenses. We do not need to elect this type of thieves.
Now the elites are not Roch at all. I still submit that tax breaks should be equitable for all. Just as tax increases should be. Fair Tax! Flat percentage to all.
https://crooksandliars.com/2017/12/koch-brothers-senator-pushed-estate-tax
More wingnut attempts to lighten the burden on the koch bros and other billionaire wingnut donors.
Roypubs have a long track record of cancelling / denying aid to rural amerika.
One result – the farmer suicide rate is double that for veterans. Double.
(And you’re reading about it from a British newspaper.) (Blame the estate tax, right NOem?)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/06/why-are-americas-farmers-killing-themselves-in-record-numbers
Paul Ryan discovered most Americans don’t have an extra $500 for emergencies, so what does he do? What do Rounds, Noem and Thune do? Why would they sabatoge our health care, the ACA, if that is true?
“New Look for Governor Noem says: @RepKristiNoem: “The recovery has all been due to @POTUS and what he has focused on.” Leader McConnell
.@SenatorRounds “The #TaxReform bill…takes meaningful steps to reform our tax code in a manner that will allow businesses to flourish again & families to keep more of their hard-earned dollars”. I don’t believe it.
Thune: “…colleagues from both chambers [oh come on??!] and I work together to deliver a tax reform bill that provides relief for middle-income Americans, our shared [really???] goals remain the same ….”
https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/the-next-step-in-the-radical-trump-gop-agenda-gut-the-welfare-state
Thune, Noem and Rounds and Republicans are using Trump as a blunt instrument——to help them enact the legislative and administrative counter-revolution that they have long been plotting with their mega-donors and corporate-funded think tanks. And Trump, despite his efforts to portray himself as a defender of the working people, is eager to go along with this plutocratic agenda, which, of course, benefits him and his family.
Flat tax is BS. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise .
John, that is a powerful article and I thank you for that. That should be required reading provided by Democrats at every level. I remember the crisis of the mid 1980’s very clearly, if you had money in savings, you were making out very well, that is, if you were not ranching or farming. Now, the trick is for wealthy farmers is to buy up range land and convert it to failed cropland just to collect the insurance on a failed crop. So legitimate ranchers and farmers can clearly see the graft and corruption and yet they are really helpless to do anything about it. They thought that trump would be the right choice for that and now they know they have been betrayed.
The populist message should be the same one that united ranchers and farmers in the mid 1980’s. Enough is enough, but now they know their numbers are not what they were in those days. Most of the places are maned by old ranchers and farmers because the young have left and moved to where they can survive. It is a bad deal in the rural community, a very bad deal. NOem, Thune, Rounds, Krebs and every other roypublican are the reason for the failures we are seeing, The blood that has been shed by their lack of funding for critical mental health is one their hands. Daugaard as well and his legislature are guilty as charged for the failure of Medicaid Expansion. .
jerry “NOem, Thune, Rounds, Krebs and every other roypublican are the reason for the failures we are seeing,”
Farms fail for a variety of reasons and not a single one of those you mentioned above were in office during the 80’s when the largest number of farms failed. The truth be known, most farms fail due to poor management rather than weather, government or markets. In addition, most farm failures were a result of farmers who inherited the family farm but did not have the business skills needed to continue a successful farm and guess what? You can’t go to a college to and acquire a degree that allows you to successfully operate a farm. Take a look at the SDSU Ag Business major.
Farming success is based upon one small statement: Does it cost me less to grow than what I sell it for? That’s it. That is all there is on the the business side but as small as that statement is the truth and toil behind it is huge. Most young people, even having grown up on the farm can’t answer that question and SDSU’s Ag Business contains ONE class, over the 4 years, that is required to learn how to answer than simple question. But it isn’t just SDSU. It is Purdue, UND and most other colleges that are taught by folks that have never run a business much less a farm.
Personally I am not a farmer. A lot of my family are farmers. I think it is very hard work. Somewhat physically but I would think mostly mentally tasking. I tried to do a simple business model for a feed lot and even then between understanding the business side and then adding in the needs of animals it became an easy decision to pass on that investment. I still like looking at a field of beans clean of any corn stalks, watching a herd of cattle in a nice field grazing or walking through a hog barn but handling the responsibility of a farm is more of a commitment than I could make. No, a politician isn’t the reason why a farm fails. They may contribute a small bit but the failure of a farm lays at the foot of the person doing the farming just as failure in anything else lays at the foot of whoever undertook an endeavor and failed.
