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Conservative Radio Talker and Liberal Legislative Candidate Find Common Ground on HB 1008

Glen Woods, host of the conservative Bold Republic radio program, interviewed me on February 19 about House Bill 1008, the costly and scientifically untenable paranoid potty bill that we’re hoping Governor Dennis Daugaard will veto today. Here’s the audio of our conversation:

Notice how “stinking capitalist” and a “liberal socialist” can have a civil conversation and find points of agreement (like the sloppy language of HB 1008 and perhaps the preferability of real local control) about public policy.

Stay tuned for the Governor’s decision today.

Update 12:27 CST: Following up on Woods’s question about how many transgender kids are in South Dakota, Libby Skarin of ACLU South Dakota tweets this graphic from the Williams Institute at the UCLA School of Law, which guesstimates there may be 1,360 transgender teens in our fair state. Fair… as in treating all South Dakotans fairly.

Trans youth SD


  1. Steve Sibson 2016-03-01 13:44

    “there may be 1,360 transgender teens”

    How many sex offenders are there in South Dakota?

  2. Jenny 2016-03-01 13:59

    Sibby, Jesus said to love everyone.
    Do not be afraid of transgenders just b/c they look different. This legislature is fearful of a very small group of folks that just want to be left alone. The transgenders are not sex offenders, they are human just like you and I. Fear, ignorance, and paranoia is what this bill is and it is just so wrong that the party that claims to be pro-life are treating a group that has never bother anyone.
    I’m pretty sure Jesus wouldn’t have minded sharing the toilet with transgenders.

  3. Madman 2016-03-01 14:00

    @ Steve, approximately 3235 of which none are transgender people.

    Do you also believe that we should have a bathroom bill based on religion? I don’t want any of those other religions infringing on my child’s bathroom time, because we are already affiliated with a church. Maybe we should have bathrooms based on custodial staff as I don’t want the school janitor to have access to that bathroom if they are of the opposite sex.

    If any of these arguments seem silly, ridiculous, or stupid, then you know how I feel about hearing about the danger transgender people are.

    Does this conversation make people uncomfortable, sure it does, and it should. We need to discuss things and reassure people that you can’t catch this, you can use the same drinking fountain, sit at the same lunch counter, and transgender people don’t have to sit in the back of the bus.

  4. Jenny 2016-03-01 14:04

    Honestly, South Dakotans are such an odd group. Even the biggest bullies I had to go to school with didn’t gawk at my privates while I was changing in the locker room in my redneck SD school. Is this what SD students do now?
    It is kind of a universal rule isn’t it, that people just respect each other and do their business in the restroom.

  5. Jake Cummings 2016-03-01 15:10

    Steve, at least one convicted and imprisoned sex offender is a former legislator. Is your new crusade to protect us against Klaudtian policymakers?

  6. MC 2016-03-01 15:18

    Can we veto this bill already? Even as a conservative I believe this bill should booted. Yes boys should boys should shower with boys and girls with girls. anything else should be dealt with at local level.

  7. leslie 2016-03-01 15:23

    cory, I agree w/ u but u may misread excluding adults.

  8. mike from iowa 2016-03-01 15:32

    How many flaming nut jobs like Sibby are there in South Dakota? They are the dangerous to society thugs that need to be dealt with.

  9. Roger Cornelius 2016-03-01 21:18

    What Sibson needs to understand is that there are sexual predators in any class or group of people.

  10. caheidelberger Post author | 2016-03-01 22:10

    (Jerry, patience—that’s for tomorrow’s blog cycle. The Legislature and the Governor made the big news today.)

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