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Hawks Reveals Personal Story of Sexual Assault; Noem Ignores Moral Lesson

Democratic candidate for U.S. House Rep. Paula Hawks led off last night’s televised debate by revealing that she was a victim of sexual assault by a man in a position of power over her during college. This revelation had no impact on Republican Rep. Kristi Noem’s support for her party’s nominee, sexual predator Donald Trump. Rep. Noem perpetuates the false equivalency between perceptions of Hillary Clinton’s political agenda and Donald Trump’s own admitted abuse of women:

“That speaks to the character of the individual. And what we’ve seen from Donald Trump even in the past two weeks, his behavior and his language and his words have conveyed to me, that he has no respect for women,” Hawks said.

“I’ve seen for years her put herself before her country over and over again, and that’s not acceptable to me. So I’ll vote for Donald Trump. I don’t defend him or what he’s said, but the 30 years of actions by Hillary Clinton are simply unacceptable,” Noem said [Sammi Bjelland, “Hawks Leads off KELOLAND Debate with Revelation of Her Past Sexual Assault,” KELO-TV, 2016.10.17].

Undeterred by Rep. Noem’s willful blindness to the danger of handing a sexual predator the power of the Presidency, Rep. Hawks elaborates on her story in an op-ed posted by KELO Radio and explains why the absurd horror of the Trump candidacy prompted her to share this story:

Whatever your politics, I think we can agree, this election has been difficult to stomach. In a bizarre sort of way, running for Congress has given me a welcome reprieve from the ugly nature of the Presidential campaigns. Frankly, I’ve been more consumed with trying to run my own race than read every mean tweet by Trump. That all changed last week.

I was raped in college. Sexually assaulted by a person in a position of authority, when I listened to the audio from Trump bragging about what he could do to women because of wealth and fame, it hit me extremely hard.

For a moment — I was brought back to that place 20 years ago — alone, afraid, violated, embarrassed. Then, I became extremely pissed off. With years of therapy and an incredibly loving family that provided me a support system, I moved on. As much as you can.

This event totally changed the trajectory of my life. From the degree I completed in college to the type of personal relationships I was able to form afterwards, it’s been a dominant feature of who I am and the type of person I’ve become.

Never in a million years did I think I would feel comfortable talking about this publicly. But then, I didn’t think we’d ever have a presidential candidate bragging about sexual assault. Nor did I expect to witness the number of people ready and willing to excuse his behavior.

There are some lines I just don’t believe we, as a society, should cross. Supporting a sexual predator just because he might sign your bill into law is one of them. A man who brags about sexual assault is a man incapable of leadership. Those enabling him have already proven they cannot hold him responsible for the most reprehensible of acts. If we condone this behavior in our most important elected office, we enable it in our workplaces and at our colleges.

In the last week, I’ve read stories about a disgusting, heinous assault against a pregnant woman, a young girl being raped on the way home from school and a group of teenage girls being followed in Garretson. All right here in South Dakota. Ask your sister or mom or daughter. Most will have a story about someone being too close or being followed in a mall or on a walk in a park.

Sexual assault is real. Rape is real. We need to pay attention to these stories.

When we talk about the dysfunction in our country, I think we need to start by setting some basic standards for ourselves, for our political parties, for the people we support. We are role models and we should strive to be good ones. The example we set does matter. It should matter [Rep. Paula Hawks, op-ed, KELO Radio, 2016.10.18].

Paula Hawks’s story matters. Michelle Obama’s words matter. The moral example set by our President matters… to everyone but Kristi Noem. It’s time to end Donald Trump’s political career. It is also time to end Kristi Noem’s.


  1. Steve Parson 2016-10-18 13:31

    Pathetic. You are all really sad. Looking forward to Hawks losing BIG.

  2. mike from iowa 2016-10-18 14:27

    [Alas, the comment section starts off with an error: the “toast” Mike from Iowa cites is fake. Please disregard. —CAH]

    Ms Noem- here is a transcript of the Donald’s toast to his well built daughter and her Jewish hubby at their wedding reception. Please note how he manages to insult most persons of color and pats himself on the back for being himself. You’ll just love Drumpf’s stated love for his daughter and what he’d do with her if she wasn’t his daughter. I’m sure you convey similar messages to your own children. Enjoy. :)

  3. Vance Feyereisen 2016-10-18 14:47

    Two thoughts here.
    1. mfi, that toast almost makes one ill.
    2.The Hawks op-ed was the best I have ever noted on the subject.

