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Pressler: Trump Will Destroy Democracy, Biden Old

Former South Dakota Senator Larry Pressler joins the chorus of honest citizens who recognize Donald Trump threatens democracy in America:

Pressler has been sizing-up the field running for president in both parties and says Donald Trump should not serve in the White House again.

“I’m speaking way out of line here, but here I go: some things Donald Trump has said would lead us to an authoritarian form of government. And we have to kind of stand up and say, ‘Hey, wait a minute — we want democracy; we want every little person’s views taken into consideration,’” Pressler said [Perry Groten, “Pressler Calls out Congress,” KELO-TV, 2023.11.13].

The worst Pressler can say about President Joe Biden is that, like himself, he’s a stale old fart:

Pressler says President Biden, who he considers a friend from his days serving with Biden on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is too old to seek re-election.

“I’m his exact age and I can’t do everything I used to do and I’m worried about him as he plows into this thing. I’m one of these guys, I don’t accept these old-age guys in politics. I think old-age guys should be advisors and spiritual counselors, or something. But we cannot provide that leadership your young guys can do,” Pressler said [Groten, 2023.11.13].

But you know, I’d still take an old guy who believes in the little man and democracy, like Biden and Pressler, over an old guy who calls his opponents “vermin” whom he pledges to “root out“.


  1. jim 2023-11-14 07:12

    Former Trump campaign attorney Jenna Ellis told Georgia prosecutors that then-President Trump did not plan to leave the White House “under any circumstances” after losing the 2020 election, according to video obtained and published by ABC News.

    Surprised? You should be. You should be alarmed. Like – really alarmed! But close to half of the country is not. They’re still supporting him. This can’t be possible in America. Right?

    Try to think this through. If he is elected in 2024, he will install sycophants throughout his administration. He knows who will follow his orders and who will not.

    They will ignore the Constitution, the law and the courts. They already tried it once. He says he would like opponents indicted, jailed or exiled. But then what? He will threaten anyone who stands in his way.

    He will weaponize the Justice Department and FBI. And, this time, he would have the military leadership on his side. Like his pal Putin, he would threaten to use any weapon at his disposal. Think Mike Flynn, Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon with that kind of power.

    What are you going to do about it? What can anyone do, at that point?

  2. LCJ 2023-11-14 07:12

    Democracy is withering away under this administration the way it is.

  3. sx123 2023-11-14 07:16

    I agree with Larry and add that Biden won’t get re-elected because he won’t get one Palestinian American or Muslim vote.

    And Republican pro-lifers in Congress send more money to Israel while Gaza gets blown back to 100 BCE. We have modern, complete night vision capabilities now that allow for surgical combat, but no, let’s blow people and sh*t up.

    In addition, we have a Florida Republican legislature member saying all Palestinians should die, paraphrasing.

    This country is run by idiots.

  4. jim 2023-11-14 07:31

    We are here… because of the cowards. The 43 Republican Senators who didn’t convict Trump after January 6th. They know how dangerous he is. They all know. Even Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley.

    It wasn’t easy. I get it. They were worried about their jobs, their staff and their families. It would have been tough to convict Trump. But we are talking about the survival of democracy. They failed us.

    They are cowards.

  5. jim 2023-11-14 07:35

    Coward: A person who lacks the courage to do or endure dangerous or unpleasant things.
    (Oxford Dictionary)

  6. larry kurtz 2023-11-14 08:02

    Christopher Steele knew Trump was compromised as far back as 2000 and the tarmac meeting in Phoenix between Bill Clinton and AG Loretta Lynch in 2016 was to deliver a thumb drive containing the Steele Dossier contracted by Fusion GPS and Republicans fearful of a Trump presidency. An Arizona State University researcher had already provided intel to John McCain who warned Jim Comey after the election that Trump was being paid by Putin. Trey Gowdy and Jason Chaffetz already had articles of impeachment drafted had Hillary Clinton been elected in 2016.

  7. Tom 2023-11-14 08:17

    But, but the two-party system really, really works! It does not and cannot! All and I mean all the congress clowns who refused to certify the election, should be behind bars! And not the ones that offer 2 for 1 night. Joe should have declared martial law and thrown them all into GITMO. Now it’s too late. We are doomed, I tell you, doomed. And don’t forget to vote! Har!

  8. Rambler 2023-11-14 08:27

    On so many occasions during this dark age of Trump and his MAGA lemmings, I thought it could not get any more dangerous. “Enemy of the people” phrase Trump used so frequently came from 1930’s communists and nazis. Who among us did not understand how dangerous someone is that would use it in reference to perceived enemies? Trump’s use of the word “vermin” likewise was used by communist and nazi leaders in reference not only to Jews but to really anyone they blamed for their country’s problems. All Americans need to wake up to how dangerous this is to our keeping a democratic society and country.

  9. LCJ 2023-11-14 08:49

    This has been the dark age of Biden for the last 3 years. Everything is much worse for America.
    But keep blaming Trump if it makes you feel good, sky screamer.

  10. larry kurtz 2023-11-14 08:52

    Debt, depression, dejection, despair and desperation: do white men have nothing to lose by acting out?

  11. O 2023-11-14 09:18

    LCJ, what specifically do you point to that President Biden has made worse? That seems like a bit of a drive-by attack.

  12. Donald Pay 2023-11-14 10:01

    “Everything is much worse in America.” What a whiner!!!

    Compared to what? We don’t have thousands of people a day dying of covid, as we did four years ago. Businesses and schools are open. Student achievement is on the rebound. We have full employment. Infrastructure projects are booming. Wages are increasing, as is personal income in states that aren’t dependent on socialist bailouts.

    Yes, all this good economics brought some problems, such as inflationary pressure, along with the Fed’s higher interest rates, which ratcheted down the housing market.

    Trump’s Putin-buttlicking led to the Ukraine war. Trump’s “Abraham Accords” led to the Gaza-Israel war.

  13. All Mammal 2023-11-14 10:05

    People who are Trumpkins are those same Germans we learned about in school who went along with Hitler. We couldn’t believe how stupid and gullible and evil they were when we were learning of the Holocaust as kids. We asked our teachers, “How?”, in disbelief.

    And now, the same things that led to WWII are repeating, and the ones on the wrong side of history are literally behaving exactly like Hitler’s duped, scared, weak, racist followers. Open a freakin book on the history of fascism! Reflect when you notice the similarities, and snap out of it LCJ. Like, freals, it ain’t cute, yo. Once they start burning books, people are next.

  14. Mark Mowry 2023-11-14 10:37

    Wait a minute. Larry Kurtz, am I finally getting a glimpse of the source of TDS here? Because I never heard this explanation of the Bill Clinton/Loretta Lynch tarmac meeting before now. It’s expressed so clearly and succinctly, like nothing I ever saw in the press; I really must thank you.
    It’s also quite a tantalizing crackpot conspiracy theory you’ve got going. No wonder so many of you are so freaked out!
    Meanwhile I’ve always had a problem with a former president who’s been away from the White House for four terms, whose wife is running for POTUS, casually meeting up with the US Attorney General of the same party allegedly just to chew the fat.
    Call me a nitpicker, but that somehow just doesn’t seem appropriate.

  15. O 2023-11-14 10:41

    My greatest fear with Trump is that he is the useful idiot. He is not smart enough to collude with Russia for his election, even though they tried to make that happen. He is not smart enough to win over the intellectual Right (yes, they DO exist), so he becomes the poster boy of ignorance and intolerance. That means his “friends” become the nationalists, racists, fascists, all waiting to bring together a train of hatred for power. Trump will champion whoever promises to deliver him to power, and right now those are some dark souls. Immoral business man above the law to immoral political leader above the law is a small step. Say what you want about Biden, nobody sees that man as evil (outside the drummed up MAGA political rhetoric). Start comparing Trump and Biden on the same scale: decency, leadership, governance success, addled old age gaffes . . . just use the same metric for both.

  16. larry kurtz 2023-11-14 10:54

    It’s important to remember theories are arguably provable while hypotheses are often mostly informed hunches so conspiracy theories are not theories at all — at best they’re conjecture and at worst they’re malicious prevarications, even slander or libel.

  17. jim 2023-11-14 11:01

    Mark Mowry has a problem with Bill Clinton chatting with his Attorney General. But Trump’s Attorney General said Donald Trump is unfit for office. He thinks the charges against him are legitimate and he will be convicted of crimes. Did you miss those headlines, Mr. Lowry?

    How do you do it? How do you ignore reality like that?

  18. jim 2023-11-14 11:12

    “Mowry even attended MyPillow founder Mike Lindell’s Corn Palace event in May where he and other attendees heard promises that the Supreme Court of the United States would overturn the election results by summer’s end”. Sept. 20, 2021 Argus Leader

    Of course you did, Mr. Mowry. You are drawn to stupid, like a moth to a flame.

  19. Mark Mowry 2023-11-14 11:13

    Well, for one thing, jim, I don’t see Loretta Lynch as Bill Clinton’s AG. I tend to think of her as OUR AG, thus calling for some accountability on the part of an acting administrator responsibly and somberly holding high office, and also from a former president who should know better.
    Now tell me how you choose your own biased opinions jim.

  20. larry kurtz 2023-11-14 11:25

    9 May, 2016: former Facebook workers allegedly told Gizmodo they routinely suppressed news from conservative sources.
    10 May, 2016: staff for Senator John Thune wrote a letter to Facebook then he and Republican National Committee chair Reince Priebus teamed up to threaten Facebook. “Senator Thune (R) once opposed the FCC’s Fairness Doctrine now wants Q&A with Facebook about its trending topics.”
    11 May, 2016: John Thune accused Facebook of bias. Jim Comey admitted to combing Hillary Clinton’s correspondence.
    13 May, 2016: Thune asked Facebook to make space for all viewpoints.
    18 May, 2016: Thune met with Mark Zuckerberg and a bank of lawyers. “Just about nobody, Sen. Thune included, wants the feds to police how Facebook displays news.”
    19 May, 2016: “The first step forward is for Facebook, and anyone who uses algorithms in subjective decision making, to drop the pretense that they are neutral. If I am reading their letter to Thune right, Facebook’s response is to gut a perfectly defensible part of the process. Why? PR concerns atm (at the moment).”
    23 May, 2016, in the name of “net neutrality” Thune and the Senate GOP said they won’t regulate Facebook.
    24 May, 2016: Facebook’s 12 page response to Thune.
    26 May, 2016: Trump clinches GOP primary.
    31 May, 2016: Thune backs Trump.
    3 June, 2016: Trump twitter bots began urging then-Senator Jeff Sessions to investigate censorship.
    9 June, 2016: Trump, Jr. and Russian intermediaries met at Trump Tower to trade for dirt on Sec. Clinton.
    27 June: Bill Clinton delivers a thumb drive containing the Steele Dossier to Attorney General Loretta Lynch at the Phoenix Airport after an Arizona State University researcher verified its findings.
    5 July, 2016: Jim Comey recommended no criminal charges against Hillary Clinton.
    27 July, 2016: dezinformatsiya, “Russian internet trolls were being hired to pose as pro-Trump Americans.”
    August and September: Clinton’s correspondence on a private server became a Trump bot meme and somebody goaded the husband of Clinton’s closest advisor to share inappropriate correspondence with an alleged minor.
    8 October, 2016: Thune condemns Trump.
    12 October, 2016: Thune flips again and backs Trump.
    25 October, 2016: Rudy Giuliani on Fox News said that the campaign had an upcoming “surprise.”
    28 October, 2016: Jim Comey said he’s going to reopen the FBI investigation into Sec. Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server. In an interview Clinton blamed Guiliani “and others” of leaning on Comey.
    7 November, 2016: despite accusing Hillary Clinton of wrongdoing Comey said hours before the election there actually was none.
    8 November, 2016: the end of the world as we know it.
    “Nine days after Facebook chief executive Mark Zuckerberg dismissed as ‘crazy’ the idea that fake news on his company’s social network played a key role in the U.S. election, President Barack Obama pulled the youthful tech billionaire aside and delivered what he hoped would be a wake-up call.” [Washington Post]
    18 November, 2016: Thune: “Russia is constantly looking for ways to undermine and disrupt our democratic systems.” Thune knows this because he plays basketball with James Comey. Comey and Obama didn’t play basketball together nor did Obama and Thune. Thune’s rejection of Trump was a ruse. He already knew Donald Trump was a sleaze from his basketball buddy.

