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Aberdeen Groping Story Grabs White Supremacists’ Attention

Donald Trump brags about grabbing women’s genitals against their will, and he’s fit to be President. A Somali immigrant tries to grab one woman’s genitals, and it’s a sensational crime that anti-immigrant groups and other white supremacists point to as another reason to build Trump’s wall (which is a metaphor for fear of brown people).

The Aberdeen American News reports Liban Mohamed will be sentenced January 30 for attempted sexual contact with a person incapable of giving consent:

Brown County State’s Attorney Chris White said Mohamed approached the 16-year-old girl, who receives support services from Aspire. The girl was sitting outside of one of Aspire’s group homes in July. White said that when an Aspire employee noticed Mohamed talking to the girl, the worker told Mohamed to leave, but he refused.

“He asked the victim to marry him and ran his hand up her leg and went to touch her vaginal area,” White said.

That’s when the worker pulled back the chair the girl was sitting in, White said.

He said the girl can say her name and when she’s hungry, but cannot otherwise talk [Elisa Sand, “Sentencing Later This Month for Man Convicted of Attempted Sexual Contact,” Aberdeen American News, 2017.01.03].

While the white-folks-first crowd goes ape calling for deportation, walls, and other responses to what they find hip to label “white genocide,” I’m not hearing Trumpists wearing down their keys and screens over sex crimes by guys named Wade Alan Steele, Joseph Dawley, and Timothy Bariteau or the fact that “sex offenders comprise the only criminal population in which white people are represented roughly in proportion to their numbers in the general population.”

But perhaps in their concern for women’s rights, the folks going ape over this crime-of-the-week story will join the Women’s March on Washington this month.

92 Comments

  1. cher kolb 2017-01-04 09:38

    This is not a trump issue. This is in our home town. For you to make this about trump is disgusting. This female had no way to defend herself! See the difference??

  2. jerry 2017-01-04 10:39

    Well, the guy was found guilty and will receive sentencing. There is no difference of color or immigration status for doing such a crime and you must do the time. It probably will not be to long behind the walls though, for any of these fellers. The inmate population only knows the crime, they could care what color you are, they will seek you out and make your life or what is left of it, intolerable. These guys are dead men walking from the hands of those abused.

  3. James 2017-01-04 12:13

    The victim wasn’t 16, she’s 31.

  4. caheidelberger Post author | 2017-01-04 12:25

    Ah, Cher, so you’re saying that if President-Elect Trump grabs your genitals, it’s not a crime or reason for alarm, because you can defend yourself.

  5. jerry 2017-01-04 12:48

    Wow, James, how can you make a mistake like that regarding the reporting of the age? To me, that only inflames the already terrible situation of child abuse. The paper should print a retraction to the lie then. It does not change the fact that the man was found guilty though, it just changes the facts of public opinions.

  6. caheidelberger Post author | 2017-01-04 12:58

    Paper says 16, James. What reliable source do you have that contradicts that statement?

  7. Roger Cornelius 2017-01-04 12:59

    This is very much a Trump issue, during the waning days of the campaign there 10-12 women that came forward saying that Trump either groped or sexually assaulted them.
    The only difference in their stories is that Liban Mohamed got caught and was convicted and likely will be deported and Donald Trump got away with it and even bragged about it.
    The idea that Aberdeen American News tried to cover-up this story is bunk. There are many court cases that aren’t reported until they go to trial and the time between the crime and court date is often far apart.

  8. caheidelberger Post author | 2017-01-04 13:01

    And this is a Trump issue. It is about behavior that our President-Elect said (and which many of his supporters who are circulating this story seem to agree) is acceptable for a rich and powerful white man.

  9. Roger Cornelius 2017-01-04 13:03

    Cory, the WND link you provided says the woman was 31 years old.

  10. David Newquist 2017-01-04 15:07

    The American News corrected the age cited in its story.

    Aside from the fact that the WND is a major purveyor of fake news and other forms of mendacity, its question about why this story did not receive prior coverage is legitimate. The incident would have been posted on the police log and the court docket. When another immigrant approached some children in their yard and got cold-cocked by an over zealous adult, AAN put it on the front page and did days of follow-up. http://www.aberdeennews.com/police-man-arrested-after-trying-to-enter-vehicle-saturday/article_315ff5a8-8405-11e6-a40a-2ff196c8d5bc.html

    Justice projects have noted for some years that the Aberdeen Police Department and the State’s Attorney office are quite selective in the charges they bring forward and in the choice of evidence used to support them. Their records and the reporting of them in the press has been an issue in government transparency for many, many years.

