What’s the difference between Donald Trump and Representatives Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, Ihlan Omar, and Ayanna Pressley?
Those four women of color have the gall to say that America belongs to them too.
Donald Trump has the gall to say that America belongs to him alone.
The racist occupant of the White House further stains the carpet by claiming that elected Representatives of the American people should leave the country rather than critique our nation’s policies. Those targeted Representatives responded yesterday to Trump’s “ideology of othering” with well-considered words worthy of public democratic discourse aimed at reassuring our children of America’s real values and redirecting our attention to the real policies this country needs:
When I was a little girl, my father took me to the reflecting pool here. We were on a roadtrip from New York to Florida as a family…. It was my first time ever visiting Washington D.C…. He rested me on the side of the Reflecting Pool and had my toes dip in the water, and he had me look at the Washington Monument, had me look at the Capitol, had me look at the entirety of the capital of our great country. And he looked at everything and he pointed to all of it, and he said, “This belongs to all of us. This belongs to you and it belongs to me.”
And so the first note that I want to tell children across this country is that no matter what the President says, this country belongs to you, and it belongs to everyone.
…We don’t leave the things that we love. When we love this country, what that means is that we propose the solutions to fix it. We love all people in this country, and that’s why we believe health care is a human right. We love all children in this country, and because we do, that’s why we fight for education for all children through college [Representative Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, press conference, 2019.07.15]
These women are Americans. These women love America. These women are qualified to run America; the current occupant of the White House is only qualified to run America down.
There are many who voted for President Trump who want to jump ship and it’s up to us not to stop them by doing the wrong thing.
~ Here’s How To Lose to The Donald … (my ongoing series)
7. Put lots more focus on Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
If we want Trump for four more years by no means allow voters to hear more about centrists who ACTUALLY swung the House, like Abigail Spanberger in Virginia, Mikie Sherrill in New Jersey or Dean Phillips in Minnesota. Trump wants nothing more than to make AOC and THE SQUAD the face of our Democratic Party. You can make it happen, South Dakota.
Look at Lindsey Graham to see which way the wind blows for trump/republicans. He was at 16% approval rating in his home state when he was critical of trump. Graham has tossed all of his scruples behind him and is now at 74% approval rating for his blind support of trump. trump/republicans, like Rounds, Thune and the Dust Bunny, will not allow South Dakota to be driven from the racist hate. The proof is that they have said nothing so they condone racism as much as their leader.
The “squad” speaks for me. They are spot on and centrist Democrats better get a grip or they will screw up another election by waiting for unicorns to appear to save the country. Blue Dog Democrats are really just weak republican sauce that cannot get anything accomplished but to get themselves elected and a nice pension for themselves.
Porter, I know what you’re saying , but this may very well backfire on Trump. He has made it easier for the DFL to do Minority outreach. All you have to say to minorities is Trump and they’re ready to volunteer and take part in the political system!
Trump may be indeed rallying his newly named Racist Party, but he has also fired up voters that are desperately ready to vote him out.
Get ready for a wild ride.
My position is right in the middle of Porter and jerry. Democrats should put the focus on their positions, explain them, modify them as necessary. I like a good discussion of issues and you get that by allowing people to be creative in public and not squelching spirited discussions by insisting on orthodoxy, closed door “discussions” or censoring ideas because you are concerned about “winning.” And that goes both ways. One of the reasons I don’t like the Berniebots is they want to shut off discussion. It’s their way, or they are going home.
The progressive wing has been a lot more active in developing and publicizing their positions, in part because they come from districts that allow more freewheeling, think-out-loud discussions. Every progressive has their own idea about this, that and the other thing and they tend to be vocal. Moderates tend to be more circumspect, and see the difficulties in carrying out policies. It’s nice to say “Medicare For All,” but it ain’t going to happen.
The lesson of the last three years is that Trump and the righty media will find any boogeyman or woman to be a target. Bullies tend to be insecure about themselves. People who are insecure often find a target that is less likely to gain support from others. Racism seems to be a way that bullies and people who are insecure about themselves have to uplift themselves in their own eyes. The way to defeat bullying and racism is never to back down to it. Trump’s bullying and racism must be met head on, and addressed every time it happens.
Trump is a fascist, and you don’t defeat fascism by allowing the fascist to “other” anyone.
