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Nesiba: Transgender Ban Could Deprive Sioux Falls of Amazon Jobs

Senator Reynold Nesiba (D-15/Sioux Falls) warns Governor Kristi Noem’s excitement to sign House Bill 1217 to bully transgender athletes could kick Sioux Falls’s gift horses in the mouth:

On Thursday, March 11, at an end-of-the-session news conference, Sen. Reynold Nesiba, a Sioux Falls Democrat, wondered if not only the city’s investment in attracting collegiate sports championships — such as the recently completed Summit League men’s and women’s basketball tournament — might be damaged as leagues boycott the state over a controversial sports bill, but if broader economic backlash might ensue.

“I’m frankly a little worried about Amazon,” said Nesiba, noting the Seattle-based company, with a track record of supporting LGBTQ rights might, pull out of constructing a fulfillment center proposed to open next year in Sioux Falls that’s expected to bring in 1,000 jobs.

“I’m just worried about our perception, said Nesiba, “because I think, generally, South Dakotans are a welcoming people.”

Representatives for Amazon did not respond to a request for comment from Forum News Service. Nevertheless, Jennie Doyen, a spokeswoman for the Greater Sioux Falls Chamber of Commerce, which has opposed the bill, told FNS that her organization was “very aware of this situation” [Christopher Vondracek, “Lawmaker Worries Amazon May Back Out of Sioux Falls Facility if Gov. Kristi Noem Signs Transgender Athletes Bill,” Forum News Service via Worthington Globe, 2021.03.11].

Amazon, which is named for women warriors who didn’t need big government to protect them as they kicked the crap out of anyone who competed with them, was fussy about local respect for equality in its recent search for a second HQ:

As Amazon executives recently toured finalist locations to help select what they’ve dubbed HQ2, they asked public officials about what sort of “compatible cultural and community environment” — the wording from the company’s search parameters — each city offers, adding to speculation about whether Amazon will choose a liberal stronghold.

In North Carolina, company representatives asked pointed questions of Gov. Roy Cooper (D) about several state policies such as the “bathroom bill,” which restricted the use of public facilities by transgender people, according to a person in the room. In another city, an Amazon executive groaned at the mention of proposed legislation in Georgia that would restrict funding for same-sex adoption, according to another person who attended the meeting between the company and state and local officials [Jonathan O’Connell, “The Unspoken Factor in Amazon’s Search for a New Home: Jeff Bezos’s Support for Gay Rights,” Washington Post, 2018.04.20].

Virginia and New York won the HQ split decision for business and education reasons, but Arlington, Virginia, also holds a perfect score on the Human Rights Campaign’s Municipal Equality Index, and New York offers all sorts of protections for equality.

There’s a difference between choosing corporate offices for the folks at the top of the Amazon chain and stationing warehouses at multiple locations across the country for maximum efficiency. Sioux Falls may still get its Amazon warehouse because geography and cheap labor at the I-29/I-90 junction may trump how vile our Governor can be. But Amazon and other corporations may notice the irresolvable contradiction of a state that shouts “Open for Business!” and “Closed to Certain People!”


  1. Donald Pay 2021-03-13 09:07

    I’ve been boycotting South Dakota for 15 years. I have family there, but I refuse to step foot in the state because of continual jackassery like this bill and similar things going on with the initiative and environmental legislation over that time span. It would be nice if Amazon would put human rights over their bottom line, but I don’t expect them to do that. There’s a lot of history, stretching back to German businesses making a devil’s bargain with the Nazis, that points toward expediency over principles in business. Amazon does have a history of abusing workers, and there’s not a place in the world that protects worker abuse more than South Dakota. So, does Amazon has a choice to make. And so does South Dakota. It’s too bad South Dakota can’t do the right thing just because it’s the right thing.

  2. Jenny 2021-03-13 09:09

    Absolutely, no person that is is discriminated against wants to live in a state where you’re constantly targeted for hate bills. CEOs that are socially aware understand this. Companies want content, healthy workers and the toxic stress of discrimination plays against that.

  3. Bernie 2021-03-13 09:22

    “I’m just worried about our perception, said Nesiba, “because I think, generally, South Dakotans are a welcoming people.”

    I believe Senator Nesiba is right … South Dakotans are a more welcoming people than this particular bill indicates. A poll in our local paper showed the public greatly opposed to the bill.

    I know of a transgender male who was born and lived his entire life in a small town in southeast South Dakota, and transitioned — to everyone’s knowledge — as a teen. I don’t know his whole story, but he was basically well liked and very much appreciated and accepted in the community for his entire life. I heard that he did try to enroll in a state college and was prohibited from doing so unless he quit identifying as a male. He chose not to attend and returned to his small-town.

    I’d like to think that his story would be the same today … but the impact of legislation like this probably makes it more difficult and less likely. It stigmatizes innocent people.

