South Dakota Law Review has done the state a great historical service by publishing ten articles from key players on the impeachment of Joseph Boever’s killer, Jason Ravnsborg. While I wait for my copy from Hein Online, we can read Senate President Pro Tempore Lee Schoenbeck’s (R-5/Lake Kampeska) online at KXLG.
Schoenbeck, who delivered the most impassioned speech condemning Ravnsborg from the floor of the Senate at his trial last June 21, writes with the primary goals of providing “a historical account of events surrounding South Dakota’s first impeachment trial” and offering an impeachment guide to other states (“hopefully not South Dakota again”, Schoenbeck writes in parentheses). However, Schoenbeck takes a couple of pages to address what he calls the “overwhelming evidence” that Ravnsborg was guilty not just of impeachable offenses but, as Secretary of Public Safety Craig Price argued shortly after Ravnsborg’s plea to misdemeanor traffic violations, of second-degree manslaughter:
The Attorney General of South Dakota was speeding down the shoulder of a highway, at night, accelerating beyond the legal speed limit, and ran down a pedestrian walking along the edge of the shoulder—carrying a flashlight. The victim’s head came through the Attorney General’s windshield and rode there—almost within reach of the Attorney General—for several seconds.
The Attorney General then did not stop. He slowed, eventually decided to stop, saw the dead body, and made the conscious decision to call 911 and lie about the events that had just transpired [Sen. Lee Schoenbeck, “A South Dakota First: The Impeachment Conviction of Attorney General Jason Ravnsborg,” South Dakota Law Review, v. 68, no. 2, 2023, p. 253].
Schoenbeck cites the forensic evidence to which I now always refer when referring to Ravnsborg as a killer, the observations from North Dakota Bureau of Criminal Investigation Special Agent Arnie Rummel on Ravnsborg’s unusually slow stop after the fatal crash:
While the perception–reaction time to stop the Attorney General’s vehicle was less than four seconds, he continued to drive, slow down, and drive for eighteen seconds as he contemplated his next move.
A normal person would have panic-braked when the head came through their windshield and stopped within 160 feet. The Attorney General did not stop until he travelled 614 feet from impact.
The Attorney General took his phone with him and walked to the dead body along the road. The Attorney General called 911 and lied that he hit something “in the middle of the road” [Schoenbeck, 2023, p. 254].
Schoenbeck notes with disdain that the House leadership, with whose whackadoodles he has often sparred, ignored the unrefuted forensic evidence and criticized the cops who investigated Ravnsborg’s crash:
The science of accident reconstruction is well developed. This particular accident was investigated and studied thoroughly. No facts were in doubt. The Select Committee’s report had grossly misrepresented the objective facts law enforcement and the investigating agencies had reported [Schoenbeck, 2023, p. 254].
Schoenbeck was aware of the crime Ravnsborg committed before almost anyone else in South Dakota—he drove by the crime scene the morning after the crash, saw the blood on the road, and got details from his friend Nick Nemec, the cousin of the man Ravnsborg killed:
South Dakota is a small state, just one big community. On Sunday morning, September 13, my wife and I were driving separate vehicles to the Black Hills when we saw law enforcement controlling traffic just outside Highmore. We saw the two disabled vehicles, noticed blood that we though was from a deer strike, and drove on.
That afternoon a political friend called and said that he just heard that the Attorney General had been in an accident near Highmore the night before and that there was a death. I told him we had driven by the scene and that I knew how to find out the details. In Highmore, after Sunday mass, the community gathers in the old church for a brunch. I called my friend that belongs to the local parish, Nick Nemec, and asked him about it. After a little background on the night and day’s activities, Nick ended it with: “I think the Attorney General may have killed my cousin, Joe Boever!” An hour later Nick got the call to identify the body [Schoenbeck, 2023, p. 236].
Schoenbeck provides a few other first-person details of historical interest. He writes that he called the criminal prosecutor, Hyde County Deputy State’s Attorney and law school classmate Ravnsborg Emily Sovell in January 2022 to get an estimate of when the criminal trial might happen. Schoenbeck says Sovell was “friendly but clearly distraught about the attention and demands of the high-profile case that had fallen on her plate.” He does not explain or comment on Sovell’s decision not to charge Ravnsborg with manslaughter; however, he notes that “there was a falling out within the prosecution team about the direction charges were going” and that Pennington County State’s Attorney Mark Vargo withdrew from that team. Schoenbeck chose Vargo to prosecute the Senate impeachment trial due to the knowledge of the case he gained while working with Sovell. Schoenbeck notes that Vargo asked Schoenbeck to pick Clay County State’s Attorney Alexis Tracy as co-prosecutor.
