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Zinke and Noem Cheer Trump Order to Cut Pay for Outfitters’ Workers

Trumpist Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke dropped by the Badlands and an old Minuteman missile silo yesterday with Rep. Kristi Noem to tout Interior’s “good neighbor policy.” Too bad he couldn’t also support a “good employer policy”; yesterday Trump reversed a 2014 executive order by President Barack Obama that guaranteed better pay for workers on federal lands:

Trump’s executive order, which takes effect immediately, was unveiled just ahead of the Memorial Day weekend, when summer tourists begin descending on national parks and other lands in large numbers. It also comes at the request of outfitters, who say paying a higher wage would limit the number of employees they can hire, while also raising costs.

In 2014, President Barack Obama had required federal contractors to pay at least a $10.10 hourly wage, an order that was later extended to private businesses who hold federal permits for taking customers onto public lands. Trump’s action vacates the latter provision [Thomas Burr, “Trump Exempts Public-Lands Outfitters and Guides from Obama-Era Order to Pay Their Workers Higher Wages,” Salt Lake Tribune, 2018.05.25].

Zinke and Noem cheered this anti-Obama, anti-worker decision:

Zinke says Trump’s order “will have a positive effect on rural economies and American families.”

Noem, a Republican who is running for governor, says the order also will “help expand the kinds of experiences people can have in South Dakota” [“Zinke, Noem Announce Trump Rollback for Outfitters, Guides,” AP via Watertown Public Opinion, 2018.05.25].

We hear here more Novstrumpian Newspeak, that somehow paying workers less is good for workers. The employers in question make their living off the good graces of the taxpayers and the public lands that we open to their profiteering; they should pay wages reflecting their gratitude for that privilege as well as for the labor their workers provide.

83 Comments

  1. mike fom iowa

    How many expanded experiences do people have when stoopid wingnuts force government shutdowns? Not many is my best guess. Probably many fewer than when the places stay open.

  2. mike fom iowa

    How is it Zinke still has a job? If Noem did her job as congressweasel and held him to any accountable standards….aw I am just dreaming about that.

  3. leslie

    Trump’s animal herder Zinke from Whitefish, perhaps THE hornets nest of SUPREMACISM/MILITIA, follows Trump’s aping derogatory style of Right Stuff Daily Show’s Mike Enoch/Richard Spencer. Newyorker @26, 10.16.17. Same GOP pattern of DOI Sec Watts & now DARTH INSIDEOUS EPA Pruitt. Animals. Deplorable. “Fine People”, trump’s coined phrase, in the GOP tradirion of Nunes Gowdy Mcconnell Ryan ect

  4. OldSarg

    You’re kidding right? You really “think” that removing the federal wage level for contractors working on parks, military bases, in federal buildings isn’t a good thing? Do you have any idea how much this was costing the American tax payer? Every contract, whether you were mowing grass or building a building had the cost increased because of this idiocy.

    I know most of you don’t know this but before this law went into effect the USFS, Dept of Ag and dozens of other government agencies, Reservations and even the military had thousands of jobs for the disabled and summer job programs for the disadvantaged youth of our country. All of that had to go away because of the stupid minimum federal wage requirements. Those programs were just cancelled. The disabled were not hired back. Minority kids on the reservations were left to walk the streets, exposed to drugs, alcohol and crime. They lost a chance to develop life skills. Lost money they used to further their educations. They lost the opportunity to explore careers and gain experience. The reservations in South Dakota alone lost more than 1300 summer jobs.

    Think again before you simply trash the changes Trump is making. In every case he has brought back jobs in the US, put more money in the people’s pockets and gave more Americans A CHANCE!

  5. leslie

    (.(.^

  6. Loren

    Think how many workers the outfitters would hire if they worked for free. Tourism would boom. Unemployment would go to zero. Same Republican thinking that says we can pay for everything with another pay cut. Doh!

  7. mike fom iowa

    In the midst of highly publicized steps to dismantle insurance coverage for 32 million people and defund women’s healthcare facilities, Republican lawmakers have quietly laid the foundation to give away Americans’ birthright: 640m acres of national land. In a single line of changes to the rules for the House of Representatives, Republicans have overwritten the value of federal lands, easing the path to disposing of federal property even if doing so loses money for the government and provides no demonstrable compensation to American citizens.

    OldStoner, your last paragraph is goofier than you are. Drumpf has not repatriated a single one of his overseas companies or jobs. Quit sucking up to the pathological lying orange mistake.

    At stake are areas managed by the Bureau of Land Management (BLM), National Forests and Federal Wildlife Refuges, which contribute to an estimated $646bn each year in economic stimulus from recreation on public lands and 6.1m jobs. Transferring these lands to the states, critics fear, could decimate those numbers by eliminating mixed-use requirements, limiting public access and turning over large portions for energy or property development.
    Repealing Obamacare would leave 32m without health coverage, analysis finds
    Read more

    In addition to economic stimulus from outdoor activities, federal land creates revenue through oil and gas production, logging and other industrial uses. According to the BLM, in 2016, it made $2bn in royalty revenue from federal leases. The Outdoor Industry Association estimates federal tax revenue from the recreation economy at almost $40bn.

    From 2017

  8. OldSarg

    mike from idiocy I won’t respond to you because we are worried about you. Have a good day. Hope you are doing well.

