The Russian military attacked the United States during the 2016 election. According to special counsel Robert Mueller’s latest indictment (bringing his total to 31 individuals and three entities indicted), twelve Russian military intelligence officers “conducted large-scale cyber operations to interfere with the 2016 elections.” Their conspiracy to commit and offense against the United States included the criminal acts of hacking, transmitting malware, computer fraud, identity theft, money laundering, and transmitting funds into U.S. with intent to fund crime.
According to the indictment released Friday, these twelve Russian military officers hacked the 2016 Clinton campaign, the Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and several “state boards of elections, secretaries of state, and U.S. companies that supplied software and other technology related to the administration of U.S. elections.” These twelve Russian military officers stole huge volumes of documents, then created the false identities of DCLeaks.com, falsely portrayed as “American hacktivists” and Guccifer 2.0, falsely portrayed as a lone Romanian hacker with no connection to Russia, to distribute the documents and interfere with the election. Among the Americans to whom the Russian military spies leaked their stolen documents were a Congressional candidate who contacted “Guccifer 2.0” asked for documents the candidate’s opponent and a “state lobbyist and online source of political news.” Via the Guccifer 2.0 ruse, these twelve Russian military officers also communicated multiple times with “a person who was in regular contact with senior members of the presidential campaign of Donald J. Trump” with offers to help with stolen documents.
These twelve Russian military officers hacked these many systems with spearfishing and spoofing, using bogus e-mail requests to trick people (including John Podesta, the chairman of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign) into clicking links that opened fake websites controlled by the Russians and entering their passwords. These twelve Russian military officers took over the DNC and DCCC networks and diverted visitors to a website spoofing ActBlue, the well-known Democratic fundraising website. These twelve Russian military officers concealed their Russian identities and Russian money by acquiring their domain names and other resources with fake American names, nonsense addresses, and Bitcoin.
The Russian military cyberattack laid out in the latest indictments is the equivalent of crashing airplanes into skyscrapers, except now this is a foreign nation crashing computers into our election. In the face of the former attack on September 11, 2001, we grounded every plane in America, reorganized federal security and intelligence agencies into the Department of Homeland Security, activated NATO, and went trillions more dollars into debt to wage two wars and topple two foreign regimes, one of which wasn’t even working with the bad guys who originally attacked us.
Now we learn the Russian military—an actual state—attacked our fundamental Constitutional activities, and our President spends the yesterday golfing in “preparation” for a summit with the Russian President. Asked on Face the Nation whether he will ask Putin to extradite these twelve Russian military officers, Trump said he “hadn’t thought about it” but will consider asking. Trump is heading into this meeting with a hostile foreign power with vague hopes for “a very good relationship with Russia” but no plan.
Imagine if on September 14, 2001, instead of standing with a bullhorn and firefighters on a pile of rubble in New York City, President George W. Bush had flown to Kabul to shake hands with the Taliban and seek “a very good relationship.”
Russia attacked America in 2016. They have all the same capabilities in place for another attack this year. Reasonable responses from the United States of America, from both a governmental level and an individual level, include the following:
- Freeze Bitcoin and all other cryptocurrencies. The United States should not allow any more transactions of this fake currency until it has been able to conduct a complete audit of whatever records may be available and implement regulations and monitoring to ensure fake currencies cannot be used against the interests of the United States. Even if the government cannot shut down this Monopoly-money scam, patriotic citizens should not touch Bitcoin.
- Audit or replace every computer in every secretary of state’s office, every board of elections office, and every election hardware/software vendor’s office.
- Make nice with NATO again and ask our allies to join us in a massive cyberdefense strategy that will involve tracking and knocking down the faintest whiff of online aggression from the Russians.
- Or—you know what?—how about we simply shut down Russia’s Internet for a few days. No signals in or out of Russia until Putin extradites his twelve military election hackers.
- Don’t answer e-mails from people you don’t know. Ever.
- Give no one your passwords.
- Make everyone in your organization follow strict information security protocols, including the boss. Especially the boss.
- Web vendors: check addresses buyers supply—if they give nonsense, don’t make the sale, and call the cops.
- Read your URLs very carefully.
- Check all sources. Ignore all anonymous sources unless they are reported by responsible, identifiable journalists who can be held accountable.
Russian military intelligence attacked the United States, with the intent of interfering in our 2016 election. This is not fake news. This is not a partisan issue. The activities laid out in Mueller’s latest indictment is the Russians trying to undermine the integrity of our political system for their geopolitical gain. We need to respond as a nation with serious and concerted countermeasures to stop any further such interference and to hold accountable the 2016 attackers, including their boss, Vladimir Putin.
John Thune must resign immediately from the Senate for his part in this treasonous attack on America. As the number 3 man in the Republican controlled Senate, he had direct knowledge of the Russian interference and did nothing but condone it.
“And they made a case for a united, bipartisan front in response to what one official described as “the threat posed by unprecedented meddling by a foreign power in our election process.”
The Democratic leaders in the room unanimously agreed on the need to take the threat seriously. Republicans, however, were divided, with at least two GOP lawmakers reluctant to accede to the White House requests.
According to several officials, McConnell raised doubts about the underlying intelligence and made clear to the administration that he would consider any effort by the White House to challenge the Russians publicly an act of partisan politics.” Washington Post December 9, 2016
The article goes on further:
“The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.
Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton’s chances.”
Now we know that Mueller has indicted 12 Russian military men, under direct orders from Putin and trump attacked the United States on July 27, 2016. The only difference between these 12 enemy combatants and the 19 enemy combatants that attacked the United States on September 11, 2001 were the dates. John Thune went to Russia to sell us out even further and to grease the skids for this corrupt meeting between trump and Putin tomorrow, with no records of what is being concocted. Thune must step down and spend time with his family…in Moscow.
McConnell’s comment cited by jerry above (“….raised doubts about the underlying intelligence.”) implicate him even further as a purely partisan co-conspirator with the Russian military. He should be tried for treason and if convicted – given the usual sentence – execution.
A full scrubbing and reboot of computers related to election processes is in order. A full reboot of Congress and the White House wouldn’t hurt, either.