    That’s right: the extreme white wing of the Republican Party was going to beat Hillary Clinton at any cost even if it meant colluding with a sworn enemy of the United States, destroying the presidency and taking down the republic.

  21. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-14 12:11

    I have established my “We the People, Save the Republic” Political Action Committee in a quest to organize the qualified voters of all 66 Counties and the Precincts under them. I am hoping that in the near future. The plan is to bind my fellow American Citizens of South Dakota, an independent, free, and sovereign Republic as protected by Article 6, to adopt a religious and moral code of order to which binds us to the 14 Articles of Freedom, to which the goal is to limit, and downsize the Federal Government, by supporting, and adopting only initiatives, resolutions, and at-large candidates that remain true to the republic, to which we stand on. By using respect, morals, and remaining true to our christian faith, I hope to organize people under a newfound hope, that the State of South Dakota will return back to its original constitutional framework, prior 1871, and this corporate take over of the republic. We must fill every precinct committee chair, every county committee chair, while plugging into our State Central Committee only those who bound themselves to the regulations set forth in our 1776 Declaration of Independence. By organizing the Counties (and precincts) in such manner, we are fully capable of restoring constitutional order. Christianity and Morality will pave the way to Restoring the Republic to Which We Stand.

    We Are the New Jerusalem – as evidence by the 10 Lost Tribes finding there way to a New Land, the North American Continent, to which God Promised them a Homeland to which they shall never be attacked, have no wars on their soil, let alone never be prosecuted for their faith. Folks, the United States is one of only two countries to which NO “GLOBAL WAR” has ever been fought on their own country, with only Russia being the other.

    Putin did us a favor, he instigated a conflict in the Palestine today, which takes attention way from Ukrain, enabling Russia to destroy NATO, and the ZIONIST Political Movement, to which, paves the way for NEW JERUSALEM to win and adopt a New Promise to the World.

    The United States of America, a REPUBLIC, is ZION – as evidence by the letters in the name Jerusalem – Jer-USA-Lem.

    Join Us Today,

  22. O 2023-11-14 12:21

    Mike, I reject your selective identification of who “We the people” are, and I reject your theocratic underpinning of government. I wish all you revelation-armageddon-end-of-times zealots could manage not to take the rest of us down with you.

  23. jerry 2023-11-14 12:28

    Freshman president Joe Biden has just gotten started rebuilding the crumbled state of the USA. We are seeing huge yuge progress that must be allowed to be completed. The infrastucture plans that have been kicked in gear are fantastic. The rebuilding of American armaments to keep the pace of needed weaponry needs to be moved even faster. All of this means more jobs and more economic growth along with added defence. That all means immigration reform. Freshman Joe Biden needs to be elected once more to graduate us all into higher expectations.

    Also, someone please give Mowry, mikey z their daily meds. These boys are off their collective rockers. Larry Pressler might not be a favorite among many, but he went to Vietnam and served his country which is a helluva lot more than those who are critical of him and yeah, we are old, so what?

  24. Mike Zitterich 2023-11-14 13:30

    America is and never was a democracy. Our founders prevented using the word in our precious documents for good reasons. Democracies are pure evil. We are a Confederacy of 50 Independent and Sovereign Republics, to each have their own means of Self Government. Neither shall stand taller than the next, and we agree to protect all of them equally, regardless of our beliefs. We founded our country based on Christianity and Morality. However, you do not have to be Christian to be American, but you do have to have common sense and morality. But we also do not define what someones morals are, for each and every person is different, or comes from a different religious background. America has been the most christian, moral, and fair country ever. Because of our background, we have open to allowing everyone to come into our country, legally of course, as long as we vet them, approve them, and do background checks on them, But we need to build the wall so our enemies do not come in freely.

    Jacob is Israel, and his fourth son was Juda, and he had 2 sons, Zarah and Pharez. Jesus was born of the House of Pharez, while his followers were born of the House of Zarah. Judea was tasked with looking over his brothers, the 10 tribes. The Tribe of Dan were vanquished and settled the northern coastline of Euruope – Ireland, Denmark, Germany, Poland, Hungary, Baltic States, Sweden. The Tribe of Reuban settled in what today has become Afganistan, the Tribe of Simeon died, and morphed into Judea, while the Tribe of Judea were conqured by the Romans and taken into exile, and helped to settle and develop the Southern Coastline of Europe – Spain, Italy, Greece, Turkey.

    God made a promised the Tribe of Ephraim (Joseph) for all his struggles, that he would receive his birthright, and plant his seed in a land of where there has never been war, peace, will never be attacked, nor religously prosecuted. Does this sound like the Country of Israel today?


    Why is it that the only two counties today to never be attacked, nor have a global war on their own soil, ever, happens to be Russia and USA?

    Both are Christian Countries, one is Roman Catholic, and the other Protestant. Let that sink in. Both remain honest and faitfhul to God, nether allows for Abortion, nor Same Sex Marriage, nor the Trans Movement to take hold, but Both allow ALL people into their borders. Equally.

    Say what you want about Trump and People Like Myself, but we allow eveyrone to live here, even being who want to be.But we will not let you force those beliefs onto others through unconstitutional laws. Government for one should not be involved in Holy Matrominy (Marriage). No reason for Marriage licenses.

    We are Safer behind a Putin led Russia and a Trump led America. Two Christian Countries attempting to put back together the two HOUSES of Judea – Pharez and Zarah, to whom will watch over their 10 Brothers (Tribes).

    The War in Israel today is about land, but the ISRAEL was not about land, nor territory, but about People Bound by faith. We must win this war and bring down the Zionists, and help protect all Christians, Jews, and Muslims.

    The New Zion is the United States of America, a Christian Republic that Protects All People using Christianity and Morality. Jer-USA-Lem

  25. CK 2023-11-14 14:00

    Hey Mike? How come the US Government textbook I teach is titled “United States Government: Our Democracy”? Does the Treaty of Tripoli ring a bell?
    It sure sounds like you need to go back to school. My juniors and seniors know more about how the US Constitution guides our government, and how that government is supposed to function than you.

  26. larry kurtz 2023-11-14 14:36

    $20 says traitor, Trump will be eliminated as a candidate for the general election.

  27. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-14 14:48

    CK, in all due respect sir, you can look back in all of our historic documents, and the word Democracy is NOT mentioned one time. In fact, the word was not utilized in relation to our government at any time prior to 1930 when the liberal-progressive socialists began rewriting our history books, creating a more liberalized viewpoint on our government to suit their personal gains. Much of today’s education system has been completely hijacked, and restructured thanks to John D. Rockefeller in the 1920’s in order to push his political agenda. When I was in school in the 80’s none of my history books were tired Democracy…most history books related to “government” are written and published by Hugh Mufflin, designed to push the New World Order Agenda.

    As for Donald Trump being removed from any of the 2020 Ballots, the Supreme Court will NOT allow that to happen, thank god. Cause they will interpret the 14 Amendment as I have, and it does not apply to any Candidate for President since they have NOT won, nor have held any public office. Section 3 is pretty straight forward, only apple candidates seeking to be U.S Senators, U.S Representatives, Electors for President, or any Federal Office (appointed or elected) under the President, whos job it is to uphold and defend the Constitution.

  28. Joe 2023-11-14 15:00

    sx123, in the Electoral College setup the force of votes from the Muslim community matters little. They live in safe Dem states like CA, NY, NJ, and IL.

  29. Donald Pay 2023-11-14 15:18

    I try not to get sidetracked by MikeyZ’s delusions, but he’s somewhat correct that the US Constitution did not establish a democracy. It did establish a system of government that allowed just enough freedom that, over the long haul of history allowed people to broaden rights to participate fully in our society. Today we are not stuck with the Constitution of the old slave-owning order that required a certain amount of property to be considered worthy of voting and having the rights of citizenship. Mike thinks it’s bad for all our people to vote, so he wants to crawl back to that era where no one votes but the people who would enslave the rest of us. I think we are all better off for the struggles that made our country much better than it was back in 1790.

  30. CK 2023-11-14 15:26

    Well Mike, good job on knowing that a specific word is not in the founding documents. While the founding documents do not contain the word “democracy,” they do, however, set up the function of the US government as a democracy. You can split hairs all you want, our version of government is still a democracy at its core.

  31. jerry 2023-11-14 15:33

    Listen to Old Joe Biden and get yourself a heatpump if you have not already. I have never had any main heat source but electric since 1985. Been through some cold old South Dakota winters too. I had a wood stove for back up, but my heatpumps were always up and running when the electricity was on.

    Bring it Old Joe Biden, you are the man to do it. “Heat pumps are no longer reliant on early adopters despite being early in the cycle, suggesting Americans are well on track to meet net-zero goals by 2050. As far as clean technologies go, it’s the one most popular among Americans so far.

    U.S. households installed 4 million new heat pumps last year, about half of new sales of residential heating systems, eclipsing gas furnaces for the first time.

    Since several regions of the country have been installing them for years, 16 percent of U.S. homes already use electric heat pumps for space heating.” WAPO 14/11/23

  32. O 2023-11-14 15:51

    The US picks and chooses between being s democracy and a republic. If we were a true democracy, the history books would speak of President Al Gore and President Hillary Clinton; the remnants of our republic derailed that democratic expression of our voters. The notion of needing representatives to represent (check) the ignorant voters’ will was elitist in 1776 and ironic now.