  9. Roger Cornelius

    There is no reason to worry about mfi.
    Why does Trump enjoy hurting people that only want a job and a not be threatened with cuts?
    Trump has requested and congress will go along with a $15 billion cut to his bloated budget. The only problem with his proposed cuts to CHIP that amount to $7 Billion. Trump continues to wage a war on children by denying them healthcare.
    Trump dupes his supporters by convincing them his war on working people and children is good for them.
    Friday he attacked federal employees and unions by making it easier to fire them.
    There is no end to his vindictive and madness.

  10. Darin Larson

    OldSarg is on to something here. If you reduce the wages of the workers to $5 an hour, the employers can afford to hire twice as many employees as they would at the $10 minimum wage. Then the employees that are only making $5 an hour could work twice as many hours to make up for their low wages. Less cost for the employer per hour, more work for the employees, and the costs that are passed on to the public don’t go up. It’s win, win, win!

    And there will be plenty of jobs and we will have less of a labor shortage as workers take on 2-3 jobs each. If we remove all economic safety nets and public welfare systems and let people sink or swim on their own, we can reduce taxes on the more fortunate and well-to-do, so they can invest in more low wage job creation. I’m sure if we take healthcare away from workers, the employers can afford to hire even more people. If we do away with environmental regulations and compliance, companies can afford to hire even more people. We could do away with workers comp and workplace protections and bar lawsuits against corporations so that companies can afford to hire even more people. If we reduce taxes on corporations and shift more of the burden of taxation to people, corporations will be able to hire even more of those low wage workers. Pretty soon we will be a country teeming with low-wage jobs, environmental disasters, exploited workers in bad health and a downwardly mobile middle class. At the other end of the income spectrum, the rich can rest easy knowing that they will not be called upon to meet any obligations for the greater good and knowing that the rising sea levels will lift their yachts while federal bailouts pay for the relocation of their beach-houses swept away by the effects of climate change. I can see the Trumpian Utopia in my mind’s eye now!

  11. mike fom iowa

    OldSnohomish is full of it. Just like his cousin Drumpfdummy.

  12. mike fom iowa

    Rule of thumbs for Dummies- when wingnuts claim they want to cut costs it is code for maximum profits at worker expense. More favors for the koch bros.

  13. mike fom iowa

    reflecting their gratitude for that privilege as well as for the labor their workers provide.

    Gratitude is for losers and Libs. Ask Chuck and Dave.

  14. OldSarg

    Everyone, please leave mike from iowa alone! It is unfair to make these attacks against him when he has been undergoing so much. Please be more considerate of him. This is not the time to say mean things or question him. He is in no condition to face that kind of stress.

  15. Roger Cornelius

    There is no reason to be concerned about mike from iowa.
    What we need to be concerned about is the mental instability of Trump and those that believe his lies.

  16. OldSarg

    Lies like: Jobs and the economy

    Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and repealing the Obamacare mandate.
    Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
    Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
    Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
    A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
    A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
    A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
    Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.
    Killing job-stifling regulations

    Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.
    Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.
    Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the threat of environmental regulations.
    Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals.
    Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly targeted the coal industry.
    Fair trade

    Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
    Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S.
    Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants.
    Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
    Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.
    Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.
    Boosting U.S. energy dominance

    The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.
    Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.
    Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL Pipeline snubbed by Obama.
    Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean Power Plan.
    EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.
    Protecting the U.S. homeland

    Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end “chain migration,” which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members.
    Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.
    Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.
    Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.
    Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.
    Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.
    Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.
    Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.
    Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars.
    Added some 100 new immigration judges.
    Protecting communities

    Justice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops.
    Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge 4,000 MS-13 members.
    Homeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent one-year increase.
    Signed three executive orders aimed at cracking down on international criminal organizations.
    Attorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.
    Accountability

    Trump has nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
    Ordered ethical standards including a lobbying ban.
    Called for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch.
    Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government.
    Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending.
    Combatting opioids

    First, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency on opioids.
    His Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent.
    The Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new five-point strategy to fight the crisis.
    Justice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug class under the Controlled Substances Act.
    Justice started a fraud crackdown, arresting more than 400.
    The administration added $500 million to fight the crisis.
    On National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency collected 456 tons.
    Protecting life

    In his first week, Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for abortions.
    Worked with Congress on a bill overturning an Obama regulation that blocked states from defunding abortion providers.
    Published guidance to block Obamacare money from supporting abortion.
    Helping veterans

    Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers.
    Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.
    Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to provide support.
    Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.
    Created a VA hotline.
    Had the VA launch an online “Access and Quality Tool,” providing veterans with a way to access wait time and quality of care data.
    With VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth technology.
    Promoting peace through strength

    Directed the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national strategy and nuclear posture review.
    Worked to increase defense spending.
    Empowered military leaders to “seize the initiative and win,” reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission.
    Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space war strategies.
    Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.
    Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw as a threat to borders.
    Imposed a travel ban on nations that lack border and anti-terrorism security.
    Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory.
    Pushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its development of nuclear weapons.
    Announced a new Afghanistan strategy that strengthens support for U.S. forces at war with terrorism.
    NATO increased support for the war in Afghanistan.
    Approved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the country’s influence in the region.
    Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical weapons attack.
    Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used.
    Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela. Jobs and the economy

    Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and repealing the Obamacare mandate.
    Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
    Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
    Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
    A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
    A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
    A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
    Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.
    Killing job-stifling regulations

    Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.
    Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.
    Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the threat of environmental regulations.
    Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals.
    Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly targeted the coal industry.
    Fair trade

    Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
    Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S.
    Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants.
    Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
    Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.
    Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.
    Boosting U.S. energy dominance

