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Majority Now Supports Removing Donald Trump from Office

While we’ve got Stace Nelson on the line, we should ask him if he’s done trumpeting the democratic will of the people.

Last month while it was raining like crazy, the Fulton Fulminator took (or at least retweeted) the unusual anti-republican position that our elected representatives should subordinate their judgment and conduct (in this case, on the republic-shaking matter of impeachment) to the whims of the majority. A month ago, Stace could cite polls showing around 60% of voters opposing impeachment  and appeal to our sense of democracy and majority rule to protect the Incompetent-in-Chief

Now that it’s snowing in South Dakota and raining cats and Ukrainian dogs on Donald Trump, Stace’s argument is all wet. The latest Fox News poll finds 51% of Americans want Trump impeached and removed from office:

Fox News impeachment poll graphic, in Dana Blanton, "Fox News Poll: Record Support for Trump Impeachment," Fox News, 2019.10.09.
Fox News impeachment poll graphic, in Dana Blanton, “Fox News Poll: Record Support for Trump Impeachment,” Fox News, 2019.10.09.

Fox News. Fox News. Can we believe Fox News?

Despite the Trump campaign’s grievances, Fox News’ polls are among the most reputable in the industry. Conducted since 2010 by two campaign veterans — Boston-based Democrat Chris Anderson, who polls for Massachusetts state Attorney General Maura Healey, and Republican Daron Shaw, a professor of the University of Texas in Austin and a longtime adviser to former Gov. Rick Perry — the poll has a long track record of accuracy.

At Fox News, the poll is managed by Dana Blanton, the network’s vice president for public opinion research, along with politics editor Chris Stirewalt and Arnon Mishkin, who has led the network’s election-night decision desk for decades. The trio was profiled last month by the Los Angeles Times under the headline, “Inside Fox News’ polling ‘nerdquarium,’ whose numbers don’t lie whether Trump likes them or not.”

And while the poll sample did consist of more Democrats (48 percent, including self-identified independents who said they lean toward the Democratic Party) than Republicans (40 percent, including GOP-leaning independents), that is consistent with their past surveys and mountains of other research that show that more Americans identify as Democrats than Republicans [Abbey Marshall, “Trump Rips into Fox News Pollster: ‘They Suck’,” Politico, 2019.10.10].

I can’t bring myself to spend all night refreshing Stace’s Twitter feed any more than I can spend Lent whacking my back with a cat-o-nine tails. But no that a majority has swung for the moment to favor not just impeachment but removal of the President, we can expect Senator Nelson to revise and extend his remarks to scrub any deference to democratic majority rule on impeachment any moment now….


  1. Debbo 2019-10-10 20:14

    538 has 49% supporting impeachment, 47% opposed and 4% undecided.

    Looks ugly for Ugly UnAmerican. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving “president.”

  2. Debbo 2019-10-10 20:47

    I double checked the 538 aggregation of polls.

    “According to our average, 48.8 percent of people support impeachment, while only 43.6 percent don’t support it.”

  3. Debbo 2019-10-10 20:58

    From NPR:

    “more independents approve of the inquiry than disapprove, by a 54-41% margin, a net change of 19 points.”

    “68% say it’s not acceptable to ask a foreign country’s leader for help investigating a potential political opponent; that includes 40% of Republicans.”

    “52% say they will definitely vote against Trump in 2020, and just 42% approve of the job the president is doing.”

    “at the end of September, 80% of Republicans said they were following the news about the impeachment inquiry at least fairly closely. In this poll, that’s dropped 12 points, while Democrats and independents have essentially maintained their levels.”

    GOP voters don’t want to read about Treasonous Traitor’s criminal behavior. Don’t want to know.

  4. Debbo 2019-10-10 21:49

    More bumbling from Russian Rudy and his pals. 2 Russian nationals were part of his “team” in Ukraine and then here in the USA. They were funneling $100,000s into pro Lying Lunatic PACs. Also Pete Sessions, R-TX, he lost. And Nevada governor candidate Adam Laxalt-R, he lost.

  5. happy camper 2019-10-11 05:22

    Does a mentally fit president say this? “As I have stated strongly before, and just to reiterate, if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits, I will totally destroy and obliterate the Economy of Turkey (I’ve done before!),” said Trump on Twitter Monday.