Agreed, Cory. Start over with all new election related cyber tools from computers to voting machines. And … since President Trump didn’t win fair and square his powers should be severely limited and many even eliminated until a fair election is held. i.e. No executive actions allowed. No agreements with foreign leaders and absolutely no military actions allowed.
*Odds are Trump knew about the Russian involvement and will be sanctioned or removed but until then his powers must be curtailed.
I seriously doubt Drumpf is ever going to disbelieve Putie when he claims Russia had nothing to do with the election hacking.
All Putie need is to blow the dog whistle to get Drumpf’s scatter brain focused on HRC and her emails and the FBI.
btw, where is Drumpf’s DFP lap dog?
The first step in Trump’s plan to protect our elections was to fire Tom Bossert, cybersecurity czar and Rob Joyce, cybersecurity coordinator with no plan to replace either before the mid-terms.
John Thune and the rest of the Confederates have been found out. Turns out that Israel is behind the meeting with Putin and helps explain what the rest of the story is about. So the trade wars are just a smoke screen for a real war with Iran. Makes sense, destroy American values and Democracy to further the authoritarian control by the elite. The highest court in the land has already been compromised, so just a matter of time before the shock and awe happening to our treasury. Thune will come out on top though, bless his heart.
Jerusalem Post Middle East
INTELLIGENCE REPORT: ISRAEL NEEDS TRUMP AND PUTIN IN SYRIA
Netanyahu seeks support from Trump and Putin as Israel’s ‘free hand’ in Syria approaches its end.
BY YOSSI MELMAN JULY 15, 2018 04:20
> What Syria deal will Trump and Putin reach in Helsinki?
> Is southern Syria heading for ‘Lebanonization’?
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Intelligence Report: Israel needs Trump and Putin in Syria
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu shakes hands with Russian President Vladimir Putin . (photo credit: KOBI GIDEON/GPO)
Though he hasn’t been present there, the spirit of Israel’s prime minister hovered all over the summit meeting between the US and Russian presidents in Helsinki in mid-July. Benjamin Netanyahu worked laboriously mobilizing all his influence in Washington to persuade Donald Trump to meet Vladimir Putin.
The two leaders have mysterious relations that are unfolding as a special investigation of former FBI director Robert Muller into alleged Russian meddling in the last US presidential elections is progressing. Trump and Putin were scheduled to discuss international matters from North Korea to the Russian occupation of the Crimean Peninsula in Ukraine to the trade wars declared by Trump and the conflicts in the Middle East.” https://www.jpost.com//Jerusalem-Report/Intelligence-Report-Back-to-the-Future-562417
So there ya go kids, steal the elections and keep the puppets in congress to fight Israel’s fights in the Mid East. We spend our blood of our soldiers and sailors for the glory of Bibi.
Drumpf just named the European Union as a foe. Putin’s orders, no doubt.
Some of the computer scientists at the University of Illinois who developed the WWW and Internet refinements warned about using them as the control and management media for the infrastructure and for the storage and transmission of sensitive information. They proposed alternative ways of setting up computer networks, but it has been 20 years since I have seen or heard any discussion of them. Seems like the time to revive that discussion.
For years, our Republican friends could never find enough money to fight the “Russkies,” but now, with all of this, our Republican friends in Washington are silent to these meddling realities and would rather waste time with a “Gong Show” performance in their questioning of a FBI agent about his late night tweets….
Phooey, who cares? Russia scores one. We do it all the time to many other nations. It happened on Obama’s watch anyway. Illegals voting is foreign interference in elections- no one here really cares about election meddling- or you’d oppose that, or demand jail for the DNC leaders and Clinton Crime Family for stealing the primary from the multi-millionaire socialist.
Translate Steve to 9/11, amid the dust of the Pentagon and World Trade Center: “Phooey, who cares? Al-Qaeda scores one.”
Does that go over well with patriots?
Trump colluded with Russia to cheat and win a Presidential election. Mueller will prove it. What should we do about it, Hickey?
Why … blame Obama, of course. Because millions of illegals voted. Blame the victim, also. If the Clinton’s didn’t have a crime family they wouldn’t have been cheated out of a victory. BTW … socialists aren’t allowed to be rich, even in Europe.
That about covers it. Nothing to see here. On to more winning. #SaltedNutBar
To add to Cory’s analysis – translate Steve to Watergate. Burglars broke into the Democratic headquarters to steal information for political purposes. Phooey, who cares? The burglars and thieves score one.
Were the situation reversed, Republicans would have impeached Clinton by now based on the evidence available.
This “everybody does it so it’s no big deal” argument ignores the questions: should a country meddle in other countries’ elections? and Should any country accept a foreign power’s meddling?
When I was younger evangelicals were more deontological and a less utilitarian; the ends didn’t always justify the means. Times have changed.
Steve Hickey fulfills the operations of #WalkAway perfectly.
I care Steve and you should to, an American would care.
Wow. I wouldn’t say Russians won one. Stir a hornets nest. Trump and all syncophants are toast. No spell check so don’t bother Hickey. Shake hands for me when u see Trump. Remember u are a foreigner if still over there. It was a stupid last gasp by Putin. He’s likely toast by his own people too. Fools all. Including Thune. SD should be ashamed. :)
None of it matters. The cat is already out of the bag. The russians gained access through a phishing process and obtained many passwords. Just like you, those DNC folks all keep the same passwords they had in the system that was exposed and they are using the same passwords today just like you are. You can wipe the DNC servers clean all day long but the same password the DNC folks used in their server they use on our government server accounts. Every one of these fools attended an annual course on how to secure their systems through using difficult passwords, changing their passwords frequently and not using the same passwords on different systems. They were REQUIRED to follow the instructions they were give yet they DID NOT follow these simple instructions. This is also how the OPM gave the employment data on our federal employees to China. All is known by all.
And I thought is was us Dems that hated America, Hickey. Thanks for revealing the truth for once.
OldSarge – #WalkAway
Drumpf and Oldwalkaway are fighting over who gets the lion’s share of zero credibility.
