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Fringe CP Candidate Abandons First Amendment, Calls for Banning Islam

Sure, I’ll repost this, if it helps rally yahoo Republicans to whatever fringe campaign “Constitution” party favor Terry LaFleur wages next, drains the GOP vote tally, and helps Democrats and others who actually support the First Amendment win the next election:

Terry LaFleur, Facebook post, 2019.05.23.
Terry LaFleur, Facebook post, 2019.05.23.

South Dakota Libertarian Party membership director Greg Baldwin directs his members to remember that the Constitution respects the freedom of religion… and that LaFleur’s flavor of CP-ism apparently does not:

Greg Baldwin, comment to Terry LaFleur, 2019.05.24.
Greg Baldwin, comment to Terry LaFleur, 2019.05.24.
Greg Baldwin, comment to Terry LaFleur, 2019.05.25.
Greg Baldwin, comment to Terry LaFleur, 2019.05.25.

There, Islam and abortion—that should sufficiently occupy everyone’e Saturday conversation.

81 Comments

  1. Certain Inflatable Recreational Devices

    Few elements of life are as ironic as the name “Constitution” Party.

  2. Indeed. Every political party necessarily supports the Constitution. Calling oneself the “Constitution” party is thus a useless distinction, not really informing us of the party’s real focus, which appears to be providing a home for impractical cranks and extremists who can’t fit in with the main conservative party. LaFleur’s bigotry would certainly fit with the party of Trump and Tapio, but the GOP establishment has to exert itself (not very hard) to paint the CP (which doesn’t exist as a recognized party in SD due to its incompetence) as a fringe organization that is not worth abandoning the comfy GOP for.

  3. I’ve heard secondhand that the Constitution Party’s national committee decided in advance several weeks ago not to affiliate with any South Dakota party if Terry LaFleur is a member of the state central committee.

    But when it comes to smearing a party founded by traditional Bible Protestants, it seems like Republican Pat Powers, Libertarian Bob Newland, and Democrat Cory Heidelberger are all reading from the same playbook.

  4. Debbo

    “traditional Bible Protestants” always makes me laugh.

  5. Deb Geelsdottir writes:

    “traditional Bible Protestants” always makes me laugh.

    Traditional Protestants affirm the principles of justification by faith alone, the priesthood of all believers, and the primacy of the Bible.

    Learn more here:
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/protestant

  6. John writes:

    Muslims lived in America before Protestantism existed.

    (1) People were living by Protestant principles for more than 1500 years before it was called Protestantism.

    (2) The almost exclusively Protestant Founding Fathers of the United States supported religious liberty, including for Muslims, and so do the Protestant founders of the Constitution Party.

  7. cibvet

    Seems as if the republican party, the constitution party , the the federalist society and etc, all want same thing. A lily white only autocratic country (north Korea pattern ) that rules the entire planet. Slowly they are getting there, but it will require working class conscripts to fight their wars. trump is trying to start one with Iran, but his heel spurs will keep acting up until the military assures him that he will not be hurt.

  8. jerry

    cibvet, a war with Iran would be a disaster for the US Navy for starters. Capital ships would be destroyed without a doubt, something not seen since World War II.

    “Iran had 50 or so armed speedboats training on swarming maneuvers in the Persian Gulf, and despite their small size and low tech, they could seriously damage the US Navy.
    The ships aren’t that great, but excel in the exact areas that the US Navy isn’t well suited to handle.
    Iran has the first mover advantage against the US, meaning a sneak attack could quickly sink massive US ships, even if they lose their whole speedboat fleet in the process — as is likely.” https://www.businessinsider.es/iran-is-training-tiny-boats-in-persian-gulf-that-could-hurt-the-us-navy-2018-8?r=US&IR=T

    As you well know, war is a racket so there would be many riches to be gained by all of the destruction with a forever quagmire like we are now used to…only worse.

  9. cibvet

    jerry, total agreement, but how much common sense have you seen in the trump administration.
    As with trump, the higher ranks of the military see narcissism as a trait to be admired. The lives of lesser ranks are of no concern unless their bodies provide great tv coverage.