I don’t believe you will see many small farmers in the future. With the complexity of running a farm profitably, cost of the equipment and considering the cost of the land alone you can’t cash flow a farm without the backing of a large corporation. Sure, you will still see small mom&pop farms hanging on growing enough to just feed themselves or doing contract work but the day of small farms toiling away on the land and making a good living are gone, if they truly ever existed.
OldPest-as usual you are way off base. Whoever you troll for ain’t getting their money’s worth- by a long shot.
Farm Bust of the 1980s – Living History Farm
livinghistoryfarm.org/farminginthe70s/money_05.html
Farm Bust of the 1980s : … As farmers couldn’t pay back their loans, there were more bank failures than at any time since the Great Depression.
Of course non of the above were in office in the mid 1980’s, but that does not mean that they are not adding to the bottom going out of the ag business presently. All three of these Roypublicans voted for the farm bills that do nothing to help ranchers farmers more than put them into further peril. The Farm Bill is geared towards corporate farms that are run from anyplace other than South Dakota for the write off and price control. BTW, all three of them are against COOL that clearly would help producers get market value for product.
You do have a point with you last paragraph with the exception of, “if they truly ever existed”, and that is the same point John’s great link brings to the table. I grew up in a small rural community that had a very good economic main street. In my view, the Vietnam War changed all of that. When you do not have small farms in the future except for their own gardens, then you do not have the small town infrastructure that is needed with their purchasing power.
If you consider the present day small operation rancher and farmer’s expense ratio to product sold, you can clearly see that the banks are holding onto a lot of paper that is underwater. When there is a call on that paper, there will be a disaster that will further shake the foundations of the industry to a crumble. Consider this, a rancher family that are in their late 50’s and early 60’s with a couple of kids still on their insurance (risk $14,000.00 for the family if it all goes to hell on them), they will pay in the neighborhood of $25,000.00 to $30,000.00 a year in insurance premiums because they make more that what a subsidy will allow, in other words, impoverishing the producer ever further. Medicaid Expansion would help the small producers in such a big way, but Roypublican Daugaard, and the rest of the same in his legislature, deny that for the hell of it.
How many bushel of wheat will need to be produced to pay just for those premiums How many head of cattle? Add in machinery, farm vehicles and it does not dollar out.
Small family farms did all right until korporations and land speculators drove the price of land up where the small farmer couldn’t afford to own.
Then Monsanto captured the patent market for GMOs and sued farmers whose crops were infected with patented genetics for patent infringement. The gubmint decided to back the big guys against all else.
Having slaughterhouses raise their own beef and hogs and then buy from themselves first to drive the market down for independent producers didn’t help the little guys, either.
Jerry: “Consider this, a rancher family that are in their late 50’s and early 60’s with a couple of kids still on their insurance (risk $14,000.00 for the family if it all goes to hell on them), they will pay in the neighborhood of $25,000.00 to $30,000.00 a year in insurance premiums because they make more that what a subsidy will allow, in other words, impoverishing the producer ever further.”
You are right again. My sister and her family (farmers) call themselves the 3%’ers if only because they also fall into that window, that does not qualify for subsidies and cannot afford health insurance. Had the government not cancelled their high deductible insurance they would be covered now but, alas, the government in its all knowing centralized east coast wisdom, has decided they know better than an American family how to provide products to the masses. This does speak to the root of the issue; the government is not designed, educated nor manned to know anything about business, marketing or providing service and/or products. This is to the great folly of most of the posters on this site. They “think” there is this mystical government out there that cares about their lives, living conditions and families. They are mistaken. The government cares about collecting from the people and giving it to others they think are “owed”. This is why you see people like mike from idiocy spouting off while doing nothing to better society yet runs to the store on the 10th of every month to buy his groceries on his EBT and whines because his SSDI check is so pullus. He contributes nothing, thinks government is wise and the world owes him an existence. You’ll never see the likes of him hire on as a farm hand. . .