The Rev. Hickey seems to be trying to qualify for a preachership at the Westboro Baptist Church. There are many legitimate political points for which Hillary Clinton can be asked to account, such as Honduras, but the Clinton Crime Family is a meme revived from midnight talk radio from the 90s proven over and over again to be false, and the political tactics of the 2016 convention were rough, but the customary manipulations common to both parties, which are not crimes nor breaches of rules of procedure. In the denomination to which I am a nominal member, an ordained minister who makes such a public spectacle of malice and false witness would be a candidate for defrocking.
Clearly we Democrats should try to meddle with the next Republican primary and convention. Big deal, right? Phooey, right? If we manage to change the outcome, well, score one for Democrats and move on, right?
Even OldSarg admits the Russians lied, cheated, and stole to interfere in our election. The difference between OldSarg and me is that he shrugs it off because he is willing to make excuses for crime and espionage that might reflect poorly on his partisan preferences, and because he is willing to prioritize such partisan excuse-making over hardening our computers, our elections, and our political discourse against malicious foreign interference. I’m outraged and want heads to roll, because, regardless of who won, other countries should stay the heck out of our elections and not try to influence our elections through subterfuge and crime.
Notice that my critique and call for action have nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. I make no claim as to the practical impact of the Russian military’s effort to hack our election. I rest my critique and call to action entirely on the criminal and warlike nature of the Russian military’s action in and of itself. This cyberattack represents a clear and present danger to our most basic democratic function, voting. Shrugging this Russian attack off is unacceptable.
Certainly seems like we have gone way beyond impeachment for Putin’s orange bogus potus. He has past serious misdemeanors and is trending in treason territory.
This needs to be used against every wingnut in every state in every election for like forever.
Consider the scenario in paragraph 43a of Mueller’s July 13 indictment:
A candidate for Congress contacts an anonymous source who claims to have stolen documents. The candidate asks for stolen documents on his opponent. The anonymous source supplies relevant stolen documents. The anonymous source turns out to be Russian military intelligence officers.
Has the candidate for Congress committed a crime? Has the candidate for Congress violated any ethical standard?
Think about that question… because according to Mueller, that scenario really happened. A candidate for elected office in America collaborated with what turned out to be Russian spies in an effort to attack his opponent and improve his chances of winning the election.
In the United States, Receipt of stolen property is a federal crime under 18 U.S.C. § 2315, defined as knowingly receiving, concealing, or disposing of stolen property with a value of at least $5,000 that also constitutes interstate commerce (i.e., has been transported across state lines).
A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proven:
The person received or concealed or stored or disposed of items of stolen property.
The items were moving as, or constituted a part of, interstate commerce.
The items had a value in excess of $5,000.
The person acted knowingly and willfully.
The government must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the person either received, concealed, stored, sold, or disposed of the stolen property.
Poetic:
“How did I become that person? It happened because it was exhilarating. Every time I would call someone racist or sexist, I would get a rush. That rush would then be reaffirmed and sustained by the stars, hearts, and thumbs-up that constitute the nickels and dimes of social media validation. The people giving me these stars, hearts, and thumbs-up were engaging in their own cynical game: A fear of being targeted by the mob induces us to signal publicly that we are part of it.” ~BARRETT WILSON
As far as what the russians did: We do it as well, every day, 24/7.
Adrenalin addicted trump.
well, old sarge the troll, there’s this:
Tailspin
The People and Forces Behind America’s Fifty-Year Fall–and Those Fighting to Reverse It
By Steven Brill 2018
Over the last half-century, America’s core values–meritocracy, innovation, due process, free speech, and democracy have managed to decline into dysfunction. They, Republicans, essentially, have isolated our best and brightest, whose positions at the top have never been more secure or more remote.
The result has been an erosion of responsibility and accountability, an epidemic of shortsightedness, an increasingly hollow economic and political center, and millions of Americans gripped by apathy and hopelessness. By examining the people and forces behind the rise of big-money lobbying, legal and financial engineering, the demise of private-sector unions, and a hamstrung bureaucracy, Brill answers the question: How did we end up this way? Republicans do it everyday, 24/7/365.
Those working quietly and effectively to repair the damages are not the 1%
Os … What validity does your quote have?
“I drive food delivery for an online app to make rent and support myself and my young family.” – Barrett Wilson
https://quillette.com/2018/07/14/i-was-the-mob-until-the-mob-came-for-me/
Porter: It was well written, on point and truly reflects the mass hatred you and your ilk show for your fellow brethren. Peace is not found in hatred, name calling and attacks. Peace is found within. Look within Porter and find your inner peace brother.
I know that Mueller is exceptionally thorough and desires proving an air tight case, but I really hope he does it before the USA runs out of time. I can’t say exactly what “runs out of time” looks like, but sometimes it feels perilously near.
The Russian attack on our country cannot be allowed to stand, else we become little more than a Russian satellite state, less autonomous than Ukraine. We must respond with full force and strength and resolve. I personally prefer Cory’s suggestion that we shut down Russia’s internet. Let Putie talk to himself.
Oh, I forgot. You don’t like being reminded you’re racist. Your political party even invented a phrase attempting to salve the wound and “defend” their oppressive, insensitive and boorish words and actions from the public’s scrutiny. Political Correctness which is really Political Decency. Correct is correct, OS. It doesn’t change when you add a prefix.
When comrade Hickey and the old soviet agree that Democracy means nothing, then as a country, we have now failed the exam of existence. We are therefore not any better than those countries that we are refusing entrance too, or a third world s#!+ hole. That means that there is not American exceptionalism, only a failed state. Think that because Russia invaded us is because we have done that to other countries only makes it more likely that the next time will be even worse. Republicans could be targeted next. Then what?
Comrade Hickey needs to stay put in Scotland to watch the failed United Kingdom fall to the same kind of thinking he has just put forth. Hickey will then be ordained into the Russian Orthodox religion a step up from the hatred his Evangelicals hold, but still…
Has the candidate for Congress committed a crime? Has the candidate for Congress violated any ethical standard?
I’m pretty sure the candidate in question is a Florida wingnut who has been identified by name.
The unnamed campaign official making contact with the enemy is likely Roger Stone, since he has pretty much admitted it was he.
“conducted large-scale cyber operations to interfere with the 2016 elections.”