Schoenbeck reveals that he offered Ravnsborg a way out the week after Sovell filed the three misdemeanor charges on February 18, 2021:
During the following week, Representative Will Mortenson, an up-and-coming young House member in whose district the death occurred, attempted to negotiate a process for addressing the impeachment issue. Discussions were also had between me, the Governor’s Chief of Staff [Tony Venhuizen], and the Director of the Attorney General’s Division of Criminal Investigations [David Natvig] to see if a smooth resignation and transition process was a possibility. The discussions were unsuccessful [Schoenbeck, 2023, p. 238].
Schoenbeck notes that, in the weeks prior to the trial, Ravnsborg’s defense counsel “inquired about the possibility of the disposition of the articles of impeachment by some form of an agreement before trial.” Ravnsborg should have taken the deal Schoenbeck offered back in February 2021; Schoenbeck makes clear that once the House impeached Ravnsborg, “absent the elected official admitting to the charges and accepting the removal and ban from holding public office,” there was no way for the Senate not to hold its trial. Whatever deal Ravnsborg may have sought in those weeks before the trial, Ravnsborg wasn’t offering to admit his guilt and resign, and Schoenbeck wasn’t going to settle for anything less.
In terms of guidance for impeachments, Schoenbeck notes that the South Dakota Constitution lays out very few rules for impeachment. Schoenbeck likes it that way and worked with Senator David Wheeler (R-22/Huron) to produce minimal rules for the Ravnsborg impeachment. Schoenbeck says at the end of his essay that keeping the rules simple reduces “the opportunity to distract from the responsibility at hand,” but his earlier commentary indicates he wanted to keep the rules minimal to preserve the autonomy of the Senate that he controls and insulate the verdict he wanted from judicial appeal:
In reviewing South Dakota’s minimal requirement, and especially when weighed against the substantial procedures many states have, I concluded early on that our state would be best served with the fewest rules and restrictions possible. The necessary requirements appeared to be a public trial, an opportunity to be heard, and the ability to challenge the evidence. Adding additional rules and procedures, like the burden of proof issue discussed immediately below, encourages, or may create the opportunity for, appellate review (an impeached official asking, “Were the standards followed?). Unless bobbled by the rule creation process, the resolution of an impeachment trail is solely the purview of the South Dakota Senate [Schoenbeck, 2023, p. 241].
Refreshingly, Schoenbeck advises other states that impeachments must be conducted “in full sunlight”:
At every step, the more the information and processes are public, the better the end product. The public has to know what is happening with their elected officials, especially when the serious allegations of an impeachment are involved. There will be less doubt and misunderstanding of the end result and more respect for the integrity of the process if it is conducted in full sunlight [Schoenbeck, 2023, p. 255].
Mentioned but not fleshed out in Schoenbeck’s essay is the political football that the Governor and House Republican leaders played with Ravnsborg’s impeachment. When I receive my copy of the full South Dakota Law Review impeachment volume, I hope the other authors will shed some light on the impact of that politicking on the process. Schoenbeck simply emphasizes that he designed the Senate’s approach to impeachment, with bare-bones rules and full openness that politicking and simply do justice by removing a killer Attorney General.
Batten the hatches, the Kurt Evans blizzard of baloney is rumbling your way. Too bad they admit the truth long after it is too late..
“blizzard of bologna”? Good one, Amigo. 😃
How can he claim it was Manslaughter when the LAW does not even define what happened as Manslaughter, this whole impeachment thing was 100% Political due to the nature of how former Attorney General Jason Ravsnborg was going after the establishment of career politicians, mainly holding Noem accountable, let alone spearing a head on witch hunt on Child and Drug Trafficking that was leading to citing many State elected and appointed officials. It also seems odd, how Lee Schoenbeck chose his friend Mr. Vargo to be the lead prosecutor of the Impeachment, making it apear more political that he would be rewarded to be temporarily placed as Attorney General.
