Donald Trump cannot make a coherent speech. Consider yesterday’s ejaculations at the National Rifle Association convention in Dallas:
Your Second Amendment rights are under siege, but they will never, ever be under siege as long as I’m your president [Donald Trump, speech to NRA convention, as reported by Critiano Lima, “Trump Vows to Defend Gun Owners’ Rights ‘Under Siege’,” CNN, 2018.05.04].
Your rights are under siege, but they’re not.
These are real patriots, they really are, and they don’t get the kind of adulation. But really, they do and we know that [Trump to NRA, as reported by Chris Cillizza, “The 40 Most Breathtaking Lines from Trump’s NRA Speech,” CNN: The Point, 2018.05.05].
You don’t get adulation, but you do get adulation.
Such self-contradictory and thus meaningless statements convey the essence of how Donald Trump spends his days. He does not deliberate over, prepare, or refine his words. He does choose words to create unified, instructive explanations. He quite literally says whatever feels like an impressive phrase, then follows his next verbal impulse, and the next, and the next, with no thought about whether his next utterance supports or refutes his last. Meaning doesn’t matter; only attention does.
Donald Trump adds nothing substantive to public discourse. Donald Trump is babbling.
Sounds like it was written by Sarah Palin.
Perhaps it’s secret republican code.
Cory wrote:
Your rights are under siege, but they’re not.
Yes they are Cory.
https://www.ammoland.com/2018/01/new-jersey-democrats-bill-ban-your-current-rifles-assault-weapons/#axzz5EdozpzAX
Buckobear,
Did you mean Hillary?
Remember when she said businesses don’t create jobs?
“But Hillary”, “but Hillary’s emails”, more irrelevant babbling by a Trumptard.
I watched Trump’s NRA ramblings at the NRA convention, note that I did not say speech, yesterday. Trump sounds more disconnected from reality every time he opens his mouth.
Troll today, Troll tomorrow. The trolling never stops.
Remember when stoopid wingnuts claimed taxcuts would spur demand and growth? Remember when stoopid wingnuts said workers would receive 4000 dollar raises?
Jason, you lie.
As for HRC’s comment, Jason left out the context which helps explain her comments.
The Troll chose to cherry pick what she said, as per usual.
mike from iowa
Trumptards are simply doing their assigned work from the Internet Research Agency.
these babbling alt-rightish trolls said SPLC is a terrorist or hate org. I objected in that thread.
In fact, as most reasonable educated people can assure themselves: “The far right (alt-right/white supremacy) and groups like ISIS use similar tactics, producing high-quality videos and employing memes and jokes to make their message more appealing.”
“The overall goal is to destabilize people so you can then fill them with your own views,” says Keegan Hankes, a senior research analyst with the Southern Poverty Law Center.
Florida has the second-largest concentration of hate groups in the country, according to the SPLC…. One former Florida state cop explained it as a matter of priorities. “Neo-Nazis have been around so long,” he said. But there are dwindling resources for intelligence gathering, he added. “When local intelligence officials want to know who the Nazis are, they go to the Southern Poverty Law Center website.”
“If you make racism or anti-Semitism funny, you can subvert the cultural taboo. Make people laugh at the Holocaust – you’ve opened a space in which history and fact become worthless, period.” https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/all-american-nazis-fascist-youth-united-states-w519651
Daily Stormer…site’s slogan, “Gas the Kikes! Race War Now! 14/88 Boots on the Ground,” paid homage to two central precepts of neo-Nazi ideology – the number 88, or so-called double H, representing the words “Heil Hitler,” and a slogan known as the Fourteen Words: “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.”
I’m amazed he (Jason) didn’t say Benghazi.
Leslie – –
We even have three right here in SD:
Creativity Movement
Brookings, South Dakota
NEO-NAZI
HEADQUARTERS
Traditionalist American Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
Custer, South Dakota
Keep South Dakota Safe PAC
Aberdeen, South Dakota
ANTI-MUSLIM
See ’em all here: https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIw7zeurHv2gIVmbjACh1IDQm0EAAYASABEgLToPD_BwE
There used to be (maybe still is ) a place in Rapid dealing in “memorabilia.”
What leslie points out was also true in pre-World War II America. Local cops and the FBI were not effective in infiltrating and countering Nazi support groups in the 1920s and 30s. There was, however, a very effective network of folks, organized by Jews and others, who cultivated intelligence on these pro-Nazi organizations. The FBI would later use the work of those independent people to prevent sabotage of the US defense industry.
