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South Dakota Coronavirus Rt Spread Rate Jumps to Third-Highest in US; Summer Not Helping

I try to find positive news about coronavirus, like the data I reported on July 26 showing that South Dakotans were spreading coronavirus at the second-lowest rate in the nation. But Rt-live, the same source I used for that July 26 post, has updated its data and now reports that South Dakota is spreading coronavirus at the third-fastest rate in the nation:

Rt-live, coronavirus Rt values by state, retrieved 2020.08.12.
Rt-live, coronavirus Rt values by state, retrieved 2020.08.12.

Again, we want the spread rate to be below 1.0, meaning that every hundred people who get coronavirus will infect fewer than a hundred people. 30 states have Rt below 1.0; South Dakota’s is at 1.14, meaning 100 coroanvirus-positive people will infect 114 other people… and exponents run the show from there.

In other news, in case it isn’t already apparent, summer hasn’t killed coronavirus:

Some had hoped that heat and humidity would stifle transmission of the coronavirus. From the earliest days of the outbreak during the winter months, President Trump claimed the pandemic would end in warmer weather.

But studies — and the ebb and flow of the virus in the United States itself — have shown that is not the case.

Coronavirus cases rose quickly in cities such as Houston, Austin, Dallas and Phoenix in the summer months, even as the mercury rose into the triple digits. The two countries hit hardest by the virus outside North America — Brazil and India — are both hot weather climates. In Russia, where the climate is much cooler, more than 890,000 people have tested positive for the virus [link added; Reid Wilson, “WHO: Coronavirus Unaffected by Seasonal Changes,” The Hill, 2020.08.10].

We’re still positive… but the wrong kind of positive, coronavirus-positive.

77 Comments

  1. Steve 2020-08-13 08:11

    We test more. The mortality and serious hospitalization numbers continue to decrease. It’s not as bad as first thought. Granted, very contagious. It’s funny though, you and other Dems are screaming about closing down and keep things shut to stop Covid….and yet in the next breath attack Trump for an economy in pain. Hypocrisy is rampant with liberals.

    #liberalismistherealpandemic

  2. jerry 2020-08-13 08:24

    Test more? Please Steve trump. Yesterday, we were well over 100, how is that a decrease? Well that is a decrease if we are comparing it to say 200.

    I guess you, like most republicans, are clueless on how economy’s work. So here is the deal. If you sit on your arse and let the virus run rampant, the economy contracts (that means slows). Your boy trump did that and your gal GNOem did it as well…and you still don’t get it.

    #steveandtherestofthetrumpviruspandemic

  3. Steve 2020-08-13 08:41

    Having 100 test positive is not a decrease but you chose not to read what I wrote. Mortality of this continues to drop significantly and hospitalizations as well. The projected numbers were thousands in the hospital. That has not happened. READ first before posting.

    DEMOCRATS wanted the shut down. Get real.

  4. jerry 2020-08-13 08:54

    The FED wants the shutdown, because they know it’s real. We are treating the trump virus differently now as this pandemic surges. Ask Texas how that mortality thingy is going. We are still dying at over 1,000 a day here in the good old US of A, that is an improvement from say 2,000 a day, but death is death.

  5. Steve 2020-08-13 08:57

    Trump virus would mean that he created it or started it. It is a VIRUS Jerry. It’s extremely contagious. The shut down was supposed to sway the curve, not end the virus. Now months and months and we need to allow businesses to be open, schools etc. There is no magic bullet here. The length of the spring was a mistake. Now let’s learn from that mistake and get going.

    The Covid-19 virus originated in CHINA. CHINA. CHINA. So let’s call it what it is. China virus you libtard.

  6. Anne 2020-08-13 10:07

    Someone claims the mortality rates and hospitalization rates are decreasing while the CDC issues this bulletin: “The U.S. reported more than 1,500 new deaths caused by COVID-19 on Wednesday, making it the deadliest day for the country since the end of May.” Comments from trolls and the intellectually incompetent should simply be deleted. They degrade serious information and discussion. Then that someone chides a commenter for calling the Covid-19 the Trump virus and insists on the name China virus, either too stupid or malicious to understand the racism of the term. In a time when more than 169,000 of our fellow citizens have been killed by the virus and the death toll is mounting, the stupid and malicious have to be avoided as much as the coronavirus.

  7. jerry 2020-08-13 10:24

    Canada does not want Americans right now..period. They know that the trump virus is killing thousands here with no end in sight…unless we lock down as the FED has suggested.