    The WND besmirching of the mayor, Lutheran Social Services, and Demkota Beef gets into accusations that are matters that might make it on the court dockets, if they want to push it.

  11. mike from iowa 2017-01-04 16:04

    Kids in school have been heard to say, “grab them by the P****Y,” Wonder where they got that from? The party of so called family values.

  12. mike from iowa 2017-01-04 16:06

    From the chemical toilet (forgive for polluting the stream)

    Liban Mohamed, 39, was in the United States for only about a week when he tried to force himself on a 31-year-old woman with severe disabilities. He is not a U.S. citizen, but whether he will be deported in the wake of his conviction remains unclear.

  13. Treefrog 2017-01-04 20:41

    Statistics don’t lie. The fact is that browns and blacks commit more crimes than whites. That said, whites commit more crimes than Asians by a little.

    Why not keep our culture and let the Somali’s and Arabs stay where they are with their own culture?

  14. jr 2017-01-05 09:20

    Treefrog, Statistics are only as good as the reliability of the data and underlying factors. Whites are not less likely to commit crimes, they are less likely to be investigated or prosecuted. Your culture is not from here, it was brought here. Don’t bring your ignorance here as if you know what you are talking about. If this story is true he should be prosecuted but i have my doubt on the validity of this story. There are too many changing variables and supposed lack of court records. Crawl back under your bridges trolls.

  15. cher kolb 2017-01-05 10:06

    Roger, where are them ladies now? If indeed that did happen, they should have spoke up right when it happened. This refugee done actions against this poor lady and you are sliding that to Trump? So, if I go out aND shoot ppl, I can blame it on the other shooters and that will make it ok?? I think NOT. This is not a Trump issue, it’s a refugee issue.

  16. Bill Dithmer 2017-01-05 11:08

    We’ve been having this same discussion on fb with the fine folks that post on Gordon Howes place. This is what I’m getting from those post.

    Attention all Christians, the ten commandments have been temporarily suspended for the duration of Trumps presidency.

    We regret any inconvenience this may cause within the faith, but you asked for it, and now you have it.

    You are entering a place in time where immorality becomes moral, lies become truths, and words of hate and intolerance become the voice of reason.

    Welcome to TRUMPLAND, formerly your USof A.

    The Blindman

  17. treefrog 2017-01-05 11:40

    Jr,

    The statistics are from around the world! You can check it out on wikipedia.

    You sound kind of trollish yourself.

  18. Eric 2017-01-05 13:25

    @Treefrog. You’re using Wikipedia as a credible source? Why not use the majority of Facebook’s news services as well?

  19. caheidelberger Post author | 2017-01-05 21:39

    Notice Cher doesn’t do me the courtesy of answering my question… because she can’t, not honestly, not in a way that doesn’t lay bare her bigotry and hypocrisy.

    Cher, no one has confirmed that the criminal in this case is a refugee. Even if he is, this story is no more a refugee story than any of the other sex offense cases I mentioned are stories about how bad white men are.

    This story is more a Trump story than a refugee story, because your desire to make it a refugee story shows the basic fear, bigotry, and hatred of Trump supporters like you.

  20. Roger Cornelius 2017-01-05 22:07

    I had considered answering Cher’s comments directed at me, but one of my New Year’s resolution is not to answer anyone that writes in third grade English.

  21. cher kolb 2017-01-05 23:04

    Yes, this has been confirmed by now the local paper.

  22. cher kolb 2017-01-05 23:07

    The reason why I brought up that he is a refugee, is because our crime has gone up quite a bit because of them. Sorry, that is not racist but fact!!