    The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.
    Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.
    Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL Pipeline snubbed by Obama.
    Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean Power Plan.
    EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.
    Protecting the U.S. homeland

    Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end “chain migration,” which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members.
    Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.
    Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.
    Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.
    Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.
    Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.
    Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.
    Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.
    Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars.
    Added some 100 new immigration judges.
    Protecting communities

    Justice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops.
    Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge 4,000 MS-13 members.
    Homeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent one-year increase.
    Signed three executive orders aimed at cracking down on international criminal organizations.
    Attorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.
    Accountability

    Trump has nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
    Ordered ethical standards including a lobbying ban.
    Called for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch.
    Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government.
    Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending.
    Combatting opioids

    First, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency on opioids.
    His Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent.
    The Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new five-point strategy to fight the crisis.
    Justice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug class under the Controlled Substances Act.
    Justice started a fraud crackdown, arresting more than 400.
    The administration added $500 million to fight the crisis.
    On National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency collected 456 tons.
    Protecting life

    In his first week, Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for abortions.
    Worked with Congress on a bill overturning an Obama regulation that blocked states from defunding abortion providers.
    Published guidance to block Obamacare money from supporting abortion.
    Helping veterans

    Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers.
    Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.
    Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to provide support.
    Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.
    Created a VA hotline.
    Had the VA launch an online “Access and Quality Tool,” providing veterans with a way to access wait time and quality of care data.
    With VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth technology.
    Promoting peace through strength

    Directed the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national strategy and nuclear posture review.
    Worked to increase defense spending.
    Empowered military leaders to “seize the initiative and win,” reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission.
    Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space war strategies.
    Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.
    Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw as a threat to borders.
    Imposed a travel ban on nations that lack border and anti-terrorism security.
    Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory.
    Pushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its development of nuclear weapons.
    Announced a new Afghanistan strategy that strengthens support for U.S. forces at war with terrorism.
    NATO increased support for the war in Afghanistan.
    Approved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the country’s influence in the region.
    Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical weapons attack.
    Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used.
    Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela. Jobs and the economy

    Passage of the tax reform bill providing $5.5 billion in cuts and repealing the Obamacare mandate.
    Increase of the GDP above 3 percent.
    Creation of 1.7 million new jobs, cutting unemployment to 4.1 percent.
    Saw the Dow Jones reach record highs.
    A rebound in economic confidence to a 17-year high.
    A new executive order to boost apprenticeships.
    A move to boost computer sciences in Education Department programs.
    Prioritizing women-owned businesses for some $500 million in SBA loans.
    Killing job-stifling regulations

    Signed an Executive Order demanding that two regulations be killed for every new one creates. He beat that big and cut 16 rules and regulations for every one created, saving $8.1 billion.
    Signed 15 congressional regulatory cuts.
    Withdrew from the Obama-era Paris Climate Agreement, ending the threat of environmental regulations.
    Signed an Executive Order cutting the time for infrastructure permit approvals.
    Eliminated an Obama rule on streams that Trump felt unfairly targeted the coal industry.
    Fair trade

    Made good on his campaign promise to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership.
    Opened up the North American Free Trade Agreement for talks to better the deal for the U.S.
    Worked to bring companies back to the U.S., and companies like Toyota, Mazda, Broadcom Limited, and Foxconn announced plans to open U.S. plants.
    Worked to promote the sale of U.S products abroad.
    Made enforcement of U.S. trade laws, especially those that involve national security, a priority.
    Ended Obama’s deal with Cuba.
    Boosting U.S. energy dominance

    The Department of Interior, which has led the way in cutting regulations, opened plans to lease 77 million acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil and gas drilling.
    Trump traveled the world to promote the sale and use of U.S. energy.
    Expanded energy infrastructure projects like the Keystone XL Pipeline snubbed by Obama.
    Ordered the Environmental Protection Agency to kill Obama’s Clean Power Plan.
    EPA is reconsidering Obama rules on methane emissions.
    Protecting the U.S. homeland

    Laid out new principles for reforming immigration and announced plan to end “chain migration,” which lets one legal immigrant to bring in dozens of family members.
    Made progress to build the border wall with Mexico.
    Ended the Obama-era “catch and release” of illegal immigrants.
    Boosted the arrests of illegals inside the U.S.
    Doubled the number of counties participating with Immigration and Customs Enforcement charged with deporting illegals.
    Removed 36 percent more criminal gang members than in fiscal 2016.
    Started the end of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrival program.
    Ditto for other amnesty programs like Deferred Action for Parents of Americans.
    Cracking down on some 300 sanctuary cities that defy ICE but still get federal dollars.
    Added some 100 new immigration judges.
    Protecting communities

    Justice announced grants of $98 million to fund 802 new cops.
    Justice worked with Central American nations to arrest and charge 4,000 MS-13 members.
    Homeland rounded up nearly 800 MS-13 members, an 83 percent one-year increase.
    Signed three executive orders aimed at cracking down on international criminal organizations.
    Attorney General Jeff Sessions created new National Public Safety Partnership, a cooperative initiative with cities to reduce violent crimes.
    Accountability

    Trump has nominated 73 federal judges and won his nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court.
    Ordered ethical standards including a lobbying ban.
    Called for a comprehensive plan to reorganize the executive branch.
    Ordered an overhaul to modernize the digital government.
    Called for a full audit of the Pentagon and its spending.
    Combatting opioids

    First, the president declared a Nationwide Public Health Emergency on opioids.
    His Council of Economic Advisors played a role in determining that overdoses are underreported by as much as 24 percent.
    The Department of Health and Human Services laid out a new five-point strategy to fight the crisis.
    Justice announced it was scheduling fentanyl substances as a drug class under the Controlled Substances Act.
    Justice started a fraud crackdown, arresting more than 400.
    The administration added $500 million to fight the crisis.
    On National Drug Take Back Day, the Drug Enforcement Agency collected 456 tons.

