I smell something funny in the fiscal impact statements on the marijuana-related ballot measures currently being petitioned around South Dakota.
The Legislative Research Council has determined that the measure from South Dakotans Against Prohibition to decriminalize possession of marijuana would result in 3,174 fewer convictions each year. The LRC does not break down how many of those convictions currently result in prison time, but it concludes that the net savings on court and incarceration would $731,742 per year. That’s $230.54 per conviction.
The LRC previously analyzed the fiscal impacts of Bob Newland’s proposals to penalize the transfer of alcohol and tobacco the same as the transfer of marijuana. The LRC concluded that the alcohol ban would convict 685 people a year and put 417 of them in the pokey, at an annual cost of $4,753,805. That’s $6,939.86 per alcohol conviction. The tobacco ban would convict 263 and incarcerate 161 at a cost of $1,840,181. That’s $6,996.89 per tobacco conviction.
Newland’s measures propose the same level penalties for alcohol and tobacco as are currently authorized for marijuana. Yet the LRC calculates that the cost of those new alcohol and tobacco convictions would be 30 times the cost of current marijuana convictions.
Also strangely, while far more people in South Dakota use alcohol or tobacco than use marijuana (just among kids in 2012–2013, 6.2% used marijuana, 8.0% smoked tobacco, and 17.8% engaged in binge drinking), the LRC calculates that alcohol convictions under the Newland proposal would equal less than a quarter of the marijuana convictions averted by decriminalization; tobacco convictions, a mere twelfth.
If we apply the average cost per conviction cited in the two bans, decriminalizing marijuana and taking 3,174 convictions off the books each year should save the state of South Dakota $1,121,420,000. $1.1 billion—that can’t be true, since the entire FY2016 corrections budget is only $94 million; the entire general fund budgets $1.4 billion. The ACLU estimates that the national cost of enforcing marijuana laws is $3.6 billion. The LRC’s numbers for the cost of marijuana convictions thus seem more reasonable than the extrapolation I get from the costs for alcohol and tobacco prohibition. I would thus tentatively conclude that the LRC has overstated the costs of convictions under Newland’s proposals while underestimating the number of convictions (unless the LRC is editorializing that the Attorney General would not prosecute alcohol and tobacco bans with the same vigor as the current marijuana ban).
But at least on those measures we have numbers to analyze. Turning to medical marijuana, the LRC says the measure from New Approach South Dakota (which says it now has an office and 7,240 signatures) would “prevent a number of marijuana convictions.” The LRC does not tell us that number, diverging from the specificity of the decriminalization measure and the other two marijuana-related measures. Instead, this fiscal impact statement concludes that legalizing medical marijuana has caused more marijuana use, dependence, and abuse. Thus, with more people going to jail for recreational marijuana use, the medical cannabis initiative “will likely have a minimal net impact on prison and jail costs.”
Notice that the LRC did not work that hard on the other measures, trying to estimate social effects that would lead to other convictable crimes.
My experience with other issues is that the Legislative Research Council is a bastion of reliable and independent legal analysis. The strange numbers in the fiscal statements on the marijuana-related ballot measures suggests the LRC has slipped a bit… or at least has done some math it hasn’t explained.
The only numbers that can be cited reasonably accurately are the numbers that exist, i.e., current prosecutions and the costs thereof for cannabis violations. The LRC has been given the duty of estimating the impact of proposed laws, so it made estimates. The LRC can hardly be faulted for trying to come up with numbers without adequate knowledge–knowledge that is impossible to obtain–of all of the variables which would affect those numbers should the proposed changes go into effect.
Now, if Lynn would tell us what is about the right amount of prison time to assign someone who puts a harmful substance into his/her body, the LRC would at least have a starting place.
LRC has slipped a bit…??? The council may have had a “joint session”. Decriminalizing weed will of course save Sodak money. It’s been approved by police forces nationwide. Very few citizens in South Dakota smoke pot; mostly seniors. Who wants their friends and acquaintances continually hassled by regulations of a benign marijuana policy?
Wouldn’t data from Colorado help has a starting point?
Since the legalization of having/using pot has the number of pot related arrests in Colorado decreased?
Hi, jeniw … We’ve not been introduced but may I respond to your inquiry about CO, where I’ve lived since leaving Sodak 40 years ago. Marijuana was decriminalized over twenty years ago and no one has been arrested for small amounts, since. Before legalization if a citizen was found to have possession of pot, a ticket for a fine of $100 was written with no court appearance was necessary…the pot was confiscated. Typically, decriminalization means no arrest, prison time, or criminal record for the first-time possession of a small amount of marijuana for personal consumption. Police have better things to concentrate on and fully support decriminalization.