An indictment is someone accused. Your pro-war headline indicates an attacks HAS happened. Can you provide us more detail in 1) the evidence that links the Russian government to the individuals to the attacks and 2) the evidence that links these individuals to the attack attacks and 3) compare it to the hundreds of thousands of other foreigners who posted memes and lies to sway people so we can agree or disagree with your “proposed” responses.
Until then, you are just a corporate media swallowing war hawk who has no problem endangering our sons and daughters to score cheap political points.
Paul T. Read the indictments. It gives the Russian military men’s name and position along with the dates the attacks first began. Don’t forget that there are several guilty pleas already with one dude in jail at least.
You probably have not lived in the United States for very long, so I will give you a clue on how indictments work. The grand juries that bring these forward have been provided undisputed proof of wrong doing. The perp can then get representation to defend. In Russia’s case, Putin signed off on trump’s request for the Russian military’s involvement. These intelligence sources are to high up the food chain to go rogue.
Our sons and daughters are already in danger, that is why they took the job. Your leader trump, is the one who is enlarging the military and you are complying with your blind obedience to the con.
Speaking of Comrade trump, he just attacked the United States to defend his boss, Putin. nice.
“Our relationship with Russia has NEVER been worse thanks to many years of U.S. foolishness and stupidity and now, the Rigged Witch Hunt!”
Comrade trump goes to meet our enemy, the same one we have all of those missiles pointed at, and blames the United States for that. Blames the United States for making Russia supply arms and training to Vietnam to kill and maim those sons and daughters.
Jerry … Didn’t one political party claim President Obama was on a “World Apology Tour” blaming USA for things Republicans did in the past? Although, I think Obama had a better vocabulary than foolishness and stupidity.
*If you wonder how President Trump got an Ivy League degree with such a limited communication capacity, it was the same way he was elected. He cheated.
“*If you wonder how President Trump got an Ivy League degree with such a limited communication capacity, it was the same way he was elected. He cheated.” Portly please enlighten us to your educational pedigree. Let us all know how well educated you are so we all understand how sitting on your high horse judging others, who have achieved so much more than you, are frauds.
You have really grown into being a nasty mouthed person.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-alleged-russian-hacker-teamed-up-with-florida-gop-operative-1495724787
Names, people, names.
Well, I am surprised that no one really answered this here. He didn’t really “go to an Ivy League school” in the sense most people mean that today.
He went to Fordham (not a top tier school) as a freshman and sophomore. He could not get in an Ivy League at the time.
He transferred for the last two undergrad years into the Real Estate division of U of Penn’s Wharton School of Commerce and Finance. He did not get a MBA at “the Wharton School”. He got a BA. The name of the school was changed to The Wharton School” after he left.
His brother was a friend and former classmate with the admissions officer.
His father donated money to make the real estate program.
Ivy League schools in those days admitted the sons of the rich even if they were not academically very good.
He also did not graduate first in his class at Wharton.
Well, Porter, given just the spare details in the indictment, the candidate knew it was stolen property. At the time of the request, the public information available said the provider of the information was Romanian, so does that constitute interstate movement of the stolen property?
As for the $5K threshold, how do we go about calculating the value of stolen internal documents from political organizations?
This came from Quora, not me.
Paul T, the Russian military endangered none of their sons and daughters in their attack on the United States, an attack that pretty much everyone outside of partisan excuse-makers agreed upon as fact prior to Friday’s indictments. You’ll also notice that not one of my responses puts our sons and daughters at risk. I swallow no corporate media to come to these conclusions or to make my recommendations—I just read the indictments and history.
So Porter’s the only one who wants to explore the legal and moral dimensions of the Congressional candidate’s action? Seek out stolen documents from a foreign operative (who turns out to be Russian military) to forward one’s own campaign? Illegal? Unethical? Forfeiting office?
The indictments mean nothing. The actions taken by the Russians has been known for two years and if any of you think the Russians would give up their military members so our government could prosecute them you are living in a fantasy world of let downs. We have our own NSA that is doing the exact same thing and do you honestly think our government would give them up to the Russians?
In your search for the Boogey man that caused this crap you should look more at the Americans that through their own selfish acts decided to not follow standard cyber security protocol. Even discussing this as if anything would actually happen is just stupid.
I mean, Trump denied Russian meddling on numerous occasions. If nothing else, the indictments proved that he was wrong, as he constantly is. Of course, Russia isn’t going to extradite, but that really isn’t the point.
More excuse-making word games.
The indictments do mean something. As Jerry explained, indictments mean a grand jury heard lots of really compelling evidence that the indicted parties committed crimes.
I make no arguments that hinge on the Russians’ surrendering their spies for prosecution in American courts. I make no claim that such extradition is likely.
There is no evidence that the NSA is doing the exact same thing. If the NSA is committing crimes against other countries, I would expect other countries to respond harshly, just as I recommend we respond harshly to the Russians’ criminal efforts to undermine our democracy.
I acknowledge in my original post that Americans, including John Podesta, were scammed and that our responses to this scam must include everyone being more careful in their use of networked technology.
Discussing the real espionage committed by a foreign power to undermine our country is not a “stupid” hunt for “the Boogey man.” It is how we study, understand, and respond to our nation’s security needs. To say such discussion is stupid sounds like more psy-ops from the foreign power that wants us to remain lazy, unvigilant, or too divided to unite and take sensible action against foreign aggressors.
Luddite boomers don’t understand phishing scams. In related news: water is wet.
But tell us, OS: I’ve offered ten responses to the crimes laid out in the indictments. Tell us why any of those ten responses are bad ideas.
Tell us why we shouldn’t freeze Bitcoin and at least scrutinize if not boycott all cryptocurrencies (and come on, I can see some good debate there, much more interesting debate than just making blanket excuses for foreign espionage that under Obama would have set your hair on fire and had you calling for impeachment for dereliction of duty).
Tell us why we shouldn’t immediately audit or replace election-related computers.
Tell us why we shouldn’t engage NATO to join us in a massive cyberdefense strategy to track and defuse Russian hacking.
Tell us why we shouldn’t ignore e-mails from people we don’t know.
Tell us why we shouldn’t lock down our passwords.
