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Bout-Butina Interview Filled with Russian Lies

An eager reader sends me this riotous video of Russian gun activist, spy, frequent South Dakota tourist, and now legislator Maria Butina interviewing Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout. The propaganda clips are chock full of Putinist lies that his dupes in the West will mostly lap up:

  1. Butina says Bout was imprisoned in America without any trial or investigation.
  2. Bout says the American prison system was created by Nazis brought to the U.S. in Operation Paperclip (which began in 1944, several years after the establishment of the first prisons in the United States).
  3. Bout says his torture included a menu that, “based on Nazi practices,” consisted of hamburger and overcooked fried every Wednesday, gigantic chicken legs every Thursday, and no garlic, dill, parsley, or wild strawberries for ten years.
  4. Bout says his imprisonment was an experiment on one individual designed to prefigure America’s attack on Russia: “Everything that happened to me is now happening to our country.”
  5. Bout claims his court-appointed attorney, Sabrina Shroff, dressed  provocatively and flaunted her breasts in front of him to lure him into cooperating with investigators. (The video captures no comment from Bout on Butina’s posture at the conclusion of the interview.)
  6. Bout says he totally supports Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and would volunteer to fight in what he suggests is an effort to keep the Anglo-Saxon-controlled West from dragging Russia and the rest of the world into its “suicide of civilization”.
  7. Butina presses Bout to express a preference for either Joe Biden or Donald Trump. Bout evades those questions, saying the two men are like Diet Pepsi and Coke Zero. “We pay far too much attention to American politics,” says Bout, in perhaps the only non-horsehockey portion of his chat with Butina. “Guys, let’s deal with our own internal problems.”
  8. Butina, ever determined to press Putin’s anti-American disinformation, asks, “Will there be a revolution in America?” Bout says, “Unfortunately, I don’t believe there will be a revolution.” He points to the treatment of the participants in the January 6, 2021, insurrection, with American authorities imprisoning 1200–1300 people “without anything at all. And for what? They didn’t kill anyone. They just beat some people up, didn’t even start a fire.”
  9. Bout says “there is now reverse racism in America.” Shouting out to incels everywhere, Bout says, “It’s very difficult to be a normal white person who wants a family and children, who wants love.”

If Bout and Butina can peddle enough Putinist propaganda to provoke an American revolution, you can bet that Bout will come back to America, selling arms to both sides.


  1. Mr.Sol 2022-12-11

    One thing about Biden, he was able to make this trade. If Trump had done so, he would have immediately been accused of Russian collusion.

  2. larry kurtz 2022-12-11

    Quick reminder: American industrialists like Prescott Bush ushered the Third Reich into power. George Weasel Bush created the Islamic State and ordered troops out of Iraq at the end of his failed tenure. The United States is a rogue nation and longtime sponsor of global terrorism. Zionists, terrorists, war criminals: just a few truths being spoken to power. Ted Kaczynski knew it all along: America is killing the rest of the world just to enrich the richest one percent.

  3. P. Aitch 2022-12-11

    “It’s very difficult to be a normal white person who wants a family and children, who wants love.”
    What’s the difference between a normal person and a normal white person?

  4. larry kurtz 2022-12-11

    Sensationalism led to the Great Sioux Wars. American yellow journalism led to the Spanish-American War. Propaganda drove American fervor for both so-called World Wars. The CIA’s Bay of Pigs led to the assassination of JFK. The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was an American false flag to convince John Q. Public to escalate the War in Vietnam.

    But, how I do go on….

  5. sx123 2022-12-11

    I totally believe he didn’t get wild strawberries, so some truth in there :)

  6. Mark Anderson 2022-12-11

    He’s right it is difficult to be a normal white person in trumpland. Now that he’s back in Putinville, maybe he will go to Ukraine and get a bullet put in his brain. Of course he won’t really fight in Ukraine but he will work behind the scenery where it’s easy. He is the undertaker after all, money to be made on death and dying.
    Butina I’m sure misses the gun shows in So. Dak. It’s surprising that she went to South Dakota in the first place. Those Russkie spies aren’t that dumb are they? She got off almost free, we need to hold these people for trade. She is now a Duma member. For her it was as easy as infiltrating the NRA. American conservatives are pretty Duma themselves.
    Maria’s old fraudster boyfriend was convicted but pardoned by Trumps. One fraudster to another. They both had those east European girls what can you say?