The Squad versus the squalid. Drumpf has gone above and beyond the call of duty in criticizing America, especially the GOAT Black Obama.
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/cnns-jake-tapper-reveals-rep-ilhan-omar-has-been-a-citizen-longer-than-melania-trump-has/
Totally true and yet will not resonate with Drumpf’s mow rawn base.
I personally agree with the political views of Jerry and Jenny. But you see, I’m classified by campaign organizers as a “low value voter”. That means I’ve already made up my mind and am solid in my position against Trump. What’s to be gained by spending money, advertising and time addressing and publicly agreeing with my position and the positions of the majority of Democrats? There are enough “high value voters” among previous Trump supporters that need to be addressed, catered to, and swung over to win this thing. Centrism will get them to hold their nose and vote Dem, even if it’s the only time they ever do it. Trump knows psychology and how to lie about us to attract swing voters. We’d be fools not to do the same thing to him.
trump has taking a huge dump on the America I thought I knew. He has filled the airways with hate about our ancestors and their coming to the bright light on the hill called Hope. Even though the Hope was built upon the smoldering ruins of a culture that had democracy long before democracy was cool, here we are.
Native people’s could well ask the question, if we are gonna hate immigrants and want them to leave, then by all means that means white people like trump and his followers. Native folks will hold the door open for them to go.
trump has now declared that people of color are terrorists as he has called the 4 women of color who dared to get elected. Meanwhile, the elected representative and our two wasted senators keep their traps shut on the outrage to show their support of trump and what he says.
So do we all want to continue to work together as a team under rules of equality our Constitution set up, or do we want to have another crack at Balkanization to this country we all call home?
I don’t think saying that there is a way to pay for everything…like free college, eliminating student debt, Medicare for All, a Green New Deal, improving wages, and rebuilding our infrastructure…is really telling the truth.
Given the lack of trust on both sides of the aisle, telling lies only exacerbates that particular lack of trust.
Nevertheless, there is probably a path to making practical improvements (also called progress) in each of these areas. Who doesn’t want better roads, cleaner energy, better health care, and an affordable college degree that leads to fruitful employment? So let’s do what we can, when we can.
Jerry, I’d like to work together. I think that’s the best way. But I’m not working with fascists and racists. I want Trump and his racist squadristi to leave, and the immigrants from Central America to replace them. Trump and his supporters are NOT American. They don’t support American values. They support Russian values.
Actually on the eariler ELCA thread Porter pointed out that Dusty did respond to the Trump comment. Here is his comment as reported by KSFY:
https://www.ksfy.com/content/news/South-Dakota-Congressman-responds-to-President-Trumps-Twitter-comments-512759321.html
My observation on the ELCA thread:
One other observation about McTaggart’s comment. If we truthfully can pay for free public education through the 12th grade, then why would it be untruthful to say we could pay to add in a few more years of public education, whether we call it “college” or simply grades 13-16? It seem we might be hung up on a name instead of the substance of educating our young people.
As they do for Jerry, the Squad speaks for me.
Porter, I dig the tactical point you are making. But as someone who spends a lot of time trying to pull my centrists Democrats back from right-of-center before they give away the farm, I am obliged to defend Ocasio-Cortez and other elected Representatives who targeted with the racist exclusionism of white supremacists like Trump. We must spotlight these women and their policies specifically to challenge the hateful, labeling narrative Trump and other racists use to keep us from talking policy.
These lawmakers belong in America as much as anyone else, and they want to make America better for everyone. Donald Trump is trying to exclude whole swaths of people from America and make what’s left better solely for his gain.
We win by showing America that the face of our party includes these four women and all the centrists Porter listed, and everyone else. We win by showing America that our vision of America includes the pluribus, while Trump’s includes only the unum… and the only way to belong to Trump’s unum is to ceaselessly kiss his keester and never dissent.
Criticize Ocasio-Cortez, and she’ll invite you to a serious discussion. Criticize Trump, and he tells you to leave the country. That difference plays out in South Dakota: I’ve heard multiple SD conservatives tell me and other non-right-wingers that if we don’t like what Republican politics do to our state, we should move to Minnesota. Democrats don’t do that.