Tell us why organizations shouldn’t tighten their information security protocols, especially among upper-level management.
Tell us why Web vendors shouldn’t refuse to do business with customers supplying fake info and report such fraud to the cops.
Tell us why we shouldn’t check our URLs, check our sources, and ignore anonymi.
I made all those suggestions, OS. Get specific, and tell me why the policies—public and private—that I recommend are bad for America.
Comrade trump chatted with Comrade Putin about the outing of his military intelligence (sic) fellow comrades. Comrade trump gave the order to attack and the military of Russia delivered. If anyone thinks that Comrade Putin is not concerned about the naming of his military men in this attack, you must be high. Mueller has the goods on what trump and Putin did, when it was started, and who did it. Expect to see American indicted shortly.
Comrade trump had difficulty graduating trump University and is now in the process of suing them for allowing the stupid to continue. Theresa May told him to do that after his professor at college called him the dumbest F—–, he ever taught.
Lee Stranahan.
You have really grown into being a nasty mouthed person. Said the pot to the kettle.
http://juanitajean.com/at-what-point-does-this-become-a-crime/
The aforementioned Lee Stranahan is involved with this mess and apparently the folks at Juanita Jeans are not fond of him, either.
OldSarg…I hope you realize both the RNC and DNC were hacked and Trump denied, and still does deny, that it ever happened. He is Putin’s little puppet.
https://crooksandliars.com/2018/07/our-intelligence-so-good-we-even-have
the hackers celebrating Drumpf’s win.
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/internet-gasps-trumps-appeasement-putins-election-interference-president-completely-owned/
It turned out worse than we figured. Drumpf is totally in love with his puppet master Putie.
I don’t know anyone who is not a fan of either Ron Paul or Noam Chomsky or Glenn Greenwald so when they all agree on something and you don’t – it is you that is wrong. Especially when the people telling you that you are right is essentially the propaganda wing of the United States Empire war machine.
https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1018521962316955649
Mueller in 2003 to Congress in open testimony: “Baghdad has failed to disarm its weapons of mass destruction, willfully attempting to evade and deceive the international community. Our particular concern is that Saddam Hussein may supply terrorists with biological, chemical, or radiological material.”
So I guess Democrats are the new hawks. Willing to listen to the lies of Mueller AGAIN as if they haven’t happened before and go against the IMPECCABLE history of Chomsky and Greenwald. Well, another reason to leave them I guess. I can’t wait for them to become one big pro corporation party with two wings – a “softie” wing who doesn’t like mean things said about working class people and a “meanie” wing who likes to blame the working class for their problems.
os … Your communication skills far exceed the communication skills of President Trump. His ADHD is public knowledge and the Adderall he uses to treat it is one cause of his communication lapses.
https://drugabuse.com/library/the-effects-of-adderall-use/
Cory … The penalty for tampering with e-mail can be up to 3 years in jail and a $250,000 fine. As a result, the federal penal code clearly outlines tampering with e-mail to be a felony.
There is also a code that explicitly protects against hacking electronic data. 18 U.S.C. 2701 protects against unauthorized access of digitally stored information. It states that anyone who “intentionally accesses without authorization…an electronic communication service…and thereby obtains, alters, or prevents authorized access to a wire or electronic communication while it is in electronic storage in such system shall be punished. The DOJ will also prosecute email hackers under more traditional crimes in addition to 18 U.S.C. 2701.
Cory … The value of Clinton e-mails easily exceeds $5000 if only for their potential use in book writing and publication.
So Drumpf is easing tensions on Russia’s border by trying to break up NATO and European Union? Ease tensions for his master Putie, by any chance?
Drumpf has all but admitted he is in bed with Putin, in the inferior position. Thought you right wing nut jobs hated Gays.
I’m sorry, Paul T, but none of those responses address the issues at hand. Are you seriously contending that Mueller’s Friday indictment is all lies? Are you seriously contending that Russia did not interfere in the 2016 election? And/or are you seriously contending that Russia did interfere in our election, none of my above suggested responses are valid or useful?
This morning on CNN I witnessed an American president surrender his country to a former KGB agent and current dictator of Russia.
This president turned his back and support on his own intel agencies. Instead of demanding of Putin to stop meddling in our elections he accepted Putin’s word hat it didn’t happen, that despite in the overwhelming evidence that Putin disrupted our 2016 election. The president made no mention of the 12 Russians indicted by Mueller just this past Friday and didn’t demand that Putin turnover over the Russian perps.
To the Russian apologists reading this thread, Russia had been our enemy since I can remember and they still are. Just ask Trump’s generals who are our the biggest threat to our national security, elections, and our democracy. They will tell you without a doubt it is Putin.
Robert Mueller did endorse Secretary of State Colin Powell’s assessment of Iraq in 2003. The entire quotation is: “Secretary Powell presented evidence last week that Baghdad has failed to disarm its weapons of mass destruction, willfully attempting to evade and deceive the international community. Our particular concern is that Saddam may supply al-Qaeda with biological, chemical, or radiological material before or during a war with the US to avenge the fall of his regime.” As the FBI does not collect foreign intelligence, it depends upon sources that do. The efforts to discredit Mueller on this point come right out of RT and TeaParty.Org, which cites InfoWars as a source.
https://www.rt.com/usa/421838-mueller-iraq-wmd-trump/
https://www.teaparty.org/watch-special-counsel-mueller-busted-corrupt-lie-got-people-killed-255618/
But Powell’s whole slide show was made up, if I remember right.
Every time people argue in favor of the honesty of Trump, I start looking for the Cheshire Cat. We are through the looking glass, folks.
Good research into Paul T’s lack of sources, Prof. Newquist. (Paul Ten Haken, perhaps?) :0)
As Roger said, Russia has been the USA’s enemy since 1946. That’s 72 years And Counting. That nation’s status as Enemy #1 has only increased since the advent of Putie as Supreme Russian Dictator.
Tangerine Wankmaggot is openly collaborating with our direst enemy. I believe that is called treason, a capitol offense.
Well now that trump is curled up w his blankie in US TAXPAYER’s Air Force One returning from a week of public treason no one on his side can have any legitimate response. Trump voters may have killed USA as we knew it.