  10. jerry

    True that regarding the higher ranks. They only want their pensions and perks. Give me a sound grunt captain any day of the week. Keep those desk jockey majors and above busy doing nothing. There have only been a few good generals that cared about the troops, the rest, not so much. This bunch that we have now are all cadre that has come from the endless wars republican wars of Bush senior to his kid, with no end in sight that promote failure rather than candor. War is a racket, that drains our treasury while providing nothing in return https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.html, by Marine General Smedley Butler, was one of those generals.

  11. Kurt, I have seen no evidence from the South Dakota splinter of the CP of any strong, intellectually and theologically consistent, or useful expression of Protestant or Christian values. I have seen nothing but fringiness. My criticism of the SDCP has everything to do with the candidates and results I see in South Dakota and nothing to do with the national party’s origins, of which I profess no knowledge.

  12. And if “traditional Bible Protestantism” is central to the CP identity, why do they not brand themselves as something related to those terms?

  13. Cory writes:

    Kurt, I have seen no evidence from the South Dakota splinter of the CP of any strong, intellectually and theologically consistent, or useful expression of Protestant or Christian values.

    Does your analysis encompass all of my comments on this blog when I was a member of the party from 2016 to early 2018?

    And if “traditional Bible Protestantism” is central to the CP identity, why do they not brand themselves as something related to those terms?

    The framers of the Constitution were almost exclusively Protestant.

  14. Kurt, would you say you are representative of the SDCP?

    The fact that the framers were Protestant does not mean that they wrote a Protestant document, any more than the fact that I’m an atheist makes every manifesto I produce an atheist document. Similarly, I can criticize weaknesses in the Constitution without passing any judgment on or even possessing any knowledge of the religious affiliation of the framers, just as readers can critique my every blog post without indicting or even addressing my atheism (though it often works the other way, with Al Novstrup and other yahoos politicizing my atheism without addressing the merits of the policies I propose).

  15. Cory asks:

    Kurt, would you say you are representative of the SDCP?

    It’s technically the CPSD, and I’d say I was when I was a member.

  16. Kurt Evens does know his ass from a hole in the ground. He’s nothing more then a Democrat.

    I am a Hardcore Christian Conservative and no one, especially Evens gets to lable me.

    Evens is spreading false information just like this Dakota rag that is printing it.

    We have volumes of evidence substantiating the claims I brought into the light of day in my first Autobiography. You should see the next one. Every crime these traitors committed is listed in living color.

  17. I offered Cory a chance to review our evidence, but he only prints fake news.

  18. Why do conservatives claim to have volumes of evidence but never show us those volumes?

  19. The CPSD is not a technical name, it’s OUR legal name. Hubbel is so misinformed that she called her second convention in the name of a political party that does not exist anywhere in SD.

    Joel Bergan certified the Hubbel/Volaski ticket on August 14, 2018. Gordon Howie was the Chairman of the counterfeit faction known as the Hubbel faction, not Bergan. I laugh at these fools. Ask yourself why have I not been sued by anyone involved in this coup D’etat? Answer is, they don’t want a jury to see the volumes of evidence we have proving what the Republican Mafia did in 2018. Noem would be removed from office if the truth gets out. She will never get elected President if I have anything to say about it. I will hand over all the evidence we have to her opposition for certain.

  20. I offered Cory a chance to review the evidence, but he only prints fake news. Then posts asinine comments like, “Why do Conservatives say they have volumes of evidence, but never show it.”

    Cory, read my next Autobiography, “Release The Kraken.” There are over 36 documents presented in the second Work. Do your own research. I have been writing my second Work for over six months. Go to Lulu.com. I’m launching it today. You can get a copy of “Coup D’etat In South Dakota” on Amazon.com, Kindle book, Audible and iTunes.

  21. Dicta

    I’m glad Kurt knows his ass from a hole in the ground? Terry’s misstatement reminds me of a joke from one of my math classes:

    A topologist is a person who doesn’t know the difference between his ass and a hole in the ground but does know the difference between his ass and two holes in the ground.