  33. M 2023-11-14 16:17

    How about “representative democracy” in theory. In a direct democracy, everyone votes so we are an “apathetic democracy” or an “oligarchy” because so few vote that the minority is in charge.

    In a representative democracy, there would be more than two parties, which has caused an either/or situation all around, thus causing the gridlock that we all get to witness for a lifetime.

    There is something rotten no matter what we call it.

  34. e platypus onion 2023-11-14 16:28

    Why did the Founding Fathers chose democracy?
    Because of this, the Founders of the United States decided that a monarchy system of government did not allow citizens enough input into national decisions. Consequently, they decided that the government of the United States would be a democracy – a political system in which ultimate authority rests with the citizens.

    Democracy it is.

  35. jerry 2023-11-14 16:50

    “When the delegates to the Constitutional Convention met in 1787 to debate what form of government the United States should have, there were no contemporary democracies in Europe from which they could draw inspiration. The most democratic forms of government that any of the convention members had personally encountered were those of Native American nations. Of particular interest was the Iroquois Confederacy, which historians have argued wielded a significant influence on the U.S. Constitution.”

    “What evidence exists that the delegates studied Native governments? Descriptions of them appear in the three-volume handbook John Adams wrote for the convention surveying different types of governments and ideas about government. It included European philosophers like John Locke and Montesquieu, whom U.S. history textbooks have long identified as constitutional influences; but it also included the Iroquois Confederacy and other Indigenous governments, which many of the delegates knew through personal experience.”

    Smart Indians this Native Anericans were indeed. These guys and gals had been living the dream for decades long before the white man came. And they got along trading and doing the same kind of democracy trading that the white folks wanted to do. This Thanksgiving, thank a Native for showing us all the way forward.

  36. larry kurtz 2023-11-14 17:36

    Fourteenth Amendment or not $20 says Donald Trump won’t appear on any general election ballot in any state.

  37. Bob Newland 2023-11-14 19:03

    I’d like to see a concise five-or-so point plan to Make America Great Again. I realize that a major policy initiative like “Seal the Borders” entails a whole lotta territory, but let’s start somewhere.

    Mikey, you first. Grudznutz, you’re not invited. Kurtz, anything containing “chemical toilet” will not be considered.

  38. Mike Zitterich 2023-11-14 19:04

    I will put $100 dollars Donald Trump will be on ALL 50 State ballots for President of the United States. That is how confident I am in my Supreme Court of the United States, that he will be allowed to be on the Ballot. The Supreme Court already has a ruling, setting precedent in 1936. And according to that ruling, state governments cannot prevent the people placing initiatives, resolutions, candidates on a public ballot. That would be a tyrannical government. All these Governors, Secretary of States, Attorney Generals have sworn by oath to Article 6. The only means legally the Democrats could do is prevent Donald Trump from being seated in the Executive Office on January 2025, but we all know that will lead to ___. We are well prepared to fight for Trump this time.

  39. larry kurtz 2023-11-14 19:07

    Even the Supreme Court can’t stop Donald Trump from losing a primary to a better qualified candidate.

  40. larry kurtz 2023-11-14 19:09

    I’ll take that $100 wager, Zitterich.

  41. larry kurtz 2023-11-14 19:32

    So, apparently from Zitterich’s pronouncement if Nikki Haley is the Republican nominee she will not have been democratically selected.

  42. larry kurtz 2023-11-14 20:12

    *secretaries of state* and *attorneys general* are the correct nomenclature, Zitterich.

  43. grudznick 2023-11-14 20:17

    Mr. Zitterich, my close personal friend Lar is righter than right there. (e.g. “Mr. Ravsnborg was one of the insanest Attorneys General in the entire history of the upper plains states.”)

  44. Mike Zitterich 2023-11-14 20:23

    All the winning Candidate needs is 50% of the Electors +1 Elector. And they should be Apportioned 1 District = 1 Vote. And not the winner take all of a State’s Popular Vote. Follow the Constitution precisely. IF, no one is able to get 50% +1 of the Electors, the Congress by means of the Joint Session, is to take the Top 3 Candidates Receiving Votes (electors), they are to seal them in a sealed ballot, and the State Legislators are to nominate and choose Delegates (1 Per State), this process may take 15-20 days, so this extends the Electoral Season from March 2024 to February 2025, when the States get to cast 1 vote each. The current Vice President in that situation would Act as Temporary President until the Right of Choice is Chosen by the States. So Joe Biden (Donald Trump 2020-21) would have to vacate for at least 30-60 days…

    So, I am looking to see how this all plays out this Electoral Session between March 2024 and March 2025 – I have a feeling that this corrupted Congress will play shannigans with the Electors, to keep Trump from getting to 50% +1

    Article 2, Section 1 (Amendment 12)

  45. grudznick 2023-11-14 20:24

    Lar, Mr. Zitterich, grudznick will hold your cash and be the ultimate arbitur of the bet. Please deliver your $100 to our common friend Bob, who will lockbox it, until grudznick rules at a later date. Note that while you bet $100, you only stand to gain $90, as Bob has a fee.

  46. All Mammal 2023-11-14 21:09

    What kind of sick, twisted pup fights for a treasonous rapist who says out loud he fantasizes about bedding down his own daughter? Ugggh just grody.

    Look at places where religion writes the laws. They all suck donkey dong. Go check em out.

  47. Todd Epp 2023-11-14 21:36

    The words “fudge” and “unicorn” are also not in the US Constitution.

  48. Mildred 2023-11-14 21:41

    MZ: not sure why I’m responding to your rambling missives!
    : “………only two counties today to never be attacked, nor have a global war on their own soil, ever, happens to be Russia and USA?” –

    not sure where you get your information but: Sept 11, 2001 the United States was attacked on its own soil – and how about Monaco as a country that has never been involved in a war? etc, etc, etc etc

  49. PWK 2023-11-14 22:14

    Mike Zitterich apparently does not know South Dakota was not admitted to the Union until 1889…not 1871, but he knows best.

  50. Arlo Blundt 2023-11-14 23:29

    Ignore Mr. Zittrick. He babbles paranoid nonsense with no basis in fact and he has no grasp of the history of this country. He concludes his rambling by threatening “This time we will all fight for Trump.”……not vote for Trump but fight for Trump. It’s all too crazy, period.

  51. M 2023-11-15 06:03

    jerry, the FF looked at ancient Greece, read John Locke etc to get ideas. They were scholars.

  52. larry kurtz 2023-11-15 07:59

    Michigan has ruled that state’s election officials can’t keep traitor, Trump off the primary ballot but will revisit whether he’s disqualified from the general election slate.

  53. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-15 08:24

    You have to look at the Vatican as its own Country, and it is merely the Holy Roman Empire in disguise . It is a vast Territorial of Land, occupying sections of land in nearly every country today.

    It has a Political Leader in the Black Pope, and a Religious, Spiritual Leader in the White Pope.

    One is chosen by means of a electoral college process of landowners, to oversee, and govern over the land, property, and operating the government of the Vatican, while the other as a Religious leader across the Territory, managing the Bishops, Priests, and the Church.
    I would NOT say that Martin Luther saw himself as “the pope” as he was leading a group of Germans during a revolutionary period of time, where Germans were wishing to break away from the controls of the Holy Roman Empire, choosing to set their own opinions, declaring themselves sovereign people, fully capable of practicing religion as they see fit.You have to look at their Lutheran Catechism as a Declaration of Rights being presented to the Holy Roman Empire aka the Vatican today, of which like today, was co mingling with the Monarchies of Europe using their vast power to control everyone.

    You can see this Political Zionist Movement take shape by means of the Holy Roman Empire, and the British Empire working together to create this movement for a political subdivision of ZIONISTS in Israel today.

    Remember, Jesus was born of the HOUSE OF PHAREZ, while his Followers were born of the HOUSE OF ZARAH. One could make the argument that House of Pharez became the Vatican led by the Pope, with the first People being Peter; while the Followers of Jesus, became the Christians, were breaking themselves up into smaller religious sects of people thus transforming into the Protestant Movement during the Revolutionary Period, during the Century of the 1400’s.

    So you have this broken Tribe today, called Judea – the Two Houses are divided – the HOUSE OF ZARAH today are mainly the 10 Lost Tribes of Israel (Sons of Jacob), while the HOUSE OF PHAREZ have today become the Catholics ruled by the Vatican today.
    The British Throne today, seemingly is the Atonement Seat as the King or Queen today sits on that Religious Stone…

    The Issachar Tribe which originally settled in Finland, is today mostly made up of Finland and Mexico,
    The Tribe of Reuben today has settled in Afghanistan,

    The Simeon Tribe was vanquished due to their misdeeds and sins, and were absorbed into Judea…

    Remember, when the Assyrians, Persians, and Babylonians conquered the 12 Tribes, 10 of them never came back, they were dispersed, across the globe, ONLY the Tribe of Judah came back after their Babylonian Exile.

    Also, remember, Joseph, was sold into Slavery, and it was not for the Levites, led by Moses and Aaron who led them out of Slavery 200 years later, that the Tribe of Ephraim rose to power creating the Kingdoms of David, and later Solemon after 1500 BCE, to which build the Temple of David, then later the Jewish Temple, and later the Second Temple.

    The ROMANS came and conquered the Land of Canaan, remember ISRAEL is not about occupying a land, it is about a Religious Section of People residing in a Promised Section of Land aka does NOT have to be Canaan.Only by tradition, it has become what it is today.
    You see, the Assyrians conquered the 10 Northern Tribes, they never came back, the Babylonians later came and conquered, and took the JEWS into exile, destroying the First Temple, while under the Persians, they came back, and rebuilt the Second Temple, leading to the Roman Occupying the Land thereafter.

    While the 10 Tribes were dispersed across the Globe, many feel the Isaacher and Dan Tribes went north into what today is Sweden, Finland, Ireland, Denmark, Germany, Hungary, Austria, Poland, the Baltic States.

    It would be the Two Houses of Judea, who were later taken as captives by the Romans, and who helped settle the Southern Coastlines of Europe – Spain, Italy, Greece, and Turkey

    Rome then rebuilds Canaan by first destroying the City of David, the Second Temple, placing the Jupiter Temple on the Spot of the Temple, which later the Muslims built their Mosque, and the Dome of the Rock today sits on the higher hill, where it was Occupied by Fort Antonia.
    Thereafter, the Roman Empire fell around 700 A.D, while 500 years later, the Holy Roman Empire rose to power as 13 Territories in Central Europe, it would be this “Empire” gives way to Political Zionism, which I now believe is really the Political Leaders of the Vatican…

    Many of these Holy Emperors were co-existing with the British Monarchies, leading to many of the Monarchies of Europe becoming entwined, and this leads to the British Throne now sitting on the Atonement Seat.