  23. cher kolb 2017-01-05 23:28

    I’m feel very sorry for the people that cannot get over Trump being the president elect that you have to make this story about Trump. Because trump said something years ago does not give anyone the right to do this. Heck, in girl talk, I have probably said worse. But the talk of others does not mean people can do the actions. With these other women that made accusations about Trump, where are they now? But the fact remains…. crime rate in Aberdeen has gone up because of the refugees. Never has I had a building shot at, a guy climbing a tree to get away from someone shooting at him (just two blocks from my house)because of refugees. Aberdeen used to pride themselves on being virtually crime free. No, not 100% crime free, but very low. We cannot say that anymore now can we??? This is not racist this is fact. I live in Aberdeen and see what is going on. Keep Trump out of this crime issue, unless you are really going to put the blame where the blame belongs. That is Obama bringing the enemy to us. If you do not believe refugees are our enemy, look up all the other countries they have invaded and the trouble they are having. If you still want that here, you do not care about the United States or what we used to be. I have said my peace…. I’m done. I’m not making this into a back and forth argument. If you want to talk further… I’m on FB. Have a great evening.

  24. caheidelberger Post author | 2017-01-06 05:58

    “our crime has gone up quite a bit because of them”—another baseless xenophobic statement. Lots of people Cher’s color commit lots of crimes, but she’s not talking about throwing herself out of this community.

    One black man gropes one woman, and Cher wants to overhaul immigration law. One rich white man brags about groping women, says he’s entitled to grope women, and Cher votes for him for President. Racism and hypocrisy.

  25. cher kolb 2017-01-06 06:21

    Cory, I do not hold much respect for what you say. When my husband and I seen you at the fair, you were upset at the people that disagreed with you, waving your hands in the air like a 3 year old having a tantrum and saying we are afraid of the “brown people”. Let’s grow up now, put your big boy undies on and face reality. There has been more than one refugee crime. Yes, people of my color do commit crimes. When was the last time we ran a person over? Ran a guy up a tree because we are shooting at them? Tried to get in with mothers driving down the street in a mini van with children inside? Tried to grope the disabled? Thought so…. just proved my point! Thank you

  26. caheidelberger Post author | 2017-01-06 06:25

    No, Cher, I’m upset that you’re an unrepentant racist. The fact that I disagree with racism and other forms of unjust persecution is unavoidable. Your desire to attack me personally is only a distraction from your desire to sow fear and racism on information that is at best incomplete and selective, at worst flatly false.

  27. caheidelberger Post author | 2017-01-06 06:27

    Say, Cher, I must have missed the article in which the Aberdeen American News confirmed that the criminal is a Somali refugee. Can you share the link to that article with us?

  28. cher kolb 2017-01-06 06:33

    Cory, how little you know me to form a judgement like that. I was raised in a black community and went to anot all black school. Moved to SD and my own skin color was racist against me because they say “I act like a black person”. I have friends of all colors, all religions. Just because I do not tike the actions of the refugees does not mean I’m racist. When the man that groped the woman said “this is ok in my country” and didn’t know he was doing anything wrong… speaks volumes of the refugees. They will not change their behavior to conform to our way of living. Me thinking that is NOT ok, is not racist. I have two grandkids that I love dearly and two blocks away they are shooting guns. This is not the Aberdeen I know and love. You may think it is ok…. I do not!

  29. caheidelberger Post author | 2017-01-06 07:04

    I know you as well as you know me, Cher. Focusing on this one crime while ignoring similar crimes by people of your own color and nationality signals racism and xenophobia, both of which, despite your rationalizations and defenses, are irrational and indefensible.

    And since you bring up rhetorical style with regard to my exuberant conversations with people at the Brown County Fair, would you care to compare how I respond to people who disagree with me to how Donald Trump responds to people who disagree with him?

  30. caheidelberger Post author | 2017-01-06 07:06

    And while this should go without saying, I do not think groping, shooting, or other crimes are o.k. I live two blocks from where one of last year’s unsolved drive-by shootings took place. Like every other good citizen of this community, I want the shooters captured and future such crimes prevented. But I also want laws applied constitutionally and consistently.

  31. cher kolb 2017-01-06 08:44

    You called me a racist before I said anything about you. You attacked first but can’t handle it when it’s done back? Seriously grow up!! BTW, if you want to win an election, the people vote you in. If you are against the people… call them racist among other names and think you will win an election, now that is funny. If you think you are so right, try to educate, have meeting to open conversation. If you are just going to call people racist, you will not get far as you have already seen.

  32. mike from iowa 2017-01-06 09:13

    Just because I do not tike the actions of the refugees does not mean I’m racist. When the man that groped the woman said “this is ok in my country” and didn’t know he was doing anything wrong… speaks volumes of the refugees.