    “As the pandemic continues to sweep the US, Canadians are getting more and more concerned about what American visitors could be bringing with them over the border.” https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53742684

    I wonder if we could ask for political asylum in Canada like trump’s ilk did during the Vietnam War…the ones who couldn’t get the bone spur thingy.

  8. Steve 2020-08-13 10:29

    I look forward to each of your’s responses on Cuomo and his leadership in NY regarding Covid. Especially in regards to the death toll there.

  9. Steve 2020-08-13 11:13

    WAPO….

    So let’s look at South Dakota. We’ve had 9815 confirmed cases. 157 have died. 1.6% death rate.

    5.21 million cases in Amerca. 166k died. 3.18% death rate.

    427k cases in New York. 32,384 died. 7.58% death rate….

    Take NY out and that drops the U.S. death rate to 2.79%.

    Spanish Flu had many ranging numbers depending on who you talk to. Comparing it would be intellectually dishonest considering we don’t have the numbers, data and collection available then. So BS flag on that one.

  10. Cory Allen Heidelberger Post author | 2020-08-13 11:57

    Covid-19 is real.

    Deaths from covid-19 are real.

    The ability of masks to slow the spread and save lives is real.

    It takes much less effort to put on a mask and slow the spread and save lives than it does to manufacture excuses for a death rate made worse by Trump’s and Noem’s and others’ resistance to science and good sense.

  11. Anne 2020-08-13 12:04

    O my god! A lead researcher on Covid-19 is intectually dishonest:
    “For anyone who doesn’t understand the magnitude of what we’re living through, this pandemic is comparable in its effect on mortality to what everyone agrees is the previous worst pandemic,” said Jeremy S. Faust, an emergency physician at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston who led the team that conducted the data review.”

  12. Chris S. 2020-08-13 12:07

    Anybody using the term “libtard” should earn an automatic block. Sorry, I have a niece with profound special needs, and maybe I’m extra sensitive to conservative trolls throwing that offensive insult around.

  13. Troy 2020-08-13 12:51

    I agree with Cory Covid-19 is real and so are its deaths.

    What is also real is our rt factor (a statistical estimation of the rate of spread) is spiking as it has a couple of other times during this pandemic with little discernible impact on hospitalizations and deaths.

    While new cases have creeped up from 60 a day in May and are now around 90 a day (probably mostly a result of more testing), our daily deaths have averaged a bit under 1.2 a day since May through today regardless of spikes in cases. At the same time, new hospitalizations have declined from about 8 a day to about 5 a day.

    Keep the eye on the ball: Wash your hands, use hand sanitizer, don’t touch your face, maintain social distance, stay home if your temp spikes or you feel symptoms, use a mask when you can’t social distance especially indoors. And, do all these things with a bit more diligence if you are in the presence of someone who appears to be vulnerable by age or condition.

  14. bearcreekbat 2020-08-13 12:58

    I haven’t seen any argument or contention that Trump created or started the Covid 19 virus, hence Steve’s statement that “Trump virus would mean that he created it or started it,” seems to be nonsense. From everything I have seen the phrase “Trump virus” is a label referencing the sickness and death that has resulted from Trump’s various statements, equivocations, outright lies and inaction as President of the US. The thinking seems to be that if Trump, as the current President and chief policy maker of the USA, had not ignored the danger, lied about the danger, minimized the danger, failed to take any action to try to prevent the spread of the virus, then literally thousands of American lives would have been saved.

    https://www.npr.org/2020/05/21/859991296/u-s-could-have-saved-thousands-of-lives-if-lockdown-started-earlier-study-finds

    And this study was in May, long before the death toll reached over 150,000 Americans!

    As for calling it the “China virus,” it seems fairly obvious that Trump uses that pejorative simply as a means of vilifying China, which has been one of Trump’s go to strategies to spark nationalistic hatred.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/20/politics/donald-trump-china-virus-coronavirus/index.html

  15. mike from iowa 2020-08-13 13:01

    Does Steve agree with pandemic “Dindu Nuffin” Don that the 1917 flu ended WW2 because the soldiers were all sick?

  16. Wayne 2020-08-13 13:09

    Looking at the error bars of that graph make me a little leery, but let’s take it for what it is.

    The two states “beating” South Dakota in the Rt race are Hawaii and Minnesota. I haven’t followed HI, but our eastern neighbor has been much more “proactive” with shut downs, mandatory mask orders, etc. And yet we see they’re worse off than we are in that respect.