OS – The government didn’t and couldn’t cancel anyone’s insurance. The “high deductible” insurance they had was a scam. The ACA (ObamaCare) made insurance companies sell a product that wasn’t a scam. i.e. If you contracted a cancer, ms, diabetes or another long term illness the insurance companies refused to renew at the end of the standard yearly term of the policy. Then, being labeled “pre-existing” made buying any other police impossible. Medical bankruptcy skyrocketed. In short … your family thought they were insured when they were just being scammed and paying premiums for catastrophic insurance coverage that didn’t exist past the end of the year.
Porter: That is stupid. The high deductible insurance worked and worked well for those who understood it.
By the way: I thought about this a lot: I have said in the past I wasn’t a Trump fan but that “I think” was mostly because he wasn’t a “professional”. He tends to be a bit rude, self indulgent and just doesn’t do what we all think he should. Basically he broke our model of what a president should do. Yes, whether you are a democrat or a republican Trump just didn’t fit. Trump is Ferris Bueller. That is why so many of us don’t like him. We are all conditioned to follow the standards given to us by our institutional masters but Trump does not abide by those rules and that is why we all have a problem with him. This is also why his base cannot be deterred from supporting him. Trump (Ferris II) has upset the apple cart and the rest of you (me included) have all been chasing behind him when, in fact, we should all be supporting him.
Trump is Ferris Bueller II.
os-Medicaid expansion is the answer, but SD left hundreds of millions on the table and now daugaard is crying about weak farm economy.
In the late 80’s and 90’s, there were only deductible plans. There were no co pays nor were drugs covered by themselves, everything went to the deductible. There were limits on the plans though and they could also be canceled according to your zip code. Rancher friends of mine had a high deductible plan on him and his wife. They both were sick as hell, and the premium went up each month for both of them. In those days, it was over $2,000.00 a month and rising for the two in about 1994, more or less. They had to keep it until they died. In a sense, they were the lucky ones as the plan had a two million lifetime for each of them and they damned near burned through that before they passed.
Renewabilty and lifetime maximums, along with child coverage until 26 and then a guarantee policy with no pre existing, were the reason for the ACA plans. We have forgotten that, but the insurance companies have not forgotten. Wellmark of Iowa declared to our state that they were gonna stop writing policies here because they had a kid that used one million bucks a month in drugs as a teenager…in Iowa. They left our state and canceled their individual policies because they had a large claim that would not end because of the ACA. The kid would have died, here it is: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/06/01/iowa-teens-1-million-per-month-illness-no-longer-secret/360919001/
Now trump/NOem/Thune/Rounds want to go back to the days when you could cancel or simply price people out of coverage because of cooking the books and reneging on the promise made. Roypublicans cannot keep their word. So when you see someone loose their business because the premium goes up 67% on all the employees each renewal until the business rots, then you understand the personal costs.
Your family is in trouble because they cannot afford protection. They are as American as apple pie (although that pie thingy is debatable) so why don’t they take that up with those that have taken their security away from them? This was done by the very people they vote for time after time with the same results. trump said that he would provide health care that would be cheap cheap cheap and good good good, he is a liar. NOem said many times (65 and counting) that Roypublicans had a replacement that was ready to go. NOem is a liar. The list goes on.
Bottom line is that Roypublicans will kill the ACA, kill it and we will go back to the way it was. That my friend is the reality of what your family is paying right now. Those prices they are not being able to afford are the reality of the Roypublican healthplan. Ain’t that a doozy?
OS … “That’s stupid” and an assertion that an insurance policy that could cancel you at their discretion if you contracted a long term illness, worked well isn’t a valid argument. Being labeled “pre-existing” and turned down legally from buying insurance, isn’t insurance that worked … not for the consumer, anyway.
I have personal knowledge that these events happened very frequently and facts that medical bankruptcy was the biggest cause of bankruptcy before Obamacare.
Your turn to present evidence.
OS … Now, to address your claim that your friends pay $25,000 to $30,000 a year for their health insurance. No one pays more than they can afford under Obamacare. Many complain because they pay more than they want to pay but if they couldn’t afford it, they would get a subsidy like all USA citizens are entitled to. They’re paying $1250.00 each, a month for rock solid insurance that can’t be canceled (unless they don’t pay). Insurance company profit levels are monitored just like gas and electric and any public utility so no one is being gouged … even people who think they’re paying too much. If that’s what you think readers then let’s explore a public health plan which would cut everyone’s cost by at least half.