    You base your belief that all refugees are the same as the one who groped a woman. Sounds like textbook racism to me. One week in this country isn’t enough time for him to be assimilated- no matter if you believe they should come here speaking English fluently and understanding the constitution. South Dakota and other red states are full of right wing pols who have no idea what is in the constitution and they were born and raised in America. Now, might I suggest you adopt a liberal attitude and try to post on Pat Power’s website and see how far your complaints get?

  33. caheidelberger Post author | 2017-01-06 09:17

    I am handling it, Cher, by asking questions to which you have no honest, logical response.

    Whether I called you a racist before or after you said anything about me does not change the fact that you are a racist.

    I do not view calling you a racist as a campaign tactic designed to help me win an election. I view calling you a racist as a statement of fact.

    Cher, you ask me to “try to educate, have meeting to open conversation.” Isn’t that exactly what I’m doing here, every day?

  34. cher kolb 2017-01-06 09:21

    If it was only a couple ofriends instances, that I could understand. Since it’s not and we don’t know the good from the bad, send them back. We gave them and chance, they failed. I don’t want to risk my grandchildren safety just because some people THANK it’s racist.

  35. mike from iowa 2017-01-06 09:53

    No chance your GKs get killed crossing the street? Riding in a vehicle? Falling off playground equipment? Eating contaminated food? Hit by the falling sky? Accidentally shot by a responsible gun owner? Deliberately shot by a toddler who found gun left lying around by a responsible gun owner?

    Gets an incurable disease and you lost your health insurance? House fire? Earthquake, tornado, blizzard or any other act of god? The choices and chances of losing a GK are endless. Can we send them all back? Just asking.

  36. cher kolb 2017-01-06 11:33

    Mike… are you kidding me? All them things you have mentioned would an accident. I don’t think shooting people on purpose is an accident. Groping a disabled woman is not an accident. Omg, what has this world come to? Your “situations ” and the refugee ACTIONS are totally opposite. You are a very good example of “you can’t fix stupid”. I’m so done with this conversation. The majority of the population agrees with the refugees need to go!! Sorry the rest is not seeing the big picture. If things keep up, then you will… but till then, you can’t see post your noses to see what is really happening… or you don’t live in aberdeen. If you don’t live in aberdeen and see/feel the affects of it. You should not be commenting on issues you know nothing about! Bye!

  37. Roger Cornelius 2017-01-06 12:05

    One of the most gracious intelligent people I met in the past few years is refugee Clara Hart of Sioux Falls. She ran for the legislature and lost but that did not lessen her resolve do good for her new home.
    She recently won an award for being an outstanding substitute teacher.
    Now, I don’t think Clara goes around groping disabled women and breaking laws. Should she be deported for the criminal actions of one refugee in Aberdeen? After all, Cher said, “send them back”.
    Most refugees are probably like Clara, they are excited by their new country and trying to learn how to adapt to the customs and laws of their new home.

  38. mike from iowa 2017-01-06 12:16

    My examples are simply other ways you risk the safety of your GKs.

    I don’t want to risk my grandchildren safety just because some people THANK it’s racist.

    The majority of the population agrees with the refugees need to go!! Sorry the rest is not seeing the big picture. If things keep up, then you will… but till then Have you any polls that show the majority of people agree with you?

  39. bearcreekbat 2017-01-06 12:44

    Cher’s reasoning makes sense, but not as it relates to refugees. This is because people other than refugees commit crimes too. Perhaps we can find something in common that all criminals share and then identify everyone else who shares this trait and send them all away. For example here is one trait that we can agree on that all criminals share:

    They have or had a mother. Under Cher’s reasoning, then, anyone who has or had a mother should be rounded up and sent away.

    Now some might argue that this is over inclusive, but Cher has made the point: “Since . . . we don’t know the good from the bad, send them back.”

    Check and mate. Well done Cher. And if you are a human rather than a mechanical robot troll-bot from Russia, you must have had a mother, so bye, bye.