    As a nifty indicator, Minnesota has had fewer days with its Rt sub 1.0 (43 days) than South Dakota (55 days). Empirically, South Dakota has fared better through the pandemic to date.

    Minnesota’s mortality rate has also been consistently worse.

    I think that should give us pause. Two very different approaches have yielded similar Rt numbers. Should people be calling for Gov Waltz’s resignation over doing worse than Gov Noem?

    Our governor has been fairly hands-off, leaving it to our counties and cities to determine their course of action (to some extent; they’re not given full liberty to act). That seems appropriate – we have a county which has never had a single case, 11 more counties have no active cases, and another 24 counties have fewer than five active cases. Those counties require quite different precautions from Minnehaha/Lincoln, Pennington, and Brown.

    I think the credit really goes to our communities that have worked to keep hot spots under control and encourage folks to follow CDC guidelines when our Governor will not. Could / Should our governor do more? Absolutely; there’s a lot of soft power that could be used to help bend the curve downward which would have negligible economic impact.

  17. Steve 2020-08-13 13:46

    Funny how no one mentions the data I put out there. Anne comments and says I’m attacking researchers which I’m not. I have looked at organizations like the CDC and the Spanish flu and overwhelmingly all of them have differing statements and guesstimates. We didn’t have the technology or medicine we do now back then. Totally different. Posting a WAPO story is intellectually dishonest when you can look at SO much more.

    Libtard, libtard, libtard. Really only liberals deserve to have the term retarded attached to them.

  18. Richard Schriever 2020-08-13 14:02

    Steve – the “Spanish” flu lasted for 3 years (1918-1920). The biggest killer parts of the 20th century version were the 2nd and 3rd waves. Those were after the initial virus had mutated into a more powerful strain. We are 6 months in to this pandemic. We haven’t even gotten past the first wave yet. It’s estimated that 50-60% of the world population contracted the Spanish flu. World infection rates for COVID are around 5-6% so far. We have a long ways to go before any meaningful comparison can be drawn.

  19. Anne 2020-08-13 14:40

    The WAPO stories so derided above are not fabrications of campaign operatives but reports on research being done by bona fide scientists. Honest people will take their observations and comparative analysis as productive rather than that which comes from a mentality that produces that last sentence in the comment at 13:46.

  20. Eve Fisher 2020-08-13 14:47

    Richard, you’re absolutely correct. COVID-19 has only begun to spread around the world.

    Also, the “Spanish” flu started in Fort Riley, Kansas, and was spread by soldiers through US, Europe, etc. It was called “Spanish” because World War I censors minimized these early reports to protect morale. Newspapers were only free to report the epidemic’s effects in neutral Spain, so everyone called it the Spanish flu.

    BTW, COVID-19 did indeed start in Wuhan, China, and it is true that China tried for a while to hide the spread of the virus; but that’s exactly what President Trump has been trying to do ever since it came to our shores. Every country does it. It doesn’t matter where a virus starts; what matters is what the country’s leadership does about it.

    Meanwhile, South Dakota has 880,000 total population, which means that with 9,897 positive cases, over 1.15% of the population has gotten it. With our low population density, that is a ridiculously high number. (BTW, Sioux Falls is at 2.89%. New York State is at 2.25%. Georgia is 2.13%.) And we haven’t yet seen the Surge from the Sturge. Am I optimistic that things are going to get better, even rosy come the fall? No. Not at all.

  21. leslie 2020-08-13 14:51

    Steve: trump’s term has been a killing spree.

    Say hi to Tim.

  22. mike from iowa 2020-08-13 15:32

    WORLD / COUNTRIES / UNITED STATES
    Last updated: August 13, 2020, 20:24 GMT
    United States
    Coronavirus Cases:
    5,395,453
    Deaths:
    169,848
    Recovered:
    2,821,038
    Projections
    CLOSED CASES
    2,990,886
    Cases which had an outcome:
    2,821,038 (94%)
    Recovered / Discharged

    169,848 (6%)
    Deaths

    This shoots Steve’s death rate all to hell.

  23. mike from iowa 2020-08-13 15:40

    170,000 deaths nationwide as of today is sure a lot of hoaxery going on.

  24. Loren 2020-08-13 17:57

    Well, Jerry, with hospitals now required to send statistic’s to the W.H. now, instead of the CDC, we have to wonder what any of the numbers mean.

