My Twitter feed is filled with people outraged by Israel’s ongoing campaign to eradicate from Gaza the Hamas terrorists who seek to eradicate the Jewish nation. Many of my online acquaintances want Israel to cease fire so Gazans can get the humanitarian aid they need.
But Gazans don’t need a cease fire to allow aid to cross the border from Egypt. They could just knock on Hamas’s vast network of tunnels and ask their own government to share the months of food, fuel, and medical supplies it has stockpiled in preparation for its war:
The Palestinian terrorist group Hamas has reportedly built up a months-long stockpile of food, fuel, and medical supplies as humanitarian resources for the Gaza Strip have dwindled, the New York Times reports.
Speaking with Times journalists, all on conditions of anonymity, several Arab and Western officials said Hamas “had enough stocked away to keep fighting for three to four months without resupply.”
“[T]here is substance to Israeli claims of Hamas stockpiling supplies, including desperately needed food and fuel,” the outlet explained. “The stockpiles are typically kept underground, they said, and cautioned that precise details on Hamas’s supplies were difficult to come by” [Ari Blaff, “Hamas Boasts Massive Stockpile of Food and Fuel as Humanitarian Supplies Dwindle in Gaza: Report,” National Review, 2023.10.28].
Gazans today are looting the United Nations relief warehouses. Perhaps they should consider looting their own government’s underground stockpile.
Hanas likely as enough to supply ITSELF (15,000 or so “members”,), but that ids a far cry from enough for the 2.2 MILLION people who live in Gaza. Hamas comprises about 1/2 of 1% of the pop ululation of Gaza.
Propaganda flying from either side in this conflict is not to be believed. Put on your thinking cap.
From my armchair quarterbacking perspective, Hamas needs to surrender, and Israel and Palestine need to sort out their differences once and for all.
RS says “Propaganda flying from either side in this conflict is not to be believed.” That would include all governments.
Remember WMD.
War is lies. Putin is probably waiting for us to engage so he can sneak into Alaska and claim them ‘ethnic Russians’. He owns all the land he desires. It is scary when my ludicrous projections start manifesting. Crazy minds have credibility in this new era run by bonafide schmucks. Lies are believed more than ever, making the present rife for war.
I was in Palestine visiting friends in 2015, during the big slaughter of that year…nurses/doctors, protestors shot down by Israeli ‘troops’…some reportedly got a bonus for taking lives…my friend was stopped by a cop who asked why he was speaking arabic at the Tel Avi airport (supposedly also a recognized language in the land of chosen)…my friend replied in fluent Hebrew: “I am allowed speak my own language in my own country. You speak Hebrew with an accent so I know you’re not from here.” The stunned cop backed off. The point is, the majority of Jews in the land of milk and honey come from someplace else…they all speak Hebrew with accents…it has not been their native tongues for thousands of years. European Jews don’t belong in Palestine. I found the Palestinians good, well-educated people who only want peace. They are insulted daily by their neighbors. The Jews always looked sad and angry, the Palestinians full of life and laughter. They know they can outlast the squatters. USA and all the other Western Powers can take the blame for this mess. Where is the UN? Where are the peace negotiators? All made mute by the war governments of the West. Prove me wrong.
Sadly, Hamas is a terrorist organization.
Sadly, Israel (with the US begrudgingly going-along-to-get along) systemically taunted and badgered the Palestinians for decades. What did they think would / could happen to the human shields they settled on the doorsteps of Gaza? Really? Would you build a house or village within sight of the Korean DMZ?
Sadly, the Israeli-Hamas proxy war is minor affair for US national interests. There is no chance of US troop involvement (sans a hostage rescue).
Sadly, the US national interest remains the Russian occupation and war on Ukraine. If Ukraine falls, the Russians will next invade NATO, via Poland, Romania, and the Baltic Nations. Then the US will either provide US troops, or withdraw from NATO.
Zeihan explains beginning at 21:27 , https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4w0g-apV2o
Sadly, the US media circus is so ate-up with Israel that it is largely unable to report on the real US national interest.