I agree that more education is better, whether that be via a college degree or through other means like a technical school. But I don’t think subsidizing that education for everyone for how ever long it takes is feasible. Helping with that education (particularly for state schools) or helping a lot more with the technical schools and community colleges is a better approach.
If you want to pursue your passion through a college degree or at a particular school, then by all means you should be allowed to do so. But too often we are seeing that approach fail to avoid serious student loan debt. There is nothing wrong with double-majoring or minoring in something else as a backup.
I believe in the true liberal arts education. Arts and Humanities students need to take more math and physics to understand the natural world and their place in it. Scientists and Engineers need to take more foreign language, literature, and social sciences to understand people and write well. And that education also means tackling challenging courses and not avoiding them.
Ocasio-Cortez and The Squad don’t need defending. That’s getting in the Trump hogwaller with the political base that defends Trump. I want votes and there aren’t a handful of swing voters who read what we preach here.
McTaggart is almost right. He doesn’t think saying that there is a way to pay for everything…like free college, eliminating student debt, Medicare for All, a Green New Deal, improving wages, and rebuilding our infrastructure…is really telling the truth. There’s a way to pay for those things but it’s a foolish, non-fiscally responsible way. Demanding Medicare For All, Green New Deal, free college, and eliminating debt people signed for are a sure way to lose to Trump. The solutions are a wealth tax. Really. Taxing people’s wealth after the IRS has already examined and taxed it? A 70% income tax on income over a certain threshold? Rich people don’t have to pay those kind of taxes. They can live for decades with little to no income. However, wages and infrastructure are national problems in need of pragmatic solutions.
Robert, there’s a difference between policy disagreements over goals that may not be fully fleshed out and outright lies. I contend Medicare for All would leave Americans with more money in their pocket, as savings on private insurance premiums and deductibles (plus better health outcomes and more efficient use of resources) would outweigh the cost of increased taxes or federal premiums to pay for single-payer. When I say that, I’m not lying. I’m not trying to trick anyone. I’m not flatly denying the content of words that came out of my mouth just a week or a day ago.
Please don’t both-sides this issue. My opening lines should make clear the distinction between the exclusionary, anti-American Trump and the inclusive, patriotic elected Representatives he’s targeting with hateful labels.
I don’t doubt that you want health care costs to be lower or care to be better. But there are underlying issues with health care costs that a simple Medicare for all does not address, and those are the real cost drivers.
The squad are being the grown ups in the room. There are 235 “Democrats” in the House, the Squad represents 4 of 87 committed to putting the articles of impeachment forward. You can bet the remaining conservative Democrats will not bring the number to the 218 need to even start the inquiry. That is the problem with centrist Democrats, they just don’t have the guts to stand for anything, so they stand for nothing. While they stand in the center and waste our time, trump rapes the country of our morals and our dignity.
Porter, polls have shown that the majority of Americans support Medicare for all. That is not extremist thinking, But the idea of Medicare for all scares the hell out of the racist party. So to fight that goal of ever getting to expanding Medicare, the Racists will do everything they can To make these women look bad.
Democrats need to keep the focus on what Americans want economically, But maybe drop the free college tuition idea and change it to Affordable college tuition. Bernie got slammed hard when he came out rallying for free college.
Democrats tend to have too many ideas and the message gets lost in all of it.
Americans just want to be able to afford these things, They don’t want handouts.
Oh and by the way, guess which state has the highest percentage of student debt. Drum 🥁 roll…….South Dakota😕😒🙁😩, Which just makes sense because they have the nations lowest wages, right next to Mississippi Sigh….South Dakota you rank the top when it’s pertaining tosomething negative and hit the bottom when it’s something positive.😮😦. How are those republican values working out for you?
Cory says: “Criticize Ocasio-Cortez, and she’ll invite you to a serious discussion. Criticize Trump, and he tells you to leave the country. That difference plays out in South Dakota: I’ve heard multiple SD conservatives tell me and other non-right-wingers that if we don’t like what Republican politics do to our state, we should move to Minnesota. Democrats don’t do that.”
Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!
The Trumpistas are shallow thinkers, if “thinking” is what they do. Put a flag on a pile of B.S. and have Trump say it’s the most wonderful pie in the world, and that’s all they need to hear. They ask no questions as the feces slides down their gullet. Progressives tend to ask questions and object. If you’re willingly swallowing a pile of B.S. every day, there is something seriously wrong with you.