    This just can’t continue. Maybe his actions toward the Kurds will finally turn Republicans against him in sufficient numbers for impeachment. They were cheering him on in Minnesota when he said Biden was only a good VP cause he kissed Obamas ass. This is just surreal it doesn’t even seem possible the crazy things he says. He must go.

  6. mike from iowa 2019-10-11 07:39

    Are wingnut crickets susceptible to freezing temps and snow? How much moar embarrassment and humiliation will wingnut crickets dump on their constituents before shame finally kicks in and they vote to remove this stain ?

    Will it ever become too much for them masters of living in denial?

  7. mike from iowa 2019-10-11 07:52

    Debbo, OT and good news….. Social security cola raise for next year is projected to be $24 moar per month.

  8. Ryan 2019-10-11 09:03

    I’m 100% in support of our stupid president being removed from office for his absolute inability to do the job, for his criminal behavior, and because he is an embarrassment to our entire country.

    I am also offended by debbo’s objectification of a human being based on his physical appearance. Try to get on the right side of the social progress that’s been made recently. It’s not the 50s anymore. Words matter, and we should all try to set examples for the younger, more impressionable folks who want to be engaged in political conversations. Making personal insults about the way somebody looks is very childish.

  9. happy camper 2019-10-11 09:50

    But is he dangerous? Many mental health professionals think so but can’t speak out because the APA won’t allow it. Some have spoken out regardless. Link below.

    From article: The president was more dangerous than people suspected, would grow more dangerous with time, and could ultimately become uncontainable. Much of what we predicted in the book has come to pass: Trump’s rhetoric has clearly incited violence, cruel policies against children that could lay the groundwork for future violence, enhancing a culture of violence both domestically and abroad, and the weakening of institutions that might have contained him.

    Whereas law enforcement generally looks at committed deeds, mental health experts look at patterns of behavior to try to prevent dangers based on predictable characteristics and evidence. Trump’s recent reference to his “great and unmatched wisdom,” which is supposed to reassure us in his decision to let Turkey loose on the Kurds in Syria, is only the latest manifestation of the dangerous lack of capacity.;_ylt=AwrC0wxOkKBdpHsAyznQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBybGY3bmpvBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMyBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg–

  10. o 2019-10-11 09:56

    Let us re-frame this impeachment discussion: instead of should we impeach the President, let us ask if the evidence of solicitation of government interference for the political gain of a President warrants impeachment. Make the crime the center of the discussion – have the man face the consequences (too often it is the other way around).

    I want this President out of office (and have since his inauguration); I have supported the impeachment of this President since his actions with the Ukraine became known. I don’t want this to be a silly popularity contest, or a co-opting of the general want of removal, but a recognition of focused issue-driven disapproval of actions unbecoming a President for his specific high crimes and misdemeanors.

  11. jerry 2019-10-11 10:20

    Chubby is in bed with Turkey at the trump towers in Istanbul, Turkey.

    Chubby will not devastate Turkey’s economy, far from it, as he is invested personally there. Now, simple folks like myself, wonder how much Rounds, Thune and Dirty have invested in it as well. The blind following of Chubby may be only as blind as the bank accounts being soothed. Loopey Lindsey Graham may talk tough, but he doesn’t care a bucket of spit if the Kurd allies live or die and more or less has said it in the recent past. BTW, fun fact, The Kurd’s actually were allied with the US against Nazism and Fascism in World War Deuce. They may not have been at the Normandy beach head, but with their help, we were able to divert the troops needed to get that done. Thanks to Chubby, now you know the rest of the story.

  12. happy camper 2019-10-11 10:29

    Yes O, in a perfect world it should only be about the matter at hand, but the Republicans have been protecting him to stay in power, so you can’t remove it from being politicized. If, for other legitimate reasons, they see him as a political liability, only then will they take the corrective action. As public opinion shifts there will be a tipping point making it acceptable to get rid of him. That may be dangerously close to the ends justifying the means, but everything he says and does is part of the milieu.

  13. o 2019-10-11 10:57

    happy, and to be fair, a lot of Democrats were calling for impeachment over any-and-all political disagreements: partisan posturing — to the point I was afraid that the system would fail when truly needed as in “The Boy Who Called Wolf.

  14. mike from iowa 2019-10-11 11:28

    Ryan’s last paragraph @ 9:03 should really have been aimed in drumpf’s direction. He, afterall, allegedly is the leader of the most powerful nation on Earth and has not acted like a mature adult, yet.