    Protecting life: In his first week, Trump reinstated and expanded the Mexico City Policy that blocks some $9 billion in foreign aid being used for abortions.
    Worked with Congress on a bill overturning an Obama regulation that blocked states from defunding abortion providers.
    Published guidance to block Obamacare money from supporting abortion.
    Helping veterans

    Signed the Veterans Accountability and Whistleblower Protection Act to allow senior officials in the Department of Veterans Affairs to fire failing employees and establish safeguards to protect whistleblowers.
    Signed the Veterans Appeals Improvement and Modernization Act.
    Signed the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Assistance Act, to provide support.
    Signed the VA Choice and Quality Employment Act of 2017 to authorize $2.1 billion in additional funds for the Veterans Choice Program.
    Created a VA hotline.
    Had the VA launch an online “Access and Quality Tool,” providing veterans with a way to access wait time and quality of care data.
    With VA Secretary Dr. David Shulkin, announced three initiatives to expand access to healthcare for veterans using telehealth technology.
    Promoting peace through strength

    Directed the rebuilding of the military and ordered a new national strategy and nuclear posture review.
    Worked to increase defense spending.
    Empowered military leaders to “seize the initiative and win,” reducing the need for a White House sign off on every mission.
    Directed the revival of the National Space Council to develop space war strategies.
    Elevated U.S. Cyber Command into a major warfighting command.
    Withdrew from the U.N. Global Compact on Migration, which Trump saw as a threat to borders.
    Imposed a travel ban on nations that lack border and anti-terrorism security.
    Saw ISIS lose virtually all of its territory.
    Pushed for strong action against global outlaw North Korea and its development of nuclear weapons.
    Announced a new Afghanistan strategy that strengthens support for U.S. forces at war with terrorism.
    NATO increased support for the war in Afghanistan.
    Approved a new Iran strategy plan focused on neutralizing the country’s influence in the region.
    Ordered missile strikes against a Syrian airbase used in a chemical weapons attack.
    Prevented subsequent chemical attacks by announcing a plan to detect them better and warned of future strikes if they were used.
    Ordered new sanctions on the dictatorship in Venezuela. Restoring confidence in and respect for America

    Trump won the release of Americans held abroad, often using his personal relationships with world leaders.
    Made good on a campaign promise to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
    Conducted a historic 12-day trip through Asia, winning new cooperative deals. On the trip, he attended three regional summits to promote American interests.
    He traveled to the Middle East and Europe to build new relationships with leaders.
    Traveled to Poland and on to Germany for the G-20 meeting where he pushed again for funding of women entrepreneurs.

    Pretty much the only thing he hasn’t done is shut the mouths of the ignorant.

  17. OldSarg

    I have to leave and go downtown for a libration. Have a nice evening crying about WINNING!!!!

  18. Matt

    Sarge you need a cool one after cuttin’ and pastin’ 2x-3x the same “facts” from Fox and/or other reliable sources

  19. Roger Cornelius

    Sounds like OldSarge already had plenty of libations.
    Anyone willing to count the number of times OldSarge repeated himself in that phony diatribe?

  20. Debbo

    It’s too bad length of comment doesn’t correlate positively to value of comment.

  21. Roger Cornelius

    OldSarge
    If you want to have any credibility you need to cite your sources for information, you haven’t done that and therefore you have no credibility

  22. More for less. Pretty soon Everything for nothing.

  23. jerry

    Soon, there will be an influx of unemployed workers needing to find something to do (sooner than many of us think). Guaranteed income as a way to survive is okay, but more is needed, so being an outfitter with the guaranteed income plus tips, could put people to work showing stuff to other people who are also getting the guaranteed income that came in automated cars. Perpetual motion while machines do all the work. Sounds like fun, no? That will give us plenty of time for war with Oceania, we have always been at war with Oceania…
    Oh, and one more important thing here as well. Healthcare. With these lower wages, employees would qualify for ACA/Obamacare to get a big subsidy that would shift even more of a burden on those that do not qualify for a subsidy. All is well in NOem land…what a dud.

    “The effects of AI technology on society cannot be measured purely based on productivity. Modern civilization needs employment — not simply for our livelihoods, but for our emotional wellbeing. If AI increases to the point that a significant portion of workers are suddenly unemployed, this research suggests this could have a profound impact on our social well-being — even with the guaranteed minimum income that is being proposed by leading economists as a way to soften the effects of an increasingly jobless society.” https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/will-robots-take-your-job-humans-ignore-coming-ai-revolution-ncna845366

  24. mike fom iowa

    Hope you don’t choke on yer lie-bation, OldStinker. Next you will need a lie-cation.

  25. OldSarg

    Nope, I’m back. I had fun. It was a lovely evening. Sat on the top deck of Que Pasa drinking margaritas. Don’t worry about me life. I hope you are doing well today. You are in my daily prayers.

  26. Darin and Loren both point out the specious reasoning of Trump’s pay cut for outfitters’ workers on federal land. Cut pay to nothing, and we’d hire infinite workers! Cut pay in half, and we’d double workers!

