The Tri-Valley School District’s participation in the school sentinel/gunslinger program, arming some secret teacher or custodian(s), didn’t deter or catch this gun crime:
An 18-year-old student at Tri-Valley is accused of having four guns in a vehicle on school grounds.
The Minnehaha County Sheriff’s Department discovered four weapons: an AR-15, a Browning 25-06 rifle, a .38 Spanish revolver, and a .22 semi-automatic rifle.
Nathan Andrew Ewer faces weapons charges, but he’s also been charged with possession of a controlled substance. That was also found in the vehicle [Mark Russo, “Guns at Tri-Valley, Student Busted,” KELO Radio, 2018.10.25].
Notice it was real law enforcement officers who handled this search and arrest. It was real law enforcement officers, the ones Tri-Valley contends are too far away to help, who eliminated this threat.
The suspect publicly posted this photo as a profile pic on Facebook in 2011… when he might have been in fifth grade:
We don’t improve safety by putting more guns in more hands. We improve safety by properly funding regular law enforcement, just as we improve education by properly funding education… and not distracting school staff with the awful, attention-consuming, and dangerous burden of carrying firearms around children.
How was the school unsafe?
The guns were in a vehicle.
The sentinel program isn’t to break the Fourth Amendment rights of people Cory.
This is a very ignorant article.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, the site of white nationalist terror, told trump to stay the hell away from their city. Jason, take your white nationalism and stick it where the sun don’t shine right along with where the good folks in Pittsburgh told our head white nationalist Russian hater in chief. Clearly, we are sick of the gun violence and we are sick of those that perpetuate it through Antisemitism and outright racism, that you are all familiar with.
“Jewish leaders in #Pittsburgh pen powerful letter to Trump.
— “President Trump, you are not welcome in Pittsburgh until you fully denounce white nationalism.”
— “President Trump, you are not welcome in Pittsburgh until you stop targeting and endangering all minorities.””
Thanks to the paying attention of students and officials at Tri-Valley to keep another would be gun nut from doing permanent damage to the innocent.
I forgot to mention that Cory lied. There was no threat made by the person who owned the guns.
Boy, if I just read Jason’s comments, it sounds like this guy was falsely arrested and charged!
Jason — will you be hiring a defense attorney to help get this 18 year old ammosexual out of the blatantly false charges (sarcasm there) that have been leveled against him?
My point is this (and it will fly over the head of full time antagonist Jason) if there was no crime, why did LEO arrest? And it appears that Jason is a supporter of an 18 year old high school student bringing as many damn guns with him to a school campus as he wants to. Including an AR15! Perfectly reasonable for someone to have that many guns in their vehicle —- on a school campus. (SMH)
Whoever provided the tip to LEO, standing ovation. Much potential violence was prevented.
White nationalist Jason lied as it is forbidden to bring guns into a school zone. Guns on school zone property are always treated as threats. White nationalists like Jason cannot read, but maybe his mom can read it to him.
“The Gun-Free School Zones Act (GFSZA) is an act of the U.S. Congress prohibiting any unauthorized individual from knowingly possessing a loaded or unsecured firearm at a place that the individual knows, or has reasonable cause to believe, is a school zone as defined by 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(25).”
Cory doesn’t lie only lying liars like you lie.
There should be reassurance that the school sentinel(s) haven’t morphed into a pseudo-police patrol function. They are intended to be available to react to an active shooter situation, and, in this case, there never was one.
Yes, possessing unauthorized firearms on school property is a crime and should be prosecuted. In this case, the firearms in the vehicle were found as a result of an unrelated inquiry/investigation.
I have a relative who is an administrator at a small school in South Dakota. She tells a story about taking one of the many vehicles on their farm to drive to school and realizing that it had been used for hunting and still had firearms in it. Relieved that she hadn’t unknowingly violated the law by parking in the school lot, she parked on the street across from the school.