  4. mike from iowa 2016-10-18 15:06

    Yes and Yes, Vance.

  5. Roger Elgersma 2016-10-18 15:38

    Kristi was interviewed on the news about what type of role model Trump would be. Thinking only of herself and not all the youth who follow role models, she said, ‘Since Jesus Christ is my role model this will not affect me.’ Does she not care or realize that the president is a role model and that Trump would be a real bad role model? Does she only care about bringing her conservative bills to the pres to sign? Using your Christianity to justify others serious problems was just not at all an intelligent response.

  6. Eve Fisher 2016-10-18 15:53

    Well, if Jesus Christ is Noem’s role model, then what would Jesus do? Vote for a sociopathic conman who’s gone out of his way to insult Mexicans, Hispanics, Jews, blacks, and women? Vote for a man who continually stiffs the people who work for him? Vote for a man who brags about himself constantly? Vote for a man whose bragging is only outmatched by his whining about how everyone’s out to get him? I don’t think so.

  7. jerry 2016-10-18 17:02

    I voted for Paula already, and would highly recommend anyone who gives a care about this country to do the same. The problems with sexual assault is that most judges are men and they really do not quite get the gist of girls begin life with the great hope that we all have. They trust that adults and those men in their lives will live up to their capacity as protectors. Here is a just decided case in Montana where the father raped his 12 year old daughter several times, was caught in the act by the mother, admitted it in court and will serve 30 days in jail. Think I am bs ing you, Only a white man could get his hands powder puffed in a corrupted system like we deem fair and just. Paula, can you help change the system to rid ourselves of these pain the ass judges and those who support them? We surely no NOem will do nothing as she is clueless.

  8. Richard Schriever 2016-10-18 17:02

    There is not a repentant hair on DJ Trump’s entire physical being. WWJD indeed.

  9. mikeyc, that's me! 2016-10-18 17:55

    That took a great amount of courage, Paula.
    We already cast our votes for you. You go, girl!

  10. Don Coyote 2016-10-18 18:16

    @Jerry: “Paula, can you help change the system to rid ourselves of these pain the ass judges and those who support them? We surely no NOem will do nothing as she is clueless.”

    Because South Dakota Congressional candidate Paula Hawks interjecting herself into Montana politics will accomplish …. what?. Judge McKeon was retained in his last election with 76% of the vote. He’ll stand unopposed again in 2018 if nobody runs against him. I’d say let the Montana voters decide whether to retain him. Maybe you should spend some time in Montana in 2018 and campaign against him since you feel so strongly.

  11. Ben Cerwinske 2016-10-18 18:49

    MFI: That toast wasn’t real. But it’s shocking that it’s almost believable…

  12. Roger Cornelius 2016-10-18 19:11

    Nobody should be surprised with Kristi’s insensitivity on sexual assaults on women, remember she voted against the Women Against Violence Act, twice!

  13. mike from iowa 2016-10-18 19:17

    Ben-who says the toast wasn’t real?

  14. gtr 2016-10-18 19:26

    We can be so fortunate to have a US House of Representative as Paula Hawks. Get your friends and family to Vote for Paula. If they are not registered to vote, they have until Monday, October 24 to do so. We can’t let Noem get back in for another 2 years with her Trump values!

  15. jerry 2016-10-18 19:45

    Oh boy, here we go. That Montana article was about abuse in general. It is epidemic in this country perpetuated by folks like this judge. Happens all the time, that was the point. Of course you take issue with it because it offends you because you know that old punkin head is running for president and that is all part of his sop. NOem thinks she can have it both ways cause she did her thing with the trafficking deal, which was good, but supports punkin head, so she cannot have it both ways. Of course, I meant Trump as punkin head because the dude is like orange. Damn, what is it with him and John Boehner having the same punkin look? Is that all Halloween prep or what?