  4. Detroit Lewis 2021-03-13 09:27

    Here’s one to dig around on Cory, over the past week there have been rumors that Amazon is actually scaling back the Sioux Falls warehouse and falling back on the Omaha warehouse to be larger and it has nothing to do with transgender issues. I guess they realized it’s going to be real tough finding 1,000 employees in a market with a 2.8% unemployment rate. Omaha also has a cheaper job market (they can pay less there).

  5. Jenny 2021-03-13 09:46

    As you can see with Donald Pay, boycotting SD is a very real threat. I would caution SD to think twice before passing anymore LGBTQ hate bills. All it takes is Gay friendlyMN to get ticked off enough to start organizing boycotts and The Twin Cities are good at it. Trust me, you dont want that. They don’t like to see their LGBTQ friends discriminated against in SD.

  6. SD is 20 per cent nonwhite 2021-03-13 10:04

    Noem supports bigotry and name calling. (Communists in Georgia?)

    Since she lacks shame or humility and won’t resign and go to a local Bigots Anonymous Meeting, we are left with impeachment and the Democrats right now are too chicken and bi partisan to impeach her.

    We the People can change that!

    Next Consitutional Amendment, limit the Governor and Lt. Governor term to 2 years! So elections every 2 years!

    Let’s pass that!

  7. jake 2021-03-13 10:44

    Worthington, Minnesota-only a few miles further on I-90, will probably be a better choice for Amazon!

  8. grudznick 2021-03-13 15:25

    Mr. Pay, you still grace us with your options even though we don’t have to suffer sharing our beautiful clean air and water with you. More for the rest of us.

  9. Mark Anderson 2021-03-13 15:54

    Grain Belts perfect brewing water must be the attraction grudz. Unless it’s the liberal Minnesotans who make it. I always liked pissing in a South Dakota river. It was best to leave a deposit in Whitewood creek, since nothing grew there, I’m sure it helped the aspens, although I always hoped for gold.

  10. Bob Newland 2021-03-13 16:58

    Donald Pay, I think Qatar probably treats workers more execrably than SoDak. Not that I think SoDak should get a medal for being better than Qatar.

  11. mike from iowa 2021-03-13 18:12

    Like Norhern Mississippi, Qatar has a large US airbase. Qatar is more welcoming of foreign workers, but under one party rule, not as progressive as neighboring states. You aren’t likely apt to find a female head of state in the desert.

  12. jake 2021-03-13 20:17

    Grudzi, while you’re breathing clean air-take a deep breath, and thank the “libbies” as you call them as you ‘try’ to corral their ‘goats’ for giving you clean air to breathe. As you know, , were it up to those of your ilk, that industry would be polluting that air as Mr. Anderson above posing as an avid capitalist Homestake Mining Co polluted at will a gem of the Black Hills, Whitewood Creek and thus the Belle Fourche River for a whole generation. Then, it took socialism, in the form of federal dollars, to clean up the mess left by your conservative minded corporate entity. You, and your type love the Federal hog trough of government $$$!
    creek and r

  13. John Dale 2021-03-13 20:43

    I am in favor of anything that gets Amazon out of South Dakota and allows us to source their functions to our high school grads.

  14. Cody 2021-03-14 06:22

    Donald Pay, You are my hero (100% sincere). I wish that I too could say “I boycott South Dakota”. But I’m stuck here…

    I also tend to agree with virtually every one of your comments throughout this wonderful website.

  15. Jen 2021-03-21 15:32

    This sounds like opinion, not a news article.

  16. Jen 2021-03-21 15:35

    This is a red state with red values. Liberals can move to a blue state of their choice if they want blue values. Everyone should self-sort into red and blue states. I moved here because as a conservative, I didnt fit in NY, so I self-sorted by moving to red SD.

  17. Cody 2021-03-24 16:24

    “This is a red state with red values. Liberals can move to a blue state of their choice if they want blue values. Everyone should self-sort into red and blue states. I moved here because as a conservative, I didnt fit in NY, so I self-sorted by moving to red SD.” Jen

    Spoken like a classic narrow minded philistine

  18. Jen 2021-03-24 16:47

    Personal attack flagged. Again, I am a wide minded philanthropist. And red states for conservatives, blue states for liberals. Everyone can self-sort if they wish, or deal with the states they live in. This is a bright ruby red state. I wouldn’t try to make NY red, that’s why I left there.

  19. Dicta 2021-03-24 16:50

    Beware anyone who is so narcissistic that they refer to themselves as a “wide minded philanthropist.” As to your original point: the problem with people sorting into conservative vs. liberal enclaves is that dissent vanishes and it becomes echo chamber by geography. That isn’t great if the goal is a meritocracy of ideas.

