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VPs, Graham, Former Warsaw Pact Nations Understand Noem Flat Wrong on Ukraine

South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem is lucky that Florida Governor Ron DeSantis drowned out her unpatriotic Russia-coddling with his own chickenly dismissal of America’s moral and geopolitical imperative to help Ukraine stand against Russian aggression. Otherwise, Vice-President Kamala Harris might be roasting Noem as an inexperienced state official who ought to study foreign policy before opening her big yap and selling out vital allies and principles for points on Fox News:

“If you really understand the issues, you probably would not make statements like that,” Harris said Wednesday night on “The Late Show with Stephen Colbert.”

…The vice president chalked the comments up to what she said was DeSantis’ lack of experience on the world stage, contrasting her own experience meeting with world leaders with that of a regional lawmaker.

When you have that experience, you understand the need to stand “firm and clear about the significance of sovereignty and territorial integrity, the significance of standing firm against any nation that would try to take by force another nation,” Harris said [Matt Berg, “Harris Blasts DeSantis over Ukraine Remarks, Lack of Experience,” Politico, 2023.03.16].

Harris’s predecessor in the big Senate chair, Mike Pence, thinks Noem’s suggested turn away from Ukraine would bring disaster for freedom worldwide:

The war in Ukraine is not a territorial dispute. It’s a Russian invasion. It’s just the latest instance of Russia attempting to redraw international lines by force, and the United States of America must continue at a quickened pace to provide the Ukrainian military the support that they need to repel the Russian invasion, and the stakes are that high. This is, this is a test of American leadership, And a test, frankly, of the free world. As the leader of the free world, as the arsenal of Democracy, America needs to continue to ensure that the Ukrainian military has what they need. Anybody that thinks that Vladimir Putin will stop if he overruns Ukraine has another thing coming, Jon. And there’s no doubt in my mind, that the Baltics could be next. That what Putin is about, is reasserting that old Soviet sphere of influence in Eastern Europe. And the difference would be once he crosses into a NATO country we’ll have no choice but to send American service members into harm’s way. Now we can do as Ronald Reagan said we can, we can provide freedom fighters in their own countries, the resources to repel aggression there so that we don’t have to fight ’em here with our own soldiers. And that’s what we need to continue to do in Ukraine. I’ll continue to be a voice for that [Mike Pence, interviewed by Jonathan Karl, ABC: This Week, 2023.03.19].

Absent DeSantis’s heat shield, Noem would have been taking fire from Senator Lindsey Graham for completely misreading how sticking up for Ukraine is also sticking up for Taiwan:

He added that DeSantis “has got much to be proud of as governor,” but said, “I think any Republican that goes down the Biden road of trying to, you know, go weak in the face of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, is inviting more aggression.”

Graham said of Trump, who he’s already endorsed for 2024, “If he got to be president again — I really do believe Putin wouldn’t have invaded on his watch — but I’ve told President Trump that if you don’t see a nexus between China going after Taiwan, and Russia going into Ukraine, you’re not watching very closely” [Elizabeth Elkind, “Graham Accuses DeSantis of ‘Taking the Chinese Position’ on Ukraine in Calling War a ‘Territorial Dispute’,” Fox News, 2023.03.19].

While Noem frets about Russia maybe lobbing nuclear missiles at Pierre if we get too uppity with Putin, countries directly in the crosshairs of Russia’s ultimate European strategy aren’t rolling over; Poland and Slovakia are sending fighter jets to help Ukraine:

Slovakia approved a plan to send a fleet of 13 MiG-29 fighter jets to Ukraine, a day after Poland became the first NATO country to say it would send warplanes to Ukraine.

“Promises must be kept & when @ZelenskyyUa asked for more #weapons incl. fighter jets, I said we’ll do our best,” Prime Minister Eduard Heger tweeted, adding that he was glad other nations were doing the same.

Poland’s President Andrzej Duda announced Thursday that the country plans to give Ukraine about a dozen MiG-29 fighter jets. That announcement marked the first time an ally of Ukraine said it would provide warplanes in the fight against Russia. Poland and Slovakia’s back-to-back decisions will likely apply pressure on other Western nations to provide military aircraft amid pleas from Ukraine ahead of a likely counter-offensive this Spring [Sanya Mansoor, “Ukraine Is Getting MiG-29 Fighter Jets from Poland and Slovakia. Here’s Why That Matters,” Time, 2023.03.17].