  25. grudznick 2020-08-13 18:41

    Mr. bear, I too have a relative with very special needs and am offended by terms such as the one you protest. But this is a blog of many out-of-state name-callers. Could we perhaps suggest a list of names which are acceptable and those which are not, and let all of the bloggers add perhaps 3 of their own to the list? Mr. H, or Mr. Evans who is a computer guru, could put those into a program to replace them with something like “Fuzzy Bunny” each time somebody resorted to name-calling.

    I think you have a wonderful point, and my grand-niece will also thank you.

  26. Jenny 2020-08-13 19:49

    Most of us Out of staters grew up in South Dakota and have every right to comment on Cory’s blog, grudz. In spite of what republicans think, we care about the state we grew up in and are saddened by what we see it has become. A one party state That every year gets more right wing and extreme in its beliefs is not good. Government is supposed to represent everyone.

    Cory’s liberal blog has become a welcome place for us to vent and he has called us out when it gets too wild. If you can’t handle out-of-state progressives and liberals commenting on here you can always go to a more conservative blog.
    Cory, thank you for your enthusiasm and hard work with DFP. We appreciate what you do for SD and always looking out for the little guy.

  27. grudznick 2020-08-13 19:58

    You are a very nice young lady, Ms. Jenny. Thank you for being polite.

  28. leslie 2020-08-13 20:29

    Gee grdz. Called out yesterday as the misogynist you are, and today calling two women nice. Pucker up buttercup

  29. grudznick 2020-08-13 20:43

    What’s that you say? grudznick has been voted the Most Loved and Nicest Conservative with Common Sense on this blog for 5 years running. You should not be so surprised. grudznick is always a hit with the ladies.

  30. Jenny 2020-08-13 20:47

    Cory had a timeout talk with him, Leslie.

  31. Debbo 2020-08-13 20:48

    Covid-19 doesn’t only kill people. It severely and permanently disables many who don’t die.

    This is from Axios AM by Mike Allen:

    “Scientists continue grappling with the confounding range of manifestations of this novel disease, which barely affects some but can also seriously damage the lung, heart, kidney, brain, immune and blood systems.”

    New Zealand was stricken with Covid-19. Their PM Jacinda Ardhern shut down everything immediately. They achieved repeated zero case testing so they were able to open everything back up and return to life as normal, no masks, no distancing, no crowd limits, no dangers. That was their situation for several months, but early this week there were 4 cases. Madam PM shut everything back down. In a couple weeks they’ll be back to normal life again. (Wouldn’t that be wonderful? 😞)

    I don’t expect identical results if Medical Moron had immediately ordered a shutdown in March, but we’d have less than half as many cases, deaths and disabled due to this virus. Our economy would be much more functional and the emotional suffering would all be greatly reduced.

    That’s what the severely mentally ill, magically thinking, heartless cretin in the White House has cost this beautiful nation. “Trump Virus” is fitting.

  32. grudznick 2020-08-13 20:51

    Indeed, you are even prettier today than yesterday, Ms. Jenny.

  33. Jenny 2020-08-13 21:07

    Listen to what Cory said, grudz.
    Step outside and get some fresh air when your urges come on. Just ignore the women if you have to. You can do it.

  34. Neal 2020-08-14 01:21

    Steve said: “So let’s look at South Dakota. We’ve had 9815 confirmed cases. 157 have died. 1.6% death rate.”

    That’s assuming literally no one other than those who have tested positive have contracted it. We know that’s obviously not the case — studies (from Stanford University) have shown that 50-80x more have been infected than tested positive. There are also other reliable studies that have shown a huge percentage of those infected show no symptoms. Clearly there are a lot of people out there who have contracted the virus but never been tested.

    But let’s just say only 2x more have been infected in SD. That’s an inarguably conservative estimate; the actual number is almost certainly higher. That takes the infection fatality rate down to .8. At 3x, still a conservative guess, it goes to .4. Almost all of those fatalities are elderly, or have serious comorbidities, or some combination of the two. The infection fatality rate for people under 20 years old is .00.

    These are facts.

    Here’s the opinion: the hysterical response to coronavirus is wildly, preposterously disproportionate to the actual threat.

  35. Andy 2020-08-14 08:28

    Neal is missing the fact that we’ve been finding a lot of excess deaths outside the normal annual average, this year, as well. Include those in your analysis, Neal, and you’ll find the mortality rate is even higher than what we have now.