As the war in Europe began before America’s entry into the war, Germany utilized these organizations for intelligence gathering and propaganda purposes. Two of the main things Germany wanted was a means to cripple the film industry (newsreels were a major means of distributing news in those years) and knowledge of was the many defense installations in Southern California in order to neutralize them.
In looking at some of the history of Germany’s effort, I’m drawing some parallels between Germany’s efforts pre-WW2 and Russia’s efforts today. Germany used hate and ethnic divisions to weaken the country and delay its entry into WWII. Russia seems to be following the Nazi formula today, and Trump seems to be a major supporter of Russia’s effort.
Don’t get distracted, people. The point here is simple: in one speech, Trump at least twice said, essentially, X is true and X is false.
Donald Trump’s words mean nothing.
trump is now up to 9 public lies a day, twice as much as when the counting started in his first 100 days. China, the EU, North and South Korea and everyone else, has his number, America cannot be trusted. We cannot make deals with other countries because we cannot commit to them. The dry drunk in the white house just keeps at it. Good news though is that Ghouliani is now his lawyer which makes for a fun time of babbling.
John McCain is dying and does not want trump at his funeral. He also deeply regrets his choice of Sarah Palin. Most important people would like to have the current president to send them off, but trump is not normal and he is not someone you would want really anyplace that normal people would go. The only place for him would be back to Mother Russia, where he can run free and no one gives a care if he lies or not.
I think there was a moment when Second Amendment (absolute) rights were under attack:
“In the days since the horrific school shooting in Parkland, Florida, the president has suggested arming teachers, toughening background checks, opening more mental hospitals and increasing the age limit to buy some weapons to 21. Last week, he directed his administration to regulate bump stocks, the gun accessory used to simulate automatic fire in the 2017 Las Vegas attack.
‘Don’t worry about the NRA. They’re on our side,” Trump told a bipartisan gathering of governors on Monday during a White House meeting. “If they’re not with you, we have to fight them every once in a while. That’s OK. They’re doing what they think is right.’”
Saying exactly and only what the immediate crowd in front of this president wants to hear makes him the “professional liar” he is being accused of being by the Parkland survivors.
o
You need to get over your whole “professional liar” routine. You can’t blame Trump or Obama for the Parkland shooting. It had nothing to do with who the president is but rather a failure of the parents, teachers, local school administrators, local government and the FBI. Kids died because everyone involved was not willing to do anything about someone they all knew was dangerous. To blame anyone other than the people responsible is irresponsible on your part. Grow up and do something to help as opposed to sitting on your fat ass blaming those not even involved.
When the kids at Parkland launched a national campaign to do something about gun violence and school safety adults insulted them, mocked them, and threatened them with physical violence.
Beatle Bailey tells us, “Grow up and do something to help as opposed to sitting on your fat ass blaming those not even involved”.
Pretty damn mouthy Beatle Bailey, so tell us precisely what you are doing to help. Have you gotten off your fat ass to do something, or do you specialize in sitting in your rocking making demands of others?
OldSarg, your last comment makes clear your childish inability to conduct a civil and intelligent argument. You insult O needlessly and baselessly, in a way that evades O’s main point and makes no relevant counterpoint.
O was not saying that Trump was to blame for the Parkland shooting. O pointed out that, right after the Parkland shooting, he called for a restriction of Second, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights with his suggestion that we seize people’s guns without due process. O’s example, lined up against the words he said Friday to the NRA, support both O’s point that Trump is a professional liar and my point that the words out of his mouth have no coherent thought or meaning other than self-promotion and ingratiation with the audience of the moment.
OldSarg, unable to refute those facts and that logic, turns to an irrelevant point that he uses as a springboard for baseless personal insults.
Grow up—I know O. He is a grown up.
fat ass—OldSarg has never met O in person and thus has no basis on which to comment on O’s gluteal rotundity. I have seen O in person many times, and while I will do O the respect of not commenting on his physique, I will note what should be obvious: the physical characteristics of a person’s posterior have no bearing on the merits of that person’s political statements.
do something to help—As Roger suggests, OldSarg has no more knowledge of O’s professional and community activities than we have of OldSarg’s. Again, OldSarg isn’t offering a logical argument; he’s just making stuff up and being a jerk.