  40. Porter Lansing 2017-01-06 13:15

    Ms. Kolb – Aren’t we lucky to live in a free country? I love it here. Do you know that the things you’ve said would get you arrested in many countries for “inciting discrimination”? It’s not a big crime and you don’t usually get put in jail but the crime and the criminal are publically acknowledged.
    But we do love our “American” freedom of speech.
    Now, you’ve been called a racist and you say that you’re not a racist. There’s a simple test used all over that will tell if you are or aren’t. And this test is for everyone who’s ever been labeled as such.
    Would you walk up to a group of immigrants and tell them to their faces, “The majority of this town says you have to go!” If you do it, you’re not a racist. If you won’t you are. Tell us whether you’re confident that what you’ve said won’t be taken with anger by the group you’re addressing and you’ll get your ass beat or tell us why you won’t do it. Same test for black people, Native people, poor people, Mexican people, Asian people, Jewish people and all down the list of minorities.

  41. treefrog 2017-01-06 14:27

    SD has a very low crime rate. My niece continually complains about the crime rate now that the immigrants have been allowed in town.

    The black and brown communities are in denial (I’d exclude hispanics.) Doesn’t matter what statistics you quote, whether it be from the FBI, or from worldwide statistics compiled by the publicly peer reviewed wikipedia. People like caheidelberger will deny there’s any difference in crime rates between black/brown and whites/asians.

    You can’t fix a problem if you don’t acknowledge it. The record number of dead black people in Chicago are all a fantasy, right? Either they didn’t kill that many of themselves or there has to be at least that many whites killed by whites too.

    Pathetic liberals.

  42. Porter Lansing 2017-01-06 14:36

    @frog … Not to deny the cred of your niece or your other sources but the nationally recognized conservative think tank says you’re a bit off the beam. PS – You can’t fix a problem if you make up stuff about it that’s wrong.
    https://www.cato.org/blog/immigration-crime-what-research-says

  43. mike from iowa 2017-01-06 14:51

    Geez, I thought brown people are the Hispanics, Latins, Puerto Ricans and non-American Indians.

  44. treefrog 2017-01-06 14:51

    Porter – so you’re denying the murders in Chicago? Or that there somehow must be as many white on white murders? Or the mass rapes/gropes of the immigrants in Germany and other European countries?

    There’s a problem, Porter. Blacks/browns are far more dangerous to be around than whites/asians.

    But it really doesn’t matter. Trump will shut down the dangerous immigrants so you can rant all you want.

  45. treefrog 2017-01-06 14:53

    Mike – Arabs and their religion commanding to kill anyone that doesn’t convert or pay a tax.

  46. Porter Lansing 2017-01-06 15:07

    Frog … There’s a solution to Chicago’s violence problem (which has been high ever since Al Capone) and the solution if from Chicago’s black police chief. Do you want to hear it? Wait for it … GUN REGULATION
    If I walked around with the attitude you haul with you, I’d be afraid of black people and brown people, too. But I don’t and I’m not and I live in a city of 4 million people. How many black and brown people are you around? PS … I already rant all I want and so do you. You’ve got one thing right, though. What you say “really doesn’t matter” and you yourself said it. he he

  47. treefrog 2017-01-06 15:24

    Chicgo/Illinois already has gun control.

    Proof that countries with strong gun control laws have the same murder rate:

    Murder rates of countries with strong gun control
    France 1.4
    Germany 0.8
    Austria 0.9
    Italy 0.9
    Uk 1.0
    Poland 1.2

    United States White population murder rate: 1.1


    There are more alcohol related deaths than gun shootings. Philosophical proof that alcohol is no different than guns. Please read entire proof before commenting:

    People want to own guns.
    Some gun owners kill other people
    Therefore, background checks should be done on everyone before a gun purchase.

    People want to drink alcohol.
    Some alcohol drinkers kill other people via drunk driving, murder, etc.
    Therefore, background checks should be done on everyone before an alcohol purchase.
    —————–

    Society will always have Cains. Gun laws won’t help anything. They will find another way to kill people. The only thing you are doing by creating more gun control laws is moving us closer to living in a safe padded room with no danger, no freedom, and a very boring life.

    There are more alcohol related deaths than gun shootings.