Many of us South Dakotans became “out-of-staters” because we wouldn’t eat the sh^t Republicans were serving up. We could put up with making two-thirds of what people in other states make, as long as we weren’t forced to eat the B.S.
This is a bizarre blog to me. “Patriots”? Hmmm .. I’m trying to picture Paul Revere or Thomas Jefferson or Abe Lincoln one of the thousands who died detaching us from tyrannical British taxation uttering, “TO EACH ACCORDING TO NEED!” Isn’t the hijab a symbol of the systematic religious oppression of women? And didn’t Omar marry her brother to get him citizenship before brining her dad into the country illegally? What a mess ..
I’m also confused about the Trump racism comment. Racism would be something like, “you’re African, therefore you cannot live here”. What Trump said was, “you’re not happy here, try Africa or some other country”. I think there’s a difference. But racism is the weaponized information dejure these days it seems. http://www.startribune.com/new-documents-revisit-questions-about-rep-ilhan-omar-s-marriage/511681362/
Jenny is right, as far as her statement goes. To extrapolate … Sure, Medicare for All polls well and is wildly popular in MSNBC green rooms. But, unfortunately, when voters find out that (true or not, perception is reality) it would double payroll taxes, cost trillions of dollars and lead to the abolition of private health insurance, support plummets—even among Democratic primary voters. In fact, when Democratic primary voters are told that Medicare for All would cost $3.2 trillion a year, support drops to just 38 percent. And that is among Democrats.
The numbers are even worse with the wider electorate. The Kaiser Tracking Poll found that Medicare for All’s net favorability drops to minus 44 percent “when people hear the argument that this would lead to delays in some people getting some medical tests and treatments.” Voters also turn sharply against the idea when they are told that it would threaten the current Medicare program, require big tax increases and eliminate private health insurance. Count on the GOP to spend hundreds of millions of dollars making those arguments.
*** Do you know what rich people do when you try to tax them more than they and their heirs think is responsible? They calculate the money you’re trying to tax them and donate it to people like Trump. They’ll take the deduction and vote Republican ’til the cows come home.
For Democrats to win on healthcare we must find a way to make the poor pay more and to make the middle class, out of pocket deductibles much less, without raising taxes on the rich.
– Many of us are going to have to release our expectations and suffer a bit more. We have one job. Elect a moderate, centrist President that will move us back to the center both at home and worldwide.
What poll was that Porter, where Democrat support is only 38% for Medicare For All, and where have you read that it would double payroll taxes?
Private Health Insurance companies are never going to go out of business, they are far to big and corrupted to do that. Americans are kind of an ignorant bunch, I think you know that Porter. They have been brainwashed since they were born that anything run by the govt is bad. Medicare is run efficiently and in a year after it ever becomes implemented, Americans will love it, just like their elderly family members. They will grunt a little bit about the higher taxes, but will focus their energy on other perceived threats like liberals taking away their guns.
Cory,
I would say that the politics of the moment leads to one side becoming more extreme in response to the other side’s extremeness…regardless of whether it solves the problem or whether we can pay for it. But I find it disingenuous when we really cannot pay for it. I think people will pay more if they stand to benefit, but there is a limit.
For student debt, working to make things more affordable as Jenny says is a better message. Even Buttigieg has said he doesn’t want to fund the education of students from higher-income families. But also going to schools that can deliver a good education at a lower cost and having that backup plan regarding majors and minors are important. Probably you will also have some better health outcomes with more post-secondary education as well.
There are ways to get a free education now, but you have to work for it. I know that if you will serve in the nuclear Navy after graduation, the Navy will pay your way through school. There are other options for students who want to teach, particularly in high-need areas (both topically and the geographic location of the school).
With regard to the green new deal, AOC was at least willing to visit coal country before that fell through. I don’t think we’ll see any push for more coal plants, but we will continue to see more natural gas plants as we need the energy, we do not have enough energy storage, and we avoid new nuclear. In my opinion , it is disingenuous to say that approach will definitely lead to a reduction in carbon over the next century.