  22. [Hey, Terry! Next time you submit a comment, please check the spelling in the Name field. Your browser appears to have stored a typo in its autocomplete feature. Since my system recognizes your correctly spelled name, it sends the misspelled name to comment moderation, thus preventing you from engaging readers more immediately. You can either fix the spelling in the next comment you enter, or you can dig into your browser settings and delete that autocomplete item.]

  23. It’s your stupid matrix that’s the problem. I tried to edit it but there’s no edit function. And I have no idea where your term Dicta came from. It wasn’t on any of my posts. And no Kurt does not know his ass from a hole in the ground. Couldn’t edit that typo either.

    Evens is so predicable. What an asshat!

  24. grudznick

    grudznick does have to point out that Mr. Evans, a fellow who I feel a bit of kinship with outside of the tinfoil hat clan bent, is a much better speller and grammarian than a doctor. Mr. Evans, he of a particular precise and more accurate nature, is also much more polite than certain “doctors” who we read on the blogs.

    PS: I am not referring to Dr. McT, the Scientist, who is an actual doctor.

  25. o

    Kurt Evans: “The framers of the Constitution were almost exclusively Protestant.”

    And as Jon Stewart reminds us, they also owned slaves and [pooped] in buckets.

  26. mike from iowa

    Lawdy, not another member of coup clutz clan that claims to have irrefutable evidence of something but never bother to show it.

  27. bearcreekbat

    o, that reminds me of the deathly sick old man who sought absolution of the sin of engaging in sex with a prostitute when he was a young fellow stationed overseas in the army. The priest said, “I’m sorry sir, but that is a mortal sin that can never be forgiven!” The fellow exclaimed, “Just having sex with a prostitute when I was too young to even know any better?” The priest, “Oh wait, I though you said protestant. Never mind, you can be forgiven.”

  28. [Hey, I’m just trying to help. Did you correct the spelling yourself for this comment, or did it automatically appear?]

  29. Laugh it up. I illustrate all our evidence in printed Books for the whole world to read, not in some fake news mag rag.

    You can lead a dumbass to water, but you can’t make them read it! Lmao

  30. I didn’t do anything, you did. You can choose sides, but you can’t choose the truth.

  31. Just think Cory, you could scoop the story of the Century, but you are just another lazy journalist. What a shame.

  32. You have your theories, I have legal documents and the truth. Dream on dreamer. If you say it enough, you might even start believing your own fake news stories. Lmao

  33. By the way Cory, we are publishing another fact buster Autobiography. You’re going to love this. Most of the documents you doubt exist are fully illustrated in it. We even have a secretly recorded audio tape of coconspirators spilling the beans on Lederman, Krebs and Noem. You are just going to love it. LMAO

  34. Can’t wait. Publish away. But does “fact buster” mean you go around destroying facts and replacing them with bunk?

    By the way, I printed that you want to shut down mosques and ban Islam. Is that fake news?

  35. grudznick

    “Doctor” LaFleur, I think Mr. H got your Halal goat good.

  36. Only your demented mind would believe that. You bore me. Ho hum!

  37. No it’s about telling the truth which can’t even include in a comprehensive sentence. I don’t just say it, I back it up with self authenticating legal documents. You know, The Truth!

  38. jerry

    bcb, that was beautiful! Funny as hell! A fringe benefit once again.

  39. Terry LaFleur writes:

    Kurt Evens … He’s nothing more then a Democrat.

    I am a Hardcore Christian Conservative and no one, especially Evens gets to lable me.

    Evens is spreading false information …

    We obviously disagree, Terry.

  40. We all have the right to disagree. You, Terry, have vague, baseless assertions that you consistently fail to support with evidence.

  41. Anne

    I was wondering what that “doctor” stood for and found this prime example of an illiterate sentence: “There’s no problem to BIG, that we can’t fix if we all Work Together! ”
    And that led to the law school from which it was claimed and a google question about what is the worst law school in the nation.
    https://lawschooli.com/should-i-attend-cooley-law-school/
    …and the loser is: Thomas M. Cooley Law School
    Why pick on Cooley? There are a lot of terrible law schools out there, certainly. Cooley Law, however, has secured a deserved reputation as the worst of the worst, churning out scores of the most uncompetitive graduates into an extremely competitive profession that has nowhere near the ability to absorb them all. Cost of education is extremely high relative to expected salaries. Many graduates struggle to even pass the bar. Cooley has even been sued for inflating salary data.