Many people have attacked the former Attorney General, but in reality, he was one of the most Constitutional Attorney General’s we have had in recent years, and was leading many cases against the Federal Government, Joe Biden, let alone holding many State Officials accountable. That was his main job, and why the Attorney General is elected by the people, and not appointed by the Governor.
The whole public matter involving the Vehicle Accident was a sad one, especially cause someone lost their life in the accident, however, there could be NO case of Manslaughter charged under the law, cause the LAW itself defines Manslaughter as a case where ‘someone’ intentionally seeked out, and established a motive to kill another person. Emily Sovell was correct on that point…
It could not also be Vehicular Homicide, since there was no proof, nor evidence, nor witnesses coming forward to claim they saw the Attorney General drinkig Alcohol, nor using Drugs, and even if there was no breathlyzer taken place the same night, alcohol still shows up the next day, so they would be able to confirm whether or not he had been drinking. NO EVIDENCE, NO WITNESSES, you have no case for Vehicular Homicide, very hard to prove otherwise.
And finally, some have said this was 2nd Degree Manslaughter, but under S.D LAW – the people have NOT given direction to the STATE to prosecute in such situation where there can be NO EVIDENCE the “Driver” was driving recklessly, speeding, nor in a dangerous manner. With no Witness, nor evidence, you got no case, again, Emily Sovell was correct, she could NOT bring forth any such case for such.
That left the three Misdemeanors – Driving outside the Driving Lane, Using Mobile Device, and Careless Driving.
While many of you are upset that the Former Attorney General would NOT admit any Guilt, nor plead Guilty before the Court, HOW many of you would admit any guilt when involved in a traffic accident? None of you would, in fact, your Insurance Company even tells you say nothing, plead the 5th, and admit to nothing prior a jury trial – this helps protect your innocence in any such charges that may be filed. So how could he admit guilt, despite showing remorse before a trial, let alone before the Impeachment if he truly believed it was an accident?
We all have accidents at some point in our lives, do you want the public to outright accuse you of a crimes before a jury trial?
Sadly, now, all Legislators now will be held for having an ACCIDENT which leads to misdemeanors, now allowing Democrats and Republican parties to make political witch hunts of those who may now not be part of their agenda, so now here we are today.
Should any elected official be removed from office because they had an accident? No – they should be allowed to finish their term, and you let the voters decide their fate during an election year…But then again, we live today in this high speed of social media drama, where people make allegations against anyone they dislike, or hate, just to remove them from office, regardless of the facts, evidence, or lack of.
These types of accidents occur every week, as we see and hear in the news media daily – until now, no one ever lost their job because of an accident, nor has anyone ever gone to prison for where someone dies in an auto accident, it is merely an “Insurance Matter” to recover damages, of which are paid by the person who is found to be more than slightly responsible for the accident.
There, I said it, in the most honest, sincere, respectful way I know how. Now I will sit back and watch how some of you will attack me, my beliefs, and call me names cause I may not think like you, the typical democrat way, attack those who think different then them.
Now Mr. Zitterich is a constitutional lawyer.
Mr. Z, if you run for the legislature from your district as an unaffiliated candidate I will send you some money.
Actually, Mr. Zitterich- you’re accusations are false. I WOULD admit wrongdoing in an accident and HAVE before. Because not everyone is a complete poosy. And honor is something I will die before ever destroying.
Why has it become such a love, hate fest on social media these days, why have people become so negative in their ways, that they feel the need to attack people, call people names, abuse people all cause they have a difference of opinion?
It is very sad.
You all voice your opinions, your thouhts, and I respond by not calling you insults, personal attacks, nor names, I simply explain myself, in ways to help people understand what I believe, and my viewpoint of the situation(s). IF we cannot go one day without fighting, what then is the purpose of living, if we must always live in fear of being ridiculed.
“And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.” Hebrews 10: 24-25, and furthermore, “Each of us should please our neighbors for their good, to build them up.” Romans 15: 2
John Thomas Flynn, 1944
“And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, Get back to us when you rejoin the real world, the none where derumpf did not win 2020 election, nolr was he cheated by voter fraud. The vast majority of fraud was committed by fraudulent kristian magats who believe every thing drumpf tells them. and it has been documented.