READ TAILSPIN by Brill (2018)
Steve Hickey……..WOW. Phooey??? You gotta be kidding me. We have a so-called president (in name only) denying that a cyber attack happened and if it did happen, a foreign adversary who directed that attack, he openly embraces. He openly embraces a dictator who shoots down passenger airplanes, murders his foes, etc….. and your response is, phooey, Obama, Clinton, we all do it??
Mind blowing.
Maria Butina, 29, was arrested Sunday in the District and made her first appearance in U.S. District Court before Magistrate Judge Deborah A. Robinson. Her attorney, Robert Neil Driscoll, told the judge that Butina’s residence was searched by the FBI in April, that she had testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee in a closed session several months ago, and that “we have been offering to cooperate with the government the entire time.” Butina did not speak during the brief hearing.”
Rosenstein just buried the whole supposed collusion and the russsians he charged away to the dark world where you will never hear of it again: The Justice Department, Rosenstein said they will now “transition responsibility for this case to our Department’s National Security Division while we await the apprehension of the defendants.” Do you understand? Mueller’s case, the definitive case about what Russia did to interfere in the 2016 election, is no longer Mueller’s case. It is being “transitioned” — i.e., buried — in the Justice Department unit that deals with counterintelligence matters that do not result in public trials. It’s all over except for the media and their lemmings crying about something that never happened.
You guys need to beg the media to stop rolling balls in front of you. . . It freaking over, all to be buried away by the deep state.
Drumpf has made us safer- http://www.the-immoral-minority.com/two-department-of-energy-security-experts-allowed-plutonium-to-be-stolen-out-of-rental-car-in-texas-just-thought-you-should-know/
Moar winning for Drumpf and OldSferbrains.
Get off your knees and stop begging, OS. This is getting good!!
~ Mueller has four corners of indictments. The IRA’s information operations, Russian intelligence active cyber attacks, Paul Manafort’s business deals and Trump campaign contacts of George Papadopoulos and Michael Flynn. Four corners of a conspiracy that stretches from the Kremlin to Trump Tower, one that involves Putin-friendly oligarchs, the Russian military, and senior level campaign and transition officials whose motives weren’t necessarily ‘America first.’
What’s within those four corners is known by Mueller and Rosenstein. We can expect that the next round of indictments will soon begin to connect those dots, particularly in regard to the role of Americans who participated, wittingly or unwittingly, in the attacks. – Politico Playbook Power Briefing
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/watch-trump-talked-indicted-russian-operative-ending-sanctions/
This pertains to Maria Butoutsky or whatever her name is.
@MFI … In short, Maria came to Sioux Falls with Paul Erickson to use the state’s “most lax in the USA” banking laws to launder money from Russian billionaires to the NRA, who in turn anonymously funneled it to the Trump election campaign. Many estimate it to be around $350 million.
In a feeble attempt to distract from Trump’s traitorous display today, OS throws out a bone.
I checked out all 3 major media outlets as well as a few others can find no link to OS’s propaganda.
As of five minutes ago the Mueller case is still very active with no hint of letting up. In fact, a number of republican senators in the are condemning Trump’s behavior and how he sold out his country. Many in the House are doing the same thing, with a few now calling for Rod Rosenstein firing or resignation.
Where did you get that propaganda piece, OldSarge, @#WalkAway or a similar site?
OldSferbrains can’t even lie straight when he has the vapors. Here is what Rosenstein actually said- in context- There is no allegation in this indictment that any American citizen committed a crime. There is no allegation that the conspiracy altered the vote count or changed any election result.
The Special Counsel’s investigation is ongoing. There will be no comments from the Special Counsel at this time.
Assistant Attorney General John Demers is here with me today because we intend to transition responsibility for this case to our Department’s National Security Division while we await the apprehension of the defendants.
I want to caution you that people who speculate about federal investigations usually do not know all of the relevant facts. We do not try cases on television or in congressional hearings. Most anonymous leaks are not from the government officials who actually conduct investigations.
I guess Rosenstein is telling Drumpf’s DFP troll to shut his pie hole. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Actually, it was from the Justice Department statement issued July 13, 2018.
I did first find it at a right wing site, Roger. National Review had it and claimed it was politicized which, I suppose, is why OldSferbrains ran with it. He is running scared his beloved little commie owned orange hero is going down.
Roger and others- WAPO has this story covered, but it sits behind a paywall. Curse the luck.
Thanks for the clarity mfi, I knew it had to be something taken fully out of context or manufactured.
Interesting that the press conference makes no mention of the investigation not being buried or anything remotely close to shutting down.
Roger: “I checked out all 3 major media outlets as well as a few others can find no link to OS’s propaganda.”
idiot from iwacko: “Actually, it was from the Justice Department statement issued July 13, 2018. I did first find it at a right wing site, Roger. National Review” https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/muellers-latest-indictments-russians-politicized-pointless/
idiot from iwacko just called Roger a liar and he is right.
No Sferbrains, I corrected Roger was all I did. Notice I also did not post trash from National Review because they are trash, which explains OldSferbrains mucking around over there.
And I also proved you left out important context. You tried to buffalo people into thinking Mueller’s probe is over because you have a tiny weinie. I can call names, too.
BTW, sport, I didn’t call Roger a liar, you did. I called you and proved you are a liar.
The latest news is that Maria Butina, who swept around all over South Dakota with Paul Erickson, going to various Republican events, complete with photographs – has been indicted as a Russian agent by Muller. (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/16/us/politics/trump-russia-indictment.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur)
Might be time to trot out your expose on Ms. Butina (old post here: https://dakotafreepress.com/2017/03/27/maria-butina-connects-russians-nra-trump-sibby-and-mathew-wollmann/)
Transcript from Rosenstein’s press conference: “Assistant Attorney General John Demers is here with me today because we intend to transition responsibility for this indictment to the Justice Department’s National Security Division while we await the apprehension of the defendants.” http://time.com/5338451/rod-rosenstein-russian-indictment-transcript/
Buried. . . done. . .finished. Oh, one other item; had Mueller, Rosenstein or our DoJ been serious they would have filed under the TREATY WITH RUSSIA ON MUTUAL LEGAL ASSISTANCE IN CRIMINAL MATTERS that has been in effect since 1999. This would have allowed the DoJ to force Russia to cooperate in the supposed criminal act but, alas, they did not. Don’t you wonder why? Looks like this bogus attempt is no different than when Mueller charged the restaurant company for being Russian hackers. . . https://www.congress.gov/treaty-document/106th-congress/22/document-text?overview=closed
Now that is fall off your chair hilarious, mfi did not call me a liar, if you knew how to read and comprehend, mfi directed my to the site where he found the material, where’s the lie?”