This isn’t Poland or Slovakia’s first rodeo with Russia. They lived under Russian occupation for half of the 20th century, and they aren’t waiting for the bear to come knocking on their doors again. They are sending real firepower to help Ukraine knock the bear back to its lair.

Poland, Slovakia, Graham, Pence, and Harris get Russia and the threat to Western civilization posed by its invasion of Ukraine. DeSantis and Noem do not.

10 Comments

  1. John 2023-03-19 10:46

    Noem’s tacit support of Putin dooms her last dream of a national office; as if her incompetence in a state office was not enough to doom her further office holding.
    In case one NEEDS further reference of who’s the dictator and the global threat of authoritarians, glance at this other dictator dandying around Mariupol.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/11vknev/another_dictator_also_visited_mariupol_once_we/

    Governor Chris Sununu, New Hampshire-R, clarions that Putin apologists in his party lost their moral compass. The correct argument is likely that folks like Noem and DeSantis and trump lack a moral compass. And see Sununu’s interview on CNNs, State of the Nation, 3/19.
    Paywall and gift article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/03/18/chris-sununu-ukraine-republican-party/

  2. Loren 2023-03-19 10:51

    At least Sarah Palin could “see Russia from her house.” Kristi doesn’t even have those qualifications.

  3. Tim 2023-03-19 11:00

    The snow queen is really going to be bummed when she doesn’t even get an invitation to be VP to one of her MAGAat heros.

  4. Mark Anderson 2023-03-19 11:10

    At least DeSantis has the excuse of being a shortstop. He can’t see the entire picture. A barrel racer is the same.

  5. larry kurtz 2023-03-19 12:47

    At about half of California’s GDP Russia is virtually irrelevant in the global marketplace and destined to be a Chinese client state sooner than later. This presentation from Richard Wolff aired on Santa Fe Public Radio yesterday. If you can find it for free it’s worth a listen.

  6. Arlo Blundt 2023-03-19 13:47

    Russia vs. Ukraine?? Not a tough call. I’d hate to see Governor Noem’s brackets. She’s out of the running in the first round.

  7. Jeff 2023-03-19 16:51

    Tucker works for the Kremlin Kristie, to bad to see another office holder fall into his pit. Jeff Young America Mn.

  8. Richard Schriever 2023-03-19 20:34

    Don’t the “conservative” MAGATS like to characterize migration to the US as a sort of “territorial dispute”? Talen to its logical extension (good luck figuring out MAGAT logic patterns) that would mean – we don’t need to be building no stinkin’ walls – right?

  9. DaveFN 2023-03-19 22:28

    Get a load of Rounds’ maneuver by his twisting the interpretation that the Ukranian invasion by Putin is “more than just a territorial dispute” not because it’s flat out and simple an invasion, but by Rounds’ displacing and deflecting the entire discourse onto, not surprisingly , China, consistent with Noem’s recent blather:

    “Look, I don’t think it’s a territorial dispute. While he may be taking territory, and it’s technically accurate to say that there’s territory being taken, this is bigger than that for us. I focus on what our major issues are. And number one, China is our near-peer competitor. They are our focus right now. Russia is right behind them. But in this particular case you have a couple of items that bring it all together in the big picture. Number one, when we pulled out of Afghanistan the way that we did that sent a message to both Xi Jinping and to Putin that we were withdrawing from the international scene and that maybe they could test the waters about whether or not we would actually exercise our capabilities internationally in the future. So taking out the issue of Afghanistan, and then moving into the fact that Putin now tests the waters by walking in or attempting to take over a sovereign state right next to them that we had back in 1995 agreed that they would have sovereignty over that specific part of the land. Well, Xi Jinping looks at that and says, ‘I’m going to watch this very carefully’ because Xi Jinping would like Taiwan. And he’s already committed that one way or another he’s going to get it back. He wants to see how we respond and whether or not we can keep our allies together, whether or not NATO stays together, or whether or not it strengthens NATO. So this is a bigger picture than just territory. ”

    On today’s Meet The Press. https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-march-19-2023-n1303615

  10. sx123 2023-03-19 22:49

    This is going to spiral out of control. Should have been put to bed years ago.

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