  48. cher kolb 2017-01-06 15:57

    Regardless of the people saying I’m am racist… here is the bottom line. Look at all the other countries that have taken in refugees. Berlin, Germany, Sweden and so on. The people that live in Sweden said it happened slowly, by the time they felt the affects, they were sitting ducks. Nothing they could do to stop it. Looting, riots, their out of control behavior and demanding their laws. If it means that I’m racist for not wanting America to be ruled over by muslims, their riots, their demands…. so be it. If I’m racist because I will not sit down and quietly let them try to get into vehicles with woman drivers, chasing and shooting people, running over people with their vehicles, groping the disabled… then I guess I’m racist. Millions and millions of people agree with me. BUILD THAT WALL!!!! I refuse to quietly sit back and allow them to start their riots in my hometown, I will not sit quietly and allow them to abuse our disabled, I will not sit quietly and become Sweden, Germany or Berlin. There are two types of people… ones that sit back and let things just happen and they will allow it. And there are people like me that will stand up and say NO!! I will not quietly sit back and watch them riot, demand islam faith, demand we follow their faith. I will fight my hardest to prevent this. History repeats itself unless something changes… we will NOT be the next country that says we are sitting ducks and there is nothing we can do. You can sit back and allow it, I will NOT. Again, if trying to do my part in protecting the United States is racist… then so is everyour person in the military that fought for our freedom! Your freedom is due to ppl that will stand up and protect. Obviously, we all can see who that is. And I’m a female!!! I truly feel sorry for the “men” commenting that I am racist. Again BUILD THAT WALL AND KEEP AMERICA SAFE.

  49. Roger Cornelius 2017-01-06 16:01

    Porter here is the test I use to find out if someone is racist.
    If they say, “I am not a racist, but…..”
    The next words of hate out of their mouths will be directed at a minority.

  50. mike from iowa 2017-01-06 16:17

    Majority of Muslim immigrants don’t come to America by way of that wall. You weren’t talking about Muslims. You want all immigrants to go back home. Like it or not, Syrian refugees are vetted for two years before they get a chance to come to America. Somali guy is not likely to be Syrian. IMHO your whole song and dance is full of holes, but at DFP you are allowed the courtesy to speak your mind. Speak away.

  51. cher kolb 2017-01-06 16:21

    I think you are mistaken hate for facts. The facts are out there, search it yourself. Protecting is not hate nor fear. But I’m seriously tired of getting alerts on my phone saying there is another comment, reading that comment, clickingredients on the link, finding the comment box, saying my peace. As I said before… if you really honestly want to have a non bashing adult discussion…. I’m on FB. Just message me. I’m no longer going to comment on. Here. But hey, on a bright note…. we got to the root of the discussion and it’s not Trump. That’s a huge improvement peeps. Keep up the good work. Cher is now over and out. Have a great evening and weekend. :)

  52. mike from iowa 2017-01-06 16:24

    treefrog-your murder rates by country are useless as written. France has a murder rate of 1.4 treefogs per tree? Read entire what proof? Alcohol could be 86 proof (43% alcohol). What does have to do with murder rates?

    You need to take a break and reorganize your thoughts here. You aren’t helping your case.

  53. Roger Cornelius 2017-01-06 16:30

    Anybody counting?
    How many times now did Cher say that she just posted her last comment?

  54. treefrog 2017-01-06 16:48

    Sorry you, Mike from Iowa (and probably all the others on your side), can’t understand mathematical/philosophical proofs and statistics.

    I offer statistics, facts, proofs, and you offer argumentum ad hominem. Further comment here would be like arguing with a rock.

  55. bearcreekbat 2017-01-06 16:53

    cher, I would like to get serious for a minute. When you say you “truly feel sorry for the “men” commenting that” you are “a racist” have you considered how they may have come to such a conclusion?

    Merriam-Webster’s defines the noun “race” as

    “a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock”

    and defines “racism” as

    “a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.”

    Excluding or deporting a fellow human being merely because he originated from a particular “family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock” diminishes the value of the person excluded, and evidences a belief that the “family, tribe, people or nation” in which he was born is evil or otherwise somehow inferior.

    Someone who diminishes the human value of others based on this factor alone suggests that she has “a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.”

    Given these definitions cher, can you see why someone reading your comments might conclude that you meet the dictionary definition of a racist? And if you truly believe they are wrong and that you are not a “racist” can you explain what part of the above definitions don’t fit your comments here.

  56. mike from iowa 2017-01-06 17:12

    treefrog, you are a moron and I mean that in the worst possible way. Explain those so called stats will you? You need qualifiers to explain the murder rates and you have none.

