Deux fois j’ai visité Paris et vu, de mes yeux vu, la Cathédrale de Notre Dame, qui aujourd’hui s’est brûlée.
Depuis 850 ans, c’était magnifique. Ce sera encore magnifique.
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notes from a South Dakota expatriate
Deux fois j’ai visité Paris et vu, de mes yeux vu, la Cathédrale de Notre Dame, qui aujourd’hui s’est brûlée.
Depuis 850 ans, c’était magnifique. Ce sera encore magnifique.
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I know. It’s just appalling. I’ve seen photos and videos, read reports. Such a magnificent edifice.
They’re saying that the view in your last 2 photos was mostly untouched, but the rest was hollowed out. The walls still stand and the French plan to rebuild, but the centuries old artifacts inside . . . books, paintings, sculptures, tapestries, murals, furniture, mosaics . . .
It’s all gone. All that history. It feels sadder than the Taliban deliberately destroying religious statuary and buildings. Those losses made me very angry. This is simply heartbreaking.
Je suis desole.. Please forgive the lack of diacriticals.
“Ce soir, tous les Parisiens et Français pleurent cet emblème de notre Histoire commune.”
– et tout le monde pleurent et moi aussi. Cela faisait partie de mon enfance et de mon histoire familiale.
Oh. tellement désolé, Otter.
Cory writes:
“Heart on fire: Our Lady burns”
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“Twice I visited Paris and saw, with my eyes saw, the Cathedral of Notre Dame, which burned today.”
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“For 850 years, it was beautiful. It will be beautiful again.”
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“[The ship] is tossed but doesn’t sink.”
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According to Roman Catholic teaching, Notre Dame of Paris has the actual branches from the crown of thorns that was placed on Christ’s head to mock Him shortly before He was executed.
As a traditional Bible Protestant who generally regards Catholic teaching as unreliable but interesting, I’m a little surprised that a claim like this could have escaped my attention until now.
Otter, “Cela faisait partie de mon enfance et de mon histoire familiale”? Vous avez habité Paris? Dîtes-nous plus!
Cory, generally I’m sad that so many of these old churches in Europe are turning into pubs. I thought this was interesting analysis. What do you think from the perspective of a secular humanist?
https://www.dennisprager.com/notre-dame-an-omen/
Fake Noize this Morning host said crown of thorns saved from the Notre Dame fire was delivered to Paris From what I am told, she was an acquaintace of Jesus who died over a thousand years before the Cathedral was built.
Imagine the SS she could have collected in those thousand years.
I have pieces of the guillotine on which Haysooce was hanged.
Hickey, where do you dig up your sources? It’s the Muslims fault because their culture is subpar and they may have started the fire? Or maybe not? Sounds just like Frantic Flaccid Fool’s favorite “some people are saying…”
Your source of “interesting analysis” says in another post that “Women have to overcome the power of their emotions and their chronic malcontentedness in order to mature into good women.”
With sources like these, it’s no wonder you say some of the wacky stuff you do. You sure know how to pick ’em. 🙄🙄🙄
CIRD
I don’t think “Haysooce” was hanged by a guillotine.
If I recall, the guillotine is used for head chopping off.
Great link Hickey, that one cracked me up and especially, the end where the grifter lays blame on either a worker or a Muslim, couldn’t come from a whiter source, I must say. I wonder where the author was when word had come out in the past months about money needed to do the needed repairs on the cathedral. The place had suffered neglect for decades because well, you know a tourist attraction shouldn’t be shut down or it will lose needed concession monies, you know that tower and the crypt were money makers.
It does sadden to know that the cathedral was on the verge of collapse long before the fire. In fact, it had been this way once before and was ready to be torn down until that little feller Napoleon had it rebuilt just in time for his coronation in 1804. I doubt the Catholics or folks like Hickey could have given much of a damn about it after that until now when it will need a billion to rebuild. Dig into your pocket there buddy and send some bucks to the place that will give you and your’s much delight in blaming some poor Muslim for doing God’s work.