    During the Rise of the British Empire, they colonized the globe, and they Occupy the Land of Israel today…

    The Germanic Tribes rose up against the Holy Roman Empire, leading to the Isaacher and Dan Tribes rising up, establishing the Protestant Faith.
    1 Chronicles 10: 17-20 – proclaims that God promised EPHRAIM his birth right, this tribe absorbing the 10 Tribes of Israel, are now promised by God to be placed in a foreign land, where they will be protected, be able to be free, never prosecuted, and will be able to be free from bondage. Only one land can represent these people – USA

    Other Tribes go up into Russia, and are protected by the Czars.

    As the Countries of Russia and USA were being created, at the same time, this ZIONIST POLITICAL Movement arose from the ashes of the Holy Roman Empire, attempting to rebuild and put back together the two HOUSES OF JUDA – Zarah and Pharez

    Today, you are seeing this struggle between the HOUSE OF PHAREZ led by Zionists, and the Christians led the HOUSE OF ZARAH.
    While the ZIONISTS believe the homeland should be in Palestine, and thanks to the British Occupation of Palestine, they have established the Zionist Political State of Israel, dividing Jews and Muslims and Christians today.

    The HOUSE OF ZARAH begin the Christians, and split up between different denominations, are being led by the TRIBE OF EPHRAIM who was promised to have his seed planted in a neutral, non-occupied land, is re-establishing itself as NEW ZION, which today seemingly is USA.


    Two Countries today, who have never been occupied, nor had Global Wars on their soil, USA and RUSSIA are now the two leading Christian Countries,

    PUTIN’s strategy was to stir up and instigate conflict in the ZIONIST ISRAEL, thus aiding the Palestians to defend their homeland, while at the same time, it takes pressure away from Russia , in its quest to win the War in Ukraine, of which will bring down NATO and the ZIONiST POLITICAL Movement.

    IF USA is NEW ZION, creating the New Jerusalem as Promised by God, then RUSSIA today is led by the Roman Catholic Church as the homeland, and having a free place to go to escape the Zionists.

    When this Holy War is finished – you will have the HOUSE OF ZARAH aka the UNITED STATES, and the HOUSE OF PHAREZ aka RUSSIA, overlooking, and protecting the People of Israel.

  54. Dicta 2023-11-15 08:26

    Mike’s back after his brief absence in hopes people’s anger at his women “keeping their legs together” comment has settled a bit. You’re a piece of trash, Mike. I can allow some grace on the basis on your mental illness, but that’s just you being a pig, dude.

  55. e platypus onion 2023-11-15 08:36

    The Japanese Invade, June 6 – 7, 1942
    In early June, 1942, the Japanese followed the Dutch Harbor raid with an invasion of American soil. After months of reconnaissance, they landed on Kiska and Attu Islands in the Western Aleutians, over 1,000 miles from Dutch Harbor.Jul 27, 2023

  56. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-15 08:46

    Further, lets remember how the ZIONISTS brought down the Czars between 1861 and 1920, and later the same ZIONISTS broght down the American Republic between 1861 to 1880, leading to thise ZIONIST Take over of both Russia and America. To which you see today, Under Putin and Trump, this restoring of these two Great Republics at War with Political Zionism.

    Facts that USA and RUSSIA have been strong allies for centuries, is the fact that Czar Alexander, best known for freeing SLAVES in Russia in 1858, and Abraham Lincoln best known for Freeing Slaves in USA, were in constant comunication, and friends as they discussed political strategies, Coincidenlty, both were Assassinated for their beliefs, and their political actions, and for Freeing a Group of Slaves.

    Ironically, it has always been the Russians and Americans of whom have fought the hardest against these Central World Banks…

    Ironically, Putin who is high support of a Independent, Sovereign People of Russia, aka Ras-Putin – has led to Restoration of the Russian Republic as it once was prior 1871, (2000-2020)

    Ironically, Led By Trump, the Patriots have moved to Restore the American Republic between 2000-2020 to which the newfound friendship between USA and RUSSIA is coexhisting strong a ever again.

    RUSSIA and USA are the only two Global Powers to never fight a GLOBAL WAR on their own soil, despite a few Indian Skirmishes in America, and a CIVIL WAR 1860-1880, and a few relative skirmishes and civil strife in RUSSIA 1900-1920 when the ZIONISTS hijacked, and took control of each countries central government.

    From 1950 to 2000 the ZIONISTS have pitted these two Countries against each other, when in fact, these two countries are the two most predominant CHRISTIAN COUNTRIES, bound by that Christian Faith and Morality, by accepting immigration into their countries at free will, while attempting to keep BAD ACTORS out.

    IF these two Global Powers are going to resolve this issue today, the common goal here is to Destroy Political Zionism, by going to war with ZIonists, while the end game is to Restore, the Two Great Republics, and the Two Houses of Judah – Zarah and Pharez.

  57. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-15 08:58

    Hawaii was NOT a State Republic during the two World Wars, KNOW your history. IT was NOT American Soil. Emperial Japan attack on Hawaii was direct message to America to stay out of their way in Japans fight in Southwest Asia.

    But I understand Democrats love to think we have 51 States today, so I can see how Democrats are confused by actual historic facts. The United States of America prior to World War II only was a Confederacy of 48 States as Alaska and Hawaii were not yet accepted into the American Republic.

  58. e platypus onion 2023-11-15 10:18

    Zit better learn REAL, TRUE history… The Territory of Hawaii or Hawaii Territory (Hawaiian: Panalāʻau o Hawaiʻi) was an organized incorporated territory of the United States that existed from April 30, 1900, until August 21, 1959, when most of its territory, excluding Palmyra Island, was admitted to the United States as the 50th U.S. state,

  59. e platypus onion 2023-11-15 10:24

    Alexander !! emancipated serfs in 1858. Russia freed slaves in 1720s.

    When was slavery abolished in Russia?
    Slavery, by contrast, was an ancient institution in Russia and effectively was abolished in the 1720s. Serfdom, which began in 1450, evolved into near-slavery in the eighteenth century and was finally abolished in 1906. Serfdom in its Russian variant could not have existed without the precedent and presence of slavery.

  60. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-15 10:43

    In the early 1900’s – the Richest, and Most Powerful Wealthy Citizens in America came together to completely rewrite American History, in order to steer the future of Public Education of Teaching the History of America.

    Led by John D. Rockefeller, and Others such as J.P Morgan, Andrew Carnegie, they would form non-profit organizations, tax exempt entities to raise money to promote their political views and opinions in relation to American History itself.

    They would steer America into World War 1 by twisting facts, and history, in order to push a political agenda, and it worked, and they continued after the war, by ensuring that America would never again be Anti-War, and more vulnerable and accepting to going to war. So this seems to be the precursor to establishing a Military Industrial Complex in America.

    This group of wealthy individuals would try to bribe the four leading history authors, to convince them to rewrite history, in their viewpoints, but those History Authors were not sold on the idea, and turned them down, so this leads to Plan B.

    They turned to College Students, and the possibility of bribing 18-22 year olds to help them push their Agenda in the future.

    In order to push their agenda, they would donate $400,000 dollars to create College Grants, giving to 20 College Students money for college, to entice, and promote the changes being desired by these Non-Profit Organizations, with the goal of creating a mindset in America, leading to this Anti-War Mindset.

    After Congress established a Select Committee in the 1950’s, mainly to see if these Non-Profit Organizations were pushing Communist beliefs, and ideals, they discovered this plot led by these wealthy persons to completely rewrite and change history.

    What they found was through these organizations, they would pay for College Tuition, by handing out “Grants” with the goal to push their agenda, reforming, and changing the mindset of young individuals in America, that would completely rewrite, and change how Americans would perceive history.

    First, those initial 20 College Students in 1910, would go on to be appointed to the Governing Board of the American Historical Association to which would completely change policy, and ideologically, revamp the process of teaching American History.

    Their Major Goals that this Board Established:

    Establish a History Curriculum at the Highschool Level;
    Decide What Constitutes as Ethical Behavior by History Professors, Teachers, Authors;
    Develop the Good Practice in Creating History Textbooks;
    Write Policies that Will Guide States and Local Governments in Shaping Objective News, and Opinions.
    First Established by these Select Chosen People, beginning in 1889, the goal was to promote historical work and the importance of historical thinking in public life, to which, they desired to create the mission to enhance the work of historians also encompasses professional standards and ethics, innovative scholarship and teaching, academic freedom, and international collaboration, while serving historians in a wide variety of professions, and represents every historical era and geographical area.

    Keep in mind, this period was also part of the Gilded Age, a period of years between 1880 to 1900, to which the foundations of America were changing after the Civil War, and an active arouse of actors led by Bankers, Financial Interests, and Corporate Leaders were attempting to rebuild America, by establishing a Centralized Banking System, led by wealthy individuals of whom desired to dramatically change America.

    Wealthy folks, led by J.P Morgan Chase, the Rothschild Family, John D. Rockefeller, Andrew Carnegie, and others were beginning to lobby Congress to establish not only their central banking scheme, but they wanted to create a Military Industrial Complex, to which would help fund, and provide for the United States Army, Navy by investing in equipment, vehicles, and property.

    After the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank, which coincided with the agreement made came to be known as The Morgan-Belmont Syndicate, a group of private bankers who had agreed to all the U.S Treasury Bonds, allowing the Federal Government to restock the treasury, with bank notes. To which would lead to financing the federal government in the years ahead, buying gold and silver, with the hope to encourage American Investors to purchase the U.S Treasury Stock, to which they would then use to finance the federal government itself.

    The Federal Reserve became that Central Banking Institution by 1913, and it would lead to Changing the American Mindset from opposing war, to being on board with accepting the fact that “War’ is necessary to defend our political interests.

    The effects of this 20 Member Governing Board, would not be compensated, and paid for by these Non-Profit Corporate Partners, to which now will be paid with federal taxes collected from Americans to support vast change in history opinion.

    This Group of Powerful Leaders got America involved in World War I, and would now lead us into the future, by using Public Education, to recreate History, by shaping the minds of young children, thus plugging in our minds that War for Profit is good.

    After World War I, the American Government would completely change itself, by ending the War Department, while creating the Defense Department, behind the idea that we need to Defend, Secure, and Proactively Guard America by building this expensive, and aggressive Military Machine.

    During the 1930’s – We would expand the American Military by Incorporating the UNITED STATES MILITARY to include the Army, Navy, Coastguard, Air Force, the Marines, and recently added, the Space Force.

    They go on to establish the Central Intelligence Agency, the Federal Bureau of Intelligence Agency, and the Defense Intelligence Agency, to which, all would be under the Departments of Defense and State thus creating their Military Machine.