Israel cannot exist with Hamas and Hezbollah on it’s borders. It will be a long war. It will end when the young people of Iran overthrow the Ayotollahs.
Let’s see… I’m an animal with a litter trapped within a concrete cage, it’s raining fire, and I have nowhere to go. Food source becomes available. I asses the risks, and decide to go take the food.
After my human frontal lobe, altruism and empathy have worn thin, and my reptilian inner survival core takes over, I’m sure I would act as any responsible animal would: take the food above ground. The food underground is a riskier proposition, so I’ll save that until absolutely necessary, cuz it might fire back…
My question is: Why were there any supplies in a warehouse? Shouldn’t everything being brought in get dispersed immediately?
Israel has allowed very little food aid and no fuel into Gaza. Hard to distribute when the entire area is under bombardment day and hight. Israel is targeting civilians in their stated effort to eradicate Hamas. Desperate people call for desperate measures. Neither side respects the other. Neither Israel or Hamas truly want peace.
The big and sad elephant in the room of this discussion is the clever conflation of criticism of Israeli government/leaders with anti-semitism. Very similar to criticizing radial Muslim leaders and their terrorists with being anti-Muslim….
The elephant is big and sad, Mr. Aanning. She is very big, and kind of sad.
Kailish, when it rises.
Kailash. Shaka, when the walls fell.
Fuzz, acid and flowers, Lar. That’s the sort of space hippy rock and roll you relate to. grudznick has some memorabia.
Ho Chi Mihn was a baker in Paris when white people carved up the world to pay off the Jewish bankers that bankrolled the Great War.
The UK and France conspired to divide the spoils of the Ottoman Empire so a naval base at Haifa could be the preeminent power in the eastern Mediterranean and Americans pay for it based on liberal democrat Thomas Jefferson’s vision.
That Harry Truman is a war criminal who condemned the planet to eventual destruction is an unheralded truth.
You miserable bastards.
The agony of the Palestinians did not commence on October 7, 2023. Seventy-five years ago, certain individuals from Europe and North America were faced with the task of finding a new home for the Jewish community following the devastating loss of six million lives in concentration camps across Europe. It is important to note that this atrocity was committed by the Nazis, and not by Muslims or Arabs in Palestine. In the present day, we bear witness to 56 years of occupation, 16 years of besiegement in Gaza, and an apartheid-like state that exists – one of the harshest and most unjust systems on Earth. While many of us have educated ourselves about the Holocaust, we are now witnessing a similar tragedy unfolding before our very eyes. Over 3500 innocent children have tragically lost their lives, and numerous families have been completely annihilated.
Israel, despite its support from the Western world, is a questionable investment. Its sustainability is in doubt, as it contradicts the principles outlined in the Torah. This is precisely why many steadfast Jews denounce its actions. The root causes of the conflict can be traced back to Zionist Jews and Zionist Christians, rather than being attributed to resistance movements. Just imagine what you would do if someone forcibly expelled you from your home, subjected your loved ones to rape and murder. It is worth noting that Jews have resided, and continue to live, among Muslims in various regions such as North Africa, Yemen, Iraq, Iran, Syria, and Egypt for thousands of years, peacefully coexisting without any interference. It is crucial for history to be accurately portrayed, as the misinterpretation of events could potentially lead to the decline of America and Western civilization, reminiscent of the rapid downfall experienced by past empires.
https://ifamericansknew.org/
The US has and is spinning away its international capitol with its long, undeterred support of everything Israel. As another above wrote criticizing the Israeli government is not anti-Jew or antisemitism.
The only justifiable way forward is the the US to impose a 2-party state solution on the Israelis and Palestinians.
Sometimes the only way forward is making both fighting sides hate you. Give them a common enemy, even if its only a political enemy.