  15. bearcreekbat 2019-10-11 11:42

    A similar concern to o’s comment is whether the current Republican party, including Thune, Rounds, Johnson and other State and federal Republican leaders have simply decided protecting our Nation’s longstanding institutions and moral foundations, namely, the Presidency, the Constitution,democracy, the rule of law, and the future of their children and grandchildren, now ranks below the temporary possession of relatively unfettered power. The objective evidence currently available certainly suggests this has been the case since Republicans decided on Trump as their leader. Will it change?

  16. happy camper 2019-10-11 11:58

    He’s not a mature adult. I’m convinced he’s dangerous, truly dangerous. Did you notice those blonde, fresh-faced Minnesota girls laughing, clapping, dancing when Trump said Biden was only a good VP cause he kissed Obama’s ass. Deb kept telling us it’s different over there in Minnesota but those girls were lovin themselves some Trump. What about that Debra??? Where is this gonna go it’s very worrisome and we’ve heard nothing from our European allies about Trump and the Kurds. It’s time for them to fully call out Trump for his irrational behavior. They’ve tried to be diplomatic but call a spade a spade he cannot be trusted. He should not be President of the United States.

  17. o 2019-10-11 12:34

    MFI, although lower courts seem to be siding with the law, I do worry about when the court stacking starts to pa off the for the GOP; what happens when they can get these cases to the judges they have put on the bench — up to and including the Supremes? I really worry about a Gore v Bush 2.0 scenario where politics overtakes jurisprudence.

    It is DEEPLY troubling that our nation of laws must filter those laws through the prism of “Bush” judges or “Obama” judges, or “Trump” judges.

  18. Ryan 2019-10-11 12:38


    Many people, including me, have called trump’s behavior childish, racist, sexist, inappropriate, and many other words of condemnation. Trump being the way he is also encourages a lot of easily influenced people to also be childish, racist, sexist, or inappropriate. I think that’s a problem. It’s not OK for other people to be childish, racist, sexist, and inappropriate just because trump is. We should try to be better than him – it doesn’t take much. And that’s my point. Let’s all try to be very very different from trump, not follow his lead.

  19. Debbo 2019-10-11 12:46

    From NPR:

    “John Herath, the news director at Farm Journal, polls more than a thousand farmers monthly. He says Trump’s popularity slumped a bit in the summer, but bounced back, to 76% favorable, the week the House launched its impeachment inquiry.”

    I don’t know how scientific Herath’s polls are, but I suspect there is a fair degree of accuracy. It’s regrettable that people who are getting kicked in the teeth willingly line up for more.

  20. mike from iowa 2019-10-11 13:12

    Right you are, O, however, there are ome hints that the new wingnuts aren’t going to be rubber stamps for koch bros causes. In the LGBTQ case before the court new Justice Gosuck made noises like he isn’t dead set appalled at the idea of Gay people. He could be a swing voter much in the line of Kennedy.

    I get it, Ryan. There are some of us that bandy about names to remind wingnuts what they are apparently gleefully putting up with under spoiled brat Drumpf. He is delving deeply into racism, misogyny and hatred of Muslims to stir up his voters. I intend to remind them every chance I get.

  21. happy camper 2019-10-11 13:23

    Ends never justify the means but it’s hard to take the high road when Trump has no road. He has no compass and easily pulls in what segment of the population is deplorable, or young, or easily influenced. Those dancing Pippi Longstockings are hard to get out of my head.

  22. o 2019-10-11 13:25

    Looking down the road, as the evidence mounts and the case becomes clear, will the GOP in the Senate vote to impeach AND wash their hands of all the bad they have done backing the President up to that vote? Does an affirming impeachment vote wash away GOP sin?

    Representative Johnson had a telephone town hall a few weeks ago where he made CLEAR he was against impeachment for President Trump; it would slow the important work of Congress. Does he need to answer for that absolute political position should impeachment happen?

  23. Ryan 2019-10-11 13:40

    mike, as long as you are aware that you are behaving in the same way as somebody whose behavior you are condemning, i guess do your thing. There’s a word for that, but you knew that, too.

  24. Porter Lansing 2019-10-11 13:53

    Trump filled a 20,000 seat arena with maybe another 10,000 outside. Minnesota has 3.3 million registered voters. Nickleback can fill 20,000 seats, and they suck.
    Most interesting to me, today is … What if Romney runs as an independent?