    Despite the Fact, the United Constitution specifically stresses that no “appropriation” of federal tax dollars may be for longer periods of two years, meaning no Act of War or Conflict shall be funded past the typical Two Year Congressional Term – this new agenda pushed by Wealthy Prospectors, Agents, and Speculators, will not lobby Congress to continue to finance, and bankroll the Military Industrial Complex, of building up their American Military Bases around the Globe, Buying Equipment, Vehicles, Panes, Ships, and Other Assets.

    Through this United States Military Corporation, which not only includes the Five Branches of the Military, it now includes all of the Federal Contractors and Agencies beneath them, to which are fully vested in the United States Industrial Complex.

    Following this build up of the Military, it was not without design, that these same Wealthy Contributors were staunch supporters of American involvement in World War II, and by the large profits created from the war, a new concept was finally born.

    After the War, new Organizations seemingly became the result of this movement, the Zionist State of Israel, led by the three Global Partners – Great Britain, the United States, and the Vatican all rose in support of forming the International Monetary Fund, to which will act as the Global Centralized Banking Institution, the North American Treaty Organization, and of course, the United Nations, to which quickly found, that any Country, or Territorial Government that opposed this Ideology, would now become the Axis of Evil – of course this meant the holdouts became the Soviet Union, China, North Korea, and Syria.

    Those four countries also happened to be the leading groups of nations to oppose this Centralized Scheme. And with that, all history was changed forever…

    For Example, prior to 1900, who would have thought that Russia and the United States were vast Partners in Peaceful Relations, protectors of Global Peace, and Detractors to Military Powers being Used on Sovereign Countries.

    Today, this very Elite Organization of Central Banking, the War Profiteers, and Global Investors have led to the Creation of the Several newly created United States Departments – Education, Energy, Homeland Security, and the Enlarged Defense Dept.

    The Agencies of the CIA, FBI, DIA, and the newly created National Security Council – all act as Non-Elected Persons, to which are nominated from within this centralized network of Wealthy, Global Non-Profit Partners, to which instruct the President to Appoint Specific People to lead these agencies, of which are today accepted and approved by Congress itself.

    These people control our Corporate National Media such as Fox News, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, and DISNEY.

    They further control Hollywood, 75% of the State and Local Newspapers around the Country, putting their opinions in front of as many people as necessary, creating this entire Fake News Mentality that seemingly is misleading the American People.

    First they Changed History, then they Hijacked Your Government, and finally, they Swindeled their way into Our Homes.

  61. O 2023-11-15 12:33

    It seems I agree with Mike Zitterich: history has taught us that allowing individuals to be come obscenely wealthy leads our nation, our democracy down dark paths. Redistribute the wealth! (At least that’s what I got from his missive.)

  62. bearcreekbat 2023-11-15 14:19

    O, Mike Z’s frequent comments seem to indicate he is a card carrying member of the MAGA movement and a steadfast supporter of Donald Trump. How would you square MAGA’s blind support for Donald Trump, who claims to be one of the wealthiest individuals in the USA, with the idea both you and Mike Z seem to posit, the wealthy lead our country down dark paths?

  63. larry kurtz 2023-11-15 14:26

    Judge Luttig quotes Alexander Hamilton.

    “A people so enlightened and so diversified as the people of this Country can surely never be brought to [monarchy], but from convulsions and disorders, in consequence of the acts of popular demagogues. The truth unquestionably is, that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion. Tired at length of anarchy, or want of government, they may take shelter in the arms of monarchy for repose and security.

    Those then, who resist a confirmation of public order, are the true Artificers of monarchy—not that this is the intention of the generality of them. Yet it would not be difficult to lay the finger upon some of their party who may justly be suspected.

    When a man unprincipled in private life desperate in his fortune, bold in his temper, possessed of considerable talents, having the advantage of military habits—despotic in his ordinary demeanour—known to have scoffed in private at the principles of liberty—when such a man is seen to mount the hobby horse of popularity—to join in the cry of danger to liberty—to take every opportunity of embarrassing the General Government & bringing it under suspicion—to flatter and fall in with all the nonsense of the zealots of the day—It may justly be suspected that his object is to throw things into confusion that he may “ride the storm and direct the whirlwind.””

  64. O 2023-11-15 14:40

    bearcreekbat, the short answer as it comes to Trump: I’m right; Mike is wrong. The longer answer (because I didn’t get past the first paragraph of Mike’s manifesto) is that greed is fundamentally bad; being treated as above others — much less being treated as above the law is bad; Donald Trump is the embodiment of both those, disconnected from decency and society. For that character flaw alone I would dismiss him as a potential valuable public servant as I would have dismissed any robber baron of the gilded age. Donald Trump might have also ended the foolish rhetoric of the Right that we need to run the US like a business. That may be because as time went on, Trump’s incompetence in business became more clear.

  65. Arlo Blundt 2023-11-15 15:25

    It is difficult and largely inaccurate to compare Trump to any figure in America’s history. The closest I can come is Aaron Burr.

  66. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-15 15:47

    Under the Donald Trump Administration – No Wars, Troops Were Coming Home in a Strategic Manner, North Korea did not launch any Rockets, Russia and USA were on good speaking terms, and Iran was held in Check. Not only that, but the Abraham Accords were Trump’s 2nd Greatest Accomplishment, behind the Greatest Tax Cut in American History leading to tons of JOBS being Created Today. Democrats and Neo Con Republicans will never admit it cause they are both “War Mongering Militants” who support Wars for Profit. Donald Trump led the effort to change that course, and END ALL WARS, to which we saw World Peace like no time prior since, 1871. Donald Trump will go down as a Great Leader, President, and American. He Self Funded His Own Campaign in 2016, while Building the America First P.A.C to lobby for, and help Promote American First Candidates in the Future. I really do NOT care about what you Democrats say on this page. Trump is NOT a Sexist. Trump is NOT a Rapist.. Trump is NOT a Racist. and Trump is NOT a Terriorist. TRUMP was elected to accomplish one thing – SAVE THE REPUBLIC.

  67. larry kurtz 2023-11-15 16:42

    Like some of Obama’s other Republican supporters, Pressler said he had concerns about his party’s fiscal policy, particularly the war in Iraq, that went beyond the presidential campaign.

    “We have to be a moderate party. We can’t be for all these foreign military adventures. We have to stop spending so much money. My God, the deficit is so high!” he said. “The Republican Party I knew in the 1970s is just all gone.”

  68. O 2023-11-15 17:24

    MLZ: some of us remember the REAL history: (I brought receipts.)

    The US was not only in Afghanistan under President Trump, our presence there INCREASED.

    During Trump’s first year in office, Kim Jong-un tested his first intercontinental ballistic missiles, demonstrating the potential to reach the U.S. homeland for the first time, along with a slew of short and medium-range projectiles and what appeared to be his first hydrogen bomb.

    I concede that Russia and President Trump were on good speaking terms, but they were mostly speaking about determining the outcome of US elections. I would argue that Trump was too soft on Russia: Trump denied the veracity of US intelligence reports accusing Russia of paying bounties to Taliban fighters to kill US troops in Afghanistan; he sided with Russia over US sources. I cannot score that a win for Trump.

    Defense spending boomed under Trump — overfunding Pentagon requests. Proliferation invites conflict.

    The Abraham Accords did not head off the current conflict with Israel and Hamas: But there are shortcomings in the level of cooperation as well. Most notably, despite the initial goal of the Arab organizers, cooperation among Israel and its Arab partners has failed to produce tangible improvements in the Israeli-Palestinian calculus. I guess it fixed everything BUT the central Israel conflict??!

    The Trump tax cuts did not help jobs or worker wages — they only increased the deficit (remember the deficit, it’s that thing the Right whines about when Democrats are in office after Republicans run it up). Two years after [Tump’s tax cuts], however, business investment is actually declining. Factory closings and mass layoffs have not ended. Wage growth is tepid, despite the continuation of the economic expansion that began 10 years ago, and gross domestic product (GDP) growth is slowing and projected to revert to its long-term trend or below. Meanwhile, budget deficits are higher due to revenue losses—which have largely been triggered by the massive corporate tax cut at the heart of the TCJA.

    Trump’s campaign was not self-funded: But almost immediately after announcing his presidential bid, Trump began passively accepting contributions from his growing legion of supporters. The dollars began adding up, and as May arrived, federal records indicate Trump’s supporters had together given his campaign about $14 million. Furthermore, he has used political PACs to fund his personal litigation expenses. He skimmed money from GOP superPacs to his PACS.

    “Grab ’em by the pussy” seems sexist to me still. Being found responsible for sexual assault is as close to rapist as we ought to let a presidential candidate get. Donald Trump showed on January 6th that “the Republic” will take the back seat to his personal ambition.

    But what do I know?

  69. Todd Epp 2023-11-15 17:39

    Zit has been busy!

  70. M 2023-11-15 17:43

    Obviously MZ has no life and an altered sense of reality.

  71. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-15 22:33

    Thank You for All the Awesome Comments, I always Enjoy Reading the many comments made in reference to my posts, and I look forward to reading more in the future. For more of my politics, click the following link at

    Sincerely, With All Due Respect,

    Mike ZItterich
    Minnehaha, Precinct Committeeman 5-22

  72. jerry 2023-11-16 03:34

    Hawaii was a USTerritory in 1941, like Puerto Rico is today. The American fleet and Schofield Barracks were attacked by Imperical Japan. Now if American ships or troops are attacked in Puerto Rico, I would say that would also be an act of war.

    I too like the way mikey z wants to redistribute wealth from the rich to the poor, who knew he was such a socialist.

  73. jerry 2023-11-16 05:13

    Klansman, mikey z, is all in on this. “WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A Ku Klux Klan newspaper has declared support for Donald Trump’s Republican run for U.S. president, saying America became great because it was a white, Christian republic.

    The Crusader, one of the white supremacist group’s most prominent publications, published a lengthy endorsement and defense of Trump’s message on the front page of its current issue under the headline: “Make America Great Again.”

    So yeah, buy a clunker at mikey z’s to support the Klan and Putin, a twofer.

  74. Dicta 2023-11-16 08:35

    Truly excited to watch the hallowed posters on this site re-engage Mike, fully aware of where this leads and prepared to act SHOCKED and DISMAYED when he wigs out again.

  75. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-16 11:01

    I take high offense to those who seemingly wish to attack me a person based on my christian roots and my strong moral beliefs in being respectful to all people, regardless of what we each, individually believe. I have lived my entire life making every effort to be as respectful, as professional, and understanding of each others beliefs, while at the same time, staying true to my Christian Faith, Morals, and Demeanor. Through all the discussions we have shared with each other on this page, not once, have I resorted to name calling, let alone personal attacks towards any member on this page. I have used my real name, putting myself there, for all to see, and I believe my moral character speaks highly of itself.