  16. jake 2016-10-18 20:05

    Thankfully, SoDak has the choice this year between these two. Three weeks will tell the story.
    Paula has already won in my opinion–taking the high road talking at length of the very visible character flaws of this thing called Trump that’s a ‘Wannabe POTUS’ ! And yet DENIER NOEM’ stays true to the G(rab)O(ur)P(-***) position of the party of “NO” to anything to do with Obama, Clinton,
    progressive ideas, liberal thinking or common sense. Their ‘bath’ is coming on Nov 8th!!!! Hopefully, after this election this Republican hierarchy recovers into a party that rejects the lie of Limbaugh etc; that has led them to where they are today.
    Paula Hawks your opening statement in that debate took GUTS!

  17. grudznick 2016-10-18 20:10

    Damn shame about that Ms. Hawks, and also about that bossturd Mr. Trump. But let us face the facts, Ms. Noem is the better choice and will win. Ms. Noem has the grudznick stamp of approval. Mark my words, and thank me later.

  18. NikB 2016-10-18 20:49

    I’m proud of Paula coming forward. She has my vote. Noem doesn’t care about herself, which is why she is unable to care for others, like farmers ya know? And the rest of South Dakota. She missed so many votes she should be fired!

  19. Don Coyote 2016-10-18 21:13

    @Jerry: No, that Montana article was limited in it’s entirety to the Martin Blake case and the perceived light sentencing handed down by the judge. Period. It didn’t touch on anything approaching a discussion on general abuse, an epidemic of abuse or of incest in this country. If Hawks were by some chance elected to Congress, I can’t think of one thing she could possibly do to rectify this situation in Montana as you wrongly suggest. This is a popularly elected state judge that Congress has no oversight of.

    While Trump yet again displayed his buffoonish and adolescent self with his crass and offensive remarks, I certainly can’t equate them with the incest rape of a 12yo. It’s ironic while the Outrage Brigade is besides themselves with a buffoon’s braggadocio and the tepid support of his candidacy by politicians of his party, they don’t see themselves as supporters of a candidate who hasn’t hesitated taking substantial donations for her “foundation” from countries that engage in the daily physical abuse of women and deny them their basic human rights. A pox on both your houses.

  20. John Kennedy Claussen, Sr. 2016-10-18 21:14

    Say what you want about Representative Noem’s deplorable and continual support for Donald Trump. At least she has a consistency on that position, which is truly lacking, when reviewing Senator Thune’s vacillating support for the 2016 Republican Presidential ticket, however…

  21. jerry 2016-10-18 21:28

    I agree Coyote, sexual abuse is really not a problem for you then. It really does not matter who or why or where the abuse happens then, you think it comes down to really not solving the problem or even working on it as it has to do with both houses. Brilliant! The real deal is that because the judge is elected, he has carte blanche on what he does on the bench. No question about it, absolute power because of being elected. Hmmm, sounds like fascism to me.

  22. jerry 2016-10-18 21:39

    Geesh Mr. Cerwinske, sounds a little like incest to me when you speak of your daughter in such a disrespectful way. No wonder they avoid embracing him and pull from his grasp. The dude acts and sounds like a predator. This adds to what Paula Hawks revealed about the dangers of being a young woman around predators like this bozo head.

  23. mike from iowa 2016-10-18 22:05

    Perceived light sentencing?????

    He agreed to a 100 year sentence with 75 years suspended. He was supposed to serve a full 25 years, not 43 days. The judge did not appear to be concerned for the 12 year old who was repeatedly raped. He was more concerned with the real victim-the perp because he lost his job and had to register as a sex offender.

  24. mike from iowa 2016-10-18 22:10

    Thanks, Ben. I looked it up and Snopes says the toast was made up. It isn’t like Drumpf never said such things at other times.

    Now all Drumpf wants to talk about is how the election is rigged against him-if he loses. O’Keefe has doctored videos claiming to show Democratic voting fraud. Drumpf’s followers are threatening HRC if she wins. This whole country is going crazy.

  25. Rod Hall 2016-10-18 23:48

    From now on Trump can grab them by their “Billy Bush.”

