Representative Kristi Noem joins Senator Thune on WNAX to make stuff up about immigration policy. Dawdling through her last days in Washington, Rep. Noem fabricates a claim that “You know, I think that most people recognize… that we need to fund the wall….”
NPR does actual research and journalism to determine what most people really want, and it’s a functioning government, not a wall that Mexico was supposed to pay for:
By a 21-point margin — 57 percent to 36 percent — Americans think the president should compromise on the wall to avoid a government shutdown, rather than stand firm. About two-thirds of Republicans say the opposite, and the president has been focused on maintaining his base.
…”The wall is polarized in terms of partisanship,” said Barbara Carvalho, director of the Marist Poll at the Marist Institute for Public Opinion, which conducted the survey. “It’s an important issue for the president’s base. It is something that is not a particular interest or priority for Democrats and independents in the country, but what they all agree on is they don’t want to see gridlock, and they don’t want to see a government shutdown.”
…But not only do most Americans oppose risking a government shutdown over a wall, but more than two-thirds (69 percent) do not believe building a wall should even be an immediate priority for Congress. That includes half who do not believe it should be a priority at all.
…Just 44 percent approve of Trump’s immigration policy overall, which mirrors his most recent Marist Poll overall job approval rating of 42 percent… [Domenico Montanaro, “Poll: Americans Want Trump to Compromise on Border Wall to Avoid Possible Shutdown,” NPR, 2018.12.11].
Get out of your echo chamber, Kristi. Most Americans want you to compromise, deprioritize this useless showboating wall, and keep government running.
“…we need to fund the wall.”
No “we” don’t. Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall. As soon as Mexico appropriates the money, I have no problem building the wall using Mexico’s pesos.
“…we need to fund the wall.”
No “we” don’t. Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall. As soon as Mexico appropriates the money, I have no problem building the wall using Mexico’s pesos.
Build that Wall, around trump properties… Why wouldn’t people come to this country when they know that one of the biggest abusers of immigration is the illegal president.
Build that wall around the CAFO’s in South Dakota, Build that wall around the hospitality businesses in South Dakota, Build that wall around the timber business in South Dakota. Build that wall around the poultry and dairy businesses in South Dakota. There ya go NOem, just say NO to the hiring of un-registered guests.
Just keep up the PR Kristi, encourage the jailing and criminal neglect of immigrant and refugee children, break up families, support interment camps, allow little girls to die in custody while blaming their parents, suppress minority votes, build bigger prisons, eliminate consumer protection regulations on products for our people and for export, increase public environmental pollution options for profit, eliminate help to the needy and aged, and before long Mexico will pay to build that wall to keep people from the U.S. out of Mexico. We will become so toxic as a people, even Canada will build a wall to keep us out, all at no cost to republicans. You go girl.
We just built a wall around the trump foundation due to criminal activity. Number 2 dude and NOem support the criminal activity of the mafia known as the trump government. The hits keep coming and they haven’t even started on Pence yet, Damn!
“The attorney general, Barbara Underwood, accused the foundation of “a shocking pattern of illegality” that was “willful and repeated” and included unlawfully coordinating with Mr. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign.
This amounted to the Trump Foundation functioning as little more than a checkbook to serve Mr. Trump’s business and political interests,” Ms. Underwood said.” New York Times 12/18/2018
New Fake Noize polls say only 39% would vote for the crybaby in the kremlin annex.
Are there any national news sources available to South Dakota residents so they can actually see for themselves how many lies get dumped on them from DC? Can all these wingnuts be that willfully ignorant?
NOem, Number 2 dude and his sidekick all support the treasonous acts of trump as this is what this judge said today about Michael Flynn “”Arguably, you sold your country out,” Sullivan said. “The court’s going to consider all that. I cannot assure you that if you proceed today you will not receive a sentence of incarceration.”
He went on:
“I’m not hiding my disgust, my disdain for this criminal offense.”” Judge Sullivan presiding judge at the sentencing of the disgraced traitor general Michael Flynn. Flynn and Benedict Arnold can rot in hell for their treachery to our country.
Build a wall indeed, build it to house all of these common criminals for their hatred of democracy. LOCK THEM UP!