If one gets jail time for alcohol and not weed, then comparing costs is apples to oranges. At $230 per conviction, there is very seldom jail for marijuana.
The real question is if people do more crime while under the influence of a particular mind altering substance whether it is alcohol, marijuana or hard drugs. That is when the most crime happens.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27421987/marijuana-involved-12-percent-colorado-state-patrol-dui
Read more: http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/marijuana-petitioners-hitting-all-parts-of-wyoming-organizer-says/article_b4515d01-cb41-540a-a83a-eff5f20c395a.html#ixzz3kXIgyfo3
Forum editorial: Let’s vote on medical marijuana
http://www.starherald.com/opinion/opinion-cannabis/article_6204f4bc-82fa-51ef-974d-821e02c60413.html
http://www.wyomingnews.com/articles/2015/07/01/news/20local_07-01-15.txt#.VeZDMCVViko
http://lasvegassun.com/news/2015/sep/01/tight-state-testing-rules-constrict-supply-medical/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/voters-primary-state-marijuana-laws_55dca76be4b04ae497049b07
Why people want to leave cannabis rights in the hands of foreign drug lords who operate with impunity remains a mystery.
As the nation continues to see fewer smokers, so has South Dakota, although the state’s most recent data show its rate is still higher than the national average.
http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/south-dakota-smoking-rate-falls-remains-higher-than-national-average/article_2c271928-c872-533a-929b-ac1fedc6afa3.html
http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/national/man-who-got-life-for-marijuana-charge-goes-free-in/article_a0f07fe6-ecbd-523a-b0d9-9bd7ff093ebb.html
Hear me now?
Veteran: We Should Not Have to Break Laws to Find Cannabis Relief for PTSD
Imagine letting veterans die because people are too stupid to save them.
Aside from the distorted claims someone was thrown in jail for 20 years just for smoking one joint and other pro-pot distorted propaganda it will be interesting to see what this new anti-legalization group here in South Dakota has for stats and trends here in South Dakota and what has happened in states such as Colorado. There seems to be a conflict with what is claimed by the pro-pot advocates and what’s actually going on which doesn’t sound too good. No surprise there.
I’d love to hear from Rep Deutsch
Rep Deutsch was evidently in Colorado for a conference and mentioned some disturbing trends from legalization. It would be great if he could share with us what was covered there that could help educate South Dakotans with these upcoming ballot initiatives and with Flandreau Santee Sioux tribe opening up their pot den this winter.
Fred Deutsch has all the brains of a dry sponge.
My own prognosis resides in a Catch 22: since cannabis has kept my intraocular pressure low i don’t qualify for New Mexico’s medical card meant to treat the glaucoma that has not developed.
http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/health_and_science/state-poised-to-issue-new-producer-s-licenses-for-medical/article_a49ff2b8-8cbb-53ab-ade3-7cfc3a0a6154.html
“Gun Shots Reported In Sioux Falls Neighborhood” Ah yes! Just another peaceful in Potopia. Oh my! The police reports we could go thru.
SIOUX FALLS, SD – Two people are facing a string of charges for allegedly firing a gun in a Sioux Falls neighborhood.
Gunshots were heard near Madison St. and West Ave. just before 7 Tuesday night. Several witnesses reported seeing a tan suburban leave the area around the same time.
An officer spotted the vehicle a short time later and was eventually able to get the driver to stop on Phillips Avenue near the Orpheum Theatre.
A search of the SUV turned up a hand gun, a small amount of marijuana and drug paraphernalia.
The driver, 24 year-old Khiry Smith was arrested on Possession of Concealed Weapon, Possession of Marijuana less than 2oz, Possession of Paraphernalia, Open Container, Failure to Yield to Emergency Vehicle and a Red Light Violation. The passenger, 28-year-old Jaunte Berry was arrested on Felon in Possession of a Firearm, Reckless Discharge of a Firearm from a vehicle, Possession of a Concealed Weapon, Possession of Marijuana less than 2 oz, and Possession of Paraphernalia.
At this time there have been no reports of any injury or property damage from the shots fired.
Keloland September 1, 2015, 10:05 PM
Correlation is causation like Linda Daugaard does yoga.
Just because bacon is legal doesn’t mean people should rub it on their glutei.
September is Childhood Obesity Awareness Month in Iowa. – See more at: http://wnax.com/news/180081-september-is-obesity-awareness-month/#sthash.ceLvq4LC.dpuf
Marty Jackley joins a LaPierreian murder of crows in Illinois firearms case:
http://www.kdlt.com/news/local-news/Jackley-Joins-Other-AGs-In-Opposing-Weapons-Ban-In-Illinois/35057844
Guns are gateway drugs.