    Ha. More likely we’d see just as many workers but more profit for the owners. Trump’s order thus serves only two purposes: scratch the constant itch caused by his allergy to having had a black man in charge for eight years, and help the people at the top get richer by exploiting workers.

  27. OS, Trump can’t shut the mouths of the ignorant, That would render the current White House silent.

  28. OS tries to spread the field, but let’s focus on the impact of higher wages. Retailers like Target and Walmart have set higher minimum wages than what President Obama’s 2014 order set for private contractors’s workers on federal lands. We’re not talking about an inordinately harsh pay level. If we want economi growth, we need to increase demand, and raising wages increases demand:

    To put it simply, when consumers have more to spend, they buy more sophisticated things. That’s good not just for consumers and producers, but for the overall economy, because making more sophisticated, higher-value things makes everyone involve more productive, and therefore helps increase overall standards of living.

    …Companies play a key role in promoting growth through investment and innovation as well as supporting their workforce through training programs. Yet companies may also want to consider the words of Ford when he said: “The owner, the employees, and the buying public are all one and the same, and unless an industry can so manage itself as to keep wages high and prices low it destroys itself, for otherwise it limits the number of its customers. One’s own employees ought to be one’s own best customers.” While this is certainly not true for individual companies, it is true for the broader economy, and we might be at a rare point where the representatives of employees and employers alike share a common interest in healthy wage growth [James Manyika, Jaana Remes, and Jan Mischke, “The U.S. Economy Is Suffering from Low Demand. Higher Wages Would Help,” Harvard Business Review, 2018.02.22].

    Besides, cries to hire more people instead of raising wages are horsehockey when we’re dealing with slower population growth and full employment. The able workers this plan would supposedly recruit are already occupied elsewhere and already buying the same cheap stuff at the same crap wages that Trump is allowing outfitters to go back to paying. Trump’s plan thus promises no net economic gain and runs counter to his own professed economic goals, further demonstrating the impulsive incoherence of Trump “policy”.

  29. jerry

    Authoritarians like Hitler did not understand business any more than trump does, but an anti-Semitic manufacturing titan did understand business and how to literally drive it. “January 1914 was a frigid month in Detroit — much like January 2014 has been, but nonetheless thousands lined up in the bitter cold outside to take Henry Ford up on an extraordinary offer: $5 a day, for eight hours of work in a bustling factory.” https://www.npr.org/2014/01/27/267145552/the-middle-class-took-off-100-years-ago-thanks-to-henry-ford

    Exactly how the middle class took off. NOem and Stinky Zinke, want to go back to the $5.00 days of shoveling horse crap off the main streets of commerce.

  30. Loren

    I think the old Marine saying is, “We have been doing so much for so long with so little that pretty soon we will be expected to do EVERYTHING with NOTHING.” Sort of sounds like what they are trying to do, here. Ooo Rah! :-)

  31. OldSarg

    Cory “slower population growth and full employment” is the recipe for higher wages. Let the market decide not the government. Oh, since we are on the topic of government did you see Trumps latest success?

    Sen. Orrin Hatch: “Mr. President I can’t tell you how much I appreciate you. As you know I was the one guy who didn’t support you 100%. But I do now. I think you’re doing a terrific job. This shows why, basically you. You actually, these folks did a great job. I was really thrilled the way Bob handled himself. Caleb and others did such a good job. We have good people working with us. And the folks in this delegation all very sincerely wanted to get Josh out of it. And the parents are just as good of people as I’ve ever met in my life. And you better really live a good life… But this wouldn’t have happened without you. We just want you to know that when you look back over your tenure and the presidency, this is just one of the many great things you’re doing. But it’s really a great thing. And I know that we can rely on you and count on you and talk to you and meet with you. These are all very important things. We love you boy and just want to support you any way we can.”

    Like I was now another Trump hater sees the light.

  32. Roger Cornelius

    Orrin Hatch is as senile as Trump.

  33. mike fom iowa

    OldSatanist- what was the unemployment rate, the Dow reading, the deficit when Obama inherited the worst recession since the dirty thirties?

    Obama’s GDP hit 3% or higher growth in 8 quarters. Obama added millions of new jobs. Obama cut unemployment in half and the Dow set records, the deficits were less than half of what dumbass dubya left and Obama managed this with essentially 8 years of hostile stoopid wingnut obstruction.

    Then here comes worthless Drumpf and his trusty kola OldStumpy to claim credit for stumbling over someone else’s accomplishments.

    Stoopid wingnuts have no shame and there ain’t an honest bone in them.

  34. The market does not solve everything; yours is the prescription of lazy policymakers trying to avoid taking responsibility for the welfare of workers and to cover for profiteering.

    The free market evidently isn’t solving for higher demand, since it allowed wages to stagnate for decades as boards and CEOs kicked the fruits of increasing productivity upstairs and out to shareholders, who don’t buy nearly as many consumer goods as a broad cadre of workers paid enough to go buy more stuff.

    The government has a keen interest in setting minimum standards for compensation for workers, especially in areas where their bosses are making their living off the privilege of using public resources for private gain. The outfitters make their living by exploiting public lands instead of building up private capital like other entrepreneurs who have to build their own factories or climbing walls or roller coasters or what have you. We, the owners of that public land, have every right to say that as part of those entrepreneurs’ price of admission to all this free capital, they have to share their wealth at a certain rate with the employees on whom they depend.

  35. OldSarg

    mike from iowa, this is in no way an attack by any means: Obama is not the president.

    Cory, no one said the free market solves “everything” however, it does provide more of an even playing field rather than having the winners and losers being picked by a government.