  25. happy camper 2019-10-11 13:56

    I think it shows why two sides are an unhealthy form of government. They’ll go to almost any lengths to win, even “good guys” like Johnson will fall in line. Better maybe is a coalition form of government, but why when so many consider themselves Independents even if they register R or D, why are those swing voters not the most influential group? I can’t grasp or explain the polarization right now.

  26. Porter Lansing 2019-10-11 14:18

    If you happen to talk politics with a Republican (It’s SD. How can you not talk to a Republican?) here are your talking points.
    ~ A nationwide survey showed these are the two things about Trump’s Ukraine strongarm tactic, most bothersome to Americans.
    1. It showed Trump thinks he is above the law. – 22% of those surveyed.
    2. Trump tried to use a foreign government to influence elections. – 20% of those surveyed
    Seven other answers ranged from 12% down.
    It was a criminal violation of campaign finance laws, bothered 3% of Americans the most.

  27. mike from iowa 2019-10-11 15:00

    I’ve said this before, Drumpf needs an intervention and needs to be placed in a rubber room with no sharp objets and no tv or twitter for life.

    A Democrat could never get away with a fraction of the stuff wingnuts ignore from drumpf. Is this what wingnuts want to be remembered for in the future?

    I know, HRC had emails, right?

  28. jerry 2019-10-11 15:12

    What I find incredible is that there are 20,000 white racist folks in Minnesota. I never would have thought there could possibly be that many. I thought maybe a dozen or so, but wow.

  29. Porter Lansing 2019-10-11 15:40

    MFI … Looks like Obama’s doings. With Hillary’s e-mails.

  30. mike from iowa 2019-10-11 15:56

    Right on, Porter.

  31. Debbo 2019-10-11 16:41

    Okay, let’s see.

    Ryan, is this what you’re talking about when you said I made fun of appearance, “ugly unAmerican”?

    Two things.
    1. Ugly American is an old phrase used to describe poor behavior of Americans in other countries. It’s about behavior, not appearance.
    2. I think this is really about your personal problem of dislike for outspoken, feminist women like me because you haven’t said anything about Jerry’s frequently used nickname, “Chubby Trumpy.”
    Now I’m done with Ryan.

    Happy. I’m sad to say that there are GOP fans in Minnesota who support Liar-in-Chief. If that’s what you mean by your “Minnesota is different” quip, that’s my answer. If you had something else in mind, you need to be more explicit.
    You spelled my name wrong. 😊 “Debbo” will do just fine.

    Jerry, it is disappointing that there were 20,000 trumpelstilskins in the Target Center, but plans were already in place prior to the event to fully fumigate all areas Mental Maniac contaminated. 😁

    The thousands more protesters who were outside dwarfed the 20,000. Minneapolis cops did a pretty good job managing the chaos.

  32. Debbo 2019-10-11 21:12

    Cass R. Sunstein wrote a piece for Bloomberg about Tantruming Toddler’s decision to defy lawful Congressional subpoenas. He can’t find any support in law or fact to support that absurdity:

    “What is unusual is the sweeping vow of noncooperation and this wild objection: “you have denied the President the right to cross-examine witnesses, to call witnesses, to receive transcripts of testimony, to have access to evidence, to have counsel present, and many other basic rights guaranteed to all Americans.”

    “An impeachment inquiry is hardly a criminal trial. In fact, it is not a trial of any kind. In a congressional hearing, whether open or closed, members of Congress typically call witnesses and ask them questions. There is no cross-examination. Does the White House counsel really want the president of the United States or his lawyers to be able to cross-examine and call witnesses? What does that even mean?

    “Does the White House counsel think that the U.S. Constitution guarantees that right, in the context of an impeachment inquiry?”

    It’s reprinted in the Strib.

  33. Debbo 2019-10-11 21:37

    Axios has looked at a Democratic survey of why voters find Mental Moron’s latest criminal actions more compelling than earlier ones. The findings show that they believe MM thinks he’s above the law. That was first, but there are other concerns too. You can find them all here:

  34. leslie 2019-10-11 21:42

    The polls usher in a good day for impeachment progress. This, in the face of 11 straight years of unprecedented GOP obstruction.