Here’s the lie OldSarge told us in his comment, he is saying by transitioning the Russian perps to the National Security Division it effectively ends the investigation, OldSarge is lying and the National Review proves it.
mfi
The National Security Division of the Justice is basically a ‘holding cell’ until all the Russian perps can be rounded up.
Shouldn’t Rosenstein dismiss the indictments against the Russians if the whole thing is all over?
Roger: read, educate yourself, it is bogus and you are not willing to even read to find that out.
You’d certainly have to believe OldSferbrains would be screaming to let them go if that was the case. So now, OldSferbrains is doubling down to make hizownself look twice as stoopid as before.
Interesting note, it was Maria Butoutsky’s gun rights front group that paid the way for ex-Milwaukee sheriff David Clarke’s trip to Moscow.
Wonder if OldSferbrains gets any royalties for running interference for Drumpf.
OS, if you plan on being in DC anytime soon, drop by the orange infested WH and see if Drumpf is selling personalized pardons out of his personalized gift shop, will ya?
You guys are just full of crap. You are know nothings that know nothing. I understand why there are only two or three people on here that even give a real opinion. You have driven off the vast majority of the sane. I honestly am more disgusted knowing you guys even live in our world than the fact Cory lets you freaking crazy idiots comment here. Hillary, Perkins Coie, Fusion GPS, DoJ leadership, FBI leadership have been PROVEN to be conspiring to over throw a duly and honestly elected president and you don’t give a flying F#CK! You are not American or even welcome within a civil society. You are no different than a dog in heat.
Old Sarge, Simple yes or no question that doesn’t need any qualification, is Putin’s Russia an enemy of the U.S.?
Hillary, Perkins Coie, Fusion GPS, DoJ leadership, FBI leadership have been PROVEN to be conspiring to over throw a duly and honestly elected president a
OldSferbrains, no one has been charged with conspiracy to overthrow an illegally appointed bogus potus. Therefore it could not have been PROVEN.
Your bogus potus is going down hard. Get that through that thick skull of yours and stop lying to the good people here and to yourself. The Mueller investigation is still open and still finding more crimes for you to lie about. Get over yourself.
Roger, all kidding aside: I don’t think Russia is our greatest enemy. I think our greatest enemy is those within that are working to overthrow our Constitutional government. That would be the likes you have aligned yourself with.
I honestly am more disgusted knowing you guys even live in our world
Like who cares? Your lying to yourself again by saying honestly. You, like Drumpf, have no concept of honesty.
Be careful, Roger. OldSferbrains is trying to divide and conquer us. He is trying to drive a wedge between us by flattering you and villifying me. He thinks he is so clever and so obvious.
OS is showing strong signs of full mental breakdown, read that last comment of his. He is frustrated with his own ignorance because he can’t come on DFP and spout his conspiracy and propaganda without being busted by mfi.
As soon as you hear Hillary, Fusion GPS, etc. you know they are desperate because those are dead issues. Not long ago Trumpers were telling us that the DOJ’s IG report was going to reveal the sins of the Democrats and they would be thrown in jail. Well, the IG report came and went and there is nothing.
The walls are closing is on Trump and after today’s performance in Helsinki they may cause the roof to collapse as well.
Face it Roger. You are on Team Idiots.
I was never a Trump fan but the truth is he is winning. Remember? Trump will not run, Trump would not win, Trump will be impeached, Trump colluded, Trump is a traitor and what is next? Trump has won every battle he has been in. “As soon as you hear Hillary, Fusion GPS, etc. you know they are desperate because those are dead issues” as is Seth Rich. . .
You are chasing balls, hangin with fools.
It is your choice to live and linger in a world of denial when it comes to anything Trump and his crimes.
Hillary or the Democrats did not kill Seth Rich, it has been proven over and over again and his family has accepted the police reports, that is just another piece of propaganda you idiots will live with for the rest of your lives hoping it is true, Seth Rich doesn’t change a damn thing.
If Trump has won every battle he’s been in, he hasn’t been in the biggest looming, his own party is disowning him after his performance today. How long can the republican congressional defend him, how long before honest upright republicans support him, it is only getting worse for him. The thing is, he is doing it to himself.
Axios has some good stuff about the capitol hill GOP turning on Tangerine Wankmaggot, calling him a traitor for siding with his master, Putie, over the US intelligence services. I believe the word often repeated in describing Tangerine Wankmaggot’s performance in Helsinki is “humiliation.” Putie, a monstrous, cruel, despot, is playing Tangerine Wankmaggot like a first chair violinist on a Stradivarius.
Of course all the world pretty much knows how to play him. The Saudis and Chinese perfected it. England just did pretty well. A third grader could own him. A little false flattery, a little silly pomp and he’s all yours. So insane.
Mike and Roger, you should go a little easy on OS. It’s hard for him to see that his hero is made of fat cells, especially within the cranium.
Deb, I luv yah but pls don’t put strad ( a very beautiful thing) in same sentence as putin or trump. :)
one day after 12 Russian military hackers indicted and trump smooches putin…
OLD SARG: ” I honestly am more disgusted knowing you guys even live in our world than the fact Cory lets you freaking crazy idiots comment here.”
GOP crashing and burning. Rats, Ryan, Newt, ect scampering.
Sorry Leslie. I don’t know what I was thinking.
http://juanitajean.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/dwB8_uzhiwqHyfdLU52hWma835INU-ThUXcam7ewCPs.jpg
Obama answers wiretapping question.
Suspected Russia-Linked Facebook Pages Pushed ‘Abolish ICE,’ Anti-Trump #Resistance
https://www.dailywire.com/news/33883/suspected-russia-linked-facebook-pages-pushed-james-barrett
Is the DNC colluding with the Russians?