    Could you imagine if only “special” people were allowed to blog? You may not be one of those “special” people depending on who is in charge.

  36. jerry

    LOL, Sen. Orin Hatch is just another supporter of money laundering, Which is how this dude got “released” “However, after word of Lacava’s visit was leaked by Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., who has Mr. Trump’s ear on policy toward Venezuela, the administration refused to meet with Maduro’s envoy. Rubio warned that Lacava, who embraces the nickname Dracula for his habits of tweeting and patrolling around his state late at night in a Batmobile-like vehicle, was reportedly involved in money laundering, making him too toxic for a White House bent on punishing such criminal activity.”

    We, here in the United States, are being laughed at by the world for being so gullible. So then, all it takes is money and connections and there you have it.

  37. mike fom iowa

    OS- you were just bragging about the job Drumpf did with all of Obama’s accomplishments despite 8 years of fighting petulant, spoiled brat wingnuts.

    Drumpf not only has not had steady 3% growth he is not anywhere near the 5-6% growth he bragged about.

    As for picking winners by the government, what do you call billions in taxcuts for the wealthy, Drumpf included?

  38. Roger Cornelius

    mfi
    About those tax cuts for the 1%, Trump said he will implement another tax cut just prior to the mid-terms.

  39. jerry

    Anyone know who or where any of these “outfitters” are in South Dakota? I do not know of any on federal lands. First off, before I would go off with someone who is getting 3 bucks and hour to guide me in bear country, I think I would pack a bigger bundle of pepper spray and bells. If I were an outfitter, I would advertise that I pay MORE than the minimum that President Obama directed to insure that my clients were getting the best money can buy. Then I would sit back and laugh like the rest of the civilized world does at how damn dumb our politicians like NOem and Stinkey are while thinking the same about those who elected them.

  40. mike fom iowa

    Roger, I’m sure the koch bros will be in dire straits by then, financially, and will need another bailout.

    Drumpf’s first taxcuts favor small pass through operations which Drumpf just happens to have plenty of.

    I am happy to report I have been able to survive on less SS money so the koch bros can have more.

  41. jerry

    mfi and so many others are victimized by this stale fanny economy. The wages stink as you still have to have two or three jobs to survive. Housing costs are through the roof. Gas prices are rising fast with no end in sight. Energy costs in general have risen more than wages. Where is this trump economy? We are no better now than we were a year ago. Show me the real income of 3% as the net.

  42. Cory —
    Time to tell “Old Sarg” to get his own blog.
    Maybe he can get an “old corporal” to help him.

  43. jerry

    When Trump tells us the economy is “booming,” please remember:

    – Over 40% of Americans don’t have enough savings to cover a $400 emergency expense.
    – 43% can’t afford the basics to live.
    – Over 25% of adults skipped necessary medical care last year because they couldn’t afford it.
    ~ Bernie Sanders

  44. jerry

    Slower population growth? Check Higher wages? Just kidding

    “Pregnancy and the arrival of a new child should be a time of joy and excitement, but for working women in the United States, it’s often a time of financial stress and uncertainty. Women who dare become mothers are subject to additional discrimination, bias and harassment.

    Is it any wonder they’re having fewer children?

    Last week, the CDC released a report revealing that the U.S. birth rate ― the number of babies born nationwide ― is the lowest it’s been in 30 years and is below the “replacement” rate needed to sustain the population.” Kind of spooky when you realize reality. Without better wages along with more immigrants, this country is doomed.

  45. OS: “Let the market decide, not the government”—my response that the free market doesn’t solve everything is perfectly appropriate to your general, unconditional claim. This policy isn’t about picking winners and losers any more than the general minimum wage statutes; it is about providing basic protections for all workers. Please stop misapplying your lazy dogma slogans and try dealing with the particulars of the topic at hand.

    Jerry points out what low wages should signal in the marketplace: that the outfitter hires less-talented labot and thus provides an inferior service. However, Trump’s policy makes it possible for the outfitters to exploit good workers for less pay (and let’s remember, we’re not talking about stellar wages: the Obama minimum was still less than what those workers could get for stocking shelve sin Walmart, far crappier work that adventuring through national forests). This was no oppressive, market-crushing rule; it was just another thing Obama did that Trump can erase to stoke his racist base.

  46. mike fom iowa

    Never saw this coming- Drumpf makes Memorial Day all about himself.
    Trump Honors Fallen Soldiers On Memorial Day With Self-Congratulatory Tweet
    He suggested “those who died would be very happy” about the economy today.

    Vets sacrificed so the koch bros could have more and more. Who knew?

  47. Roger Cornelius

    mfi
    Actually we should have expected this from Trump. He has never uttered an honorable word about anyone other then himself.

  48. jerry

    Memorial Day 2018, 6 trillion in war debt chasing a handful of terrorists around the globe while that dollar meter is still counting. Winning… while we cut pay for an honest days work to give the elite a little more gold for their commodes. After shelling out 6 trillion, we now face the real possibility of loosing Europe to a trade war, courtesy of Russian involvement in our political electoral system.
    We also risk loosing the Pacific to China because of the sheer brazen corruption of corporate America. NOem can cheer along with Putin and the rest of those that have been fleecing America starting with Reagan.

  49. Debbo

    Cadet Bone Spurs deserves to be cowering in a corner today, but he lacks the basic decency and sanity to be ashamed.