    Brad Parscale, Trump’s cyber warrior/troll: “This is an outrageous abuse of power by a liberal [Minneapolis] mayor trying to deny the rights of his own city’s residents just because he hates the President,” Trump campaign manager Brad Parscale said in a statement. “People want to hear from their president, and no mayor looking to beef up his resume for a run for higher office should stand in the way.”

    Trump’s campaign owes city governments at least $841,219 in unpaid bills for public safety–related expenses, and Minneapolis doesn’t want to join that club.

    Parscale: “I understood early that Facebook was how Donald Trump was going to win.*** The database of voter information that drove Parscale’s social media advertising campaigns in the 2016 election was dubbed “Project Alamo”, a name which eventually encompassed all of the associated fundraising and political advertising efforts.[25]” wiki

  35. Debbo 2019-10-11 22:13

    Just a note for our deluded commenter:

    “Infowars loses again. Alex Jones is on his third set of lawyers in the Texas cases and he still hasn’t won even one single motion on any of the cases. This decision came down today from the Third Court of Appeals.”

    This is the suit by the parents of the slaughtered Sandy Hook babies against the heartless lying of “AJ” that led to years of nonstop harassment for them. Proof that Jones is scum. By the time this law suit is over he’ll be exposed for the true squirming sewer slug that he is.

  36. jerry 2019-10-11 22:23

    Wag the dog as impeachment gets going, good call Chubby. 3,000 more troops to defend Saudi Arabia from their day of reckoning. Butcher a journalist, and you get American troops. Us and the hapless Brits who are also eyebrow deep in government malfunction.

    “The Pentagon said on Friday it has approved the deployment of 3,000 additional US troops and military hardware to Saudi Arabia, boosting the country’s defenses after attacks on its oil installations.

    US Secretary of Defense Mark Esper authorised the deployment of two more Patriot missile batteries, one THAAD ballistic missile interception system, two fighter squadrons and one air expeditionary wing, the Pentagon said in a statement.”

    Big oil, the root of the rot. I don’t know if China will underwrite this like they did when Cheney drug us into the vacuum called Iraq. I feel like I’m fixin to die rag

  37. Debbo 2019-10-11 23:32

    This makes me feel better. The “packed” Target Center refers only to the lower levels. The upper bowl was empty according to the Minneapolis Fox affiliate reporter:

    “According to KMSP-TV/FOX 9 political reporter Theo Keith, the president’s campaign manager even took to the stage minutes before the rally’s start time to claim that there were only empty seats because so many people were getting food at concession stands.

    “But the picture shared on Keith’s Twitter account shows rows and rows of empty seats in the upper level, making the concession stand explanation laughable.”

  38. mike from iowa 2019-10-12 08:02

    Dumpf really is mentally impaired and for further proof read the article in the link.

    Trump said China had pledge to rapidly ramp up purchases of American farm products, to $40-50 billion. That would be a stunning feat, more than doubling from the prior level of less than $20 billion in 2017.

    Total US agriculture exports were $140 billion in 2018, so that increase would mean a third going to China.

    “So I suggest the farmers go immediately by more land and get bigger tractors,” Trump told reporters at the White House.

    Farmers can’t hang on to what they have and low IQ moron suggests they get bigger. Nutz!

  39. Donald Pay 2019-10-12 09:08


    Cass R. Sunstein also wrote a book on impeachment, going through the various arguments for why the Founders wrote that into the Constitution and why they wrote it as they did. It’s a small book that is written in non-legalese. The key point he makes is that impeachment is NOT a criminal trial. Some actual crimes wouldn’t rise to the level of high crimes and misdemeanors, while some things that aren’t crimes would. The process was left to Congress, not the Courts. They did this because they wanted a political branch in charge. It was to be the people’s representatives that brought impeachment and the Senate that decided removal. They didn’t want a lot of procedure in the way of getting rid of a threat to the republic, and corruption involving foreign interference in American affairs was a major issue at that time. They would view Trump as someone who should be gotten the hell out of there as fast as possible.

  40. Jenny 2019-10-12 13:04

    Usually our Stace responds, Cory, where is he? :)

  41. mike from iowa 2019-10-12 16:12

    Drumpf lost three important appeals this week. Most interesting is the three member 2nd court of appeals voting 2-1 that drunpf has to turn over 8 years of requested tax returns. If drumpf’s lawyers want the entire 2nd circuit to hear the case the court of appeals is lead by none other than a certain Merrick Garland who was buffaloed by wingnuts and kept off the Scotus. I wonder if he carries grudges?