My bad, my comment above was supposed to say Mary Magdalene delivered the crown of thorns to Paris.
It still doesn’t make any sense, either way.
L’organe a survécu! Hourra!
In the meantime, there is this about the news silence regarding Black churches in the USA being burned down.
https://juanitajean.com/perspectives
Pastor Hickey, I am trying hard not to turn the story of Notre Dame burning into something it isn’t. But the human quest for metaphor and higher meaning is inevitable. Even as a secular humanist, I am content to let the primary metaphor of this fire be death and resurrection at Easter time: we suffer terrible loss due to our mistakes, we grieve, but we recover and rebuild, we create beauty from ashes.
That’s a metaphor than can instruct and inspire any human being.
If Prager wants to turn the burning of Notre Dame into a story that basically says Christianity is an old and rotten edifice unable to save itself… well, that’s his error.
Prager barely speaks of Notre Dame: he just grabs the mic, mentions the current news story to grab everyone’s attention, then falls back into a tired old recitation of Western exceptionalism, anti-multiculturalism, anti-secularism, anti-liberalism, blah blah blah.
I’m willing to step a bit out of my worldview and dig in the ruins of Notre Dame for inspiration based on the tenets of a religion to which I don’t adhere. Prager just wants to co-opt big news to throw the same old punches.
“I don’t know if”—that’s a cheap shot, Prager’s excuse to verbalize a lie he hopes comes true or at least catches fire in the Trumpist/alt-right rumor mill to fuel his own arguments.
Prager mentions Notre Dame in his intro and his conclusion but nowhere in the body of his essay. He’s not writing about Notre Dame; he’s using it as a cheap rhetorical device to lure us down his diversionary and divisive path.
Prager’s essay, like Trump’s fire tanker tweet, is selfish crap, designed to propound his own imagined brilliance rather than to honor the cultural landmark we nearly lost, to console Paris and France, or to encourage the community spirit that will resurrect Notre Dame.
Good news from FOX News, they shutdown several conspiracy theorist on air when they got out of hand.
Why is it so difficult for people to accept the fact that this may well have been an accident?
There were no Muslims hiding in the attic, there were no cowardly neo-Nazi’s up there either.
Most likely there was a bad electrical connection that caused this destruction.
The French plan to rebuild starting tomorrow. They have already raised nearly $700 million and hope to complete the project in 5 years.
I wish the French well.
France has a bigger problem- right wing nut jobs in cahoots with the alt-right in America. Members of Drumpf’s cabinet/cabal have encouraged white supremacists all over Europe.
It was a triumph in human achievement 200 years in the making an astounding accomplishment. Couldn’t watch the footage it was so moving to have seen it in person reflecting what is possible, what they saw as possible, especially given their limited engineering knowledge but couple it with their spiritual motivations. They strived to be closer to the Big G which is still something everyone should define in their own way. There is no heavenly father but there is understanding.
“mike from iowa” writes:
I haven’t studied this enough to have a strong opinion on whether those are the real branches from Christ’s crown of thorns, but my understanding is that the emperor of Constantinople had the artifact for quite some time before Louis IX of France purchased it in the 1200s.
Deb Geelsdottir writes:
Deb obviously disagrees (ha ha).
I appreciated both Steve’s link and Cory’s rebuttal. Prager seems to have an unfortunate tendency to overgeneralize and stereotype large groups of people, and he demonstrates the common inability to distinguish between those who merely call themselves “Christians” and those who actually live according to Christ’s teachings.
Prager seems to have a case of Westboro Baptist Churchism: watch for something awful to happen, then exploit it for one’s own satisfaction, with no relevance to the matter at hand and no regard for the grief of those who have experienced loss.
Cory writes:
It’s kinda like hijacking a blog post with off-topic comments.
Speaking of which, I’d written:
I’d known there were a whole bunch of French kings named Louis, but today I learned that Louisiana, Saint Louis and Louisville are each named for a different guy (Louis XIV, Louis IX and Louis XVI respectively).
Wouldn’t have guessed that.