  50. o

    On the theme of poorly paying a workforce: it seems that now the CEO’s have tax breaks in hand, they no longer have to pretend that any of the record profits will go to workers’s wages.

    https://www.alternet.org/shocker-tax-cuts-hand-ceos-admit-they-wont-invest-record-profits-worker-wage-hikes

    I cannot feel any empathy any longer for the Trump supporters who are “getting duped by the lies.” At this point, they are not dupes, but enablers that are empowering the dismantling of the American middle class and the stagnation of the underclass.

  51. OldSarg

    “Lazy dogma”? Ok Cory I’ll dumb it down: good worker paid better. Poor work gets, ugh, less. Is that more basic for you? How about: No teachy math no good math teacher.

  52. mike fom iowa

    Wingnut Math isn’t OldSilly’s strong suit. Good worker-paid less = more profits for Drumpf’s and OSs buddies.

  53. OS still can’t get a grip on the issue. Under the Obama rule, employers can still pay higher wages for better performance. They can still fire and replace poor performers. But every worker, regardless of performance, still receives some minimum protection (a wage less than the minimum offered by box stores, a fact which remains unaddressed by the Trump defenders, whose only concern is to keep gleefully and heedlessly ripping up any policy enacted by President Obama).

  54. OldSarg

    Morning mike from iowa. How are you feeling today? Hope all is well and you are getting all the help you need. Take care and remember that the internet is not the real world and what people say here shouldn’t be internalized. Have a blessed day.

    Most of the Obama rules are no more and the rest continue to be stripped away on a daily basis. Had Obama done is right instead of “how he could get away with it”, there would have been a law in place but, alas, he skirted the law and the “rules” are falling away. All those who defended Obama’s actions, knowing he was cheating thus avoiding the “lawful” path of righteousness, were aware that Obama’s actions were undermining our Republic but they kept silent and did so out of greed. The greed of getting their way over the voice of the majority. It is truly a sad day when the minority, in their lust for power, forced their views upon a free people. Maybe Trump is not one’s ideal vision of who the minority or even the majority want as president but by removing these presidential “dictates” he is returning us to a nation of Laws and for that I thank him.

  55. jerry

    Speaking of the republic, why it is good to be white in America: “As hurricane season begins this week, experts are still trying to count the number of deaths caused by last year’s devastating Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico. The latest estimate: roughly 4,600, many of them from delayed medical care.” New York Times 5/29/18

    Thanks trump and the white boys for this murder of Americans. Puerto Rico, the only Americans ever bombed intentionally with hostile intent, by the US Air Force…more than once. NOem/Thune and Rounds all have the blood of Puerto Rico’s American citizens on their hands and corrupted souls.

  56. mike fom iowa

    OldSilly confuses Drumpf’s lawlessness with being ethical. Obama did what was necessary to get America back on the right track and out of the worst wingnut depression since the wingnut dirty thirties.

    Tell me, sport, how many times did Obama take to social media and whine like a school girl about being treated like a four year old like Drumpf?

    How many Obama actions led to personally enriching himself and illegal family members of his administration?

    MAGAts- Making America/Americans Grotesque Again tonto!

  57. OldSarg

    mike from iowa. I do so very much want to respond but I have been warned off out of concern for your health. Best wishes.

  58. OldSarg

    jerry, you seriously think it was white people and trump that killed the Puerto Ricans? How about this: It is actually your fault. You knew of the troubles but you did nothing. You didn’t go to help, you didn’t send money you did nothing but cry baby and blame others. It is your fault they are all dead.

  59. jerry

    You are correct, it is my fault and the fault of all Americans who did nothing to save other Americans in their time of need. I did send money, but did not physically go there as there was nothing I could really do but get in the way. That is what government is supposed to do. That is why we pay taxes and that is why we are supposed to be united in the event of catastrophe to be our brothers keeper.

    The current government and those in charge, big time majority white congress men and women that are republicans, did nothing compared to the storms that hit Texas. The red state of Texas got millions and millions of hurricane relief food and shelter while Puerto Rico got a clown tossing paper towels. Texas got actual workers to bring electric power to the people, Puerto Rico still is without power. The government still has in place tariffs to continue to punish the people of Puerto Rico for being Americans that have been forgotten.

    You claim that you were military, I think you fib as you stand and support a government that literally allowed the deaths of more Americans killed in Puerto Rico then Americans killed in the Iraq War. The destruction of war and the destruction by hurricane and equal in so many ways, both scar you for life and both kill indiscriminately.

    We are all responsible for the lives of our fellow Americans, for that I agree. When will you take the responsibility?

  60. Another specious argument: OS tries to dodge, pretending that if Obama has just had a cooperative Congress and enacted these wage requirements through statute, he’d have been fine with them. Baloney. President Obama did things right; he just had to do them the way he did because the Republicans in Congress refused to cooperate, because their hatred of Obama outweighed their concern for the general welfare.

    Trump has two unifying principles: cheat everyone but the capitalist bosses, and erase anything with Obama’s name on it. Neither principle is concerned with the general welfare that the Constitution says we are to promote.

  61. Debbo

    One more Cory, his overarching principle:

    Aggrandize trump.

  62. mike fom iowa

    Only two things stopping you from responding, OldSissy,- fear and common sense.

  63. OldSarg

    ” pretending that if Obama has just had a cooperative Congress and enacted these wage requirements through statute, he’d have been fine with them.” Cory, not at all! I don’t think for a moment it would have been easy or even successful to go through Congress but guess what? That is how it is designed to be done, the law requires it to be done and to make it permanent it must be done. When you cheat and then the cheating action gets dissolved it is what it is.