Just what you said, Jenny. It probably won’t double payroll taxes but Trump will spend tens of millions saying it will. Conservatives and fence-sitters won’t believe what you and Cory pointed out. In politics, perception is reality and the overwhelming perception among Republicans is that anything the govt. runs is bad. Ten percent of that group need to swing to our candidate. We won’t flip ’em with logic and the truth. We flip ’em with our own game. (see my next post)
Does making the poor pay more and lowering the middle-class deductibles and copayments without raising taxes on the rich sound distant from what we liberals believe? Maybe not. “Sometimes innovation wears a cloaking device.” says Harry Potter. e.g. Republicans lived and breathed “No new taxes!” for so long it hindered their production. A wise, if not cunning, answer was to call new taxes fees. Revenues went up without the embarrassment of Repubs raising them.
~ It’s possible, with some deep thinking, to find a way for the poor to pay more (thus having a bigger stake in the healthcare game) but give those poor a break somewhere else. Repubs will enjoy their “zero sum game” superiority and Dems will help out those in the most need.
~ Obamacare desperately needs tweaking. That idea is a non-starter with Republicans. If those tweaks aren’t called improvements but are called capitulations to conservative voters, then biting the bullet and lowering copayments and deductibles becomes win-win. In short, to win the votes of those wanting to Jump From Trump we need to tell ’em what they want to hear, without deceit but with a win-win attitude.
I’m with The Squad.
Let’s offer Medicare as a public option and let’s provide 14 years of free education.
Lastly, we need to impeach the treasonous criminal in the WH. Speaker Pelosi, start an inquiry NOW!
BTW, their press conference was ACES!
There is little known secret that this country doesn’t want you know about,
There are currently in excess of 500,000 European illegal immigrants in this country. Where’s the outrage? Where are the pictures of white children in concentration camps?
As a person of color I can say America is my ancestral home. I find Trump’s racist trope particularly offensive and racist.
Even in my life long fight against racism and discrimination, I knew it was stupid to demand that white people go back where they came from, simply put, there are just too damn many of you.
About a month ago Newsweek had an article wherein Trump called President Carter regarding China’s economic success. Trump got an opening to communicate with President Carter after he praised Trump’s efforts in working with Japan on trade issues.
Trump asked Carter how and why China was outpacing the United States in trade and why China had better stuff then us, including high speed rail.
Carter asked Trump when was the last time China was at war in the world in spite of having a strong army and air force.
The answer is simple, China doesn’t invest gross amounts of money on a military industrial complex and thus has the money to invest in education, medical, and other nice things for their citizens.
What does America have? A twisted and often perverted list of priorities.
NPR has an article on the USA’s political history with “Go back where you came from!” It’s interesting, short and no paywall.
http://flip.it/30yEAk
Debbo … Nice tack to the center. Don’t know if The Squad is for a public option but it’s worthy. It was one day away from reality until Joe Lieberman threw a fit and we had to get his vote. We can start with fifty year olds being able to buy into Medicare. That’s the age business likes to spit out workers because they’re making too much. If it’s popular the age can gradually come down. Insurance companies won’t feel the need to donate billions to stop it and conservatives won’t think someone’s getting free stuff. My Medicare policy takes $265 dollars a month from my pension but a supplemental for $185 a month is necessary to feel safe. That ain’t free stuff and if an insurance guy offers me a better deal, I’ll take it. Democrats aren’t socialists. Free market me, baby.
Very low cost junior college would be a big help and again poor people wouldn’t think they’re subsidizing rich people’s kids with free college.
The center is wide open. We’re fools not to get our feet wet in that pool.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/16/20696937/mitch-mcconnell-trump-racist-tweets
Guess which Kentucky wingnut sinator that looks suspiciously like a turtle, didn’t condemn Drumpf’s racist tweets, but gave Dems more than their share of blame for this mess.
In the “them” versus “us” division, how much longer will it be before the American electorate realizes that wealth inequality, disenfranchisement, poverty, drug addiction, have become “us” issues? I in no way want to trivialize how much harder these issues have affected our communities/brothers/sisters of color, but as the Rust Belt’s turn to red in 2016 showed, these are no longer issues white voters are immune from (or frustrated by).
As Jim Hightower said, it’s not Left v. right, it’s top v. Bottom.
Porter, I wouldn’t settle for Medicare beginning at age 50 because the number of young people struggling to get health care is immense. Making it an option preserves private insurance and rebuts the majority of GOP arguments. Of course GOP will be strongly opposed because they don’t want their lies proven to be lies.