  7. Bonnie B Fairbank 2022-12-11

    This video is so goofy and incomprehensible, I did not understand anything about it.

    Then I heard two (avowed, proud, and loud) Jehovah’s Witnesses, whom I know, discussing the Brittney Griner exchange in the parking lot next to the Hot Springs Ministerial Food Pantry.

    “She’s just a lesbo culluhd girl. Why would anyone swap her for a white man?”

    Don’t believe the nonsense that JWs are apolitical or color blind.

  8. larry kurtz 2022-12-11

    Get a pretty girl in eff me pumps with a gun in her grip and you can sell anything to Republican men.

  9. Mark Anderson 2022-12-11

    You know Bonnie, the Jehovah’s are really strange. We had breakfast at a local French bakery had to sit with other people and the next day those “people” came to our house with their two little magazines. I don’t get it, they believe they will be saved, but they believe it’s such a small number who will be saved, why are they out recruiting more people? It’s a conundrum for sure. It was also most annoying. We thought those two women were so nice at the bakery, but it was completely a ploy for recruitment. They had to look up our address. JWs, Mormons, High School teachers turned insurance agents, it’s a mess. Everybody’s selling something. After our hurricane, we’ve had to fight off roof repairers, window replace people, screen replacement, even strump grinders. Although I love the term stump grinder. The race thing is true, but wasn’t Michael Jackson a JW? That adds a whole layer to the JWs. At least their nice to children.

  10. P. Aitch 2022-12-11

    @Mark – I’m reading the Carl Hiaasen book “Stormy Weather”; a humorous novel about all the con men and stump grinders that appear in Florida after hurricanes. Hiaasen once noted that criminals flow south like an overflowing outdoor toilet until eventually they all end up in Florida. 🦩 😄

  11. Arlo Blundt 2022-12-11

    Well…there’s a common thread here as we remark about Jehovah Witnesses, Ms. Butina, Mr. Bout, Dusty, the NRA, and Ted Kaczynski. Social Isolation, a need to belong, and the ability of sociopaths to exploit that human need. I don’t know where wild strawberries fit but a love of garlic probably leads to social isolation. Dusty was so immersed in right wing Republican nonsense, he was vulnerable to the advances of Ms. Buttina, who is no kind of beauty. Her cover story, that she was an advocate for gun ownership by Russian citizens, was totally unbelievable, as unbelievable as the JW version of the “end times.” You just can’t underestimate how gullible people in the US really are.

  12. Arlo Blundt 2022-12-11

    And to prove my point about gullibility, I just read that Spencer Gosch broke his ankle by jumping off a cliff on the northern coast of Oahu. He was accompanied in cliff jumping by Jamie Smith. You can’t make this stuff up.

  13. grudznick 2022-12-11

    Ms. P.h, as a reader of the teenage audience targeting author, Mr. Hiaasen, I imagine you often that you imagine grudznick as some sort of Skink character. Once my book club took an easy-read of “Stormy Weather,” instead of the heavy brow tomes we are usually forced to wade through. You’ll enjoy it, young lady.

  14. John 2022-12-11

    Arlo, no wonder the SD legislature is incapable of disciplining the SD executive branch with reasonable oversight. The SD legislature appears incapable of self discipline. Wasting our money sending lame duck legislators to a ‘training’ venue is the epitome of wasteful spending and corruption.
    Now I’m glad Smith lost for he shows little evidence that his administration would improve on Noem’s malfeasance.

  15. P. Aitch 2022-12-11

    You’re no Skink, grudznichts. You have a self inflating delusion of grandeur no doubt cased my mean Catholic nuns as childhood mentors.

  16. bearcreekbat 2022-12-12

    Bonnie’s expeience with Jehovah Witnesses is a bit inconsistent with my personal experiences. I have known and interacted many Jehovah’s Witnesses and have not experienced any racism or sexim, rather, the folks I had contact generally expressed a caring attitude about other people. Bonnie’s experience got me wondering if perhaps I had met the outliers. That doesn’t appear to be the case according to reports from Pew Research, at least as to race and gender:

    Jehovah’s Witnesses are among the most racially and ethnically diverse religious groups in America. No more than four-in-ten members of the group belong to any one racial and ethnic background: 36% are white, 32% are Hispanic, 27% are black and 6% are another race or mixed race.