Hamas surprise-attacked Israel from Gaza killing 1,400 October 7. 5,000 wounded and 220 hostages. Putin and Iran may have supported the attacks. Israel LEVELS Gaza (much like 9/11) in continuing response, largely with USA weapons and technology. 8,000 Palestinians killed, 21,000 wounded. Hamas is embedded in Gaza. Israeli civilian settlers are provided w/ military weapons to evict Palestinians. Both populations of civilians are terrorized by settler occupation and/or attacks. Government policy is to completely destroy Hamas. Palestinians are “hostage” to occupiers.
One of the final battles in hundreds of years of war against Native American Indians by settlers and their military, was the Greasy Grass fight in eastern Montana, June 25, 26, 1876. The victors were imprisoned, and confined to reservations, buffalo became extinct, and Indian children were removed to boarding “schools”; and Settlers today name their rodeo the Days of ‘76. Custer and Deadwood/Lead, largely settler/soldier/miner occupied, are on 1868 Treaty Indian land.
Democrats have largely attempted to broker peace in Israel and occupied Palestine. The UN has resolved to seek immediate humanitarian truce. Trump had brashly declared Jerusalem capitol of Israel in 2019 despite Palestine’s understanding of the two-state solution including east Jerusalem as Palestine’s capitol. Hamas declared an intafada.
Gen. Harney continued his brand of terrorism as early as 1855 at Blue Water Creek NE taking as many hostages, primarily massacre survivor women, children and elders, and marched them to Ft Laramie WY (and earlier still in his fights w/ Florida Seminoles).
That’s why we renamed Black Elk Peak for the undeserved “honor” of Harney’s terrorism. Trump “honored” right wing terrorist Limbaugh of the right wing air waves who is primarily responsible for brain washing ultra-conservative grdz’s and the like into hating their neighbors’ differences all across the globe and cringe at the words diversity, BLM and their new pet-term, woke!
Decades will follow undoing the fake bullsheit Trump, Murdoch, Fox, Limbaugh, Gingrich, Reagan, little Bush, Goldwater, Boehner, McDonald, and their groomed little Thune-types, etc. like MTG, Bobblehead Bobert, McCarthy, Gaetz, Graham, Abbot, DeSantis, Noem, the new House speaker Johnson, our Johnson, and Putin, and of course the NRA trojan horse, they have propagandized. The Republicans certainly have the messeging skill to manipulate voting, and nominate and elect incompetents into powerful leadership positions in order to cling to their false political, unethical ideology. Gee whiz.
Spill on Aisle Four! Millions and Billions of tax dollars politically and unnecessarily frittered away. part of our inflation driver no doubt :(
What has changed across the world? Indians, Jews, Palestinians? Genocide. Thanks Republicans. Your ideology has deadly consequences.
Good comments, people!
Graphic pro-Israel ads showing up in chidren’s games.
https://www.rawstory.com/ray-holmberg-2666099747/?cx_testId=6&cx_testVariant=cx_undefined&cx_artPos=1&cx_experienceId=EXC93HV4HK4I#cxrecs_s
Graphic pro-Israel ads showing up in children’s games.
This is the link for above headline… https://tinyurl.com/rzbsdcyr
My bad.
Who’s the what?
israel bombs refugee camp in Gaza. Not likely the first time.Then they whine about terrorism against Israel.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/israel-latest-military-strikes-back-044842363.html
Mohamed Sharif’s comment is thoughtful. The Israeli government had generations to ‘pay if forward’ to establish a Palestinian state. Crickets. Crickets and taunting. Crickets and baiting.
Sadly the Hamas raid was tragic.
Sadly, yet again Israel reacts disproportionately. What is enough? An 8 to 1 exchange rate? A 10 to 1 exchange rate? A 20 to 1 exchange rate? That taunting, followed by the drama of real and exaggerated grief is being called out – it is exactly why the world lost patience with blind support of the Israeli government wanes. The Israeli government acts as if it learned NOTHING from centuries of hateful prejudice, and lessons of how to treat ones neighbors. The Israeli government is frozen in its WWII, post WWII, and 1950s mindset and must progress or become irrelevant.
Read Howard Fast’s, The Jews, to learn more of this outstanding and tragedy-laden ethnicity. But also consult Peter Zeihan’s latest showing the irrelevance of Gaza to US vital national interests.