    170k dead in months – faster than ANY war – and some people are complaining about “hysterical response”. Good grief.

  36. Richard Schriever 2020-08-14 09:11

    Neal – the only fact in your comment is that there has been speculation as to the “true” infection rate. That speculation, is not based on any testing – BTW – so it is PURELY guess-work. Zero hard data to support it. Not one test. Not one result.

    The fact that “someone” from “Stanford” published that non-scientific, anecdotal speculation/opinion/”study” is an old propaganda trick. You could think of it as “reverse ad hominem”. Salvation by association might be another analogy. It’s used by marketers/advertisers all the time – the well-known and recognized association of a product’s quality with a celebrity, for example.

    Again – NOT SCIENCE. (Just a cleverly disguised opinion).

  37. Troy 2020-08-14 09:43

    Richard, actually it is science that there are many more people who have been infected than positive cases: If it weren’t true:

    1) the virus would have died out as every positive ends up in quarantine.
    2) Why there is the admonition to social distance and wear masks if it weren’t for asymptomatic carriers, most of who have and will recover. And if they weren’t a significant number, the rationale for a mask would be nonsense.
    3) There is a plethora of hard data and it is in the process of being combined statistically to estimate the number of people who have been infected and have recovered without a prior test. They then will begin applying it to various regions using different models to estimate what we are talking about as well as what might be the actual infection rate in regions trending up, trending down, post-surge, and pre-surge. A couple of sources of this data: Random blood draws are being down when one goes to a clinic for any purpose (it is my understanding in order to protect the integrity of the data, you will not be told if you have had it in the past or have not had it. In this case, you only find out if you are currently infected) and if you give blood, they will do a Covid test where in that case you will get the results (infected, recovered, never been infected).

    Just because you don’t know the exact number yet (Neal either) it is foolish to dismiss the speculation as the denial is actually “NOT SCIENCE,” the preliminary data is the range is between 25,000,000 and 100,000,000 Americans have been infected and soon we will have a much lower range.

    BTW, I doubt the number infected is 50+ times more or we’d be seeing declining infections.

  38. Eve Fisher 2020-08-14 09:48

    Neal and Steve – Here’s the deal. My husband of 42 years has heart trouble, an aneurism, bad COPD, and a few other health issues. If he gets COVID-19, it will kill him. That’s a given. So am I being hysterical in wearing masks wherever I go, sometimes gloves as well, refusing to go to long events indoors, and washing everything in order to make sure that I – the primary shopper etc. – don’t bring home COVID-19 to him? I think not. I think I love my husband and am willing to do almost anything to keep him alive and well for at least a few more years. And I think there’s a lot more of us who are doing this to preserve someone else’s life than there are of those who are determined to reopen everything because “almost all of those fatalities are elderly, or have serious comorbidities, or some combination of the two.”

    Oh, and the fatality rate of those under 20 is NOT .00:

    A 17 year old in Lancaster, Texas; a 6-week old infant in Corpus Christi; a 9 year old in Putnam County, Florida.
    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jul/10/john-cornyn/some-covid-19-deaths-have-been-children/
    https://www.foxnews.com/health/florida-youngest-coronavirus-death-identified

    My suggestion is that everyone who feels there is minimal and acceptable risk to the population pick out the ones in their families they think are expendable: 1 child perhaps out of an extended family, a couple of teenagers, and definitely all the elderly that they are willing to throw into the fires of our economic Moloch.

    I will continue to do my best to protect everyone I love. I hope you are as fortunate in the people around you.

  39. grudznick 2020-08-14 10:03

    Thank you, Ms. Jenny. Mr. H beat me about the head and shoulders with some really mean words and told me to straighten up and fly right or he’d see too it that the Conservatives With Common Sense were no longer welcomed at the Campbell Street Cafe the 3rd Sunday in August, so you know my ears perked up. grudznick is all about love and tolerance now.

  40. Jenny 2020-08-14 10:37

    Exactly, Eve – no one wants to be in a hospital with an infection and no one wants see a loved one suffering in a hospital either. On top of it all, we as ‘free’ Americans, are honored to get the undue stress of getting hit with a huge hospital bill when discharged that many of us will make payments on for years or file bankruptcy on. Such blessings we are given for living in the land of the free. :(

    COVID is respiratory in nature, though it has been known to start in the GI system also. Eve has every right to be concerned, especially if her husband suffers from COPD, a chronic respiratory condition . Think about other people for a change, South Dakota.