The other story related to this that I’ll cite is when President Clinton came to the Pine Ridge in the 1990s. The Secret Service was all set to act against any vehicle with a loaded gun rack until it was explained that: 1) there were many such vehicles in and near Pine Ridge; and 2) that federal enforcement on reservation land is problematic on several levels. Needless to say, everything went well and almost no one was aware there was ever a question about local access to firearms in proximity to the President.
“The suspect publicly posted this photo as a profile pic on Facebook in 2011” you used this to qualify your condemnation of the young man?
I think we all need to step back from radicalizing every little incident. This young man’s life is now probably ruined, no one was threatened, no one was hurt.
Creating a media incident is what led to the shooting in Philly. In that case it was a mentally challenged man who sat in his basement watching the news demonize everyone and everything. More media attention such as the article above does the same thing. Thank God the guns were in a car outside of the school. The kids was responsible enough not to bring them in. Give him a break. peace.
People who possess guns with altered serial numbers don’t get breaks. This was not your down on the farm average joe gun owner. I have no opinion on whether he was radicalized or not but I can assure you there is nothing responsible about this gun owner and you won’t find any reasonable gun owner willing to back this kid’s actions.
This issue came up when I was on the school board in RC. A student who practiced at a shooting range left the gun in the car by mistake. It was an unfortunate situation, but the student was expelled.
A security person on rounds discovered the gun in a car parked in the student parking lot. Schools have a policy, at least we did, that anything on school property may be searched. This policy is legal. Schools may search lockers and bags for drugs and weapons. That didn’t mean security could break into a car, but they could visually inspect, and if anything suspicious was found, they could alert the police, who would make the decision. Having guns on school property is illegal, and there was a zero tolerance policy, so this student’s act was illegal and reason for expulsion.
I think all board members came to the conclusion that this student was not a threat, but having a weapon in plain sight in the vehicle could have been a temptation for some other student to steal it and start shooting. The policy was well-known by the student. Either you have these policies and they enforced, or you have a higher potential for slaughters in schools. Whenever these issues were brought up with parents, they demanded zero tolerance for weapons on school property and tough enforcement of that policy. Common sense wins out.
Good point Mr. Buresh, as a gun owner myself, and supporter of the 2nd Amendment and all of the rest of them, I would never consider having or buying a gun of any kind that had altered numbers. These were not hunting guns, so that theory of forgetting you had a gun in your vehicle in a school zone, doesn’t cut it.
OldSpankshisownmonkey characteristically claims everyone does it while mainstream media point out the violent rhetoric spews out of Drumpf’s pie hole.
Drumpf is mainly responsible for the hate in this country as it stands today and Trolls need to get over themselves and their impulses to blame everybody but themselves.
Drumpf is the poorest excuse of an alleged world leader since who knows when.
The baboon with a gun photo is a before picture. With his eye up tight against the scope, that baboon would learn the hard way about recoil when it pulled the trigger. Now it has a circular scar around its eyelid and a healthy respect for firearms.
Yeah, they did the right thing. I wonder about that student’s family. Are they gun lovers? Big difference between people who use and respect guns and the ammosexual/gun nut types. I hope there is some plan to keep an eye on that boy and have a nice long chat with his parents.
Jason, you lie again.
Stop calling me a liar when you really just want to play word games.
Guns in a vehicle on school grounds are a threat. Law enforcement officers eliminated that threat.
You’re not reading, are you, OS?
The suspect happened to post a picture that helped illustrate my point about gun policy. To save your point, please point to me any condemnatory word I used about the suspect specifically.
I tire of dealing with OS and Jason, who are more interested in insulting me than in discussing public policy.
Building on Dan’s and Michael’s comments, we’re not talking about a kid driving in from the ranch with a coyote rifle in the rear-window rack. We’re talking about a student hauling four firearms in his vehicle.
Guns in a vehicle on school grounds are not a threat to student safety.
That’s a fact Cory.
Jason, your statement about guns in a vehicle not being a threat may be your opinion, but you have failed to establish that it is a fact.
A simple google search confirms that guns in vehicles on school grounds are in fact dangerous.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2018/01/27/dearborn-high-school-shooting/1071836001/
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/15/heres-how-everytowns-disputed-report-of-18-school-shootings-breaks-down.html
Indeed, how do you think school shooters typically get their AR-15’s, other weapons, and ammo from home to school – on their bikes or skateboards?