Mr. Lansing, I made the statement of a family paying $25,000.00 to $30,000.00 for the year for their coverage. They also have a teen on the policy. I know them personally and are also in the ag business. They make more than the allowed subsidy so they must pay the full amount of the insurance. They need the insurance so they cannot just drop it. Just because your line 37, adjusted gross income is higher than what is allowed, does not mean you can take a $2,500.00 per month insurance premium hit. BTW, that premium is with either Sanford or Avera individual, not group, as they had both quotes.
So why is it so high, I ask myself. The answer lies with the lies of NOem and the other stooge Roypublicans. They are the ones that made it that way. This is not an ACA issue, this is pure evil that comes from them alone.
Mike from Iowa,
1) She’s an architect who regurgitated the NY times- We already know what a s**t show Republicans and 45 are. You are singing to the choir.
NY times missed telling you the real news- 45 just triggered a race to the bottom between the US, Israel, EU, and UK because they now are going to do corporate tax cuts to keep their businesses at home.
One should note that Asia is not included in this dire prediction.
Or that :
We have 8 million more households just in population growth from 2006 to 2016 but 400,000 fewer homeowners. Translated that means 9 million or even 10 million have lost their homes through foreclosure or short sale from 2006 through 2014- That means fewer people in 2017 can afford to own a home then in 2006.
Or that China is buying U.S. technology for pennies on the dollar.
We all know that since Reagan, Republicans have had bad ideas on the economy -but since Reagan the Dems also made bad moves that moved money earned off my labor into the hands of a few select rich people, and are currently introducing more bad policies that the Republicans will no doubt endorse even though to all outward appearances it may look like a cat fight. They also signal an economy that is going downward again. Oh yeah and the Dems just hired Dan Halpern- Dare you to tell me that is a good sign.
We have both Democrats and Republicans ignoring Roosevelt’s wisdom and have effectively repealed the New Deal. We are back in the same place as 1936. The difference is that, back then, we had FDR to push back against the B*****ds, now we have a party pushing with them. Not many Democrats, “welcome their hate.” In fact most of them fear their hate because they ” welcome their money” in the form of campaign donations.
Obama campaigned as a populist and a liberal. Unfortunately, he quickly disowned that ideology when in power, enjoying hanging around with the likes of Larry summers and Robert Rubin.
Cory, here is how to play the game of elitists, act like one. Here is how you do not have to be one, but be taxed like one. file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/SSRN-id3084187.pdf All perfectly legal and all of that stuff.
Touche Cory,
But what does Marxist theory have to do with reframing ? You know the first paragraph is from Marxist theory ? reframing is about taking an issue and framing it words that the opposition works from.
Let me give you some examples of re-framing.
Favorite overused reframes by Republicans is jobs,economy, reform, and fairer – Fairer is in there just for the Dems because they operate from a perspective of justice.
If you look at SD, bills are so bad they try to pass them through in all their ugly glory and when they fail , they go back and call it something much prettier but it’s the same stinking bill.
Obama reframed bailouts as orderly restitution’s . Restitution’s meaning that something was wrongfully taken away and now is rightfully restored again Democratic taxpayers operate from a sense of justice and restitution is justice.
SD republicans had to shut down any Republican opposition since Republican constituents voted for I 22- They used UnConstitutional ( favorite word of Republicans)
Bad framing – Gay Marriage for one. Most Republicans were all for gay rights but marriage implies sex and yeah the religious are a little funky about the image.
Dems did do fairly well on Tax scam though.
Jerry,
You said there are four people insured for $25-$30,000 a year. That’s about $500 each, a month. That’s the going rate. I was in private business all my life and I know that what you show on the IRS form is always less than what you really make … especially in farming where hiding income is a way of life. Like I said, I don’t know what they make but obviously they’re affording the insurance because they’re paying it.
Now, about why it’s so expensive. It’s so expensive because stubborn, conservatives don’t know the difference between fiscal socialism (buying as a group to get a better price) and Communism (where the govt. tells you what govt. job you’re going to do for a living).
~ Question for the “no new taxes” crowd. If your taxes go up 15% a month but your net expenses go down 30% a month is that a “bad tax”? No. That’s a fantastic, bargain of a tax. People in Europe have more money left at the end of the month than Americans do PLUS their taxes cover all healthcare, college education with a $900 per student monthly stipend, retirement pension, vacation, sick leave, parental leave and a certified quality of life higher than American’s have. Why don’t we have this plan?