The Democrats do not want to investigate our election process for fraud and abuse cause deep down, they know they have been playing games, manipulating the ballots themselves, same with the Established Republican party folk as well, both parties have known for years they have been gerrymandering, manipulating ballots, and stealing votes for decades, and if “WE THE PEOPLE” actually cared to and actually did Investigate the Process of Electing our President, Governor Legislators, Congressman, Mayors, City Concils’ they know ‘we’ would discover the fraud, misconception and abuse within the party systems. The parties have been manipulating our election systems since 1830,. The democrats have been doing this since they discovered how to buy, steal votes in 1940 with the infamous BLACK BOX of which helped Lyndon Johnson get elected to the Senate…This is not a democrat or republican issue, this is an issue that “WE” Americans have to fix at some point in the future. The Democrats were pissed that they won the popular vote in 2016, claiming voter fraud against Trump, and the same was true in 2000 between Bush v Gore – why did the Democrats drop their demands for investigations? Cause they know they cheat or steal votes for decades, and the truth would have came out in any such investigation. We have known for years that ABSENTEE BALLOTS, let alone those so called MAIL BALLOTS in specific states have been manipulated for years, and now that the AMericans are steadfast on the same page on getting to the bottom of all this, both parties, now want call Americans idiots for wanting to investigate.
People like myself, have said all along if BIDEN truly and honestly won the 2020 election, why are you Democrats so afraid to investigate? What do you have to fear if you claim there is no fraud, the investigation would show there was no fraud. 55% of the American People now beleive there was huge sums of voter fraud, and what are you going to do about it?
I am very tired of you Democrats claiming Republicans gerrymander districts, just as much as I am tired of Republicans saying that MAIL BALLOTS were manipulated to change the results of the election, then they both have NO GUTS to investigate each other. That shows me that they are both ONE PARTY, ONE SYSTEM< and both want to hide the true facts.
"WE" all know why Democrats want mass Immigration into the Country, even illegal immigration – cause they cand in blue states give each of them DRIVER LICENSES, a residency status, and without being a citizen, they will be alllowed in those states to obtain a BALLOT. That is fraud right there, but unless 'we' investigate, we will never get to resolve the conflict.
I have been one of the most respectful Republicans speaking on the 2020 Election, ALL I have asked for was a S.D PUBLIC HEARING of the Legislature to discuss ALL aspects of the Electoral Process:
a) Audit, Inspect DOMICILES to confirm their identity,
b) Audit, Inspect the MASTER VOTER FILE to confirm that only Domiciled Citizens are Registered Vorters;
c) Audit, inspect 2018, 2020, 2022 BALLOTS and SIGN IN LISTS, to ensure that only Registered Voters Voted;
d) Perform an Actual Hand Count of All Ballots to ensure that the proper result was recorded:
e) Subpeona the Secretary of State Office, Officials, Officers, County Auditors, Staffs to ask questions on how they conducted the elections;
f) Subpoena all DOMICILED CITIZENS of S.D who have a residency in Arizona, California, Texas, Florida, etc to ensure that their names are NOT on any Foreign States' Master Voter File, let alone had not participated in any Election in those "States" to confirm people are NOT voting twice, nor voting unlawfully.
THat is all I ask for, IF, and when it is found, that there is NO FRAUD< then I will confirm, that BIDEN won fair and square, BUT until then, NO, I will not accept the result of the 2020 elections…
Mike Zitterich, you already covered this phenomenon of super-legal vehicular homicide in your other comment manifesto a couple of weeks ago. It’s right there in the body of text between your preamble and your car shop ad. Feel free to run me over for posting this comment, that is if you can find someone to deputize you first.
Brady Folkens of Brookings died in state custody after a botched diagnosis at the former State Treatment and Rehabilitation (STAR) Academy in a county named for a war criminal on December 21, 2013 then the State of South Dakota’s Office of Risk Management and Republican Avera lawyer, then-Lt. Governor Matt Michels helped to bury the evidence of negligent homicide perhaps even manslaughter.
After a public outcry the death camp was shuttered and the sprawling property put up for auction. The stigmatized site was recently sold for a fourth time at a substantially reduced price.