  20. Jen 2021-03-24 16:56

    Personal attack flagged again. It’s better without dissent. I like echo chambers. All my friends and family are either conservative, or blocked. We can have 2 colors, red and blue. The red people can visit the blue areas, and blues can visit reds, if they want, they can vacation in the opposite colors, but then can come home to what they prefer. We can interact in limited doses, then each return to our echo chambers. Everyone is happy, we can get along, without living along. We can be friendly, without being best friends. We can be close yet distant. Like 2 football teams. They can shake hands after the game, but they don’t need to necessarily be the best of friends. 2 teams, 1 league. We each have out own stadium. You can come play as a visitor in ours, and we’ll come play in your stadium. But we’ll each go back to our own houses when the game is over.


  21. Dicta 2021-03-24 17:06

    “It’s better without dissent.” Who are you, Mao? Who thinks like this? What good is an idea that isn’t defended? Be sure to flag this one: you are myopic and dumb.

  22. Dicta 2021-03-24 17:08

    Also, follow up add: this is clearly a liberal website. Since you are conservative, I think it important that you follow your segregation ideal and immediately leave. Wouldn’t want different opinions.

  23. grudznick 2021-03-24 17:44

    Perhaps, Mr. Dicta, there are others like grudznick and on a kind of perpetual vacation. You won’t find me in Iowa, but I might go to Wisconsin. For the food and the New Glaris cow beer, of course, not to sleep on Mr. Pay’s couch again.

  24. Jen 2021-03-24 17:46

    Personal attack flagged again, Mike Ditka. At least spell Ditka properly. And Mike Ditka is very conservative. You are microscopic and dumb, if u wanna go there hahaha. This is not a liberal website. It’s a SD website which means conservative. If it was a Massachusetts website then it would be liberal.

    To continue my sports analogy: When I visit a blue state, I Know I’m the “away” team, or “visiting” team. I am the guest on that side of the fence. When 1 football team plays as a visiting team in another stadium, that visiting team doesn’t instruct the home team what type of food, Beer, Etc., that the vendors should sell in their stadium, or what music they should play in their stadium, etc.. We are simply a guest in their house, and when the game is done, we go home. And vice versa when they come to our stadium to play us.
    I Know, that when we play in the opposing stadium, that 99% of that stadium’s fans will be rooting against us. And that’s fine. I don’t Tell the opposing team’s fans how to root or cheer, when I am playing as a guest on their home field, and I wouldn’t expect them to do that either, when they play on our home field.
    We are both part of the same league, but different conferences. There is AFC, and NFC, for example, in football, or AL, and NL, in baseball. Most games are played in one’s own conference, but there are a few interleague games. The opposing conference is welcome to travel to the other conference’s home team, but they have to play by the home team’s rules, and remember that as the “away” team, they are a guest.

    To wrap up this analogy, even though I am from NY, I realize fully well that when I visit NY, I am the “away” team. I don’t Tell their “home” team what to do, as it’s their stadium, not mine. Blue states for the blueies and red states for the reddies. Each can visit the other, but must remember they are the “away” team when in the other’s stadium, and vice versa. I have in-laws in NY who are libtards. I can visit them, eat dinner with them, maybe even stay for A Minute Or 2, but I don’t want to live with them and neither do they with me. The feeling is mutual. We metaphorically play “baseball” in each other’s stadiums, but then we go back home to our home field when the game is over. We don’t move into the opposite team’s home turf. Self-sorting.

  25. Dicta 2021-03-24 17:58

    “This is not a liberal website. It’s a SD website which means conservative. If it was a Massachusetts website then it would be liberal.”

    Ok, now I call troll.

  26. Jen 2021-03-24 18:10

    Took you long enough! Keep feeding me though, Mike Ditka. LOL!

    But to continue my self-sorting point, I’ll take it a step further. Let the 2 sides be completely different without a squishy middle. I hear some GOP’ers Say “let’s have a 50 state strategy and elect moderate Republicans in places like MA, NJ, etc”. You Know what, let’s not.

    Let the blue states be ultra-left blue, and the reds can be ultra-red, without any moderates on either side. I would rather MA elects a far left liberal than a RINO, because at least the liberal will be honest about being liberal, unlike the RINOS. Keep the red states red, and the blue states blue. No squishy middle, no purple, no moderates, no in-between. Either team A or team B. Either team blue or team red. Bold distinct colors, not pale pastels. As for why I don’t defend my good ideas, I don’t need to. I never claimed conservative ideas are better than liberal ideas or vice versa “in general”. But, FOR CONSERVATIVES, conservative ideas are better. And for liberals, liberal ideas are better. So conservatives can have their conservative way, and liberals can have their liberal way. You play your game, we’ll play ours. IN OUR OWN STADIUMS. Neither is better or worse aggregately, but your way is better for you and our way is better for us. We do our thing, you do your thing. That way we don’t have to debate.
    1 country, 2 teams. Maybe we should even look at a “Visa” system where a reddie needs to get a Visa to visit the blue areas, and vice versa, and Said VISA has a Time-limit, similar to Visas for visiting other countries. I’d be down with that. That way we keep blue areas purely blue and red areas purely red, without too much intermingling or compromise. Blue areas can be ultra extreme liberal, and vice versa for us. That way everyone is happy IN THEIR REGION.
    Self-sort. OK, we’re done here. Bam.