  42. Porter Lansing 2019-10-12 19:33

    Trump lost! China gave up nothing. Xi waited Trump out and spanked his fat fanny, as predicted. Does anyone think Trump wouldn’t claim victory when in fact … he’s a coward! He quit because he’s getting impeached and losing the election. Tens of thousands lost their farms to kiss the ass of #SelfishDonald (Watch Dusty Johnson pucker up and kiss the pig.)

  43. jerry 2019-10-12 20:40

    Mr. Lansing, maybe those tens of thousands just got tired of farming and this gives them the out so they can blame it on China and not themselves for being so easy. They got chumped, simple as that. Now they have China to blame it on and not Chubby. Black is white and up is down. Dirty will collect his winnings from the table along with EB5 guy and Slick as it’s all part of the benefits of being a Republican.

  44. Porter Lansing 2019-10-12 20:56

    Elect a businessman, they said. Hiring a staff to apply for government loans to build subsidized, low income housing isn’t a business. It’s being a welfare baron. Thus, the boy’s name.

  45. den 2019-10-14 09:07

    The graphic and macabre video showing Trump attacking viciously the news media and his political enemies show where his party is at. Even though it is a parody video and will eventually be ‘denounced’ by moderate Republicans, the POTUS and his hard core supporters yuk it up while watching it…they LOVE it! That’s why they openly show it at a national Republican conference for his supporters. Dare not criticize Trump openly even with a letter to the editor, least you and you family are in harms way. Even a government whisleblower is threatened openly by him and his party.
    Get used to it because Trump is accelerating his reign to an AUTOCRACY. He DEMANDS you honor him as the ‘chosen one’. The impeachment effort will fail in the US Senate with McConnell and his puppets like Thune and Rounds following the script.

  46. mike from iowa 2019-10-14 11:58

    This is a man, after all, about whom the Columbia Journalism Review wrote not one, not two, but three separate takedowns. (One headline: “John Solomon Gives Us Less Than Meets the Eye — Again”). The most recent topped out at nearly 5,000 words, highlighting Solomon’s “history of bending the truth to his storyline,” as well as his “hyping [of] petty stories” and his outsized habit of “massaging facts to conjure phantom scandals.”

    Complaints from colleagues tailed Solomon wherever he went; as one former co-worker said about Solomon’s work, “Facts be damned.” Small wonder that, as The Daily Beast reported last week, staffers at The Hill were “enraged” by his presence at the publication.

  47. Debbo 2019-10-14 14:19

    The gossip is that Shep Smith left Faux Noize due to getting tired of the constant harassment he got From His Colleagues for telling the truth.

    That despicable business has done more to damage the USA and make Deranged Dotard possible than anything or anyone else. Democrats are definitely the party of peace, else they would have blown that place apart long ago.

  48. Debbo 2019-10-14 14:42

    The gist is, they don’t want to admit they were wrong so they keep doubling down on their terrible bet. There’s more and it’s worth reading the very short piece.

    “[Peter] Wehner, who served in the administrations of presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush and as a senior aide in the White House of President George W. Bush, said it comes down to a concept called the psychology of accommodation.

    “Now it’s not just a defense of Trump. It’s a defense of their defense of Trump,” Wehner said. “To indict him is to indict themselves, and to indict their own judgment, and that’s hard for any human being.”
    From Huff Post via Yahoo! News

  49. Debbo 2019-10-14 15:15

    Newsman Jake Tapper of CNN fries Pompeo and Graham, exposing their egregious hypocrisy. “Those aren’t principles, they’re tactics.”

    The brief video is here:

  50. Debbo 2019-10-14 15:21

    National Memo has an excellent article about Whistleblowing, how it works, laws regarding it, rights and responsibilities, etc. There’s some mention of the latest whistleblower’s support too.

    “An open letter from more than 100 former national security officials applauds the ‘responsible whistleblower’ who came forward with information about President Trump’s Ukraine dealings.”

  51. mike from iowa 2019-10-14 17:49

    Brooke Baldwin rips the orange one a new rectum for not condemning video shown at his property by Drumpf supporting group showing a fake drumpf slaughtering politicians and the press inside a church and smiling afterwards.

    Brooke for potus.