None other than George Will nailed taking on the republican self-defeatist isolationism: paywall – https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/01/vance-republican-isolationism-ukraine-aid/
“Sen. Robert Taft (1889-1953), son of a president, did not consider himself an isolationist. But early in 1940, shortly before Hitler’s blitzkrieg to Paris and the English Channel, Taft said, “It would be a great mistake for us to participate in the European war. I do not believe we could materially affect the outcome.” He lost the 1940 Republican presidential nomination to Wendell Willkie, who had been a registered Republican for less than a year and who said he would vote to reelect President Franklin D. Roosevelt rather than a Republican opposed to aid for Britain and France.
Taft greatly, if inadvertently, contributed to the nation’s security by voting against the NATO treaty. The Soviet Union, he said, did not want war, but NATO might provoke it to war. Besides, U.S. possession of the atomic bomb would keep the peace. On July 21, 1949, after the communist coup in Czechoslovakia and the Berlin blockade, the Senate approved NATO membership 83-13. Taft’s opposition, combined with his quest for the Republicans’ 1952 nomination, helped provoke Dwight D. Eisenhower, supreme commander of NATO (1951-1952), into entering the race. This brought the Republican Party into the bipartisan, internationalist foreign policy that won the Cold War.”
“The cure for 1930s isolationism was Pearl Harbor. Will the cure for today’s isolationism be as sudden and surprising? The cold-eyed men in Moscow and Beijing must be as delighted as they are astounded by the spectacle of U.S. populists cultivating war weariness in a nation that is shedding no blood and is spending a pittance of its wealth.
Populists call the war in Ukraine a “forever war.” It is 20 months old. Twenty months into World War II in Europe — May 1941 — Hitler was triumphant from Norway to North Africa, and Victory in Europe Day was four years distant. World War II was not forever; it was worth winning.
In 1936, Winston Churchill warned a complacent British Parliament that “the era of procrastination … is coming to its close. … We are entering a period of consequences.” Vance — he once called Trump “cultural heroin”; now, he says never mind, Trump is a seer — is a consequence of Trump. The consequences of Vance and his ilk might be much larger than they are, and even more dreadful.”
The Israeli government is hell-bent on creating another generation of terrorists. Bombing a refuge camp?! The Israeli government is wildly succeeding. Israel wil neighter eliminate Hamas or establish peace.
There is a better way.
” To defeat terrorist groups like Hamas, it is important to separate the terrorists from the local population from which they emerge. Otherwise, the current generation of terrorists can be killed, only to be replaced by a new, larger generation of terrorists in the future. (This is described by experts as “counterinsurgency mathematics.” )
Although the principle — of separating the terror group from the broader population — is simple, it is incredibly difficult to achieve in practice.
This is why Israel and the United States have waged major military operations that killed large numbers of existing terrorists in the near term — but ultimately led to the rise of many more terrorists, often in a matter of months.”
So, what does work?
To defeat terrorist groups, it is crucial to engage in long campaigns of selective pressure, over years, not simply a month (or two, or three) of heavy ground operations, and to combine military operations with political solutions from early on.
Indeed, the very effort to finish off the terrorists in just a month or two militarily with little idea of the political outcome — as Israel appears to be doing now — is what ends up producing more terrorists than it kills.
The only way to create lasting damage to terrorists is to combine, typically in a long campaign of years, sustained selective attacks against identified terrorists with political operations that drive wedges between the terrorists and the local populations from which they come.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/01/opinions/israel-flawed-strategy-defeating-hamas-pape/index.html
UN relief accuses Israel of bombing UN schools harboring civilians. Netanbooboo ignores Biden’s call for ceasefire..
https://www.cnn.com/2023/11/02/middleeast/israel-gaza-hamas-war-jabalya-camp-strike-intl-hnk/index.html
Israel lies like the “crite”.Israel is slaughtering Palestinians in an effort to depopulate Gaza, not just to eliminate Hamas.
https://www.thenation.com/article/world/hunt-hamas-narrative-gaza-israel-palestine/