14 years of free public education for all who are eligible. (Income) That would frost Betsy Devoid of All Humanity because her private pets would be excluded. On the other hand, private colleges might get more students if they finished at them. The for profit mills would be screwed, which would be great, while community colleges/tech schools could flourish.
Free preschool as part of elementary education. Studies show repeatedly that’s of immense benefit to children, especially those of low income or dysfunctional families.
BTW, did you see this WWII video? It’s about how Hitler did what he did in Germany. If Rancid Racist Ranter ever studied anything, anything at all, it was this. It’s worth the 22 minutes because Rancid Racist Ranter is following this playbook to a T. The way he treated The Squad is a Case In Point.
https://youtu.be/vGAqYNFQdZ4
Ol’ Dirty Johnson lives up to his name by voting with the rest of the sorry arsed republicans who protect trump from his racist rants. The House of Representatives, the People’s house, just voted to rebuke trump for his racism…Not Johnson, nope, he continues to be the horse’s arse we hoped he wouldn’t be. Shame on him for being so dirty.
7th tour of duty was one tour too much for this soldier’s soldier.
“The Department of Defense has announced the death of a soldier who was supporting Operation Freedom’s Sentinel.
Sgt. Maj. James G. Sartor, 40, of Teague, Texas, died July 13, 2019, in Faryab Province, Afghanistan, as a result of injuries sustained from enemy small arms fire during combat operations. This incident is under investigation.
Sartor was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 10th Special Forces Group (Airborne), Fort Carson, Colorado.”
We’ve been at it since 2001 in Afghanistan, and were still violently dying there. We’ve lost all religions and all colors to the bombs and gunfire there. And yet here, we have a president who has no regard for anything remotely of what it means to be an American, because he has thrown his lot in with Putin and the rest of the despots of the world. North Korean Kim’s picture, now hangs in the West Wing of the White House, how about that.
Allowing 50 year olds to buy into Medicare would not mean Obamacare is gone, or the subsidies for low income people. Adding a means testing to the subsidies would get every participant more invested in their own healthcare. Addressing the too high co-payments is needed, too. We have to be willing to make the first move to help Republicans pay less. As far as Trump goes, if all we do is destroy a martyr, it just brings on another martyr. It’s time to end the war and we need to make the first gesture towards peace. It’ll benefit us, if need be.
How can anyone say that we can’t pay for any social programs when over 50% of the annual budget goes to the military. That is what they are willing to tell us about.
We have relatives in “socialist” countries and have met others from other “socialist” countries and have yet to hear one of them complain very loudly about their healthcare.
Always money for tax cuts and the military but nothing for the citizens!
Why isn’t the “no money” group screaming bloody murder about the $750 per day being spent by the private prison company’s for every illegal being detained inside nothing more than a hurricane fence cage. A five star hotel would have been cheaper. Oh that’s right….Trump likes it.
When 1/3 of the healthcare dollar goes to big insurance whose for profit business model is to insure you that you DON’T get healthcare its time we tried something else.
Clyde,
See my comment at 16:49 and how China is light years ahead of the U.S. with both a strong economy and military.
China thinks we are fools and Trump proves that it is true everyday.
Spin this. Trump is not racist. the “racist” power word has been vociferously abused. https://twitter.com/i/status/1151322016487751682
There is no question about whether Trump is a racist, he is a racist.
His supporters don’t get to change the definition of the word, racism.
Only in the fevered swamps of wingnut la la land is Drumpf not a racist. John Dale is a tool.
Clyde, in other countries, healthcare is not traded on their stock markets. When you have healthcare that is profit driven, you can see how their must be a profit at each quarter.
The United States has growth of about 2% now while China currently, is at 6.5% GDP, slower than what it was, but still substantial.
What we always fail to note is that the reason we have so much poverty is because of oil subsidies and wealth not paying their tax or greed. White working class America tolerates all of this and blames their woes on people of color instead of where the fault actually is, racism. When organized labor fell by the wayside, the only ones cheering it on were the gilded class, the 1%. Now even IKEA is leaving the United States to go back to Europe where it is cheaper to produce goods and then export them to the United States. That’s what they say, but the cost of healthcare here and the political climate, may surely have fit into the decision to move.
