Rep. John Wiik (R-4/Big Stone City) plagiarizes Ben Carson; now my Rep. Dan Kaiser (R-3/Aberdeen) plagiarizes Allen West and says we should accept women, children, and old folks fleeing Syria’s civil war and the Caliphate’s terror, but not military-age males:
Kaiser said that he favors a policy that would allow Syrian women, children and elderly into South Dakota, but not military-age men.
“It’s in response to ISIS and their latest attack, (and since then, the Islamic State has sent) out information of attacks that they’ve planned to carry out within the United States,” Kaiser said. “Why would we allow in militants from an area that is admittedly at war with the United States?” [Elisa Sand, “South Dakota Lawmakers Seek Stand on Syrian Refugees,” Aberdeen American News, 2015.11.18]
Only men age 18 to 45 pose a security threat? Oops—a raid in suburban Paris apartment building this morning blew that idea to bits:
The French prosecution office announced that a woman inside the targeted apartment in the Saint-Denis neighbourhood detonated an explosive vest shortly after the raid began at 4:20 a.m., Paris time and was killed.
According to the prosecution office, three men who were holed up in the apartment were taken into custody by members of France’s elite tactical squad, RAID. Another man and a woman close to the apartment were also detained [Graeme Hamilton, “Paris Suicide Bomber Blows Herself up as Police Storm Suburb in Hunt for Mastermind,” National Post, 2015.11.18].
None of the perpetrators of Friday’s attacks in Paris has been shown to be a Syrian refugee. The provenance of the Syrian passport found near the body of one of the suicide bombers remains in doubt. All of the perps identified so far lived grew up in France and Belgium prior to the Syrian refugee crisis.
Rep. Kaiser is at least trying to find room in his heart and America’s vast wealth for some refugees. But apply his own threat assessment to the facts of Paris, and we would have to conclude that we can’t let refugees of either sex into the country. Women can be radicalized, passports can be faked… no criterion provides 100% security. We must nonetheless plant our flowers, reach out our hands, and say, “Let us help.”
Let’s just chain these people to the CAFOs and dairies then make them beg for citizenship.
EB Rounds submitted this gem in which he falls for the meme of a the attackers being Syrian immigrants. Isn’t this the same crook that allowed the Karen to immigrate here? Here is the note that all good republicans got.
We stand united with France after last week’s terror attacks in Paris. While we continue to pray for the victims and their families, these attacks have raised questions as to our own national security here at home.
We stand united with France after last week’s terror attacks in Paris. While we continue to pray for the victims and their families, these attacks have raised questions as to our own national security here at home.
In light of reports from French and other European officials that at least one of the attackers used the flow of Syrian refugees to enter the European Union, today I joined colleagues in a letter to the administration requesting they make certain no members, supporters or sympathizers of ISIS are infiltrating Syrian refugee movements to enter the United States.
In the letter, we wrote that “while our country has a long history of welcoming refugees and has an important role to play in the heartbreaking Syrian refugee crisis, our first and most important priority must be to ensure that any refugee who comes to the United States does not present a threat to the American people.” Until we are assured our security procedures reflect this additional threat, refugees should not be permitted into the U.S., today I joined colleagues in a letter to the administration requesting they make certain no members, supporters or sympathizers of ISIS are infiltrating Syrian refugee movements to enter the United States.
In the letter, we wrote that “while our country has a long history of welcoming refugees and has an important role to play in the heartbreaking Syrian refugee crisis, our first and most important priority must be to ensure that any refugee who comes to the United States does not present a threat to the American people.” Until we are assured our security procedures reflect this additional threat, refugees should not be permitted into the U.S.
Wow, it double whammed…
With a dysfunctional congress and long history of not helping but being the problem don’t count on it. We’re a continued disgrace.
France and Germany continue to show how immigration will be done due to climate change. Hollande has set in motion the continuation of the 30,000 Syrians to come to France as was promised before the attack. Germany continues with allowing the immigrants to come. In the meantime, the Russian, French and American pressure continues.