  52. Debbo 2019-10-14 17:51

    Yeah. Cruel Crudface thinks that video is pretty funny. He’s vermin.

  53. jerry 2019-10-14 22:28

    Lovely, now Turkey has control over 50 nuke bombs that Chubby left for them. Hmmm, typical Republican thinking about closing the barn door after Old Bessie left for greener pastures.

    “An estimated 50 nuclear bombs stored at a US airbase in Turkey have become potential bargaining chips in the tense relationship between Washington and Ankara in the wake of the Turkish offensive into Syria.

    Although Donald Trump gave a green light to the offensive in a phone call eight days ago with the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, the US Congress is planning to impose severe sanctions on Turkey. Trump, facing a backlash from his party for acquiescing in the invasion, has backed punitive measures.

    On Monday the EU declared an arms embargo on Turkey, and a planned bipartisan bill in Congress would sanction Turkish leaders and cut off US weapons supplies.”

    I could be wrong, but I think that the art of the deal goes to Turkey on this one. Erdogan, can ransom those nukes to the highest bidder…Nice…Like no one thought of this is really amazing.

  54. Debbo 2019-10-14 22:44

    Diplomatic Dunce left a US military base, complete with nuclear bombs, for brutal dictator Erdogan?!? Are you kidding me!?! Certifiably stupid and insane.

    GOP, this is your guy. This is just as much on you, especially Moscow Mitch.

  55. Debbo 2019-10-14 22:46

    Jerry, everyone beats the Oaf of the Deal. That’s why the Oaf Keepers love him.

  56. jerry 2019-10-14 23:36

    “Oaf Keepers” gotta love that man. true, oh so true.

  57. Robert McTaggart 2019-10-15 00:53

    Turkey is part of NATO, and the US has a base in Turkey where reportedly (according to that article) they keep nuclear weapons. To be clear…the US has never confirmed nor denied that.

    I am not worried about Turkey having access to our nuclear weapons. But if they were there, the questions would be whether we should remove them given current events in Syria, and how would we best remove them?

    I would think that losing such protection as a NATO member would be an issue for Turkey. It would be an issue for the defense of Europe as well.

  58. jerry 2019-10-15 08:09

    Turkey purchased Russian made missiles instead of Patriot missiles. The US was mad and told them they could not play with the new planes we have. Turkey purchased those missiles anyway. Now Turkey has 50 nukes to play with. Irony is that the United States just armed a Muslim country with nuclear bombs. I’m pretty sure Israel is not to pleased about that, but what the hell, it’s all about the benjamin’s and trump towers Istanbul.

    The European Union has not wanted Turkey to be a member, so they clearly don’t trust the Turks, period. NATO has Turkey as a member for what. If you remember, when Cheney invaded Iraq, Turkey, a NATO member, said Cheney could not use Turkey as a staging area. Nope, Europe is on her own once again and they’re pretty sure about that. The US has kinda given them the cold shoulder with tariffs and bullying.

  59. Robert McTaggart 2019-10-15 12:14

    The speculation is that they are there, and it wouldn’t really surprise me if they were…but I advise an ounce of caution against over-speculation…just in case.

    You don’t have a picture of them, and you haven’t had the professionals inspect them. For all we know there could be advanced missile technologies that are not nuclear based

  60. Debbo 2019-10-15 13:36


    Fiona Hill, a former top White House adviser on Russia, revealed to congressional investigators on Monday that President Donald Trump conducted policy toward Ukraine for his personal benefit, according to a new report from the Washington Post.

    She reportedly said that the president used his attorney Rudy Giuliani to a “run shadow foreign policy in Ukraine that circumvented U.S. officials and career diplomats in order to personally benefit” himself.

    Turns out the “Deep State” is real and Crooked Creep is running it with his pal, Rotten Rudy.

  61. jerry 2019-10-15 15:12

    Yeah doc, for all we know. Russians could now be patrolling where American soldiers were a couple of days ago. Turns out, that’s the case now.

    “Russian units have begun patrolling territory separating Turkish-backed Syrian rebels from the Syrian army around the flashpoint town of Manbij in north-east Syria, in a clear sign that Moscow has become the de facto power broker in the region after the evacuation of US troops.

    Oleg Blokhin, a Russian journalist usually attached to mercenaries in Syria, posted a video on social media on Tuesday from a deserted US military base in the village of al-Saadiya, near Manbij.