Bearcreekbat is spot on.
If the guns in the vehicle weren’t a threat, why would law enforcement have confiscated them and arrested the vehicle owner?
And why didn’t those scary school sentinels deter this threat?
Cory,
He was arrested because he broke the law. That doesn’t make the guns a threat. The person who owned them never made a threat.
Guns don’t threaten people, people threaten people.
We can discuss how the current law banning gun in school parking lots is useless if you want?
This young man’s life is now probably ruined, no one was threatened, no one was hurt.
Been hearing this same wingnut talking point about all them pipe bombs that couldn’t explode so there was no threat involved.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/guns-send-8-300-kids-hospitals-each-year-study-finds-n925906
….and schools are full of…wait for it..wait….kids!
Jason – We can have that discussion BUT before we do it’s important to know where someone sits before we can analyze where they stand. Tell us your background knowledge of guns and weapons systems both civilian and military. Be thorough because (quite frankly) you have a history involving the truth.
Guns are intrinsically a threat. Their entire purpose for being is destruction. Any responsible gun owner will say to treat EVERY gun like it is loaded and dangerous.
Jason is running on about things he knows nothing about. The mere presence of weapons on school grounds is viewed as a threat to the safety of other students and staff. There is, unfortunately, ample reason for this concern. As a result, there is a zero tolerance policy for weapons on school property.
When my daughter was in elementary school, a handgun was found on the playground. It was not loaded, but had it been loaded and found by a first grader, the result may have been a dead student.
In the 1990s Rapid City Stevens had an incident in which a troubled student used a gun to hold a classroom hostage for hours.
But it isn’t just guns. A student with a knife in his backpack was expelled for carrying it into school in his packpack.
There is a zero tolerance policy bringing any weapon onto school property. The reason for that is weapons added to immaturity and the stresses of school and adolescence can lead to death. In my day there would be fisticuffs after school, a bloody nose and a trip to detention. That’s far better than a trip to the undertaker.
Nearly all parents are onboard with a zero tolerance policy for weapons. If a high school junior brings a gun in his backpack, school authorities aren’t going to let the kid tote it around until he decides to take it out and blow somebody away. The possession of a gun in school is a threat to the peaceful operation of a school. Period. The weapon doesn’t have to be brandished around like Samuel L. Jackson does in Pulp Fiction. A weapon sitting in a car in the school parking lot is an invitation for some youngster to break in and steal it and settle an issue with a teacher or classmate.
Waltz into any school and shout ‘GUN’ and see what happens. If guns aren’t a threat.nobody should react.
MFI, I would advise against that, but I get your point
Just seen this for the first time-
https://www.wonkette.com/guess-who-nra-told-americans-nra-to-use-guns-nra-to-stop-george-soros-nra-in-2006
Soesn’t suprise me that the rhetoric from the right has heated up so much.
Donald and O are right: guns are intrinsically a threat. If the guns weren’t a threat, we wouldn’t have the law, and law enforcement wouldn’t have arrested him. I welcome you, Jason, to appear in court as a witness to explain why the guns were not a threat and why the law should be thrown out.
Hands and knives are intrinsically a threat also Cory according to your logic.
The person in your article did not make a threat.
We have more than a few dumb laws.
Hands, knives, and guns don’t attack people by themselves. Homo sapiens do the attacking.
The Troll argues just to make noise. Take Cory up and appear in court as a witless for the defendant.
And as for your witless statement guns don’t attack by themselves, may I offer this link as exhibit A- https://www.jurist.org/news/2018/07/federal-appeals-court-allows-remington-firearms-class-action-settlement-to-proceed/
Great link mfi, Even the military got screwed on their new pistol that attacks by themselves. http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2018/06/investigates/sig-sauer-p320-drop-fire/
Jason, school policies treat knives as weapons. Knives come under the same zero tolerance policies that districts establish for weapons.