  41. Jenny 2020-08-14 11:04

    So what qualifies as an infection to you Troy? I agree with Richard. Neal’s ‘Stanford’ study doesn’t make sense. It is using the term ‘infection’ lightly.

  42. jerry 2020-08-14 11:39

    Troy justifies death by trump virus and just an infection, nothing to see here. Troy and the rest of the QANON gang will be able to keep singing from that same choir sheet for another 150,000 plus deaths…as just an infection.

    Also, just 30 to 40 million workers unemployed is okay as long as the corporate executives keep getting their money. What could possibly go wrong.

  43. Troy 2020-08-14 11:45

    Jenny, not sure why you would ask me what is an infection. Medical science defines an infection as “The invasion and multiplication of microorganisms such as bacteria, viruses, and parasites that are not normally present within the body.”

    I see nothing in what Neal said which diminishes an infection from its definition. I also see nothing in what Neal or I said which would cause you to think either we don’t know what an infection is but if you don’t know I’m flattered you’d ask me but it is easy to find on Google.

  44. Jenny 2020-08-14 13:02

    I’m not surprised I would get a reply of sarcasm from Troy, he’s learned it from his hero Trump.
    Inpatient Hospital admission rates from infections are where one generally goes to find real ‘infection’ statistics, but people like Troy and Neal want to downplay COVID.
    Tossing the term infection around lightly makes me uneasy, maybe that’s because I was hospitalized and almost died from an infection a couple years ago.
    Are you trying to say people that are asymptomatic from COVID, Troy and Neal? Don’t say infected then.

    Try to have some compassion Trumpsters. Stop listening to your hero for a change and listen to doctors and scientists.

  45. jerry 2020-08-14 13:15

    The “infection” called the trump virus, ain’t slacking off. I think we will hit that benchmark sooner than Labor Day, but what do Troy and I know.

    “The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has warned that the US death toll from the coronavirus will officially reach 200,000 by Labor Day in early September.

  46. Richard Schriever 2020-08-14 13:21

    Troy – nope – still a cleverly disguised opinion – not science. Actual science is data based. These “studies” don’t have have actual data. They are just guessing. They are proposing hypothesis – not TESTING them. Science requires the TESTING of hypothesis – using data. And as you have pointed out yourself – they are still in the process of gathering some data. Until that data has been analyzed it is just a guess.

  47. Richard Schriever 2020-08-14 13:30

    Troy – do you believe there are any human bodies where-in “…..bacteria, viruses, and parasites …. are not normally present….”?

  48. Troy 2020-08-14 14:13

    All: Please read my first sentence of my first post. I clearly said Covid is real and the associated deaths are real.

    Jerry: There are 30 million people unemployed because we shutdown/locked down/restricted activity. By definition that is a slowing down of the economy. I’m all for opening up and getting people back to work.

    Jenny/Richard: I’m sorry I used a general definition of infection as I thought you could adapt that to the context of Covid. Let me do that now for you: One is infected with Covid-19 if this particular coronavirus has invaded the body (not just present on the outside) and is multiplying inside the body.

    Richard: As we speak, doctors, nurses, epidemiologists, researchers, and public policy people at the CDC are making literally millions of decisions a day on incomplete data, educated guesswork, and hypothesis and testing them by observation in the field overlaid by the available data. Virtually all of the treatments for Covid (based on deaths per hospitalization it appears they have made significant strides since the early hospitalizations) came from developing protocols of treatment on the fly. And, doing so is 100% in the realm of medical science. And thank God it is so, otherwise we’d not have a cure until the disease died out on its own.

    Regarding the reality there are people infected who have not been tested is settled science:

    1) You are being asked to socially distance and wear a mask to protect yourself and others because it is KNOWN there are people in society who are infected but the infection has not been confirmed by a test. If that isn’t science, why do I always hear “follow the science” when there is nobody infected we don’t know about?

    2) Cory started this talking about the rt factor. Do you know why we contact trace? Because every person we identify as positive has a rt factor of virtually zero post being a confirmed case. All people who spread the disease and thus have a rt factor above one do so because they don’t know they are infected. This is really pretty basic science.

  49. Troy 2020-08-14 14:23

    P.S. Richard, read my general definition. It refers to such virus, bacteria, etc. not normally in the body. For instance good bacteria in our stomach is not considered an infection.

  50. Jenny 2020-08-14 15:55

    So You didn’t think we needed to shut down Troy? You don’t believe we would be in a worse place then we are now?