  27. Dicta 2021-03-24 18:13


  28. Cory Allen Heidelberger Post author | 2021-03-24 18:20

    Funny that someone who moved here from elsewhere (thanks for your tax dollars, Jen! Keep ’em coming!) presumes to tell natives to this place that they should leave.

    Hmm, why does that sound familiar….

    But I guess the same spirit could apply to Amazon, with no harm or foul: if Amazon is a liberal corporation, then under no circumstances should it do business in South Dakota, not only because it disagrees with the anti-transgender closedmindedness and bullying of the current political leaders, but because someone has decided that South Dakota belongs exclusively to conservatives and that no one else has a right to live or work here.

  29. Jen 2021-03-24 18:47

    Exactly! Amazon, and Jeff Bozo should stay in blue Seattle! This is red country out here! This is an anti-trans red state. Not exactly a huge revelation there. Red states for reddies and blue states for blueies. Self sort.

  30. bearcreekbat 2021-03-24 19:00

    The comments from “Jen” remind me of pre-civil war thinking: Free states and Slave states. Indeed, a similar thought process prevailed after reconstruction was upended in the 1870’s presidential election shady back room deal where Congress appointed Republican Hayes as the winner in exchange for a future acceptance of “whites only” and “colored only” schools, restaurants, hotels, bus seating and even drinking fountains. Why am I not surprised that someone claiming alligence to the new Trump inspired right wing viewpoint might have such a world view; each to his or her own I guess.

  31. Jen 2021-03-24 19:06

    I didn’t write anything about President Trump or that I claimed allegiance to him or his viewpoints. He is really a NY liberal, not a real conservative. And since you mentioned color (I never did), I wasn’t planning to go there but, since you went there, I’m an Asian-American for the record. In fact, I grew up in Philippines. My husband’s ancestors are South Asian, although he grew up in NY. But that of course has nothing to do with what I was writing. I just mentioned it since you wrote about color. We are both minority conservatives.

    Red states for the reddies, blue states for the blueies. Let the blue areas be bright blue and the red ones be bright red, without any purple wishy-washiness on either side. Self-sort.

  32. Arlo Blundt 2021-03-24 20:42

    Jen–please let me assure you of something I’ve said all during this transgender controversy. Homophobia and discrimination against people who are non typical in their sexual orientation are NOT traditional South Dakota values. We are much more thoughtful and considerate than that. Welcome to South Dakota, turn your clock back thirty years.

  33. Jen 2021-03-24 20:49

    I have been in SD for Years. It’s a bright red state full of Christians like me, who are against degeneracy. Ask around. Look at the voting patterns. Look at former VP Pence’s views on the subject. His ticket got upwards of 60% in this state.

    In the state that I sadly lived in before, NY, the votes were pretty much the opposite.

    Speaks for itself. Self-sorting.

  34. Donald Pay 2021-03-24 21:06

    I moved out of South Dakota for a lot of reasons. The biggest was money. I could make about double for the same job I was doing there, and I had a better path for advancement, better fringe benefits.

    But, I do have to say, I was tired of trying to save South Dakota from itself. As young and naive graduate students, we thought it would be nice to return to South Dakota and put our expertise to work for our home state. And we made a difference, but it took a toll on our lives. When my daughter went to college in Minnesota, I no longer felt the need to hang around.

    There’s a lot of good in the people of South Dakota, but the one-party state is sort of like being in Communist China during the Mao era. I used to lobby when the legislature was evenly split, during Mickelson’s terms as Governor. That’s when the state government actually worked. I mean the transgender stuff is just a ridiculous cockup by a party that doesn’t have anything to offer but hate. It’s the hate that I couldn’t stand. Hate Indian. Hate gays. Hate liberals. Hate transgenders. I had to leave to escape the hate. It’s like the Republicans in South Dakota can’t do anything but hate, tax the poor and funnel money to the rich. Yeah, I had had enough of that.

  35. Jen 2021-03-24 21:11

    ^ Good. You self-sortied, just like I did. And ya, the transgender stuff is a ridiculous cookup by a party that can’t figure out that people with dicks are dudes and those without them are ladies.
    Anyway, glad you left! Just like the people of NY are probably glad I left. Same deal. I think all conservatives should immediately move out of every blue state, like I did. Every state should be fully blue or fully red.
    Now if every state could be either 95 +% red or blue, then we’d be all set. Eventually we might come close to that.
    Self-sort, everyone.