  42. Like I said to Cory, you have your opinion, I have the truth. TMC has always been ranked in the top three Law Schools in the nation.

    Attorneys are traitors to our nation. I learn this fact the hard way. They abolished the original 13th Amendment, and Attornies are loyal the the Queen of England. I may be law trained, but I am ashamed of ever being affiliated with the American Bar Association.

    Why don’t you obtain a copy of my first Autobiography and read for yourself what truly happened in 2018. You think you have it all figured out, so you have nothing to lose by reading the truth. Or do you?

    My second Work is a little shorter then the first, but contains numerous legal documents substantiating ever crime committed by the Republican Mafia here in SD.

    I know your ego is bigger then both of us, so I will naturally not expect you to want to broaden your knowledge about the Coup, but perhaps you may be curious enough to want to know. I can lead you to the truth, but I can’t make you read it. The Coup D’etat In South Dakota is also available in audiobook. You can find it in eBook, Paperback and Hardcover edition on Lulu.com.

    I also believe you can find it on iTunes and Amazon.com. We shall be Releasing The Kraken soon.

    And thank you for proving my point by insulting someone who disagrees with your point of view. I hate it when I’m proven right! Have a great rest of your life.

  43. Anna, recent reports on salaries vs. professions has Attornies ranked below School Teachers and Mass Transit Bus Drivers. Not a strong argument their at all.

    What a took away from law school is the subject matter material. I know what a Conspiracy Crime us. I know when someone is lying to me, and I know what constitutes a criminal enterprise. Politicians, which I have never considered myself a part of, meets this definition under RICO.

    My second Work, Release The Kraken, examines the pattern of unlawful practices of the Duopoly Parties conduct over the past decades. Everything have done satisfies the elements under RICO section 1962(a), (b), (c), and (d).

    It is all illustrated in the Work. Hope you read it too!

  44. Nope! But your children’s children will learn why we should have. You should be careful what you ask for my friend. The Moslim version of the Trojan Horse is real, and we don’t have to worry about in our generation, but future generations will think they are living in HELL. Is that what you want for your grandchildren’s children? Most Christians would say no.

  45. I placed the evidence in my Works for all the world to see. You place your false assumptions in a rag that only libtards want to read.

    Like said before, I can lead you to the truth, but I can’t make you read it!

    Enable this rag to accept photos and I can post my vague evidence right here for your misinformed readers too.

    But you probably would not allow them too see the truth, because that does not fit your agenda. What’s the difference between a catfish and the Dakota Press? One is a bottom dwelling pond scum sucking leech, and the other is a fish.

  46. You must be a Democrat lover. Keep messaging me. After Biden stole the election, there’s not much to laugh about these days!

  47. Dicta

    Oh, great, something I can speak on with direct knowledge! Cooley law is ranked in the top 3 law schools in the nation by, wait for it, Cooley Law. This looks bad enough on its own, but here is where this gets really good: Cooley weights things like “seats in the library” THE EXACT SAME as “job placement after graduation.” You know why? At its peak, Cooley had 3 campuses, which gave them the largest scores in physical plant. Further, only 1/4 of Cooley grads have secured employment that requires a JD a FULL YEAR after graduating. Cooley was also sued for inflating salary data. They have high rates of bar failures relative to other law schools. The undergrad GPA and LSAT scores of Cooley students are typically atrocious. Cap this off with a tuition that exceeds the majority of state operated law school with better job placement, and you have to wonder what the hell is going on at Cooley Law.

    Your school was a bad one, Terry. They probably misled you, and I don’t fault you for that. But you speak in fevered bursts of posts that make me question your critical thinking skills and I’m not going to let you mislead people about something I have direct knowledge of.

  48. I passed the Bar Exam on my latest sitting. I scored 139.+ points on the MBE. However, because we had a 1983 lawsuit filed against the Board of Bar Examiners at the same time, the Chairman breached the anonymity requirement and personally graded my Blue Book. Corruption knows no bounds under our Duopoly Party system.