    Although it is A good mathematical Rt method that the two guys have invented, even they have admitted, just like I have said, that COVID stats from input hospital cases are more reliable. Go into the FAQ.
    Please wear masks when out in public, Troy and Neal.

  51. mike from iowa 2020-08-14 16:24

    And the beat goes on…..

    United States
    Coronavirus Cases:
    5,464,844
    Deaths:
    171,285

    Another thousand deaths and more to come. Day is not over.

  52. jerry 2020-08-14 16:35

    But, but the trump virus is just an infection that infects people with the trump virus. It kills and maims along with never really leaving you. What a stalker. Troy and Neal, bless your hearts for trying to carry the blood…er water for your little Tinker Belle GNOem. She may even bless you with some pixie dust, lucky boys.

    State Police might be looking for naming rights for their little unit guarding Fort Tinker Belle. F Troop comes to mind as appropriate. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058800/
    Almost the same kind of situation, with the same results, mayhem.

  53. jerry 2020-08-14 16:40

    The trump virus will now get into full swing. Thanks to Tinker Belle GNOem and her little bro’s (you know who’s). Here we go:

    “State health officials reported exposure events Friday at a bar and grill in Hill City, a bar in Brookings and a concert at the Sioux Empire Fair in Sioux Falls.

    An employee of the Bumpin’ Buffalo Bar and Grill at 245 Main Street in Hill City has tested positive for COVID-19 after working at the business while able to transmit the virus on these dates and times:” Rapid City Journal 8.14.20

    Who could’ve seen this coming? What a mystery this trump virus “infection”.

  54. Jenny 2020-08-14 16:44

    Rt tracing can be unreliable (think of a Sturgis biker having to do it) which is why it is just best to wear a mask to prevent from getting it in the first place. Don’t listen to Kristi Noem.

  55. Jenny 2020-08-14 16:47

    Gov Walz, there’s still time – please order all MN Sturgis bikers to quarantine when they get back from the Wild West.

  56. JON H 2020-08-14 17:37

    I wonder why they called the 1918 flu the Spanish flu? From my understanding it started in Kansas. I guess people didn’t play the blame game back then. Our President and our Governor have failed to even look like they have leadership ability.

  57. jerry 2020-08-14 17:47

    Spain was the only country that wasn’t censored for news. Spain’s king died from the flu and thousands of others as well. As this was the only place reporting, The Kansas Flue turned out to be the Spanish Flu.

    Yes, we started a worldwide epidemic right here in our heartland that killed millions, just like the trump virus is doing.

  58. leslie 2020-08-14 18:46

    “Millions of decisions….Virtually all…came from developing protocols of treatment on the fly”.

    NOT TRUE, Troy.

    1.) Pandemic care and previous ebola, sars and coronavirus disease functions were well understood, systematic and anticipated by well known, qualified authorities. Just not Trump “authorities”. Accordingly…

    2.) Medical staff on the front line and rear areas have been working full speed with ONE HAND tied behind, so Trump can manipulate the pandemic and win an election, for whatever his own incompetent purposes are. Obama’s Pandemic Playbook didn’t fit Jared Kushner’s billionaire wonder boys tragic mistake. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/how-jared-kushners-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air

  59. Richard Schriever 2020-08-15 09:27

    Correct Leslie – the VIRUS’ name is SARS COV-2 (Not covid-19). As such is it the 2nd known member of the generic SARS COV “family”. In addition, none of the applied “on-the-fly” treatments has been exempt from PREVIOUS scientific study as to its known effects and uses for treatment.

    The application of known and tested medicines to treat the SYMPTOMS of a person who has been tested positive infected with a virus that is related to another KNOWN virus is a far different thing to making up numbers about how many people have the disease and calling THAT “science”.

  60. mike from iowa 2020-08-16 14:38

    From KCCI today…..

    DES MOINES, Iowa —
    The Iowa Department of Public Health on Saturday reported another 835 positive coronavirus cases and 9 additional deaths.

    As of 10 a.m. Saturday, IDPH reported 51,648 positive cases, 40,368 recoveries and 973 deaths since the pandemic began. As of 10 a.m. Friday, IDPH had reported 50,813 positive cases and 964 deaths.

    IDPH reported 552,422 Iowans have been tested for COVID-19. There were 6,715 Iowans tested in the previous day for a positivity rate of 7.3%. One of 6 Iowans have been tested and 1 of 61 have tested positive.