    You accuse Trump of cheating yet he has not lined his pockets and as a matter of fact is giving his pay away yet you defend someone who gets the Nobel peace prize for nothing, sells books before they are written and gave contracts to his criminals friends but you don’t call him a cheat?

    Oh, by the way “The U.S. dethroned Hong Kong to retake first place among the world’s most competitive economies” https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-23/u-s-beats-hong-kong-to-reclaim-global-competitiveness-crown?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business&utm_content=business&utm_medium=social

    WINNING!!!!

  64. mike fom iowa

    First paragraph from OldSomalian’s Bloomberg link has a few questionable remarks made.

    The U.S. dethroned Hong Kong to retake first place among the world’s most competitive economies, thanks to faster economic growth and a supportive atmosphere for scientific and technological innovation, according to annual rankings by the Switzerland-based IMD World Competitiveness Center

    This administration has gone out of its way to openly combat science and diminish its role in America.

  65. jerry

    A couple of items need work ‘The U.S., which reclaimed the No. 1 spot for the first time since 2015, scored especially well in international investment, domestic economy and scientific infrastructure sub-categories while earning below-average marks in public finance and prices.” Public fiance and prices are below average. Also, what about agriculture? I wonder how many bushels to the hectare Hong Kong gets on its corn and soybeans.

  66. jerry

    Like these: “Very few Americans have enjoyed steadily rising pay beyond inflation over the last couple of decades, a shift from prior years in which the working and middle classes enjoyed broad-based wage gains as the economy expanded.

    Why it matters: Now, executives of big U.S. companies suggest that the days of most people getting a pay raise are over, and that they also plan to reduce their work forces further.

    Quick take: This was rare, candid and bracing talk from executives atop corporate America, made at a conference Thursday at the Dallas Fed. The message is that Americans should stop waiting for across-the-board pay hikes coinciding with higher corporate profit; to cash in, workers will need to shift to higher-skilled jobs that command more income.”https://www.axios.com/broad-based-pay-rises-retraining-automation-executives-3e68d31c-51bc-4bde-a362-7ce12b039e7c.html

    There ya have it, straight from the Fed. While we languish waiting for that tax cut to kick in to help pay for the high price of gas, now we know…it ain’t coming, ever. Loosing!!!

    To get to winning!!! Vote Democratic for the governor, for the US House, for Cory and for any other Democrat that will make the change to better us all.

  67. No, not winning, OS, because the discussion here is about whether workers on federal lands deserve some minimum workplace protections. I’ve made a reasonable case that this regulation is reasonable and far from burdensome. It is precisely because you aren’t winning that point that, as usual, you resort to a variety of your other prefab distraction points.

    Put another way, you can walk into the SAT and shout, “I’ve got big balls!” but you still have to answer the questions on the test to get into MIT.

  68. Debbo

    Cory, you made me laugh. Mike, you too with your variety of names for Old Stinky.
    Thank you gentlemen.
    😆😆😆😆😆

  69. mike fom iowa

    Hey Oldslumber- WASHINGTON — The U.S. economy grew at a weaker 2.2% annual rate in the first three months of the year, as consumers and businesses slowed their spending. But given the economy’s recent performance, analysts are still looking for a solid rebound in the current quarter.

    Growth in the gross domestic product, the economy’s total output of goods and services, came in slightly below the first estimate last month of 2.3% in the January-March period, the Commerce Department reported Wednesday. GDP is expected to strengthen to a growth rate of about 3% in the April-June quarter.

    The Trump administration is projecting that its economic policies will keep growth at rates of 3% or better in coming years.

    The new report was the government’s second of three looks at GDP in the first quarter. The biggest factor in the downward revision was less inventory building by businesses, which shaved 0.3 percentage points off growth.

    How do you like pathological liar Drumpf’s 3% sustained growth now?

    Obama’s men said 2-ish % growth would be the norm without guest workers and stuff.

  70. mike fom iowa

    But, then, you ignore empirical evidence over several decades that proves wingnuts can’t govern and can only grow deficits while Dems grow the economy, jobs, etc.

  71. Debbo

    Good sources Mike. Since the 1980s GOP has really shown themselves to be inept at governing and this all GOP government has been the most pathetic of my lifetime. I suppose that’s due to the difficulties associated with getting directions from Putie.

  72. mike fom iowa

    Good point, Debbo. It seems that the wingnut impostors placed in the WH have deteriorated every election since Somebody liked Ike.

    Dumbass dubya lowered the bar. Drumpf has drilled miles deep boreholes under dubya’s lowered expectorations.

  73. Cory — time to tell “old Sarg” to get his own blog. He can still have his “freedom
    And not bother the res of us.

  74. Porter Lansing

    I like ‘ol Sarge. Jason aka Miranda Lynn, too. Their arguments are easily “refuted”. lol :)

  75. mike from iowa

    For fun, Kansas SOS Kris Kobach got his comeuppance in court, again as Judge ruled Kansas voters do not have to prove US citizenship to vote. She is making him take law classes because he has no idea how to lawyer. She made fun of his abilities and found him in contempt for failure to observe decorum or something in court.

  76. mike from iowa

    No where else to put this- The Dow dropped 300 points today, giving up all its gains for the year amidst threats of more tariffs from Drumpf.

    I talked with a lady friend whose hubby farms and they are ticked off about fluctuations in grain market that are not necessary except to salve Drumpf’s ego. They are worried this year may force them off the family farm.

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