  36. Arlo Blundt 2021-03-24 21:22

    Jen–yes, the state of South Dakota has many practicing Christians, which is exactly why citizens of South Dakota do not make life miserable for persons whose sexual identity, through biology or environment, is non typical. We don’t discriminate or exercise bias against these folks because they are all a mother’s son or a father’s daughter. They have grandparents who we know, who love them, and siblings who stand proudly by their side. Their lives are complicated enough without our spurious judgement or interference. We have not walked a mile in their shoes. We are thoughtful and considerate. We “throw not the first stone” in all our interactions with all the people in our community. We need each other. Unlike people purporting to be Christian last January 6, we do not want to hang Mike Pence.

  37. Jen 2021-03-24 21:24

    Ya, Aldo Burnt Applesauce. The votes Speak for themselves. SD’ans are all for making sinners miserable. At least many of us are. Ever been to the Sturgis rally? Ask how the bikers feel about gay rights, LMAO. Come preach to them about it, and let me Know how it turns out for ya! Enough Said. Self-sort.

  38. Arlo Blundt 2021-03-24 21:57

    well, Jen I’ve never attended the bike rally but I don’t believe many South Dakotans do, its sort of a national convention of the Banditos and their wantabees, and I don’t believe they represent a typical South Dakotan point of view. I don’t want to judge the bikers and their fans but I’m told there is sin at the bike rally. In fact, I believe that’s the attraction. As for our politics in South Dakota, there is only one thing we fear more than a just and merciful God, and that is, a state income tax.

  39. Jen 2021-03-24 22:04

    Glad we have no Income Tax, I’m with ya there. Again, that’s (mostly) a red state thing, with some exceptions like WA state. NY has some of highest Income Tax in the country (CA, too). Again, that self-sorting thing. :)

  40. Arlo Blundt 2021-03-24 22:25

    well..Jen, I hate to disappoint, but I believe South Dakota will be stuck in the ditch until we get an income tax.

  41. Jen 2021-03-24 22:34

    We’re never getting that, thankfully

  42. Cory Allen Heidelberger Post author | 2021-03-25 05:46

    The Democratic Party did not “cook up” transgenderism. The Republican Party cooked up this crazy idea that transgender athletes are wrecking sports in South Dakota. That Republican cooking could cost us jobs and tax revenue by driving away employers like Amazon, thus increasing the chances that South Dakota state government will have to consider adding an income tax as the reasonable third leg of the fiscal stool to save the state budget, thus increasing the chance that Jen will have no place left to self-sort. Well done, Republicans.

  43. Dicta 2021-03-25 08:25

    You all realize Jen is satirizing the right, correct? The bit about getting moral viewpoints from a bike rally laid that pretty bare.

  44. happy camper 2021-03-25 08:29

    Noem thought she could use this harness South Dakota traditional values, it backfired, but this doesn’t mean the transgender issue is unimportant. These kids are being given a disservice by the school systems and the mental health community with the rigid, myopic position that their transgenderism must be confirmed. That is sheer lunacy. I really don’t know if everyone understands this, that during therapy they can’t be questioned about past trauma. Only confirmed their transgenderism is right. Children have limited understanding, in fact we all still do, about gender norms and what exactly it means to be a man or woman. Things used to be so defined, men’s and women’s roles, appearance, etc, who isn’t to say some level of confusion is normal. Let these kids grow up! There is too much pressure on them at an early age. And then credentialing is a problem: “You have to listen to me cause I have a master’s in social work.” They don’t know anything either but they want to hold that over the population like they are the authorities, and these areas have been invaded by the progressives. I’ve talked to my gay friends a lot of them ain’t buying this either. I woke up Superman this morning how dare you tell me I’m not!!!

  45. Donald Pay 2021-03-25 08:55

    Yup. People do self-sort.

    Self-sorting should come with some self-responsibility, though. When I moved from South Dakota to Wisconsin, I ended up going to a state that is taxed to keep South Dakota operating. Those of us in blue states pay more taxes into the federal government to fund red states, like South Dakota, a state that sucks far more than it’s fair share of federal dollars. South Dakota has long been a socialist paradise. It seems to me that if people want to move to South Dakota, they ought to tax themselves and not rely on socialism to keep their state going.

    You know South Dakota conservatives talk a lot about socialism. I think that’s because they are so ashamed to be welfare queens. If South Dakota didn’t have blue states to bail them out of not funding their own needs, they would essentially dry up and blow away. When people self-sort to South Dakota, they are entering a failed state that can’t survive without a federal dole. Feeling ashamed of being government teat suckers is the first step toward recovery.

    Because I’m far more conservative than Jen, and don’t support socialism, like Jen, I supported a state income tax when I was in South Dakota. I felt it was my responsibility to fund state needs with state dollars, rather than taking money from, oh, Wisconsin. As a Wisconsin resident I’ve paid a modest state income tax to fund our education system and other needs. As a result Wisconsin gets less federal money back than it pays in. Unfortunately, our excess money goes to welfare socialists, like Jen, who pretend to hate socialism while voting in the socialist Republicans, who don’t pay for their own needs.