You are unmasking yourself as a fool. Talk to parents about whether guns and knives should be allowed to be brought by students into schools, and they will look at you like you are crazy. Sane people know the difference in damage and death that can be done in a short amount of time by an angry student with a gun or a knife. Hands aren’t considered a weapon, Jason. Now if that hand turns to a fist and that fist is used as a weapon, that student is going to be expelled, ie., his fist is banned from the school.
The threat, Jason, is bringing the weapon to school. That is an intrinsic threat, because there is no reason to have a gun on school property unless the intent is malevolent. Not only is it a law, insurers of school districts require such policies. If a district does not have those policies and enforce them, insurers will refuse to cover that district.
Jason, you best move on. Sanity will prevail in schools because parents love their children too much to buy your schtick, because school boards want to make schools a safe place to learn and to work, and because insurers don’t want to pay out mega-millions to parents whose children die when another student goes off the rails.
Donald,
Most parents I know want their kids protected by good guys with guns.
You are seriously dumb if you think I am advocating for students to bring guns and knives into the school building.
I am saying a weapon in a vehicle is not a threat.
Would you like to discuss how a student could kill a teacher with a pencil?
Student stabs teacher with…pencil. Gwaad your a dumbarse white nationalistic troll.
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Santa-Rosa-High-School-Student-Arrested-After-Stabbing-Teacher-With-Pencil-232775131.html
Would you like to discuss how a student could kill a teacher with a pencil?
George Gordon Battle Liddy already explained that CIA technique in a leading men’s magazine back after James Earl Carter foolishly pardoned his skanky arse.
Jerry, Remington knew way back in the late 40’s there was a significant problem with trigger design which they fought all these years to not have to fix. You know- cost prohibitive to,make safe product and wingnuts were more than willing to protect them from liability.
Weapons in vehicles can be stolen and used by others to kill or threaten. Anyone who has a weapon in a car parked in a school parking lot is violating the law. Responsible gun ownership requires, at minimum, following the laws, which includes keeping guns off school property.
BTW, that .38 Spanish revolver is also known as a “Saturday Night Special” cost about 60 bucks and were made for the poor drug dealers on skid row. This piece probably has a history.
It’s one of the more ludicrous examples of bizarre history in the USA.
Part F: We have this abominably high number of human beings killed by guns, either accidentally or intentionally. (Fact)
Part L: We have a business lobbying group that stubbornly INSISTS that guns are not the problem. (Ludicrous)
What’s even more bizarre? They expect to be taken seriously. Beeeeeee-zarrrrrrrrrr. 🙃🙃🙃
OMG! You guys have got to get over yourselves. If you don’t like or respect our culture in South Dakota then just butt out and stick to the state you all live in. Debbo, mike, jerry fix your own states and then come and give your worthless advice and thoughts.
Get over yourself, asswagon. This isn’t a South Dakota blog. It’s a political blog and who invited you?
Donald,
Bad guys don’t follow laws.
That’s why good guys with guns take care of the problem.
This thread is about Cory not wanting good guys with guns in schools.
Most people in South Dakota want their kids protected in school. Laws don’t protect kids, good guys with guns do.
Debbo,
https://www.google.com/search?q=school+knife+attack&oq=scho&aqs=chrome.0.69i59j69i61j35i39j0j69i61j69i60.993j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Anybody who says the solution to gun violence is more guns is f***ing crazy.
Show me your gun Jason and I will take it from you and shove it up your @$$. I don’t need my own gun to do that.
Wow! Rorschach are you always this violent? Have you ever thought it is people like you that encourage the rest of us to buy more guns? I would bet if we had a period of peace where animals like Rorschach didn’t run around threatening people we could have fewer weapons but, alas, when the left decided they thought they could indiscriminately threaten law abiding citizens for simply voicing their views they screwed there whole game.
Just to clarify, OldSarg speaks only for himself and the peculiar culture that he has adopted. The reality is that South Dakota is made up of a diverse group of individuals, most of which value the safety of their children and welcome people from outside the state to visit, work, play, share opinions, and participate in our daily life.