  26. Jenny 2016-10-19 02:18

    I read that the number of sexual assault calls to the sexual assault hotlines went way up after Trump made that statement.
    Paula Hawks, I’m sure, thought very carefully on whether to tell her sexual assault story. Although an uncomfortable topic, she made the right decision to empower women to always come forward to report their assaults and to not feel ashamed about it.

  27. Sam2 2016-10-19 06:28

    No mention of police report or charges filed. I really question her story after 30 years. I am sorry this is just political fodder. I was voting for Hawks I will now vote for Noem. Noem is the better leader.

  28. caheidelberger Post author | 2016-10-19 06:59

    Wow, Sam2—if you would switch your vote over the mere suspicion that Hawks’s statement about a crime committed against her is nothing more than political fodder, may I also assume that you would switch your vote from Trump to Clinton solely on the basis of his admitted sexually predatory behavior?

    I’m having trouble buying the line that Paula Hawks would make this up. People who suffer a crime like this keep it quiet to avoid further shame. Recall the comment of the former counselor in the Amendment S piece on SDPB Monday: she wouldn’t necessarily want her own son to know she was raped. There’s all sorts of stuff Hawks could make up to win an election that would not involve immediately subjecting herself to this sort of shame (not that a victim should be ashamed of a crime perpetrated by someone else, but that emotional dynamic comes into play). Why go this far?

    Note also that Hawks carefully avoided naming her attacker. That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. That may only mean that Hawks doesn’t want to draw attention to the attacker and instead wants to focus on the issue of sexual violence and the abuse of power.

  29. mike from iowa 2016-10-19 07:24

    Sam2 you forgot to say even if it did happen, she was asking for it.

    Small minded people like you are one of the reasons why girls and women are reluctant to report assaults.

    Drumpf and Sam2 make me ashamed to be a man!

  30. Darin Larson 2016-10-19 07:36

    Sam2– You are a fraud. Ms. Hawks is brave enough to recount her own sexual assault and you call her a liar based upon the fact it has been 30 years? She has to prove herself to you or it never happened? You and attitudes like yours are the reason women don’t come forward. Is it any wonder that victims often remain silent?

    How brave of you to be an anonymous person on the internet tearing down someone with tremendous courage. You can’ t even be honest. You were never voting for Hawks. Try to put yourself in the shoes of a victim of sexual assault and try to understand their plight. Keep your judgment to yourself.

    But I don’t think you give a rip about others. You don’t care about the truthfulness of the story. You are simply a political hack who would say or do anything in support of your political agenda. That makes you deplorable.

  31. Dicta 2016-10-19 08:42

    “No mention of police report or charges filed. I really question her story after 30 years. I am sorry this is just political fodder. I was voting for Hawks I will now vote for Noem. Noem is the better leader.”

    Wait, wait. You are now no longer voting for someone because they talked about a rape they didn’t report to police? Dude, I know personal attacks are taboo here, but there is no other way to put this: you are a garbage human being.

  32. Craig 2016-10-19 08:44

    Sam is just a troll – he had no intention of voting for Hawks and is just using that as an excuse to prop up his candidate. As if anyone who tells a story of a crime should cite the police report or go into detail about their experience right? I assume Sam holds all candidates statements to the same standard, which means of course that when Kristi Noem talks about her father passing away and how they almost lost their farm Sam needs to be requesting bank statements, balance sheets, and a death certificate to verify all the details.

    If Sam actually cared at all about victims of sexual assault he would already know that most victims never report the crime. This isn’t because it isn’t important, but it is because they are often left feeling that nobody will believe them and that nobody will care. They know in most cases it is a matter of their word against the person who did the assault and they know they will be forced to relive the events time and time again as they are interviewed and questioned. At the end of the day, absent of physical evidence or other witnesses, the attacker goes free due to insufficient evidence. And the victim is still broken, only now they are left feeling that the system is broken as well and they will have a distrust for law enforcement and the judicial system.

    Sam just proves that in most cases women who make these claims still aren’t believed. Is it any wonder why so many choose to remain silent when you have this attitude in response?