    I have taken a lot of abuse on these Democrat pages, being called some very god-awful names, some choice words being sent my direction, but I have taken them all stride, maintaining a sense of dignity in myself, my parents, and my family, as well as my fellow Citizens of S.D.

    I will not, and I stress the importance of strong respectful dialogue be the strong focus of public debate, reglardless of which side of the fence you may sit on, I will not resort to name calling, insults, and demonizing behavior, so long as I contribute to this forum.

    I have followed my fathers footsteps in the automotive industry, whereas he started Zitterich Auto Repair in 1979 from the confines of our home on W. 41st Street, to growing the business based on ethics, christian values, respect, honesty, and morals. It has taught me how to best manage and do business myself as I began buying and selling used motor vehicles in 2015 as Zitterich Auto Sales, practicing the same business techniques taught to me by my own father – strong Christian Values, Honesty, Morals, and Respect.

    I have never done anyone wrong, nor have I ever intentionally provided anyone bad service, or products. I have always remained honest with myself, as well as to those who wish to do business with me. I have stood behind all my vehicles, even those where I sold for $1,500 or less. Profit was not always my biggest motivation, I wanted to provide that single mother, that low income individual, that person with a vehicle at the price they could afford, without having to do payments, and that meant purchasing the best vehicles I could for the cost of $500 to $1,000 dollars, while trying to maintain a profitability of at least $500 dollars minimum. With every vehicle I ever sold, my own father, very respected in the automotive industry here in Sioux Falls, provided to me a complete vehicle inspection, a full service oil change, and I always promised to pay my own father $100 for that service, plus marketing his own business, by enticing my own customers to use my fathers services, while working with my customers to encourage them to fix up, and maintain the vehicle over the course of the first 12 months – I offered to each of my customers that they would be entitled to 20% Off All future parts and labor and 1 free oil change over those first 12 months, cause I wanted to work with them, in helping them gain equity in their own vehicle, enabling them to profit from a future sale.

    For those people on social media who have made rude and obnoxious comments about me or my business on the web, whether on Facebook or some other source, they know who they are, and they know the things they say are not remotely true, let alone are slandersous, and completely misrepresent the facts, and the truth. Many of them say such things and have never even met me in person, let alone done business with me, but resort to social media to make such negative comments knowing they are not close to being true.

    I feel sorry for people who resort to such childish behavior, and I feel for those who feel they have to treat others so terribly bad, all cause they have had a bad experience in their own life, let alone troubled times.

    Yes, I speak out loudly voicing my political opinion, and yes, that opens me up to criticism, and insults but, No, that does not warrant the such negative and untrue comments said about me, regardless of political opinion or belief.

    I may not agree with your stance on Abortion, Same Sex Marriage, or Bi-Racial Marriage, let alone the Trans-Movement, or LGBTQ belief, but I also do not go out of my way to insult them, slander them, let alone attack them. They are all American just like me, and they have the unalienable right to be who they are regardless of our politics, our own sense of being. I strongly believe that Government should be limited to only public buildings, things, roads, infrastructure, and any other public service, we as soveriegn and free people delegate to it.

    No, I do not believe Government should be involved in our Marriages, our Private Lifestyles, nor our Personal Affairs – Government was created to protect ALL rights, but not to engage in such activity itself.

    I am proud to call South Dakota home, and I am proud of my Ancestry, just as anyone else is proud of theirs. We formed the United States of America to be made up of a Free, Independent, and Sovereign People, to each of whom have the luxury of forming their own State Republics.

    I voted for Donald Trump not for his moral character or flaws, but because he stood out against the “Established Order of Politics”, he stood up to those who threatened our very exisitence, and he stood up in defense of both White and Black People, Male and Female, and in support of Legal Immigration, behind a restricted but managable border control.

    I spell my name M-I-K-E, and I do not spell my name G-O-D – I am made in the image of God, but I am made like everyone else, an imperfect human being, naturally born of this earth, like everyone else, to which, ‘we’ are prone to mistakes, but it is important to learn from those mistakes, and show remorse and respect to those who we disagree with or have done wrong.

    While I enjoy the countless conversations on this page, to which I have felt I made some friendships with many of you, while getting to know yourside of the story, while you can better understand my point of view. To those who demonized me, or insulted me, I pitty you, and I will pray for you, that you find the help, and respect you so desire in the future. May Peace be With You, and My God Save Your Souls.

    Sincerely, and Thank You for the Opportunity, to Discuss Political Opinions of Each Other,

    Mike Zitterich
    (605) 376-0527

  76. O 2023-11-16 11:44

    Mike, does it bother you that after voting for Trump, he turned around and did none of the things you listed wanting him to do?

  77. chris 2023-11-16 12:32

    Hey M-I-K-E,

    […Why is it that the only two counties today to never be attacked, nor have a global war on their own soil, ever, happens to be Russia and USA?

    Both are Christian Countries, one is Roman Catholic, and the other Protestant. Let that sink in. Both remain honest and faitfhul to God, nether allows for Abortion, nor Same Sex Marriage, nor the Trans Movement to take hold, but Both allow ALL people into their borders. Equally. …]

    You meant to say here that the USA is the “Roman Catholic” country, right? Since Russia is clearly “Protestant”. Right?

  78. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-16 12:49

    Donald Trump Campaigned in 2016 on Promising the Following:

    1) Tax Reform – Trumped delivered on this promise within the first 18 months cutting tax rates, by encouraging Citizens to invest in themselves, their businesses, their corporations, all of which has led to Massive Job Creation. (Biden has NOT reversed this);

    2) Border Security, Control, and the Wall – Trump delivered on this promise of building the wall, and forcing Mexico to pay for the wall. It not only restricted immigration into the country, but held government accountable to enforcing the laws to properly vet, and provide for legal immigtration. How did Mexco pay for the Wall – through Indirect Taxation of American Individuals and Businesses who transacted with Mexican Individuals, Businesses, Corportions doing business inside Mexican Borders – Tariffs, Transaction Fees, Other Excises. It also led to the newly adopted United States, Mexico, Canada Fair Trade Act aka USMCA

    3) Global Peace Around the World – Trump delivered to the States this promise, by first reaching out and speaking directly with North Korea Russia, Iran, and Israel, brokering the infamous Abraham Accords, which effectively fostered better dialogue between all these countries. In the four years of the Trump Administration, 2017-2021 – there were NO new wars started, U.S Bases were Closing, and Afganistan was in a decline, and preparing to bring troops home over a steady 6 year withdrawel strategy

    4) Transforming Power from D.C back to the State Republics – Trump delivered on this promise, a huge one, by deregulating many federal regulations, while allowing the State Governors and Legislatures more effective powers to govern themselves, thus limiting the Federal Govt within those 50 Sovereign State Republics, this allowed people to be more freer, to move around, transact business, and prosper.

    5) Making Jerusalem the Capital of Israel – Trump also delivered on this promise, by moving the capitol of Israel from Tel-Aviv to Jerusalem, which of course was also part of the Abraham Accords agreements, of which allows the Jews and Muslims and Christians to finally have some peace, while allowing for a transfer of power within Israel from European Money Men, to the Citizens of Israel themselves.

    6) Election Audits, Reviews, and Regulating Election Interference – Trump delivered on this promise nearly immediately through Executive Action, by signing into law Executive Orders, which instructed the Department of the Treasury, State, Defense, and Interior to audit the 2018 and 2020 federal elections, inspect other aspects of ballots, and by beginning the process of seeking out, and auditing all Americans who invest in Chinese Business in China of whom transfer profits to the Chinese Communist Party and their MIlitary, let alone Trump used Executive remedies to begin auditing, and investigating Election Interference in China and Russia where they intefer here in America.

    7) Trump’s Promise to Remove the Deep State – this was to be a huge goal for the 2nd Term of President Trump, winning re-election would have increased his popularity in relation to transferring further power back to the states by removing Deep State Actors by means of shutting down and getting rid of government wasteful spending, while limiting, or getting rid of all 17 Federal Agengies – CIA, FBI, DIA, NSA, SS, MED, Medicaid, and a wide host of Departments such as Education, Energy, Commerce, and Others

    Most of Trump’s promises were kept wthin his first two years of office (2017-2019), before the Democrats took back the U.S House and interupted what Trump was working on, while the years 2019-2021 led to Democrat fraudalent Investigations and Impeachment trials.

    I am more than happy with many of Trumps accomplishments during his first term as the U.S Executive (2017-2021), and look forward to his second term (2025-2029).

  79. larry kurtz 2023-11-16 12:51

    White christianic nationalists support Donald Trump because they’re convinced he’s the Antichrist who will enable them to conquer the Seven Mountains. The End Times fulfill a prophesy and welcome a supernatural extraterrestrial to create a one-world government. No higher being could be anything but predatory. It’s dystopian fantasy run amok.

  80. e platypus onion 2023-11-16 14:33 trumps-final-numbers/ could have also said the numbers show Zit is full of caca del toro. drumpf did basically guarantee 5 and even 6% GDP growth which did not even come close.

  81. jim 2023-11-16 15:03

    1,432 words.

    That’s just ONE of Mike Lee Zitterich’s comments. I like hearing all sides but please, please – edit them down. I beg you.

  82. larry kurtz 2023-11-16 16:03

    Mr. Zitterich must feel highly accomplished in being an autodidact and having no one interfere or interrupt with the formation of his worldview.

  83. grudznick 2023-11-16 17:17

    Mr. Zitterich, tighten up your bloggings.

  84. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-16 18:54

    MEXICO did end up paying for the Wall…

    ALL Americans who do business with Mexican Businesses pay TARRIFS, we increased the tarrifs,

    ALL Mexicans who reside in United States, who transfer monies to their families in Mexico, and this is a huge revenue stream, pays a TRANSACTION FEE, and Trump raised these FEES as part of the Tax Reform Act

    ALL American Businesses who were in Mexico, a good # of them brought their headquarters back to U.S Soil, costing Mexico billions of dollars in Tax revenues they normally wold have collected off busines activities in Mexico.

    Fact, End of Story.

  85. e platypus onion 2023-11-16 19:22

    As of January 8, the Trump administration has built just 47 miles of border wall where none existed before. President Barack Obama left office with 654 miles of border fencing in existence, according to a Government Accountability Office report from early 2017; Trump will leave with 701 miles of border fencing, according to CBP. The half-mile section that Trump visited today was completely new, the spokesman said.

    As of Jan 8, 2021 and Mexico still hasn’t paid a dime of the costs and never will. Fact! End of story!

  86. Arlo Blundt 2023-11-16 22:32

    When a tariff is levied against goods or services originating in a foreign country, the American consumer ends up paying the tariff levy in higher consumer prices. Fact. End of Story. Mr. Zittrerick believes any BS emanating from Trump. Fact. End of Story.