I am late to the party, but I would like to add another bullet point to the list. To increase profits, corporations have out-sourced training; corporations expect well-trained applicant ready to do the job on day 1. That has resulted in more need for vocational training (or even college) at the expense of the individual student and more encroachment into the k-12 curriculum to make students “career ready” – all in service of the employer profit. Furthermore, this mass creation of good workers has the effect of suppressing wages (large supply reduces prices) for our new, young workers – again increasing the profit for the corporation.
Leslie: “Paul Ryan discovered most Americans don’t have an extra $500 for emergencies . . .”
I’ll go one further, nearly half of Americans don’t have even $500.00 saved for retirement. Once we allowed corporations to phase out pension plans (to maximize profit) and shift the burden of retirement onto individuals through 401K and IRA plans, we created a generation that cannot afford to retire. The failure of the individual retirement social experiment in the US (and EVERY country to try it) is another untold story of corporate greed.
O- back when Snott Wanker and the koch bros bought the 2011 Wisconsin Goobernatorial election, Walker had a plan to get rid of unions. He claimed it was what Wisconsin big business wanted. It wasn’t. They loved the unions because the unions took on apprentices and trained them at their own expense to do the jobs big companies needed workers for.
They begged Walker not to bisband the unions because the union workers gladly moved next door to Minnesota which welcomed highly trained workers with open arms. Now Wisconsin has to change the university system to train workers for big businesses in Wisconsin at taxpayer expense.
Porter, in group health insurance those $500.00-$600.00 premiums per month per individual are for plans that have much lower deductibles, office visits, drug benefits and lower out of pocket maximums. On these individual plans, these are high deductibles, high out of pocket maximums with high office co-pays and higher drug costs. They are not the same.
Regarding the hiding of income by the ag community. I will say this. That premium money is all part of their operating expenses they will get when they put their packages together for their banker. So this is not a matter of going out in the back yard and digging up a stash, it is about the cost of doing business that will insure the bank is secure on the ag loan for the year.
A business can make adjustments in their operating costs of the goods they sell to help offset the higher costs of insurance, the producer cannot. The sales of commodities are controlled.
Porter, you also miss a very crucial point in Europe, transportation. Public transportation reaches even the most distant places each day in rural areas. There are regular bus routes that take you to and from for visits or if you live there. Rails systems that are dedicated to passenger service and lines dedicated to freight. Ya, why can’t we have them here as well, we used to until elites took them away.
Jerry … Point well taken about public transit. They have it where I live. I gave my BMW to Children’s Hospital in 2004 and haven’t missed owning a car at all. The newest thing here is hyper-loop. I had a German chef working for me who got his driver’s license as a graduation gift. It cost over a thousand dollars. People take out 20 year loans for autos and put very few miles on them. Also, there’s no where in the all of Europe that’s as rural as South Dakota.
thx O.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/12/this-is-how-many-billions-of-dollars-each-of-the-15-richest-families-in-america-will-save-if-we-repeal-the-estate-tax/#
lets not have a governor who failed to expand Medicaid, failed to root out the real EB5 fraud/crony story and failed to oversee MCEC fraud/crony accountability—-followed by a governor responsible for giving away the estate tax at our cost.
Sutton and Bjorkman need to pay attention to this application in SD. :) “…nearly two thirds of voters the seventh district are African American, a group that overwhelmingly supported Jones in his contest with Roy Moore.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/12/13/how-doug-jones-lost-in-nearly-every-congressional-district-but-still-won-the-state/?hpid=hp_hp-cards_hp-card-business2%3Ahomepage%2Fcard&utm_term=.3134c3e200d2
speaking of corporate elite, “Donald Trump Jr. on Wednesday met with the Senate Intelligence Committee for a closed-door interview that lasted just over nine hours…his third interview on Capitol Hill, coming just one week after… the House Intelligence Committee and similarly answered lawmakers’ questions about his Russian contacts…Capitol Police attempted to shield reporters and camera crews from witnessing Trump Jr.’s entrance into the secure meeting location, despite several reporters spotting him going inside…. ” http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/364825-trump-jr-meets-with-senate-intel-panel-amid-russia-probe
trump administration is a nightmare. dems can never again use up our next eight years cleaning up republican messes. we have to affix accountability for it
These republican greedy ignorant bastards are still trying to sabotage the ACA in the conference tax cut agreement of the two houses.