    IDPH reported six Iowa counties with a greater than 15% positivity rate over the last 14 days. Humboldt, Webster, Clarke, Lucas, Wright and Osceola counties top the list.

    IDPH reported 261 Iowans hospitalized with the virus, up from 258 the previous day. There are currently 82 patients listed in intensive care, up from 75 the previous day. There are 35 patients on ventilators in the state, up from 28 the previous day. There were 33 patients admitted in the last 24 hours, up from 31 the previous day.

    IDPH reported approximately 3,000 inpatient hospital beds available, with 470 ICU beds and 773 ventilators available.

    There are COVID-19 outbreaks in 29 of Iowa’s long-term care facilities. There are currently 910 positive cases and 542 recoveries within those facilities. There have been 521 deaths in Iowa’s long-term care facilities

  61. jerry 2020-08-16 15:36

    mfi, how are they doing in Cedar Rapids? Don’t hear too much about the hurricane winds that hit that place. How are they sheltering in place when there is no place to shelter?

  62. mike from iowa 2020-08-27 12:47

    Des Moines, IA (KICD)– The Iowa Department of Public Health is reporting 1,477 new cases of COVID-19 in the 24-hours ending at 11 a.m. Thursday, the largest single day increase since the pandemic began, taking the state to 59,496 cases and 1,080 deaths.

    Up, up and away, sooper incompetent drumpfy.

  63. mike from iowa 2020-08-27 15:07

    drumpf body count shooting for the moon….

    United States
    Coronavirus Cases:
    6,032,040
    Deaths:
    184,362

  64. jerry 2020-08-27 15:28

    Wow! Hitting the jackpot here in the Sunshine State of South Dakota…Another proud moment.

    “The state health department reported 343 new cases of COVID-19 on Thursday, marking a record number of cases reported in a single day in South Dakota.

    South Dakota’s active coronavirus cases also climbed to 2,000 Thursday, another record. The state has seen 12,194 total cases with 10,032 recoveries.

    Kim Malsam-Rysdon, state health secretary, said the rise in active cases is just one metric the DOH considers.” Rapid City Journal 8.27.20

    Of course the other metric to be considered is how damn dumb they are, but I digress.

  65. jerry 2020-08-27 15:38

    State universities decline to release total COVID-19 case numbers for their campuses, reads the headline.

    Why would they do that? Money money money, I got to have it O’Jays, take it away..Booyah!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXE_n2q08Yw

  66. leslie 2020-08-27 19:06

    Wow 343 positives in a day! Comment Governor?

  67. grudznick 2020-08-27 19:08

    Ms. leslie, grudznick has watched the news and it seems ok. They said it was a glitch. If not, my advice to you and to those 343 idiots is this: Stay the F at Home.

  68. leslie 2020-08-29 15:09

    anyone else u wanna call an idiot?

    “… it was a glitch. If not, my advice to you and to those 343 idiots is this: Stay the F at Home.”

    Others reliably report 425 positives today yet YOU quibbled about 343 the day before.

    Hard to understand facts and truth when you make sheit up everyday here, eh? Last week 150 was a big deal.

    You loved the Mt Rushmore and Sturgis ect events?

    You gonna retract those statements here too?

    You gonna mansplain CDC recent testing changes or Noem/Trump neutered CDC requirements 4/22 at Greeley, then Smithfield, You Republicans are intent on pandemic AND election distraction by your propaganda. Grdz “has watched the news and it seems ok.” Tell the pandemic truth and you lose. Lie and Democratic voters die.

    https://doh.sd.gov/news/coronavirus.aspx

    Are you the symptom of the GOP or the problem?

  69. leslie 2020-09-02 19:45

    Grzd-u changed the subject from SD’s 425 positives in a day to Trump’s Law and Order distraction, eh?

    20-09-02 at 19:21
    Mr. Jake…most of the looters, thieves, and lawless general shennaniganers? I did not say there were not some registered Republicans in that mess, but MOST of them were not.

    Troll.

  70. grudznick 2020-09-02 20:36

    Ms. leslie, I never went to the Sturgis event, but I did see lots of the motor cyclists all over. Did you not see them? And that was probably very good for the Sturgis town for their taxes. I am sure the towns by Mount Rushmore did well when Mr. Trump flew in, and that is all fine and well too. Generally speaking grudznick does not want out-of-staters flocking to South Dakota. They could bring the looters, thieves, and lawless general shennaniganers with them.

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