  33. jerry 2016-10-19 09:00

    Cracks me up this now change of heart from Sammy. I was going to vote for Hawks but since she came out and said she was assaulted, I have changed my mind, to paraphrase. What made Sammy change? I think that folks like Sammy like their womenfolk to be subservient to the man’s needs. Just shut up and wear brown, trudge on, stay barefoot and pregnant and keep the fire going. The last thing in the world they want is someone who has the guts to be honest and to lead. Side note, that is why Sammy and those like him will vote for NOem. Nothing really to see in his statement that we clear thinking people have not heard before. Clinton scares the hell out of them as well. Each time Sammy hears a fearless woman’s name or sees it in print, his testicles draw up in extreme fear. That is why these folks prefer to behave in bully tactics as a group. My theory is that is why they must carry guns as swagger. This is because their bravado has receded and they need some outlying product to show their masculinity. You may not know Sammy but you can see him and those like him in Trump. That sniffing is not a product of coke, it is the product of fear and anxiety. Typical republican male reaction to loosing their place at the top to strong speaking women who can get stuff done.

  34. Dicta 2016-10-19 09:11

    “Typical republican male reaction to loosing their place at the top to strong speaking women who can get stuff done.”

    Ease off.

  35. jerry 2016-10-19 09:30

    Good one.. Ease off.. Truth has a way of coming to the surface. Ease off indeed. Why let a token keep the job when we could have a leader to bring some serious ethics into the Washington that we all claim is broken. We all have seen the do nothing past of NOem. We have given her more than one term to help her find her place. She now wants to leave that place for the greener pastures of Ways and Means to further do nothing other than to pad her own pocket. She has done nothing here so she should get her term limit. Hawks will bring the strength we need to get things done for our state and for our country. Don’t fear strength, fear the ineptitude that we have witnessed during NOem’s tenure.

  36. mike from iowa 2016-10-19 09:40

    and just think of all them rape kits sitting around mildewing because checking DNA for rape cases is such a low priority, especially in red states.

    Drumpf’s deplorables have no problem believing discredited accusers of Bill Clinton.

  37. Dicta 2016-10-19 10:21

    “Good one.. Ease off.. Truth has a way of coming to the surface. Ease off indeed. ”

    Generalizations are super fun until people start making them about you. I called Sammy out on his comment just as you did, but apparently I am afraid of women simply because of the party I am registered to. Your comment was intellectually lazy and you deserve to be called out on it.

  38. Moses11 2016-10-19 11:40

    Trump has created a landslide for Hillary.

  39. jerry 2016-10-19 12:10

    Thanks Mr. Parson for pointedly pointing out that you are as hypocritical as the rest of us. You sir are the man with a vision and that is why you cannot make a choice because of your blindness. Well played sir, well played.

  40. Steve Parson 2016-10-19 12:13

    So for realizing and stating that both candidates suck and #Noneoftheabove is my choice means hypocrisy????

    Well played to you.

  41. mike from iowa 2016-10-19 12:28

    Right wing nut jobs abused Lewinsky far more than any and all Clinton’s ever did.

    Clinton used her for his own gratification. Wingnuts used her and Paula Jones and Kathleen Willey and Gennifer Flowers as part of their vendetta against both Clintons. And,as Drumpf has shown, they are more than willing to use disgraced and proven liars to continue the assault on Clintons, hoping people forget wingnuts are trying to make an Oligarchy out of America.

  42. jerry 2016-10-19 12:31

    No, sir. The realization is that both sides do it is kind of middle school thinking. As a democracy, that is your choice to stay petty with your vote, but it does amuse me. I think that you have long ago made up your mind for Trump and are hoping that some schmuck will see your post and not get it. I am sure that is the case, and yes, I am hypocritical but with the caveat of being able to also be sincere. I have voted for Hillary Clinton because of her strength to further all of our best interests as a nation. I have voted for Paula Hawks also because of her strength and the clarity of her vision for making our state a little better.

  43. mike from iowa 2016-10-19 12:31

    Wingnuts keep bitching that HRC is the most corrupt pol ever to run for the WH. Yet not a single one can find a single indictment or even arrest to show HRC committed any crimes. Just proves that wingnuts aren’t interested in facts or truth.

  44. Steve Parson 2016-10-19 12:38

    Wow. You just proved what I was saying.