    Most Jehovah’s Witnesses – roughly two-thirds (65%) – are women, while only 35% are men. . . . .

    These characteristics do not seem to describe anyone that might see a white male as more valuable than a black or a girl.

    Like most other more mainstream religions such as Lutheran-Missouiri Synod, Methodista, Catholics, Baptists, Islam, Orthodox Judism, Mormans and fundalmentalist Christians, however, apparently the majority of Jehovah’s Witness believers also do condemn homosexuality. Perhaps that was the factor that bothered Bonnie’s acquaintances rather than the race or gender of Griner.

    Homosexuality has become a divisive issue in many religions and congregations. Like many other fundamentalist denominations, Jehovah’s Witnesses condemns homosexual acts, thoughts, and feelings. Consequently, gay and lesbian Witnesses experience not just stigmatization and conflict between their sexual and religious identities in the social world, but also a nearly impossible task in their inner world.

  17. P. Aitch 2022-12-12

    Below is another link to a graph of how specific religious groups view homosexuality. (Jehovah Witnesses, as a group, are only 17% accepting of LGBTQ Americans.)
    – I believe that anti-LGBTQ religious choices are because this minority group can’t have children, which can be manipulated to become larger donors to that particular religion.)

  18. leslie 2022-12-12


    In the wake of the sedition trial’s collapse, Justice Department prosecutor John Rogge travels overseas and uncovers a bombshell. He finds evidence of a coordinated effort to subvert American democracy… as well as the names of high-profile Americans involved. Rogge then returns to America… and goes rogue. Risking his career as a prosecutor, he makes public what he’s discovered about the fascist threat and the Americans who supported it. And he offers a prescient warning about an American criminal justice system that is ill-equipped to defend democracy from those who seek to destroy it.


    — SPOTTED at Matt and Mercy Schlapp’s annual Christmas party at their Alexandria home on Friday night: Justice Brett Kavanaugh, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) and Ginger Gaetz, Sean Spicer, Alex Acosta, Sebastian Gorka, Stephen and Katie Miller, Chad Wolf, Greta Van Susteren and John Coale, Laura Schlapp and Bryan Wells, Brendan Carr, Rep.-elect George Santos (R-N.Y.), Erin and Nick Perrine, Erik Prince, Ziad Ojakli, Peter Davidson, Steve Holland and Ben Terris.

  19. larry kurtz 2022-12-12

    Earth hater, Mike Sanborn wrote an exceptionally nasty pack of lies about Leonard Peltier at the Black Hills Pioneer so propaganda is hardly unique to Russia.

  20. Bonnie B Fairbank 2022-12-12


    I was surprised by the partial conversation I overheard because I hadn’t heard a person say “culluhd” since I left Indiana in 1973. I do know some JWs are intolerant of homosexuality; you shoulda heard the uproar when “Brokeback Mountain” finally made it to Hot Springs.

  21. Mark Anderson 2022-12-12

    P.Aitch, they do end up in Florida. The law here doesn’t allow your residence to be taken away by any action against you. No matter what you’ve done. Why do you think Trump moved here? Break the law, get caught, use all your money to buy a big property in Florida. Al Capone to Trump, that’s Florida.

  22. P. Aitch 2022-12-12

    I’m on my way, Mark. New Years Eve in Florida, this year. Can’t wait. Then a week at DisneyWorld. Then another week or more on the Gulf coast. 🦩🌴😊

  23. bearcreekbat 2022-12-13

    Bonnie, I can just imagine the reaction to Brokeback. In 1980 the movie Cruising, a movie focusing on crimes against gays, came to Rapid City. At that time the scuttlebutt in legal circles claimed local States Attorney, Richard “Dick” Churchwell, apparently was extraordinarily bothered by that film and another film in town at the same time, Monty Python’s Life of Brian. As I recall the stories, Mr. Chuchwell reportedly was threatening to bring Common Law Blasphamy criminal charges against the theaters unless they stopped showing both of these films. This tactic failed and the theaters continued showing the films because there were no longer any so-called :Common Law crimes” in South Dakota. All the threats seemed to accomplish was to increase the business for the theatres by bringing greater public attention to these movies thus stimulating interest and curiosity in seeing them.

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