Please pay no attention to OS’s xenophobic demands as he is sui generis in most of the extreme views Cory generously permits him to post on DFP.
Bear,
The majority of SD residents don’t care what non-residents think.
I expect nothing less than violence from the left. They shot US Congressmen.
And … we support the Muslim Brotherhood who wants nothing more than to get their hands on little Jason’s like you. Should I give them your address, boy?
The two white nationalist trolls are on the same page once again, delightful. In troll speak about being from out of state, like these Russian paid trolls are from South Dakota, more like South Odessa.
Here is a thought, your boy trump wants to do away with the 14th Amendment with an Executive Order. If the head white nationalist can do that, he can also Executive Order the elimination of the 2nd Amendment or any of the rest. So maybe trump will want to do that so’s you Russian fellers will not get any resistance from the real Americans…regardless of what state they are from.
White nationalists, here is what Jesus says. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXRsNn7HP28
Stop whimpering Jason and OldSarge.
Jason, I disagree with your opinion that the majority of SD residents don’t care what non-residents think, but I am open to changing my view if you can point to any credible evidence to support such a sad statement about our families, friends and neighbors in this state. My experience here over a lifetime contradicts your opinion, but I will admit that I could be mistaken.
What research or studies can you point me to that support the unlikely idea that most SD residents exhibit a narrow minded xenophobic attitude toward the ideas, opinions and thoughts of non-residents? After all, even our conservative legislature frequently sends SD legislators out of state to conferences and meetings to gain ideas and knowledge for new legislation from non-residents.
And to clarify OS, my comment at 17:37 was in reference to your comment at 14:47, although it certainly applies to many other of your comments attacking people based on where they live or were born. As for Cory, I have never asked him to suspend you or anyone else from posting on his blog, although I have recommended he eliminate or delete objectively false statements. It appears to me that for the most part he simply calls out the falsity of posts rather than delete them, although I have not seen what posts, if any, he may have deleted since they would have been deleted.
“Should I give them your address, boy?” ~ Porter
what a “brave” man.
Listen, you brain dead baboon. Wrap your hands with toilet paper and take a big crap in it. Then go offer it to someone who gives a damn about your opinions. Nobody around here cares about your neurotic problems.
Jason, “I expect nothing less than violence from the left. They shot US Congressmen.”
Any day you choose to decide which side is more violent – liberal or conservative – by counting the acts of violence perpetrated by each side, I’ll be glad to sit with you and count.
The threat to the public comes from right wingnut ammosexuals with a Dirty Harry complex crossed with Rambo. For some inexplicable reason they firmly believe that gun toting ammosexuals can do what a trained police officer can’t, protect citizens.
I’ll take my chances with law enforcement and if I thought it was an absolute necessity, I would arm myself. But, unlike right wingers who imagine a minority threat behind every rock, I am not paranoid.
And OldSmokeouthisarse, you are the filthiest liar on this blog when you accuse bcb of calling anyone names or asking to have you or your vile mouth banned.
Of the 17 members of congress shot while in office, 12 were Democrats.
“Listen, you brain dead baboon. Wrap your hands with toilet paper and take a big crap in it.”~ Porter.
What a brave, brave man. I often think of great men like Porter and all they have sacrificed for their own well being and think what a positive influence and contributor to our community he could have been but, alas, he is now old, feeble and living in a land far away from our home in South Dakota. It is heartbreaking to know he only cared for himself and not for his brethren so instead of making our state great he left to never return. Sad in a way he never had the fortitude to stand as a man and instead threatens others from his keyboard. We could have been friends and brothers Porter. I would still welcome you back if you changed your heart. peace
You have no friends.
As I’ve said before, this blog is so much more informative, thoughtful and challenging when I ignore the trolls. However, I understand from smart people’s comments that the trolls are back to crying about people who aren’t current SD residents. Can there be any clearer sign that they have Nothing? Empty heads resorting to tantrums.
Such is life on a good blog that respects free speech, even mindless speech. 😁😁😁
Just to reiterate–
Guns are the problem. Nations with stricter gun laws have lower death rates. Can’t argue with that fact, so boys, you’ll just have to complain that I live in Minnesota.