    Let’s take America’s white murder rate of 1.1 what? One point one treefrog murdered for every ? Here is where you need your qualifier-right where the Question mark is so we have some idea what the actual murder rate is being compared with. I am not going to explain this to you again. Fix it or go home!

  57. Porter Lansing 2017-01-06 18:02

    @Roger … I believe she just wants everyone to go to her Facebook page and see where she works, so every minority group (and their supporters) she’s offended can go down to the bank where she works and “picket the bigot” on the sidewalks until her boss needs to make a decision. What else could it be? Freedom of speech is a two sided sign, Ms. Kolb.

  58. treefrog 2017-01-06 18:11

    Mike from Iowa – The units are relative and if you had anything more than an a 2nd grade understanding of math you’d know that. But it’s 1.1 murders per 100k. Whites in the USA have a murder rate of 1.1 per 100,000 people (in case you don’t understand “k”). Murder in Germany (all whites until recently) is 0.8 murders per 100k. Poland 1.2 all white murders per 100k. So in those countries with the strict gun control you seek, the murder rate is the same when comparing apples to apples.

    Don’t tell me to go home you 3rd grade reject. Graduate from 4th grade before talking to me again. How’s that? Go ahead and shoot some more argumentum ad hominem. It only shows your ignorance.

  59. mike from iowa 2017-01-06 18:16

    Yea, horndog. You finally got a qualifier so people know what the flock your stats were trying to show. Now go get a cookie and take a nap.

  60. treefrog 2017-01-06 18:18

    Also Mike from Iowa – I forgot I’m talking to a rock.

    You probably can’t count beyond 10. 100,000 is much, much bigger.

    Also, no way you’ll understand what 1.1 is, but it’s just a little more than 1. Hope that helps.

  61. Porter Lansing 2017-01-06 18:22

    Frog … Not trying to offend you or discredit your math but we need to see where you get those statistics. You see, usually when people with your mindset quote statistics, the statistics come from a source that’s invalid. Let’s see your sources … not that you can’t be believed, just because you say so, ‘ya know buddy.

  62. Porter Lansing 2017-01-06 18:32

    Let’s see the link from the FBI that you get the statistics from.

  63. treefrog 2017-01-06 19:01

    FBI murder rate by race in the US:
    https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex_of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

    Wikipedia U.S. population by race:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_ethnicity_in_the_United_States

    Divide the white murder rate by the white popluation in the U.S. Normalize for 100k to compare to the wikipedia site on world murder rates.

  64. Porter Lansing 2017-01-06 19:14

    And what is your assertion derived from your statistics?

  65. treefrog 2017-01-06 19:22

    Come on Porter.

    The murder rate in Germany is 0.8
    The murder rate in Poland is 1.2
    France 1.4

    Those countries all have strict gun control.

    The murder rate in the U.S. of comparable people is the same even without the gun control you seek. So obviously strict gun control did not improve the murder rate. People will murder at the same rate. They will find knives, cars, whatever they need to murder.

    I also did a philosophical proof on why gun control is not logical.

  66. Porter Lansing 2017-01-06 19:41

    You’re avoiding your assertion from above. You said, ” Blacks/browns are far more dangerous to be around than whites/asians.” Please extrapolate this assertion.

  67. grudznick 2017-01-06 20:13

    This whole thing will keep Mr. Nesiba in a poor light and his leading of the caucuses will be hampered.

  68. Porter Lansing 2017-01-06 20:25

    Does anyone else see the similarity in what TreeFrog says and what another pro-gun, pro Asian, anti-brown immigrant commenter continually says? Many of their phrases and many of their reference links are just too similar to be coincidence. Everyone of course has a right to post anonymously. It’s been proven that it’s easy to use different computers with different IP addresses. But, if you converse with someone enough times it becomes apparent who you’re talking to.

  69. jerry 2017-01-06 20:28

    The murder rate in the US just increased by 5 today with the shootings in Florida by a troubled former military man who had served in Iraq. Mental illness is the problem we continue to face here. The ending of the ACA by NOem and her counterparts will only add more and more to the problems of the mentally ill being able to arm themselves.

  70. grudznick 2017-01-06 20:44

    Mr. Lansing, I do believe you are my friend Sibby wearing a different hat.