The state has a history of poor choices made by state employees. Fourteen year old Gina Score died after a forced run in 1999 then the state settled with Score’s family for just over a $million without accepting guilt for her death.
A cynical observer might see Republican former South Dakota Governor Denny Daugaard’s decision to close two state-owned boot camps as a vehicle to drive kids into the clutches of the Children’s Home Society where he enjoys a financial interest.
No doubt Republican former Attorney General Jason Ravnsborg provided similar cover.
Reservation border towns like Sioux Falls and Rapid City are still influenced by the Klan, John Birch Society, the TEA movement and now by the extreme white wing of the Republican Party. Recall the Birch Society billboards along I-90 across South Dakota that urged voters to get US out of the United Nations, pray to end abortion and how close travelers are to Wall Drug.
Well, Chris, if that is how you truly feel, I feel sorry for you, cause you are truly a confused, and conflicted person. For one, No one, no driver honestly, nor intentionally drives on a public highway, street, or road anywhere in South Dakota with a direct purpose of running someone over. The Media over-played the entire story. You cannot tell, nor can anyone ever know what is going on in the state of mind of a particular person, and why things occur as they do. Whether it was Mr Boever, or Mr Ravsnborg, both men did things that day, that I can only presume, they wish they did differently that day. Did Mr Boever mean to drive his vehicle off the road and hit a haybarrel that day, did Mr Ravnsborg mean to driving down the highway that fateful night, while listening to, or viewing a website on his cell phone prior to reaching Highmore…”WE” all have done things we wish we had done different from time to time. As a christian, I cannot judge no one, for their actions that day, for I have no knowledge of the facts, nor what they were feeling that day.. God knows the truth, and only God make that final judgement.
So what does Chris do in response, cause he cannot debate me on the facts, nor the truth, he has to go on to try to demonize me, and claim I recklessly drive on the roadways, well, Chris, I can respectively say, I have had 2 accidents in my life time, one in 1996, and one in 1998. More than 25 years ago, not once have I had a speeding ticket, nor have I ever been pulled over for any other infraction. So you have just committed liable against me, and totally misrepresented everything I said bove, then you attack my small business for some reason, all cause you have to act all hot and bothered cause someone does not talk the way he wants him to, or say things as he wants him to. You have some nerve…
Why is it, i can speak, or write in a respectful tone, manner, without the insults, nor personal attacks, I use my full legal name so you can find me, if you want to know more, or want to meet and have a discussion outside this chat. You on the other hand, use a fake name, let alone
Listen folks, I know its hard for you to seek the truth, the facts, and you want to believe your government is honest, but guess what, your own government lied about the Kennedy Assassination when it played a role in the event in 1963, killing off the head of the government, guess what, if that government lied then, it can lie again. Did they? They came back nearly 60 years later removing another head of government during the 2020 election, this time not by assassination, but by manipulating the ballots so massively, during a Pandemic, they were easily allowed to hide in plain site, that a great manipulation was done right before our very eyes. “WE” discovered the truth years after 1963, ‘we’ will learn of, and discover the truth in the distant future about what happened in 2020. You see, when people know the truth, the people in high places will do what they have to, to keep the facts, the evidence, and the truth covered up. IF people are willing to expose that truth, they will be removed from office, let alone society. Be careful what you wish for, cause well, history always seems to repeat itself, when you let your head down, and become complacent.
Mike, “we” sure know a lot more than I think I did.
In 1980 Mitch McConnell ditched his feminist first wife vowing to marry a rich woman and now he is one of the wealthiest white men in Congress while Kentucky remains one of the poorest states. He not only loathes Donald Trump, he detests Alabama’s Roy Moore, too.
Lee Atwater is one of the architects of the Southern Strategy that brought the Dixie crackers into the Republican Party. Newt Gingrich authored the earth haters’ handbook and it’s still the official little red book of the Greedy Old Party.
It’s becoming increasingly apparent that Republicans are suffering from mass clinical depression comorbid with suicide ideation. Recall Herr Trump told Republicans to shoot up bleach and quaternary ammonia then look at the sun for an hour or so to kill Covid-19. Every single Republican should still do that then they should just eat each other. Trump makes Jim Jones look like humanity’s savior.
Mr. Zitterrich. You called Chris confused, conflicted, a demon, and a liabilist.