    Not voting for Trump.

  45. Steve Parson 2016-10-19 12:46

    Mike, the facts and proof are there. Law was stomped on by HRC and those who clearly are “above” the law.

    Jerry, “used her for his gratification.” Say that to a woman. He also lied under oath and is/was a lawyer. Oh but that doesn’t matter, middle school thinking right?

    Hillary then destroyed Monica. She led the charge.

    And all of you explain it away.

  46. Jenny 2016-10-19 12:48

    Steve, I’m not a Hillary fan and don’t plan to vote for her.
    Many true liberals will leave it blank or vote for Johnson or Stein or write in Bernie.

  47. Roger Cornelius 2016-10-19 13:02

    Throughout this election cycle we have seen the Steve Parson’s mentality and hypocrisy.
    Just like Thune and Noem they start out condemning Donald Trumps’s word and than add “but”.
    The none of the above argument is weak and cowardly and Parson proves it, he posts how bad Hillary is and does not say a disparaging word about Trump. You know what he is really saying, don’t we? Parson has likely to or will vote for Trump, it is crystal clear in his comments, he is just too cowardly to admit it.

  48. Steve Parson 2016-10-19 13:07

    Classic deflection.

    Trump is an idiot and I won’t vote for him.

  49. bearcreekbat 2016-10-19 13:13

    Parson relies on an interesting argument that Hillary and her minions somehow control the law to explain why no indictments or criminal charges have ever been filed against her despite years of criminal activity. With all that power can Parson explain why Hillary was unable to stop the House from impeaching her husband? Why was she unable to stop all the Bengazi hearings seeking to incriminate her? Why wasn’t she able to use her power and get the corrupt FBI to arrest her political opponents?

    This is just confusing. Someone capable of committing federal crimes with impunity, controlling law enforcement, the courts, and all those corrupt executive employees, but she just can’t quite get her detractors arrested or quieted?

  50. jerry 2016-10-19 13:20

    Hmmm, let me check out my sample ballot…Nope, do not see a male attorney in Gary Johnson nor in punkin head. Who ya talkin bout?

    Mr. Parson’s, you apparently have never either loved or have been loved. You see when you have been betrayed by your significant other, you tend to lash out. If anyone destroyed Monica, I would lay the blame on Laura, Drudge, the blonde bomber Kellyanne Fitzgerald Conway, Linda Tripp and the vast array of Clinton haters that shall remain the bottom feeders they are. Hillary Clinton has her warts, so to speak, I have witnessed them over the years. Given that though, I still see the ray of sunshine she has that will further our needs as a nation.

    But you have already pulled the lever for punkin head, so that is that.

  51. Steve Parson 2016-10-19 13:22

    The House did impeach. Fail

    She may be unable to stop the hearings but she was able to stop Comey and the Justice Dept already decided way before not to do anything. All political connections to stay above the law.

    Your last question about arresting her political opponents is not even worth answering.

  52. jerry 2016-10-19 13:44

    Mr. Parson, you can shout at the sun for being so bright as it makes about as much sense as what you just said. Good grief sir, get a grip on reality.

    Speaking of why we need to part with NOem, turns out NOem actually does not really care about women in her zeal for a better position to bring in the money for herself.
    We are now involved more heavily in Mosul with our allies and Ms. NOem wants to hamper that with more games, Time to give her boots the boot and put some sensible in her place.

  53. Steve Parson 2016-10-19 13:47

    I plan on smiling when Noem wins big.

    Reality is lost on you.

  54. jerry 2016-10-19 13:53

    That may be sir, but one thing, my conscience is clean while being amused at the same time. I see Thune now thinks that the broke government is now flush again because he wants money for the Cottonwood Fire. Government small enough to drown in a bathtub??? Naw, just another reminder of middle school antics. I would say to go after the humanoid who started the fire.

  55. mike from iowa 2016-10-19 14:02

    Prove it, Steve P. you can’t prove any of that because none of it is true.

    What is true is HRC did not get an alleged rapist off the hook and then laugh about it.