  71. Porter Lansing 2017-01-06 20:48

    Yes, I am.

  72. grudznick 2017-01-06 21:05

    Ha! You sure pulled one over on me for a long time there, Mr. Sibby. I would say that for the first time ever you got my goat! Well played, Sibby. Well played.

  73. Porter Lansing 2017-01-06 21:14

    Someone who rants over and over about gun control, abortion and undocumented workers has been quiet lately since the legislature is upcoming. Guess who?

  74. David Newquist 2017-01-09 17:21

    Here is an AAN response to the story that started this thread:
    “And sometimes we just miss it.

    “That’s what happened last week on a court story about an attempted sexual assault in Aberdeen. Readers asked me why we didn’t cover the December trial, where a man was convicted of the crime.

    “We missed it. It was a screw up. Simple as that.

    “No excuses, no conspiracy. It was a mistake. It should have been in the paper sooner.

    “Tuesday last week, after we took an anonymous call asking about the case, we immediately jumped on it, and published a story online by 4:30 p.m., and then in Wednesday’s paper.

    “Should we have had a story in December? You betcha. Did we act quickly when we learned of our error? Yes, we did.

    “Sometimes it takes a call or an email to ask us about a story. Maybe we missed it. Maybe a staff member was out sick and it was lost in the shuffle. Maybe we jotted a date down wrong.

    “It happens.”

    There are problems with this dismissal. Because the newspaper would have had to miss the story three times, at least.
    1. The paper publishes a daily incident report. The incident never showed up.
    2. The paper publishes arrest reports. That was never reported.
    3. The paper publishes magistrate court arraignments and court dockets. That was never published.

  75. jerry 2017-01-09 18:16

    I wonder why they “immediately jumped on it”. Who did the jumping? This Aberdeen story reminds me of the other hit piece that we saw in Sioux Falls with the media being the police, judge and jury. This was all wrapped up by the ambush set with cameras rolling. This is no longer media. It is what it is, propaganda, meant to inflame.

  76. Porter Lansing 2017-01-09 18:26

    Good one, Professor. More citizens needs to start asking the hard questions in South Dakota. So many are given respect before they’ve earned it and it leads to hidden facts and invented alibis. Preachers, teachers, cops, politicians and newspapers are given way to much “benefit of the doubt” just because of their title.

  77. caheidelberger Post author | 2017-01-10 07:11

    I’m not sure “jumping on it” was a problem here, Jerry. In the Nesiba case, yes, KELO jumped on something that turned out to be no crime but promised sensational imagery. In this case, AAN jumped on a story of a trial and conviction that had already taken place. So the media was not playing police, judge, or jury. Those roles had already been filled, those duties already properly carried out.

    I check the South Dakota sex offender registry this morning and find 77 registrants in Aberdeen. The registry lists race. I count two Indian men, two black men, one Hispanic man, one woman, and 71 white males. Hmm… whom shall we deport?

  78. bearcreekbat 2017-01-10 11:17

    “71 white males” – well there go our stereotypes. Wow, talk about shedding some light – thanks Cory.

  79. ele 2017-01-30 13:27

    Heard that this guy, Liban Mohamed, was sentenced Jan 30. So where’s the up date?

  80. Cory Allen Heidelberger Post author | 2017-01-30 16:17

    Prisoner here in Aberdeen is 40 years old. FBI poster gives birthdate of wanted suspect as January 4, 1986.

  81. Porter Lansing 2017-01-30 16:34

    Anything to keep ele wondering.

  82. Porter Lansing 2017-01-30 16:38

    I had a Somali Uber driver last week that looked just like him, Ele. I think it’s coming down in Aberdeen, soon. Hide, sister.

  83. ele 2017-01-31 12:11

    Thank you Cory. Porter, why does it seem that you have a problem with any questions not to your liking?

  84. Porter Lansing 2017-01-31 12:40

    Why do you think, ele? You have a history of racism and racist comments. Any more questions, lady?

  85. ele 2017-01-31 15:06

    LOL I have a “history of racism and racist comments”? According to whom? You Porter? That’s your opinion, all unsubstantiated. Wonder how the others on this blog feel about you thinking and deciding for them? I personally, having a working brain, would be insulted. You know nothing about me other than I disagree with you.

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