That makes you a liar when you assert that you speak and write in a respectful tone, manner, without the insults, nor personal attacks.
Got another lying assertion? Hmmmmm?
Over a million Americans died from the Trump Virus so he should be tried for crimes against humanity especially for slow-walking resources to reservations effectively deploying COVID as a biological weapon in Native America. But the good news? Trump killed far more Republicans than Democrats.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w30512
Is Mr. Zitterich and Mr. Evans the same person? Mr. onion’s comment #1 was exactly what popped into grudznick’s noggin, even down to the batten the hatches part, as I read your blogging. I just did not know Mr. Zitterich would throw a bunch of pages from his manifesto out here for you all to enjoy.
No doubt Mr. Schoenbeck has forwarded his legal brief to Mr. Ravnsborg’s Army Reserve commander who could order a court martial.
I wonder if Mr. Goss’s Army Reserve commander is paying attention to these dealings.
I wonder if an act of God will kill 239 people in Rapid City.
I never called Chris a demon. Where did that cone from…i said he demonized me…
$20 says a court martial would cause Mr. Ravnsborg to self-terminate.
here you go Mike:
[…You basically be excused of Homicide in cases of where someone attempts to break into your home, property, or from attacking you, where your life is threatened, you may have the right to shoot the person in order to detour them from committing a crime; let alone, where it is justified where a Law Enforcement Officer (Governor, Sheriff, Mayor, Local Police, etc) deputize you, giving you the lawful right to help law enforcement in capturing criminals, or of protecting the peace; and finally, you may be excused from Homicide where you are involved in a Vehicle Accident, of which a person(s) dies as a result of the accident, except for where you are found to be under the influence of Alcohol, Drugs, or Both. …]
https://dakotafreepress.com/2023/05/12/freedom-caucus-rolls-goss-into-vast-conspiracy-against-free-speech-ignores-leah-andersons-war-on-petitioners/
Back to the point: in addition to underscoring the sense that Ravnsborg law school chum Sovell let him off easy with no charges for actually causing the death of another human being (not terribly pro-life, making those excuses for the killing of Joe Boever, are you, Mike?), Schoenbeck provides some interesting observations about how keeping the rules to a minimum minimized the tricks Ravnsborg could have pulled to escape justice.
So, Mike, do you consider Schoenbeck’s analysis and conduct of the impeachment process flawed?
The Democrats do not want to investigate our election process for fraud and abuse cause deep down, they know they have been playing games, manipulating the ballots themselves,
The troll is full of more skit than every X-Mas turkey ever slaughtered for the feast.
I am not a fan of Mr. Schoebeck, he’s to liberal for me. It was to political which was how he formated his assessment. Again, I explained myself in a very respectful manner and Larry confirmed I was correct. You committed no felony nor crime where your involved in am accident and someone died. The law protects YOU in that situation, unless your drinking alcohol or smoking pot.
The whole situation was made political csuse the person who died was tge brother of a big time Democrat supporter and convinced Mr Schoenbeck, an ex Daschle ally. They made it way to political for what it truly was.
It was a every common accident no different than any accident that caused a death of another. When have we ever penalized for their role in an accident where someone died? Hardly ever.
So why impeach someone for a common accident that happens atleast 15 times a year.?
Your setting a dangerous precedent…
Yes. It was all political cause the former A.G was making some noise against the establishment…and you hated that?
And yes, Democrats have called for election audits for many years always when they lose. So don’t go there..
Now, again, I was respectful in my comments. Very professional.
Corey, since your being respectful.
Read some of my articles on my site SIOUX FALLS COMMUNITY CHRONICLE and letd work together. Ty
I think Mike is trying to start his own blog over the top of yours, Cory.
I am no fan of Mr. Schoenbeck because he helped to cover up catholic crimes against children and vulnerable adults but hey: the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Mike Z, Since when did Ravnsborg show remorse for the killing of Joe Boever? That last minute desperate letter he sent the legislature the night before the House impeached him? Because he sure didn’t speak to any family members apologizing for his reckless actions.
Driving on the shoulder and killing a pedestrian is reckless driving. Sovell screwed up big time and Ravnsborg most likely regrets that he didn’t just choose to resign since he is now forever banned from public office in SD. His large ego got the best of him.