  87. larry kurtz 2023-11-17 08:10

    The stakes of the Colorado case are great. And it’s troubling to contemplate the consequences of disqualifying Trump, a bully with a proven ability to incite mob violence. But a disquieting outcome is no grounds for a judge to avoid the force of constitutional language, and the far worse result is for cold feet to render the law of the land inoperable in the courts.

    The case comes down to this: Trump took an oath to the Constitution and then engaged in insurrection against it — and now he wants to be president again, which is intolerable in a nation of laws.

  88. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-17 08:50

    No one on this page has to explain to me how Constitutionally, Federal Tax system works. I know more about the tax system than anyone on this page.

    Article 1 Taxation:

    Excise Taxes – are taxes contracted by American Businesses of who go into business across “State Lines’ of whom are contracted or licensed by the Federal Government to provide commercial activity utilizing our Natural Resources, Minerals, Energy Consumption, Tobacco, Alcohol, Telecommunications. These Taxes are paid by these Multi-National Corporations, and other Americans in the business across state lines. I.E – a Gas Station purchases 1,000 Gallons of Gas, pays an Federal Excise Tax of 8%, and then resells the gas to the consumer. (consumers indirectly pays these taxes through the cost of business, as they buy 25 gallons of gas from the gas stations. EXCISE TAXES provide to the Federal Government “REVENUES” that are then used to pay for Federal Highways, Infrastructure (utilities, telecommunications, etc), and other Properties that exceed “State Borders”

    Another Example – Social Security and Medicare Excise Taxes are paid by Americans as the tax is ‘assessed’ to the persons “Net Income” paying a 15.3% Excise Tax.

    Duties – are paid by Americans of whom utilize and purchase federal services such as the Federal Postal Service (Stamps, Delivery Fees, etc), National Park Service (entrance fees), other services provided by the Federal Government to which provides the government revenues to pay for, and provide the service itself.

    Imposition Fees – are paid mostly by American Businesses (American Citizens) as they do business across State Borders, National Borders. Examples of these types of taxes are: Business License, Permits, Land Patents, Copy Right Patents, Transaction Fees, Tariffs, Federal Income Tax, etc.

    ***Yes, Mexico did pay for America to Build the Wall, cause ALL AMERICANS who transact with Mexican Businesses end up paying a “TARIFF” levied against the profits stemming from the activity of the transacation itself. So if a Mexican Business wants to sell its services or products to an American, the Mexican Business has to ‘assess’ an imposition fee to the transaction, which is paid for by the Business itself.

    **Another Example of how Mexico pays for the Wall, is by “Transaction Fees’ as Mexicans living in United States wire “Money” back and forth across the border, thus they owe a Transaction Fee on the amount being transferred, and the money goes to national defense, security, of enforcing the border.

    The FEDERAL INCOME TAX is in fact legally referred to as a IMPOSITION FEE – it is levied only on the profits of all U.S PERSONS of whom contracts with another U.S PERSON to exchange their LABOR for CAPITAL. The “Tax” is then assessed to the profit stemming from the activity, and is 100% voluntary on all American Citizens of each of the 50 States, but is Mandatory on 100% of all U.S Persons which include: President, Vice President, U.S Senator, U.S Representative, Supreme Court Justices, Federal Officers, Agents, Employees, Contractors, etc.

    A American residing and only working inside the borders of their “State” but does NOT sign nor place his or her name on a W-4 or W-9 is NOT mandated to file a 1040, nor pay a Federal Income Tax. It would be 100% Voluntary based on their voluntary consent of doing such.

    How do Private Americans become forced to file a 1040, hence being charged a Federal Income Tax? By Borrowing Money from a Federal Reserve Bank, borrowing federal reserve notes, hence being forced to submit a 1040 on the previous years gross income, assessing themselves, expensing off all qualified expenses, to determine their Net Income, to which then they sign their name on the contract, to which the Federal Income Tax is then assessed @ 35, 25, 20, 15, 12% depending on the amount of profit recorded.

    Another way that a Private American Citizen is forced to pay a Federal Income Tax is if they so choose to apply for, or submit themselves to the Federal Government in order to qualify for a Federal Tax Subsidy, Credit, Allowance, Child Credit – in order to qualify for the benefit, they must submit a 1040 Informational Return, thus assessing their previous years Gross Income, expensing off their Qualified Expenses, to determine their Net Income, to which again, once signing the document, are assessed a Federal Income Tax @ 35, 25, 20, 15, 12%

    Notice if the Private American is able to expense off enough INCOME, that they do NOT owe the tax, they legally Avoided the Tax!

    Even if you work for an EMPLOYER – and sign a W-4, while the Employer is contracted to assess, and remit Social Security Taxes, Medicare Taxes, Unemployment Taxes, Workman Compensation Fees on your “Gross Wage” – you as the employee can legally CLAIM 9 Exemptions, or simply EXEMPT YOURSELF telling the Employer to NOT withhold any such Federal Income Tax upfront, cause you A) do not owe the tax, or B) are taking responsibility yourself to pay the tax later upon filing your own 1040.

    Even as an EMPLOYEE – you can commercialize your name inside SOUTH DAKOTA by creating YOUR NAME dba Your Name, apply for a Federal Employer Identification Number, to which you can now open a Commercial Bank Account, thus transferring 100% of your Gross Wage into this holding account, while placing your Vehicle, Phone, Internet, Clothing Expenses, 10% of Your Housing Expenses, Tools, Supplies, etc any EXPENSES that go into providing your labor, to be paid by that Commercial Identity. You ‘act commercially in that aspect.
    So, by claiming EXEMPT on your W-4, allows you to INVEST your GROSS INCOME into your own “Commercial Identity” allowing you to expense off those Commercial Expenses first, while paying a Federal Income Tax only on the amount of income withdrawn from, and deposited into a Personal Bank Account used for 90% of your Housing Expenses, Food, and Entertainment cost of living.

    ALL EXCESSIVE PROFITS left over should be reinvested back into your LABOR aka by buying a new computer, phone, or a vehicle, equipment, desk, file cabinet etc, let alone transfered over to a TRUST aka Land, Real Property, Retirement, Healthcare, Education, etc to be used in the future as a long term capital investment, where you would be benefited to pay a Long Term Capital Gain Tax of 15 or 10%.


  89. jerry 2023-11-17 09:18

    The Panda’s are coming baaack to the USA!! Indeed, that wise older gent, Joe Biden, knows what the kiddies likes and he made the deals for their return.

  90. e platypus onion 2023-11-17 10:02

    Know Nothing appears to be wrong about FICA taxes which are assessed by gross income. And Mexico still hasn’t paid for drumpf’s fallacy follies.

    FICA contributions are withheld from a wage earner’s gross pay; the amount withheld depends on gross wages. Employers match the FICA taxes paid by their employees. Wage earners cannot opt out of paying FICA taxes.

  91. Mike Lee Zitterich 2023-11-17 14:02

    FICA TAX = SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX = Social Security and Medicare Excises Taxes = They are assessed on NET INCOME.

    Gross Wages are a portion of the businesses NET INCOME, a business can lower this ‘tax’ by lowering wages, and reinvesting his own MONEY elsewhere.

    I am Self Employed, my Self Employment Tax is assessed to my NET INCOME, and further more, I take a 50% Personal Deduction for every dollar worth of Self Employment Tax – Self Employment Tax Deduction = lowers my Net Income even further, avoiding Income Tax.

  92. e platypus onion 2023-11-17 15:29


    The Self-Employment Contributions Act (SECA) of 1954 requires the self-employed to pay taxes on their net earnings to help fund Social Security and Medicare.

    SECA is not FICA and, like Mexico, never has been.

  93. larry kurtz 2023-11-17 17:21

    A ruling in Colorado could come yet today.

    In a closing argument on Nov. 15, Sean Grimsley, a lawyer for the plaintiffs, emphasized their argument that “engaging in insurrection” did not require taking up arms. Mr. Trump “took many overt and voluntary acts that furthered the insurrection,” he said.

    The Constitution “has no weapons. It commands no armies,” he said. “Section 3 of the 14th Amendment is one of the few self-defense mechanisms that that document has, and it stands for the unremarkable proposition that a person who takes an oath to support the Constitution and then turns around to attack it should not be allowed to take the oath a second time.”

  94. larry kurtz 2023-11-17 17:27

    Prosecutors are asking a Fulton County judge to schedule Donald Trump’s election interference trial for Aug. 5, 2024, three months before the general election.

  95. larry kurtz 2023-11-17 18:11

    Just now.

    BREAKING: A judge just ruled that Donald Trump engaged in insurrection on January 6th, however did not remove him from the ballot under the 14th Amendment in our Colorado case.

    Much more coming soon.

  96. Mike Zitterich 2023-11-17 18:46

    The Self Employment Excise Tax and FICA Excise Tax were both established as part of the 1954 Internal Revenue Tax Act. Again, both Excise Taxes fund Social Security and Medicare, both are assessed on your “net income”. Obviously, the FICA being a “payroll tax”, and because Self Employed Workers are mainly “Business People” of whom contract to the Government to buy and sell services, the Social Security and Medicare Taxes are always ‘assessed’ a their NET INCOME. Where the Self Employed Worker transfers a portion of their net income to their contracted W-4 or W-9 workers, to whom are ‘assets’ of the company, the Self Employed Worker is then liable to assess the FICA Tax, Unemployment Tax, and Workman Compensation Fee on their W-4 Employee’s Gross Wage, which is an portion of the Self Employed Worker’s Net Income. To all those W-9 Workers the Self Employed Worker is subcontracting out labor to, they merely report on their 1040 that they paid the money to a W-9 Worker. The balance of the Self Employed Workers Net Income is then assessed a Self Employed Excise Tax, thus contributing to their own Social Security and Medicare Trust Accounts. The Self Employed Worker gets to deduct 50% of the Self Employment Tax as a Personal Deduction.

    DO NOT ever question me ever, on the Federal Tax Code, I know it way better than anyone on this website. I have studied Title 26 my entire life.

  97. larry kurtz 2023-11-17 18:49

    The judge in Colorado ruled that while Trump engaged and incited insurrection he will remain on the primary ballot but an appeal could disqualify him from the general election.

  98. larry kurtz 2023-11-17 19:08

    Judge finds Trump can remain on ballot in CO but ALSO that he ENGAGED IN INSURRECTION, but *NOT* as an “Officer” of the US under Section III of the Fourteenth Amendment.

  99. larry kurtz 2023-11-17 19:11

    Trump may run for the nomination but his appearance on the general election ballots in Colorado and Minnesota is liked doomed.

  100. larry kurtz 2023-11-17 20:07

    Judge: First Amendment didn’t shield Trump because he “acted with the specific intent to incite political violence and direct it at the Capitol.”