  46. jen 2021-03-25 12:31

    Dems did cook up transgenderism because no such thing exists. It’s all a warping of the mind. Good riddance to Amazon. Self sort is right. Red states for reddies, and blue states for blueies. Blue states should be far blue and red states should be far red. No squishy middle, no purple.

    Not satirizing anything, Mike Ditka. I’m a Pro-Life conservative Christian.

    As for Donald Duck’s reply, there should be no federal Income Tax so I’ll be happy without Wisconsin subsidizing us. I am upper middle class so I don’t depend on any government subsidy. Let people sink or swim on their own in a free market without welfare of any kind. Free markets, every man for himself.

    If u don’t like SD, good, I’m glad you left. Why are you commenting on a SD page? I thought this was for SD residents not former SD residents. I don’t comment on NY pages because I thankfully left that blue state. I comment on red state forums only because I’m on that team. See my sports analogies above. As a fiscal conservative I don’t support any Taxation because by Paying Taxes, I’m giving up rights to do what I want with my Money. I’ll better decide how to spend than the government can. Let everything be private with zero socialism. Government IS the problem.
    And there are many red oil states like ND who take in less than they Pay out. But I agree. End the federal governments. End welfare, privatize SS, everything. Let everyone sink or swim in a fiscally libertarian environment. Don’t give me anything, don’t take anything from me. End all federal government programs immediately. Self sort.

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  47. bearcreekbat 2021-03-25 13:11

    Jen doesn’t tell us where the purples should live, but with Jen’s description of his or her required characteristics to belong in the contemplated red and blues states, it appears that purples sure don’t belong any place in Jen’s desired world. I sure hope Jen doesn’t advocate a “final solution” for these poor souls similar to the solution devised by Germany in the 1940’s.

    As for South Dakota’s taxes, we shouldn’t overlook the detail that since SD doesn’t have an income tax its sales tax and property taxes are among the highest in the nation.

    All of those extra taxes contribute to higher-than-average living expenses in some of those states [with no income tax]. Washington, New Hampshire, Nevada, Florida and South Dakota were among the 24 states with the highest cost of living in 2018, according to data compiled by the Council for Community & Economic Research

    I know, I know, that dang reality always seems to get in the way of simple solutions to imaginary troubles.

  48. Jenny 2021-03-25 13:12

    My DFP kindred spirits, please don’t feed the troll. Please don’t, it’s not worth it.

  49. jen 2021-03-25 13:24

    Keep feeding me. The purples should pick a side and either be far blue or far red. I have no use for moderate Republicans in blue states for example. I hope the red governors of MA, VT, etc., lose, for example. They have no business being in those blue states. They should self-sort themselves out of that states and let those states have extremely blue governors, like they should have. Red states for the reddies, blue states for the blueies. Every Republican should immediatly move out of every blue state right away. Let’s not have any more 70/30 states. Every state should be 95/5, or preferably 100/0 one way or the other. No RINOS, no DINOS. Either far red or far blue. Pick one, no purple, no pale pastels, no squishy middle. Far GOP or far DEM. 2 lanes on the highway, pick one, don’t ride in between. Baseball? OK, American league or national league. Pick one, can’t be in both. During interleague play, when the AL visits the NL, the AL pitchers have to bat (by NL rules in the NL home stadiums). When NL visits the AL, they use the DH (by AL rules in AL stadiums). Every visiting team follows the rules of the home team’s stadium. So when I visit a blue state (and I try to do this as infrequently as possible), I never forget that I am the “away” team. When I visit NY, I Know my concealed carry permit does not apply so I follow their rules on their home turf. Similarly, when bluies wanna visit the red home turf, abide by our rules or don’t play in our stadium. Turnabout is fair play.

    Self sort forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Boom.

  50. Arlo Blundt 2021-03-25 14:05

    well…Jen, you say you/re a pro life Christian whose moral certitude is validated by the behavior of the attendees at the Sturgis Bike Rally….you want only like minded people living with you in South Dakota….You seem confused and conflicted and living a rather narrow reality where the parameters are money and a sense of religious superiority. Carry on, but don’t ask me to join you.

  51. Jen 2021-03-25 14:11

    Never asked u to join me, bub. I would actually prefer if you didn’t. Go play golf. I am certain most of the Sturgis crowd are members of “Bikers for Trump” who would beat up any gay people they saw. And I would Bet that most of them are Pro-Life Republicans. That makes them conservative. I too share those exact same views. Most SD’ans support that same party (proof is in the pudding, if you look at the election results). Good for them. Do the math. Self-sort. Bye!