I lost my significant other to pancreatic cancer last year. It was a long hard two years.
Mo Brooks the alabama republican congressman: “Speaking from the House floor, Brooks said that he learned of his “high risk” prostate cancer in October. Appearing to hold back tears, the congressman talked about the night he called his wife to tell her the prognosis, when she was handing out candy to trick-or-treaters, and called it “one of loneliest nights apart in our 41-year marriage.”
During his speech on the floor, Brooks said he had a “very good cure prognosis” and hoped to return to Washington following the recess next year. He said he will undergo surgery this Friday and a post-surgery medical procedure on December 20.
Brooks pushed his colleagues to take care of themselves and get regular cancer screenings.
Great Mo — now you get it. The point of health care cost spread across the whole population! In May however he thought people are at fault for their illnesses, so they should pay more than him and his healthy colleagues (with permanent congressional health care). “Brooks went on to explain, because that would mean lower premiums for healthy people who “have done the things to keep their bodies healthy … who have done things the right way.”
when it came to his generalization that people in good health “have done things the right way,” entitling them to lower health insurance premiums, she found those comments “mind-boggling” and “arrogant.”
“My whole life … before and during cancer treatment, I have exercised more than anybody I know,” Hammers said. “I don’t know anybody my age as fit as I am, who can walk up a hill faster, … further.”
Hammers says that Brooks has a “blame the victim” mentality and was drawing an artificial distinction between the healthy and sick.
“He’s saying, ‘why should we make healthy people pay more, shouldn’t they get to pay less?’ Well, guess what? Everybody is healthy until they get sick.”
Ironic, huh republicans???
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mo-brooks-obamacare-repeal-right-way_us_5907daede4b05c397681cbf2
Brooks is finding out what his imaginary god feels about phony kristians who take from the poor and give to themselves and others UP the food chain.
At least he won’t die young and can’t claim to be a good person. Gawd I hate these wingnuts. As Juanita Jean says- I really do.
People-you’ve got to elect Billie Sutton Governor. Its the only chance you have. You blew it failing to support Wismer or HRC. SD, you’ve got one more chance. Its the vote that counts. Anyone but governor will be held hostage by the Republican party.
Ms. Wismer was too angry to serve as governor. Hillary Rodham Clinton never ran for Governor in South Dakota. Ms. Noem is probably drooling.
an angry CPA! what an imagination.
this is a motto of the Dem party:
‘You lose power if you get angry’
grdz u have low reading comprehension. simpleton :)
btw, have u met old sarge?–you’d like him, a drooling party. my duo has a no drooling policy
Ms. leslie, perhaps I should have written “bitter” instead of “angry.” Ms. Wismer is very bitter and down at the mouth. That is why she is mocked in the legislatures.
Wrong, grudz, and right, leslie. Dems haven’t gotten angry enough.
Mike from iowa
You are kidding right ? You don’t really think that the left doesn’t take money from Corporations ?
Why do you think the banking and insurance industry got away with bloody murder and wealth during the meltdown ?
ACA was a gift to a sagging insurance industry that was loosing premiums due to cost. If the ACA would have been neutral it would have been a public insurance option where profit would have been neutralized.
Dems have had power 16 out of 24 years and control of Congress for several years……………………. WTF did they roll back ?
Dems purged the progressives in the 50’s and they are currently working on it again – Maybe you need to reframe this war ?
Oh yeah and I forgot- Your so called Dem is pretty much running a red campaign and refuses to answer any question regarding doing anything on anything – Montana stood strong even as a purple state and tightened down Net Neutrality better than Obama- AT&T and Verizon is now begging Congress to make a net neutrality law because they are afraid that other states will follow Montana’s law.
Sutton refuses to answer any questions on any issue- I have read every Dem platform that running in the state of SD – They are vague and when you try to pin them down on their platform they run- It’s going to be another Red year sadly.
Clinton had a vicious, opposing congress for 6 of his 8 years and Obama had a filibuster proof majority for around four months in his first term.
Dems have never been the obstructionists wingnuts proved themselves to be.