Here’s how Russian trolls infiltrated Facebook and a list of every post they made. Were you among the Russian sympathizers, Jason? I think you were …. You see, Russian trolls planted fake stories about liberals to enrage and move alt righters like Jason to action. BEWARE THE ZEALOT!! (Here’s how it worked.)
~ Right Troll and Left Troll are the meat of the Russian disinformation agency’s trolling campaign. Right Trolls behave like “bread-and-butter MAGA Americans, only all they do is talk about politics all day long,” Left Trolls often adopt the personae of Black Lives Matter activists, typically expressing support for Bernie Sanders and derision for Hillary Clinton, along with “clearly trying to divide the Democratic Party and lower voter turnout.” News Feeds are a bit of a mystery: They present themselves as local news aggregators, with names such as @OnlineMemphis and @TodayPittsburgh, and the news they link to is typically legitimate. Hashtag Gamers specialize in playing hashtag games (e.g.,LessInterestingBooks might give rise to the tweet “Waldo’s Right Here”); many of their tweets are harmless wordplay in the spirit of the games, but some are socially divisive, in the style of Right Trolls or Left Trolls. And Fearmongers, relatively rare in the data set, spread news about a fake crisis, such as salmonella-contaminated turkeys around Thanksgiving, or the toxic chemical fumes described at the beginning of the New York Times Magazine article about the Internet Research Agency.
“In this data we can see, from hour to hour, how they’re using their human capital to move from one type of account to another type of account,” “We can really look at the structure of what the Russian agency was doing.” – FiveThirtyEight.com
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-were-sharing-3-million-russian-troll-tweets/?ex_cid=story-facebook
Porter’s right—the Russians are using fake accounts to trick right-wingers like Jason to spread more inflammatory rhetoric about Democrats. Jason falls for it and floats the false suggesting that we Democrats would sell out our country to the Russians. Sorry, Jason: that’s Paul Erickson’s gig. That’s the NRA’s gig. That’s Trump voters’ gig. That’s the Republican Party’s gig.
Russian republican senators continue to surrender and denounce our intelligence community. So Un-American. Now Ron Paul (Russian) from Kentucky, the curly headed surrender monkey, is packing his bags to go see about maybe an audition for another pee tape.
“Paul published an opinion column in Politico on July 16, the day of the Helsinki summit, arguing that fellow Republican Trump was right to meet with Putin. He also said then that he would be traveling to Russia seeking “to discuss common ground with their leaders and help prevent further, unnecessary escalation of tensions.”
Next week’s visit would be the second U.S. Republican congressional trip to Moscow within several weeks. A delegation of senators and House members traveled there in early July.
Generally a non-interventionist on foreign policy matters, Paul has said repeatedly that he believes it is a good idea for the United States to speak to its adversaries rather than rush toward conflict.
Like Trump, he has expressed skepticism about U.S. intelligence agencies, which concluded that Russia sought to interfere in the election two years ago to boost Trump’s chances of defeating the Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton.” https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-senator-meeting/senator-paul-to-meet-russian-deputy-foreign-minister-august-6-ifax-idUSKBN1KN1NJ
Actually, the Reuters report of the early July meeting, had our own Confederate dressed, John Thune to hold hands with the folks who have invaded our country. Wow, I wonder if Ron Paul will wear a gray suit with a red tie. I can hear Camptown Races playing in the background.
“Well, I came down there with my hat caved in
Oh I’ll go back home with my pocket full of tin oh doo-dah day
Goin’ to run all night, goin’ to run all day
I’ll bet my money on the bobtail nag, somebody bet on the bay.
Well, the Camptown ladies sing this song doodah doodah
Ah the Camptown race track’s five miles long oh doo-dah day
Goin’ to run all night, goin’ to run all day
I’ll bet my money on the bobtail nag, somebody bet on the bay.
Songwriters: Pat Irwin / Steven Foster”
When I heard that Rand Paul backed President Trump’s Helsinki performance, I wanted to know what job he was after in Trump’s cabinet. Who was he going to replace?
Now, when I hear about Rand Paul heading to Moscow, all I can think of is that he knows that there’s gold in them thar hills. He’s gonna come back with his pockets full of cash. Never, ever trust a libertarian: their whole ethos is “me first”.
Ms. Fisher, I do believe you are correct. Confederate Thune went there on the 4th of July, no less, looking like he was having a board meeting with Dan Nelson, so we have a pretty good idea. Now we know that Putin is using ICE to capture his real Russian opponents in the United States to deport them back to re education as the Chinese call those camps. These 40 per centers have got to go.
New York Times 08/02/2018, The Russian surrender is completely known by everyone except Confederate Thune, Confederate Paul and the rest of the surrender monkeys including The Big Confederate, trump.
“WASHINGTON — Top national security officials vowed Thursday to defend American elections against what they called real threats from Russia only weeks after President Trump seemed to accept President Vladimir V. Putin’s denials of interference during a summit meeting in Finland.
After the meeting, Mr. Trump said he had not meant to endorse Mr. Putin’s denial of election meddling, but insisted that the culprit behind the intrusion“could be other people.” A few days later, he asserted that the idea of any meddling by Russia was “all a big hoax.”
Remember, our NOem is also a big surrender monkey along with Comrade Rounds and the smiley Comrade Dusty. These people do not deserve to call themselves representatives of the people as they only represent 40 per cent of us all or just the surrender monkeys.
Retiring Va wingnut one term congressman claims- https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/charlottesvilles-gop-lawmaker-reveals-fbi-told-russian-meddling-led-last-years-fatal-unite-right-rally/
Russians. The Shadow knows they’re everywhere, they’re everywere.
Did anyone know a Drumpf controlled company owns the National Enquirer?
Ever wrote:
Now, when I hear about Rand Paul heading to Moscow, all I can think of is that he knows that there’s gold in them thar hills. He’s gonna come back with his pockets full of cash. Never, ever trust a libertarian: their whole ethos is “me first”.
I expect you to prove that or offer a written letter of apology to him since he was attached your your fellow Democrats.