  52. bearcreekbat 2021-03-25 14:15

    Okay, here’s another small tasty morsel to consider – who will monitor the people who claim they want to live in a red or blue state to make sure a sufficiently number of the “right” people move in and actually live there to meet the 70/30 or 95/5 arbitrary standards, while assuring that not too many of the “wrong” people who in truth disagree with the required extreme red or blue viewpoint, but make a fake claim otherwise just so they can reside in an inappropriate State of their own personal choice, and move in to screw up the abitrary population standards? For example, will residents’ voting choices be monitored by State residency police? And if discovered, will the “wrong” people be deported to a State deemed more appropriate to their viewpoints? Will they get trials first, or will a State residency officer from each State simply decide who belongs and who doesn’t, no questions asked?

    Or is this just an argument for purely voluntary behavior, with no State interventions, monitoring or sanctions for non-complying individuals? If the latter, how would anyone even know if the arbitrary standards had been met so they could pick the appropriate State in which to reside?

  53. jen 2021-03-25 15:02

    Nobody needs to monitor or enforce anything. I wrote self-sort, not force-sort. If some conservative wants to keep living in NY, then he can do so. But he must bear in mind that he is part of the “away” team and not try to change that area because he is a guest in the other team’s house. And vice versa on the libbies in the red areas. I CHOSE to leave NY. But if some conservative wants to stay there, then they should suffer and not complain about it. Either move, or stop complaining. Two choices. I chose to move.

    Yes this is voluntary. I think we all Know which states are which way. SD is on the red team, MA is on the blue team. I think anyone willing to voluntarily self-sort can intelligently pick which state is on what team.

    If someone wants to live around Boston Red Sox fans (as an analogy), then probably the Bronx, NYC, is not the place to move to, because that is Yankee country. If someone wants to live among Chicago Bears fans, then probably Green Bay, WI is not the right place for you. If someone wants to live among NY Giants fans, then most likely, Philadelphia PA, is not the place to move to.
    Use your intelligence, common-sense, and self-sort accordingly. I think most people can go online and figure out which states are red or blue and pick accordingly. People can self sort into blue or red cocoons and stop complaining about what the other team is doing. MA can be as far ultra-super left as they want, and vice versa for the red states. You do your thing, we’ll do ours. I won’t Tell your baseball team what your lineup, should be, and you don’t Tell ours. You play your game, we’ll play ours. When there’s interleague play, we’ll play by your rules on your stadiums, you’ll play by ours, when you visit our stadiums. So I’ll follow NY’s gun laws when I (hopefully rarely) visit there, and vice versa when my in-laws visit here. Self-sort.

  54. o 2021-03-25 15:23

    jen, how does one federally self sort?

  55. jen 2021-03-25 15:27

    ^ Well, pick a red or blue state. Self-sort. As in, I left NY for SD because I was conservative. This way, all the conservatives live in red areas and vice versa. We don’t have to interact with the other team except during interleague play, to use the MLB analogy. When I rarely visit the blue states, I’ll get complete whatever the purpose of my visit then come back and sterilize myself as soon as I’m back on my red home field (and y’all do the same after leaving our home turf). Blue for thee, red for me. Self sort.

  56. mike from iowa 2021-03-25 16:03

    ,There is no known antidote to red state magat stoopidity except death.

  57. mike from iowa 2021-03-25 16:11

    If u don’t like SD, good, I’m glad you left. Why are you commenting on a SD page? I thought this was for SD residents not former SD residents.

    Where does it say for South Dakotans only, Grudzilla junior? It doesn’t, but, you sound like Grudzilla, the magat grinch troll from Vapid City.

  58. jen 2021-03-25 16:30

    Yes, people who spell words, like, magat and stoppidity need that Antidote. This page is for SD’s only. A private forum for SD residents to discuss among ourselves. People should only post in the page of their residence. SD is for SD’ans only. I would not post in a NY page even though I’m originally from there. That page is for NY liberals only so my posting there would be about as meaningful as a Yankee fan posting in a Red Sox fan page forum. I left there, and therefore proudly renounced my NY citizenship and my right to weigh in that liberal cesspool’s politics. Yankee pages for Yankee fans, Red Sox pages for Red Sox fans, Orioles pages for Orioles fans, etc.. No co-mingling of fandoms. SD page for SDan’s, NY pages for NY’ers etc.. Everyone is in their “echo chamber bubbles” and are happy. I don’t Tell Ney Yorkers what to do so they shouldnt Tell South Dakotans what to do. I don’t Tell the other baseball team who their starting pitcher should be nor should they Tell mine who it should be. Everyone should mind their business and leave the other teams alone. I don’t care about your team so stop worrying about mine. And this page is about SD not Iowa. Go post in yours.
    The end. Self-sort.

  59. jen 2021-03-25 16:31

    * I meant New York not New York, above. Typo, my bad.