    “They [the US] were here yesterday, we are here today,” he said. “Now we’ll see how they were living and what they were doing.””

    Looks like the Kurds may have finally found someone they can trust. Wonder how many rooms Chubby has sold at his ivory towers in Istanbul. Blood on your hands is now as simple to wash off as room service. We lost some brave soldiers there on that border. Some killed and some wounded badly just so Chubby could sell rooms at his ivory tower in Istanbul. Wonder if EB5 Rounds was the concierge at the counter with Stretch as the luggage handler.

  62. Debbo 2019-10-15 16:42

    City Pages is a Minneapolis weekly print that updates online daily. It has this great article about extremely lame attempts by trumpelstilskins to lie their a$$es off about Mangled Mango’s rally in Mpls earlier this week. There is no paywall and it’s really funny. To be sure, none of these were initiated by the Inept Idiot’s deministration, however, he did retweet some.

  63. Debbo 2019-10-15 16:47

    Jerry, your last paragraph is worth rereading as a searing indictment of the real cost, in American life and limb and mind, of the insane monster the GOP is protecting in the White House. 🤬🤬🤬

    “Looks like the Kurds may have finally found someone they can trust. Wonder how many rooms Chubby has sold at his ivory towers in Istanbul. Blood on your hands is now as simple to wash off as room service. We lost some brave soldiers there on that border. Some killed and some wounded badly just so Chubby could sell rooms at his ivory tower in Istanbul. Wonder if EB5 Rounds was the concierge at the counter with Stretch as the luggage handler.”

    No, they have no decency. None at all.

  64. Porter Lansing 2019-10-15 16:56

    WHY? Debbo told us about hemp lumber.
    ~ The Trump administration Tuesday proposed allowing logging on more than half of Alaska’s 16.7 million-acre Tongass National Forest, the largest intact temperate rainforest in North America. These pristine lands are critical to protecting the region’s lucrative salmon fishery and tourism operations.

  65. Debbo 2019-10-15 17:19

    97% of college Democrats support impeaching the Mofo. 76% of Independents do. Only 22% of those poor, deluded GOP kids do. 😥

  66. jerry 2019-10-15 21:38

    Remove Chubby and the fraud Peter Navarro. Just think South Dakota farmers and ranchers, your livlihood is dependent on a fraud who used his alter ego to wedge his way into Chubby’s inner circle. Navarro knows about as much about economics as Chubby does. You can tell by the way it is going that bankruptcy is the only thing each of them understand.

  67. Debbo 2019-10-15 22:39

    The paywalled Strib keeps us updated on today’s testimony here:

    Career State Department official George Kent described the results of a May 23 meeting at the White House, organized by Trump’s acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, where three administration officials — U.S. ambassador Gordon Sondland, special envoy Kurt Volker and Energy Secretary Rick Perry — declared themselves the people now responsible for Ukraine policy.

    “They called themselves the three amigos,” Connolly said Kent testified, and they said as much to Zelenskiy in Ukraine when they visited.

    Madam Speaker Pelosi notes that “All roads seem to lead to Putin with the president.”

    Michael McKinley, a former top aide to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo who resigned last week, is scheduled to testify Wednesday. McKinley, a career foreign service officer and Pompeo’s de facto chief of staff, resigned Friday, ending a 37-year career.

    The plot thickens, the case builds and Pootie’s Puppet is dangling with the rope fraying fast.

  68. Debbo 2019-10-16 16:02

    What? Liar-in-Chief lied?!? Again? And again and again and again and again and again and again and again ……..

  69. Debbo 2019-10-20 12:24

    The Minneapolis Star Tribune just released a new poll of all Minnesotans.
    52% feel the impeachment inquiry is a serious matter.
    43% believe it is partisan politics

    Economic Oaf’s job approval rating is 40% approve, 56% disapprove

    Impeachment support is evenly divided, 47% for, 48% opposed

    35% of Minnesotans think Liar-in-Chief is honest, 61% know he rarely is

    56% know he abuses his power, 38% don’t think he does

    On the 1st 3 questions the usual metro/rural split holds. Independents support impeachment and disapprove of his job. 18-34, 35-39, 65+ year old similarly support impeachment and disapproval of his job. 50-64 year olds are outliers.

    All categories know he’s a liar and abuses the power of the office, except the poor, befuddled, emotionally and mentally compromised GOP. Sad, very sad.

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