Yeah, that will fix me!
Debbo, just as Trumpists’ language is infectious, spreading its evil throughout our country from the bully pulpit, I must believe that our language can infect as well, can affect, inoculate, and inspire, can remind our fellow Americans that we can seek the good, the intelligent, the decent.
I want to believe that we can set an example with our words, as Barack Obama so frequently did, and as Donald Trump has not done once in his occupation of the White House.
I want to believe that, even as OS and Jason clutter our comment section with their distractions and personal attacks, they are still being exposed to what we are saying, and thus are perhaps a little healthier, a little more prone to realizing they are wrong, than if they spent all day reading the inferior online material that would only reinforce their worldviews.
I am an eternal optimist.
Guns also pose an inherent threat. We are at greater rish when guns are present than when guns are not present.
You are an eternal optimist, and I congratulate you for it. Having more people with that quality would be a plus.
If there are EROs (Education Resource Officers) who have been trained and are sworn police officers and the insurance carrier is OK with it, I have no problem with an armed officer being in a school. Otherwise we should keep guns out.
Madison, WI, has such EROs in schools. The program was established years ago when gang problems in the community infiltrated into schools. The ERO program is professional in its operation, but it is controversial as many see it as a school to jail program. When you’re dealing with gangs, you can’t have a Barney Fife operation, which is what you advocate.
Donald, I grudgingly accept uniformed and armed resource officers in the schools. They serve a legitimate purpose and provide the only real exception I’m willing to entertain to the preferable rule of allowing no guns in school.
Likewise, I wholeheartedly oppose any measure requiring police to carry algebra books around the police station and in their patrol cars and to be prepared to drop their regular duties at any moment to respond to any citizen who does not know how to use the quadratic formula.
Maybe have the ERO unidentifiable like the Marshals on commercial flights….you just never know who will be the one defending the AK
With his/her glock. Would Illiminate police state or command figure
Mr. H, I, too, grudzingly accept those armed resource officers, and believe they serve a legitimate purpose and will smite the wrong do-ers. I still believe we need to arm the janitors and not the teachers, as the custodians and their supervisors probably best know how to handle firearms and blunt force weapons. We need the custodian out there, not the math teacher, fighting back against these monsters.
Failure to protect, got this police officer a $100,000.00 pension a year. All of this for not protecting the kids. Good guy with a gun? Not so good, but very very well paid for his inaction’s. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/05/16/parkland-school-shooting-disgraced-deputy-scot-peterson-has-100-k-pension/615868002/
Young dude who killed those kids was about the same age as this gunslinger. We don’t need armed guards, we need less hate and more mental health treatments.
“we need less hate and more mental health treatments.”
Agreed Jerry, and less guns.
Another brainiac, this time in Brookings “BROOKINGS | A South Dakota State University student could face discipline after a gun accidentally fired in a campus dorm room.
University spokesman Mike Lockrem says the student was cleaning his gun after hunting and it discharged last week. No one was injured. Lockrem tells the Argus Leader that having a gun on campus is against the university’s policy. However students can store firearms with the campus police department.”
Geesh, even in colleges you cannot have a gun on campus. This squirrel was probably a political science major that obviously is not to damn smart.
“cleaning his gun.” Riiiiight. What was he really doing? Showing off to his doofus pals probably. They always say, “I was just cleaning it,” because they don’t want to admit to whatever stupid crap they were really doing.
Ammosexuals split a half brain among them.
Sounds like that gun was a threat.
The adult idiot was the threat.
Jason: “The adult idiot was a threat.”
You know I tend to agree. This SDSU student was an idiot, couldn’t follow simply rules, clearly didn’t know how to handle a gun and shouldn’t be in possession of one. This “idiot” should be permanently stripped of his right to own a firearm, enjoined to never carry one and given a few years in prison for endangering the lives of students. Idiocy mixed with a gun producing a threat of serious enough concern that this guy should be ushered off campus, pronto.