  49. mike from iowa

    After Biden stole the election,

    Yeah,yeah,yeah. Now if only you had actual, factual proof, which, of course, you don’t have or it would have been presented to the proper authorities and laughed out of court.

    Been there , seen that, Nothing to see here or anywhere else. Biden won legally. drumpf always has been A loser and your goofy protests won’t change any of these facts.

  50. Dicta

    I have no idea how you think your post is responsive to the statements made about Cooley Law School, Terry, but ok.

  51. Cory you wouldn’t recognize the truth if it came up behind you, bit you on the ass and you drag it death. You are such a hypocrite.

  52. I told you I only deal with truth and the facts. I find no reason to respond to your Dicta!

  53. “Dicta” is not mine; “Dicta” is another commenter.

    My technical capabilities do not prohibit you from posting your evidence to your website. Have at it.

  54. grudznick

    “Doctor” LeFleur, you make Ms. Hubbel seem almost competent and rational.

  55. You really should go to law school. Dicta – Black’s Law Dictionary defines dictum (aka Dicta) as “[a] statement of opinion or belief considered authoritative because of the dignity of the person making it.”

    Since you are a mere reporter want to be, it is neither true or authoritative. Just plan pointless opinion.

  56. LaFleur

    Gomernick, or who ever you are. Ms. Hubbel is a criminal. If you bothered to look at the evidence (i.e. legal documents, public access) you would realize how asinine your statement truly is. You can read, right?

  57. Hubbel has a mental disorder called “mendacity.” The definition of mendacity:

    men·dac·i·ty
    /menˈdasədē/
    Learn to pronounce
    noun
    untruthfulness.
    “people publicly castigated for past mendacity”
    Similar:
    lying
    untruthfulness
    dishonesty

  58. Dicta

    I know what the term Dicta means, man. It is why I chose the name. I am beginning to feel like I am conversing with a person suffering from mental illness, so I am going to bow out here. I’d encourage others to not punch down.

  59. I’d give up to if all I had is conjecture and pointless dicta. Have a nice day. 🤔🤣🤗

  60. You see Dicta, I’m not politically correct. I tell it like it is. I never lie to you, so you can take what I say to the bank. Now maybe you like being lied to and promised things that they never plan to fulfill, but I keep my commitments.

    Sorry to disappoint you. But when you have to resort to insults, you have lost the debate. Have a nice life.

  61. jerry

    LaFluer, Can’t wait to see the dozen or so votes you will garner in your quest to out nut the nuts.

  62. Can’t wait to prevent Noem from being elected president. The media will love looking at our evidence. Unlike you.

  63. Jerry, I will run on my platform. Not on special interest, lobbyist, and super pac money. I can’t be bought and paid for, you probably hate that, but whatever. Get over yourself.

  64. jerry

    A dozen, might be a stretch. You could double that by getting Uriah as your mate. Gonna self fund?

  65. jerry

    What a relief, a couple more losers in a state that loves losers because it’s so easy to be bribed and look the other way. Check out the dirty 27 trumpian legislators who proudly supported the coup. Beat one of them to show your chops.

  66. Neither Party is worth the powder to blow them to HELL.

  67. I think you are underestimating the strengths of Christian Conservatives.

  68. jerry

    Christian conservative is just another word for traitor. Every one of them will not only take a bribe, but will launder it to make it clean. Christian conservative is what Judas was. Better go count on your family to make the 12 and forget about everyone else.

  69. I said Christian Conservative, not Communist Democrat. Buy a dictionary.

  70. Have to get back to work fellas. Working on a Power Point demonstration. Presenting it to a group of real American Patriots. Nice sparring with you.

  71. jerry

    Make sure you get the 12 committed to you, just work on that, baby steps.

  72. mike from iowa

    kristian konservative is an oxymoron and a half.

  73. jerry

    Well played mfi. A christian conservative is just a fascist, wrapped in a false flag carrying a hollow book. Their hate shows time and again through their fraudulent stance that have caused this great county much harm. Old doc, sounds like just the grifter they need to enrich himself from their pockets.

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