Public officials are always held to a higher standard as they should be.
But he isnt very good at it. Too impatient. Clearly not interested in influencing, just barfing pages of info, or as Grudz put it, his manifesto.
I do appreciate some contrarian perspectives, mike, but you influence through thought provoking back and forth, takes patience. Hang in there buddy, you’ll improve. If you havent noticed, we are ttying to help you
Well, Mike Z, there are accidents and then there are “accidents.” I’m thinking that intentional inattentive driving is a behavior that bends any “accident” that occurs toward negligence. It’s along the lines of intentional and speeding or pot smoking or alcohol consumption while driving. In my mind, if someone is killed by such willful and negligent acts, they could be charged with manslaughter. Of course, I’m not a prosecutor and have no experience in these matters. But that makes my opinion on par with yours. And I’ve stated it in far, far fewer words.
Mr. Zitterich, you are indeed a respectful fellow, but you need to tighten your bloggings up.
grudznick would agree with you that Mr. Schoenbeck is a bit of a liberal and pigheaded on some issues, but he’s not insaner than most. So he has that going for him.
I have met Jason Ravsnborg a few times, and he does seem like a genuine person, and the fact that he took the time to drive from town to town to meet directly with the citizens, means he loved the job of representing the people of state. You could tell that the accident played a heavy burden on him, and he did speak to his closest friends about how he was remorseful. People who got to meet him know this, so whatever they say in the media, or by those career politicians is not true, nor the real story. He was a very nice, sincere person, and very respectful of the citizens time, and effort. When I had my two accidents back in the 90’s I never admitted guilt either, you cant, you want to get the best outcome possible in a court of law where you may or may not be found responsible for the damages, his goal was to make it appear as a 50-50 accident where both men were slightly at fault, which means it was a no fault situation, and both sides pay for their own damages. Just as any other accident.
And no, i am not trying to steal Corey’s followers to my website, it is not a forum as this, I do not allow comments on my articles. I simply write stories, our history, and help educate and inform people of who and what the State of South Dakota is, and my city.
It would mean a lot to work side by side with Corey to help become informants helping people understand how we govern the state.
I have built up my own following, and that is what matters, and from there ‘we’ create public discussion. Stay tune, I am preparing to discuss the City Charter as the C.R.C meets in August to December about City Government.
Donald,
There is no negligent homicide in South Dakota, you could not have used that in a S.D Court of law. It was either an accident, or an intent to harm, and it was definately NOT an intent to harm. he was not acting in a neglectful manner. It was no different than if you took your eyes off the road to tune you radio, or change the CD in your radio player…crap happens.
Joe Boever paid for it with his life. I mean, honestly, Mike Z? “Where both men are slightly at fault”, ‘both sides pay for their own damages’
Ravnsborg most certainly did love his job. It was the first thing that came out of his mouth whenever he was picked up for speeding – ‘I’m the AG!’
LOL – Schoenbeck is no liberal, he’s anti-transgender, and anti-women’s right to choose. He is not a MAGAT if that is what you mean.
What? You have a website, Mr. Zitterich? No way…
Ms. Jenny, grudznick finds zero inaccuracies in your blogging at 22:11 on 2023-06-05. You are spot on. And Mr. Schoenbeck might be a little right of your typical Conservative with Common Sense, but he is certainly not a true libbie. Nor is he what the out-of-state name-callers on Mr. H’s blog call a MAGAT.
Which proves that not all Republicans are what the out-of-state name-callers claim. Some may actually be drag queens and such…I expect we’d all be surprised if that information was made public.
All has been said, but not everyone has said it. Now I have said it. Mike, I see why you are here; the guys at the Vets’ Club will no longer sit with you. Good God! You are a bore.
All my beliefs can be found here…
http://www.siouxfallscommunitychronicle.com
I am not hiding who i am nor what I say. I am very well respected for how I engage with people, helping to educate abs inform peoppe. I encourage debate
I encourage more people like Corey t9 create their own sites…
Stay tune, I am preparing to discuss the City Charter as the C.R.C meets in August to December about City Government.
Thanks for ther headsup. I think I will buy some curtains that day.
Schoenbeck is surely going to be wanting to be the nxt governor, or Helene