    “Trump cultivated a culture that embraced political violence through his consistent endorsement of the same”

    But it came down to how the provision referred to govt officials who could be covered and the offices they could be barred from. Judge found text + historical record + other parts of the Constitution didn’t support applying it to a president/the presidency

  101. Arlo Blundt 2023-11-17 21:32

    A total stretch of logic by the Colorado Judge….a bit of mental acrobatics in league with Mr. Zitterich…the English language just isn’t that complicated.

  102. grudznick 2023-11-17 21:42

    Mr. Zitterich, you said:

    DO NOT ever question me ever, on the Federal Tax Code, I know it way better than anyone on this website. I have studied Title 26 my entire life.

    grudznick questions you. You do not know the federal tax code better than others on this blogging place. If you disagree, I double dog dare you to come out to Rapid City and prove it to me. If you do not, I will have others DO THE FULL MONTY in your front yard. My close personal friend Lar will do it, don’t egg him on, and HE LIKES ALL CAPS. Just like you.

    If your car yard was open, I bet that’s where he’d do it, too. Your car yard is closed, right?

  103. e platypus onion 2023-11-18 08:22

    Zit is so full of caca his eyes are brown, or green, if he has consumed copious amounts of green grass.

  104. e platypus onion 2023-11-18 08:28

    Is FICA and Social Security tax the same thing?
    The Social Security tax is one of two taxes all employers are required to withhold under the Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA). The other is the Medicare Tax. FICA also mandates an Additional Medicare tax, though only for employees earning more than a set dollar amount.

    They are not the same tax. Never challenge me again as I know more about caca when I see/hear it than you ever will.

  105. Mike Zitterich 2023-11-18 08:59

    You people can think all you want. I am correct, and this conversation is over. Social Security Tax of 12.4% plus the Medicare Tax of 2.9% is a combined 15.3% Excise Tax that is assessed to everyone’s NET INCOME. According to the 1954 Internal Revenue Act, which amended the 1939 Public Salary Tax (the tax code) – it contracts these two taxes under the Self Employment Tax 15.3% assessed to people like me @ 15.3%. For those of us who contracts out and hires a W-4 Employee, of whom distributes a portion of our Net Income to “Employed Workers”, we are contracted to the Federal Government to assess the Payroll Taxes to include FICA 15.3% (50% paid by the Employee), the Unemployment Tax, and Workman Compensation Fees. Notice, that Self Employed Workers like myselt collects 7.65% FICA Tax from our employees, while paying the other 7.65% ourselves, while remitting the Unemployment Tax to the State Government, who keeps the revenue in a TRUST to be utilized for where the Employed Workers put in claims against it, and the Business General Liability Insurance Company collects the Workers Compensation Tax (Fee) from us, of who provides to the Employeed that defined benefit payment where applicable.

    NOTICE: Self Employed Workers get to deduct 50% of their Self Employment Tax as a personal deduction prior to assessing the Federal Income Tax, while their portion of the FICA PAYMENT is also a business deduction, where as EMPLOYEES cannot claim their 7.65% as a personal deduction.

    DO NOT EVER QUESTION ME AGAIN – I know more about TITLE 26 than any of you, and I am more respectful than most all of you.

  106. e platypus onion 2023-11-18 10:26

    Don’t ever challenge me again because you are so,full of caca del toro, swine, sheep, horse and poultry. I am correct and Mexico still has not paid for drumpf’s wall in part or in full and never will!

  107. WillyNilly 2023-11-18 11:07

    Please stop encouraging MZ by replying to his nonsense. Ignore him, he’s only here to get your attention, mostly negative. I don’t read his posts and I don’t read the posts that reference his posts. I used to enjoy the contributions of folks here. He’s a spoiler and he is dragging everyone to the bottom.

  108. Mike Zitterich 2023-11-18 14:26

    WillyNilly is correct, My job is to Present to the World how Woke the Democrat Party has become. I will give this man a lot of credit being honest, and that is the way it should be. Sadly, he misses out on the truth – I know the tax laws, and I know how Mexico paid heavily for building the Wall. Mexico lost out on millions of tax revenues due to the Trump tarrifs being set higher, more fair, and for increasing transaction fees assessed to Mexicans doing business inside America, where we collect a FEE where they transfer money across the borders to Mexico. Democrats are WOKE MINDED PEOPLE.

  109. e platypus onion 2023-11-18 15:49

    Zit’s eyes have so many different kinds of caca in them they are determined to be tutti-fruitti color. As long as I can still, comment, I will not let liars invade Cory’s blog with unchallenged lies, whether Willy Nilly or anyone else likes it or not.

    Mexico has not. did not/ will not pay for drumpf’s fiasco on the border.

  110. Donald Pay 2023-11-18 17:19

    Some folks see “woke” as some sort of problem. I don’t. Most of the people who yammer on and on about others being woke don’t have a clue what it means. The definition of “woke” is “to be aware of social and political issues.” I think we all want voters to be aware of various issues that affect them. Mike Z., for example, makes a point of trying to convince us he is very aware of political and social issues. He tries to show us how “woke” he is about “woke.” The thing is he doesn’t have a clue.

    Because the term was used first in the black community, “woke” has been used there to indicate a particular reference to racial issues. Because admitted racists, like Mike Z., don’t approve of people becoming aware of such issues, they try to make it seem that people who are aware of them are scary. They are scared of people being aware themselves, so they don’t want anyone else to be woke. They start censoring books, then banning them, then burning them. And then they get around to rounding up the people who write the books.

    That’s what ought to be scary to everyone because it’s the sort of thing that fascists always do before they start executing people.

  111. Curt 2023-11-18 17:36

    Excellent explanation and analysis by Mr. Pay of “woke-ism”.

  112. larry kurtz 2023-11-18 20:16

    Driving Mr. Zitterich from Cory’s sidebar is my favorite thing.

  113. Arlo Blundt 2023-11-18 20:45

    Remember Mr. Zitterick–TAKE YOUR MEDICATION.

  114. CK 2023-11-18 21:17

    I agree with Arlo.

  115. grudznick 2023-11-18 21:35

    Mr. Zitterich, you typed:

    DO NOT EVER QUESTION ME AGAIN – I know more about TITLE 26 than any of you, and I am more respectful than most all of you.

    1) grudznick is questioning you again. You are flawed, like a computer talking itself to death on that show Lar likes, the Star Treks. grudznick is questioning you, yet again. What say you to that?
    2) You are not more respectful than grudznick. Your inane and insane repeating of your spectrum disorders using ALL CAPS makes you a liar right there, young sir.

    I sure wish I could get a car ride to your junk yard in Sioux Falls to really see what sort of a bung show you are living in. The fire at Husets must have really triggered your spectrum disorders to reach up from your bowels and put a real twisty squeeze on your cortex.

  116. grudznick 2023-11-18 21:59

    Mr. Zitterich, there are fellows in the “deep lore” who seem to have outed you around 2 years ago. Did this push you over the edge? grudznick would like to buy you a breakfast and learn more.

  117. Mike Zitterich 2023-11-18 22:26

    I do not take people on social media seriously, many of these social misfits on rants and raves, or on other liberal social media sites are loud mouthbs, and spout lies about people. I am not racist, I am not a sexist, I am not a flaming fairy, and I am a hard working, person who makes a strong effort to help my customers find decent cheap cars that run, drive, and provide them a list of issues that need to be fixed, while working with them, thanks to my dad owning repair shop, I can offer then excellent discounts on labor and parts, that help save them money, and earning their trust. I really do not care about what people say about me on social media that cannot even use their real name, and this one final comment is addressed to Mr. Grudznick – if you ever, say anything as much as negative comment about dad’s fire again as you just did, you will never be allowed online again in the future. You are a sick, twisted, prick, who bashes people, and slanders people. YOU are no better than Ditca. GROW UP.

  118. Dicta 2023-11-19 07:01

    “Never be allowed online again in the future.”

    “I’m not nuts,” he says. “You guys are just deflecting,” he says. And slander is FALSE statements, you loon.

  119. larry kurtz 2023-11-19 07:36

    Taunting Mike Zitterich is like torturing a puppy. We should stop.

  120. grudznick 2023-11-19 07:48

    This morning, at the Conservatives with Common Sense breakfasting, we will debate the relative merits of the Black Hills Speedway 360 Sprint Class races vs. the IMCA Modified ones. Or perhaps we will debate the Inflation Reduction Act and its failures, as touted by the Democrat fellows in our legislatures recently. Please read up on this law bill, because grudznick is not allowed online anymore, after Gary’s car fire that probably wasn’t his fault.

  121. BobJ 2023-11-22 08:06

    M Zitt, if you are claiming to be a christian, and a trump supporter,you have some serious short circuits in your brain. I can see why you have to bloviate about your superior knowledge. It helps to keep your “superior brain” from turning into a puddle. The morals,ethics, total lack of decency, should keep trump out of office,ever again. However, people like Zitt, just don’t get it. Yes I know how to capitalize , but trump does not deserve that much respect from me. The reason the USA and Russia have not been attacked is nuclear, it has nothing to do with religion. Have a delusional day Zitt.

  122. larry kurtz 2023-12-01 14:15

    With Mrs. Pressler’s passing maybe Senator Pressler will have more time and join Sen. Mitt Romney in ending Herr Trump’s candidacy.

    Since primaries are party affairs secretaries of state have ruled they don’t have the authority to block Herr Trump from primary ballots but likely will revisit his incitement to insurrection before the 2024 general election.

  123. M 2023-12-02 09:48

    Back to the topic, I feel 100% safe with Biden in office because of his Life experience. 81 is not old, look at Loma Linda California which is a blue zone. Cap all politicians age at 80 and you’d be in trouble.

    I am caregiver for two 93-year-old elders, and both are sharp as tacks. In fact, Doc could wrestle Zit to the ground while teaching him a thing or two about history. These two elders are from different socioeconomic backgrounds yet both experienced the rise of Hitler, sent friends and relative off to war and lost many. They experienced rationing of resources, skipping meals, and eating things Zit and Grudz would throw out. They’ve outlived most of their friends, are still active in the community, and DO NOT sit around and whine. They are truly grateful for being alive. They both fear Trump.

    Life’s experiences are more important than age. I’d vote for either one of my 93-year-old elders than anyone else I know. They really are wise.

  124. larry kurtz 2023-12-02 10:00

    Exactly. War criminal, Henry Kissinger was a consultant right up to his welcome into Hell.

  125. e platypus onion 2023-12-06 12:02

    Taunting Mike Zitterich is like torturing a puppy. We should stop.

    I personally don’t like puppies or kittens or hypocrite Zit.

  126. e platypus onion 2023-12-06 12:26

    Chinless wimp and magat punching bag, kevin mccarthy will resign from congress at the end of the year.

  127. larry kurtz 2023-12-06 14:42

    Hey epo, the Nevada AG just announced indictments in the Trump fake elector scheme.

    The six Nevadans were signatories of documents in which they posed as the duly qualified electors for the state of Nevada in an effort to disrupt the results of a free and fair presidential election.

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