Did you ever notice that people who assert that Trump is not a racist focus on Trump rather than the language he uses? In other words, where are the arguments that the phrase or admonition “Why don’t you just go back where you came from?” is not a racist trope?
Perhaps arguments are avoided by Trump apologists because the well known U.S. historical record immediately undermines any contrary claim about the racist intent behind the use of such language.
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/15/741827580/go-back-where-you-came-from-the-long-rhetorical-roots-of-trump-s-racist-tweets
Here is the explanation we need from Trump apologists:
If Trump is not a racist then why does he use language that historically has been recognized as racist language? This detail wasn’t addressed in Dale’s video nor by Dale – perhaps because avoidance and distraction seem better tactics to defend the indefensible.
We don’t need this latest example of Trump’s racism to make the case that he’s a racist.
We knew this before he was elected from multiple incidence. It was pretty clear from lots of actions in his past that Trump harbors immense racial animus. Much of it stems from and was shown by housing discrimination that his father and he engaged in. The Trump real estate business came under scrutiny for racial discrimination during the Reagan years, not a time of vigorous civil rights enforcement.
He’s made numerous statements and engaged in white nationalist efforts over decades. Some of this involved efforts to frame several young blacks for a murder they did not commit. Although he hasn’t identified himself as a white nationalist, his statements and actions have aligned with the Nazis and other white nationalist groups. It makes little difference if you are a card-carrying member of the Nazis, if your statements are down-the-line aligned with them.
I’m surprised people don’t know this history, or have conveniently forgotten it, or, like the good Germans with Hitler, are so caught up in the cult of the leader that they refuse to see. Trump has shown us and told us what he is repeatedly over decades. Time to believe him. He is a racist.
Even though it’s obvious that trump has been a racist since before he was born (see anything on the internet regarding fred trump), to my little brain that’s (while evil and inexcusable) just more dang “trump-ness.” What’s absolutely, positively unforgiveable is any politician, especially the “leader of the free world (what a joke that’s become since January 2017),” telling other Americans that if they don’t agree with the President or with some party’s position, they should then leave the country. This country was literally founded on dissent, it was “settled” before and after 1776 by people trying to escape oppression and intolerance, and it is (still, barely) a great country BECAUSE of dissenting opinions, not DESPITE dissenting opinions. Trump’s too stupid to realize that. His supporters are too stupid to realize that. Trump’s too damn dumb to google where the 4 women were born. My work boot is smarter than Trump.
Oh, and at the risk of being seen to be “anti-PC” by telling folks to shut up, people really need to zip their pie-holes about their opposition to Medicare-for-all. Any increase in taxes to pay for this will be way more than offset by the ability to know, absolutely, once and for all, what one’s medical costs will be. Yes, ownership of a car or house is a crapshoot, as you never know what will break and cost you money, but those expenses typically don’t have the power to bankrupt people like medical expenses can. The only thing you’re doing, by fighting against Universal Healthcare or Medicare for All or whatever you wish to call it, is serving the Big Insurance Companies. You’re not doing anything to solve the healthcare expense problem. The economy would be boosted “bigly” if every citizen knew they didn’t have to fear buying something because they might need the money to pay several grand for a simple surgery, or to pay over a grand to have a camera go “where no camera has gone before” or similar tests. My dad paid nearly 6 grand a month for the nursing home, but he paid zip for heart surgery and 2 leg amputations, after Medicare and Medigap. This is how it should be for all Americans. Anything less is just flat-out ridiculous.
Oh, and Thune and Rounds–if you’re listening? I would bet my ’88 F150 that you were raised to return the extra dollar some store clerk gave you in change. That’s black and white. It’s also black and white that, if you are a leader (which these folks are supposed to be) you speak up against trump’s statements that anyone who disagrees with him should leave the country. You defend the dissenters’ right to dissent even if you tape their photos to your dartboard. Do your job, Mikey and Johnny, and rebuke the Toddler-in-Chief.
I agree with Jerry that we have enough $ in the USA. The issue is the greedy 1+% who are hoarding it.
I’m sure tax laws can be written that tax them, not the consumers, on income they make in the USA, regardless of where they stash it.
I’m sure there are agreements that can be made with the Caymans, Panama and similar places that will benefit them and US while keeping the top few from cheating the rest of the world.