Speaking of voting, Jerry. It was revealed today that IRA (Russkies) targeted African American voters on social media at a much higher rate than they targeted any other voting block. Where are those Russian trolls that lived on DFP before the election telling us how #JustWalkAway was real? It shows (without a doubt) that African Americans in general are much more aware and perceptive to scam artists than Trump supporters in general. But, we already knew that, huh? Plus, it shows that there absolutely are Russians on this blog.
Cory’s blog site and platform are it mfi, all the media are to spooked to tell the truth about trumpians. We all thank him for his courage and the disparaging remarks that the trolls make about him. Cory is a journalistic hero to South Dakota. Cory has others that are listed on the side page, Northern Valley Beacon, Constant Commoner and the rest are very much appreciated with the news and views they provide. Ring the bell and thank Cory for a site to be proud of that has to do with his hard work!!
Indeed Porter a complete attack on American soil against all Americans. Judge Sullivan brings up what we have to address sometime:
DID FLYNN COMMIT TREASON?
Sullivan is now asking the special counsel’s office whether it ever considered charging Flynn with treason.
Prosecutor Brandon Van Grack struggles to answer, saying it wasn’t considered.
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10:01 AM – Dec 18, 2018″
Astounding!! That treason has now come into play for a National Security Adviser, serving in the White House, and doing his acts in front of the president.
We know China doesn’t mind paying for walls. Trump ought to demand that China pay for the wall as part of a trade deal. He’s some kind of super negotiator, at least according to him. China can use its own labor force and pay them $1/hour, or whatever the going rate is these days. Win/win.
Or maybe pay the migrant caravan to build the wall?
I don’t think a charge of treason is in the works, as it seems doubtful that Flynn “levies war against them [the U.S.] or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. . . . .”
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2381
Flynn apparently was assisting Russia with sanctions and/or Turkey, if I understand the facts of his case. Neither Russia nor Turkey would be considered an “enemy” of the U.S. because we are not at war with either one. A similar situation was considered in the infamous Rosenberg case, where a husband and wife were put to death for spying on behalf of Russia. As noted at page 920 of a lengthy and highly informative scholarly legal article about treason, however, they were not charged with treason for that reason.
https://scholarship.law.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1303&context=penn_law_review
It seem likely that the same reasoning would apply to Flynn. Maybe espionage (I have not researched the elements), but probably not treason.
Oh come on now. It shouldn’t be beyond recognizing that when the likes of Thune and Noem and Trump say something like “most people” they really mean “most of MY people. You know, the ones that vote FOR me.” I mean really – those “other people” don’t really count as whole persons.
BCB has made a point that I agree with. However, the US was and is engaged in a war in Syria, under a Congressional authorization for a use of force, and Russia is involved on what might be considered the “enemy” side. Sure, there are several “enemies” in typical a SNAFU manner of war in the Middle East. I’m sure under a looser interpretation of “enemy” we could make the case for “traitor.” It would be a stretch.
By what authority did Flynn possess that allowed him to talk governmental sanctions with Russia when he wasn’t a member of the government?
And this- all 83 judicial complaints about Kavernmouth’s judicial conduct over the past 10 years have been tossed to the wayside because Kavernmouth is a sitting SPOTUS justice and is not liable.
Donald, if I understand the original intent in considering how to make treason a crime in the U.S. our founders expressed a concern that prosecutions for treason could be misused to quash political dissidents as had happened in England under King George. Thus, the founders tried to make potential treason prosecutions specific and rare. One requirement that they imposed to distinguish this crime from others was that two witnesses were necessary to prove whatever treasonist acts were charged.
Thus, if the Flynn facts fall within a grey area it seems doubtful that treason could have been successfully charged. And as we know, he can be charged with other related crimes that are much easier to prove. Likewise, uncharged criminal behavior is a factor that a sentencing judge may consider in imposing sentence. Here, it is possible that the judge’s questions about treason suggest that he may be considering such uncharged conduct related to treason in deciding whether to impose jail time as part of Flynn’s sentence.
bcb, Treason is what the judge in this matter asked about. The judge is privy to information that we do not have. The government did not say that treason was out of bounds though, so there is that. To me, it is astounding that was a question in the first place. What more is going on that we don’t know of…yet.
Jerry, good point. Federal sentencing judges almost always know much more about a defendant than is disclosed to the general public, due in part to confidential pre-sentencing investigation reports (PSIR) prepared by probation officers for the judge.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentence_investigation_report
A woman who was in to pad her accoutn at five grand a picture pretty low trumpy girl.