  60. jen 2021-03-25 16:32

    * New, not Ney. Spelling error.

  61. bearcreekbat 2021-03-25 17:27

    Glad to hear it is voluntary. One of the attributes of voluntariness that most folks appreciate is that there are always more than “Two choices.” If voluntary then a person doesn’t have to “Either move, or stop complaining.” In fact, a person can just as easily complain until circumstances change to his or her liking. Some folks are actually attached to their home communities and will work for change if the community becomes too red or too blue. That exact circumstance has occurred in SD history more than once and no doubt will occur again. The last change was from blue to red. The crazier conservative red pols act, however, the sooner more folks will complain until they change it back to blue again.

    People who have real ties to, and care about, their communities don’t usually run away when current politics begin to offend them, rather, they will often take whatever steps they feel are appropriate to bring things back to a point they agree with. These steps certainly include “complaining,” and such “complaining” will always be a voluntary choice by people who actually care about their communities rather than shutting up or moving.

    Making such a choice to complain and fight for change becomes much more difficult, however, if the community becomes so dangerous and repressive (e.g. dictatorships, conservative fascism, cartel or gang control, oligarchy, anarchy, etc) that people lacking power, or access to food, shelter and/or necessary resources, become aware that they, their children and their families are actually in danger of starving, being tortured, murdered, or losing their freedom. People in those situations often face the dilemma of either shutting up and accepting whatever is inflicted on them and their families or trying to leave. At that point leaving becomes a matter of survival, especially for children and loved ones (e.g. the very bind in which most modern day immigrants coming to our southern border find themselves – they know that they have no safe choice for their loved ones but to flee and seek help from foreign strangers). Still, once their loved ones are safe some other folks will voluntarily stay, complain and fight for change for the better even when their lives are threatened – it remains a choice for them.

    So far in South Dakota we don’t face such harsh treatment, which makes the choice to stay, complain and struggle to improve the situation a relatively safe choice. For those who care about this State and the future of the next generation there is no need to self-sort yet. That includes fighting against State sanctioned discrimination against people who have violated no laws and harmed no one, regardless of which gender they declare themselves to be .

  62. jen 2021-03-25 17:38

    Again, I don’t complain about a blue state being blue. I don’t complain about an Italian restaurant serving meatballs instead of gyros. If I want gyros, I go to a Greek restaurant. Complaining that there aren’t enough NY Yankees fans in Boston wouldn’t change that fact. But moving to NYC would immediately rectify that fact. Similarly, everyone Knows NY is blue. If I want redness, I moved to a red place. Complaining that NY is too blue wouldn’t make it redder. Moving to SD, however, made my surroundings much redder. Red states for the reddies and blue states for the blueies. I came here precisely BECAUSE it was red. If it wasn’t, I’d have picked another one. I had 50 such choices from which to pick. Plenty of blue choices, plenty of red ones. Self-sort. Problem solved. And you can’t declare your gender. What body parts you are born with is what declares your gender. I can’t declare A $1 Dollar Bill to be A $5 Dollar Bill no matter what I claim. When I was 18, I should have “identified” as a 21 Year old in order to be able to buy BEER LOL! I wouldn’t have needed my fake ID, LOL! Self-sort self-sort. I won’t Tell liberals what to do because they aren’t my team, but I’ll Tell conservatives this: “GET OUT OF EVERY BLUE STATE NOW. IMMEDIATLY MOVE TO A RED STATE OF YOUR CHOICE. LEAVE THE BLUE STATES TO BE 95% OR HIGHER BLUE. LIVE AMONG YOUR RED FRIENDS NOT YOUR BLUE ENEMIES. THEY HAVE THEIR AREA, WE HAVE OURS. IGNORE THEM AND FORGET ABOUT THEM. BLUE STATES FOR LIBERALS RED STATES FOR CONSERVATIVES. SELF-SORT AT ONCE!!”

  63. mike from iowa 2021-03-25 19:01

    jen, yer South Dakota beans are working up a full force blow. Until the owner/writer/ proprietor of this blog says otherwise, outsiders will continue to point out what you magats refuse to see is wrong with yer state and inbred magat, one party.gubmint.

  64. jen 2021-03-25 19:14

    Nope, SD is for SD’ans only. Just like Iowa is for Iowans only. I don’t Tell people what to do in their house. And perhaps try a spelling lesson, then people can comprehend what you portray as English. The end. Self-sort.

  65. Joe 2021-03-31 22:23

    My take: “Jen” is not Asian, female, or a SD resident. Someone from Noem’s staff told Gateway Pundit or Breitbart about this blog, and they assigned an intern to troll it.

  66. jen 2021-03-31 23:29

    LOL, Joey, your “take” is wrong. I am Asian-American, female, and a SD resident. Come see me in Lead, I’ll be happy to meet you. SD for SD’ns, self sort.

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