    Paula Jones case was thrown out of court-

    Bill Clinton raped me-Juanita Broaddrick- Here Is Juanita Broaddrick’s Affidavit That Destroys Trump’s Attack On Hillary Clinton
    By Sarah Jones on Sun, Oct 9th, 2016 at 1:27 pm
    In a sworn affidavit on Dec 23, 1998, Juanita Broaddrick denied an “unsubstantiated, hearsay claim” made by the Paula Jones’ legal team that Bill Clinton had invited her (as Jane Doe #5) to a hotel room and forced her to have sex.

    Kathleen Willey –

    Even Linda Tripp made it abundantly clear that Willey pursued a romance with Clinton.

  56. bearcreekbat 2016-10-19 14:17

    Parson, then are you saying Hillary’s power is limited to controlling only the FBI, the Justice Department, and state law enforcement? Is that why she has never once been charged with a crime despite your assertion that “the facts and proof are there?”

    Can you explain when and how she was able to get control of the FBI, Justice Department, and other law enforcement? And since you apparently don’t contend that she has enough power to silence her critics, that raises a question about the extent of her power over the FBI, Justice Department, and state and local law enforcement? Is she only able to force FBI agents and federal prosecutors to allow her commit crimes with impunity or does she control other aspects of law enforcement?

    And are you saying that everyone in the FBI and Justice Department is dishonest or corrupt? If not why aren’t the FBI agents and federal prosecutors who are not corrupt coming forward to support your claims?

    I am trying to keep an open mind on your claims about Hillary, but there are so many seeming contradictions in the idea that one individual can exercise such powers over institutions as large as the FBI and the United States Department of Justice. And if your theory is true, wouldn’t your angst be more appropriately aimed at all those corrupt FBI agents and DOJ prosecutors rather than at Hillary? After all, given your assertion that “the facts and proof are there” aren’t these FBI agents and federal prosecutors engaging in criminal conduct and violating their oath of office?

  57. Eve Fisher 2016-10-19 14:34

    Let’s sum up the conservative mindset: “Hillary is a supervillain in her superlair, with superpowers that make her invisible and invulnerable to all aspects of law enforcement. Hillary has committed felonies on such a massive scale that law enforcement runs and hides under a table whenever she drives by in her bitchmobile. Hillary has had multiple affairs with both men and women, and she murders those who would tell you who what when and where. Hillary is so duplicitous and dangerous that she makes Putin crap his pants, which is why we desperately need Trump to be President so that we can be at peace with Russia. Hillary is not truly human, although she is suffering from a stroke / concussion / eye problems / MS / multiple illnesses that make her unfit to be President. Hillary is a reptilian alien, a robotic arm of the New World Order, a woman of such evil that no one has ever yet actually caught her in her variety of crimes, which means she has done even more of them than we ever thought. Hillary would be the antichrist, except we all know that he will be a man born in the Middle East. Of course, she could also have been actually born a man in the Middle East, because all of her documents must have been falsified, if we could only find them, because there has to be something there! We know it’s true!” Followed by a long hissing sound…

  58. Roger Cornelius 2016-10-19 18:37

    Donald Trump has invited President Obama’s estranged half brother to the debate, I’m not sure why since the President is not running.
    If only Hillary had invited Donald Trump’s 13 year old rape victim and all the sexual assault victims that have spoken out in past weeks.

  59. Porter Lansing 2016-10-19 19:42

    Any voter that would respond positively to bringing this group to the debate, as proof of something, is already voting for Don Trump. Everyone else sees it as a rather pathetic desperation.

  60. jerry 2016-10-19 19:44

    Reuters has just reported that 2 American advisers were shot and killed in Afghanistan. This is all happening while Rep. NOem has voted with her deplorable comrades to put severe restrictions on the Defense funding for those theaters of war. The poison pill she supports guts women’s rights. Git’r out of there.

  61. Porter Lansing 2016-10-19 19:45

    Good one, Mike. How’s your health?

  62. mike from iowa 2016-10-19 19:57

    Gout is much better. Finally got a prescription that isn’t harming kidneys. I will gladly trade some young fella two weak legs and a bad lower spine for Shania Twain on the hoof. Thanks for asking, Porter.

  63. Porter Lansing 2016-10-19 20:43

    Glad to hear it, Mike. ??

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