I’ll quite certain there is a way to force them to pay their fair share if they want to do business in the USA while also protecting the US consumer and giving her a fair chance.
I’ll bet Sen. Warren has a plan for all that!
I gotta admit, I couldn’t get past the “Patriots” part of this story….laughing hysterically.
I’m not too fond of tossing around the word “patriot,” but I assume you think twitterpate45 is one. I think he’s made it clear he isn’t.
Steve, I think we’ve all noticed you often struggle with hysteria. That’s okay. We’ll help you.
Laughing “hysterically” at you Mr Racist .
Steve – OK, I’ll bite: how do YOU define “patriot?”
I gotta, I couldn’t get past Trump’s follow up Tweet claiming “I’m not a racist” part of this story….laughing hysterically.
“I gotta admit” – sorry, I’m not doing a very good job at proof reading today
Ya gotta wonder about folks who advocate a political philosophy – here racism – that they are so embarrassed about that they have to try to find some way to convince people they don’t actually believe in that philosophy.
Don’t believe your own lyin” eyes or ears folks!
Steve, don’t let your attention deficit disorder get the best of you. If you read AOCs story then maybe you would understand. She’s patriotic to me, not very many women, and especially women of color, get elected to the House of Representatives. Why don’t you try running, I doubt you would get very far.
It’s people like Steve that make that make people of color run from the Racist Party.
Mueller was to speak July 17. That is when Trump told congresswomen of color to leave. What distraction will Mitch suggest Trump announce the next Wednesday? I can’t wait for impeachment by the House.
Porter, btw, could you briefly summarize 1-6?
The only two election issues are:
1. Act now on Climate
Change.
2. Cure Economic Inequality on every front (hint-it covers nearly every other substantial problem facing the country).
Historically the nation grew up on two foundations, both economic. Slave labor and stolen resources.
Like global warming it has come time to pay the piper. Congress can no longer be a political instrument of the few against the many. Manipulation of laws to suit corrupt capitalism must end. Presidents can never again have so much power that its unchecked abuse can occur in as little as two years.
The “fronts” include: a.) effective, affordable, accessible and cutting edge Health Care for all; b.) the Racist Immigration purge, border wars and employers capitalizing on low cost non-citizen labor; c.) Reparations and return of Stolen Land and Natural Resources; d.) Inequitable Tax laws, privatization, havens, trusts and subsidies favoring the 1%; e.) public and universal Education which to guarantees equal opportunity and a competent electorate; f.) nepotism and ethics barriers to cronyism and vetting practices assuring competency of government leaders; g.) media laws preventing propaganda; h.) anti-trust laws preventing monopolization of key industries assuring truth, accuracy and freedom of the press; h.) Justice systems that prevent politicization of courts, prosecutors, investigation and enforcement assuring equal access to justice regardless of income; i) Political regulation assuring the unfettered right to vote free from manipulation, restriction, gerrymander, intimidation, trickery, propaganda and electoral college misrepresentation; j.) affordable housing; k.) inspector general systems with enforceable power; l.) political party power reform laws and decorum that remove and prevent abuse and “scorched earth politics” and “revolving door” abolishment of laws duly enacted by the next party in power; n.) militia and 2nd amendment laws restricting guns and protecting all persons from proliferation of guns and violent culture; o.) wealth exclusion from Justice systems?; p.) public prison systems based on rehabilitation; q.) alternatives to two party systems which have institutionalized conflict; r.) Energy policy recognizing protection and sustaining of the Environment; s.)
https://the-immoral-minority.com/marco-rubio-caught-sharing-doctored-video-of-ilhan-omar-designed-to-make-her-appear-racist/
Is there nothing wingnuts won’t do when it comes to trying to personally destroy the opposition?
RubiSlippers is trying raise his scumminess level to match his GOP heroes like Rancid Racist, Chinless Wonder McTurtle and the rest of the sewage waste.
https://www.newsweek.com/rashida-tlaib-slams-ivanka-trump-donald-trump-el-paso-1452530
Good advice to clewless Ivanka from super smart and effective Rep Tlaib about super clewless, racist in chief in the kremlin annex. You go , girl.
Moscow Mitch fell and fractured his shoulder. Thoughts and prayers, anyone. Personally, I’d send a happy relapse card because I am that way.
Tlaib is outstanding!