Can someone explain why France and German have more values than republicans?
yes by all means let’s break up families. Then these same people bitch when these people get government aid because their husband or father aren’t there to help provide for the family.
Here’s what their French view on the refugees.
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/11/18/3723440/france-refugees/
America accepted 800,000 Vietnamese and was just accused of ‘moral exhibitionism’ for its politicization of Syrian civil war.
If humans are part of any intelligent design little wonder homo sapiens is terminal.
What a tangled cluster- we weave when we pass laws that allow anyone,anywhere,anytime to buy weapons in ‘murrica. Wingnut chickens coming home to roost at Thanksgiving. Oh don’t let these bad people in. They’ll buy weapons and use them on us-wah,wah,wah! Who knew this could happen if we let the NRA write our 2nd amendment laws for us,wah,wah,wah!
@Jerry: Because Germany and France’s fertility rate is below replacement levels and their populations are shrinking.
“Here is the thing. Wherever you stand in the debate on whether immigration is a good or bad thing – and most economists would argue that immigration promotes growth – right now immigration looks much more economically useful to Germany than to the UK.
That is perhaps one of the unspoken reasons why Germany is being much more welcoming to asylum seekers from Syria and elsewhere right now.”
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34172729
Anti-family. Anti-American. Anti-Life. Anti-Jesus. That about sums up the Republicans attempts to score some political points out of the misery of the Syrian refugees. Cory, thanks for providing factual information to rational folks among us, but facts don’t matter to the Republican cowards. They are scared of their own shadows (remember their cowardice during the Ebola “scare”), and they have the wrong values (they are completely selfish and self absorbed to the exclusion of others), and no shame about it. When an entire political party is the party of cowardice and immorality, you say things like Trump, Noem and Kaiser. If you get too many scared, selfish idiots in charge, you end up with a fascist party. Republicans, think very seriously about the place you are taking your party.
coyote-is rupert murdoch succeeding in shrinking the integrity of BBC? we once kinda had a BBC in PBS/NPR. sadly that is gone. that damn unethical, untrustworthy walter cronkite
@Don Coyote, Hmm, we have the same thing here only it is republicans that are killing our women during and after childbirth. Infant mortality here is about the same as Mali. We should have no problem whatsoever immigrating these climate change seekers.
fleming just posted this on his fb page:
http://www.vox.com/2015/10/14/9525469/syrias-war-a-5-minute-history
@ Jerry, I’d check your numbers again. Mali fertility rate is 6.8 and the US is 1.9 according to the World Bank. Germany is sucking wind with 1.4.
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN
Assad-dissension: kill 1st, ask questions later.
US law enforcement?
yer an idiot, don.
http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/south-dakotas-infant-mortality-rate-improves-for-2nd-year/?id=178267
South Dakota at top of fertility list though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_fertility_rate
Levant-the L in ISIL. ISIS-Islamic state in Iraq and Syria
So Syrians can become Germany’s new Turks. They’re not a very tolerant bunch either: http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/essay-on-racism-growing-up-turkish-in-germany-a-932154.html
Mali’s infant mortality rate is among the highest on Earth and the US worst of the G20.
hc-u mean germany has republican equivalents?
Israel should be moved to Utah right next to a new town for Syrian refugees.
mfi makes a great point – the NRA supports arming virtually everyone with AK 47’s and AR 15’s and our Republican leaders bow down and kiss the NRA’s feet. But these same Republicans are scared to death of refugees because they just might take up the NRA’s offer that they too should be armed with weapons capable of carrying out a slaughter like Paris. Go figure. . . .
August 2013: The Ghouta chemical attack that shocked the world(Ammar al-Arbini/AFP/Getty Images)
On August 21, Assad’s forces launched sarin gas — a horrifying and deadly chemical weapon — into the Damascus suburb of Ghouta, killing somewhere between 281 and 1,423 people, likely including hundreds of civilians.
It is perhaps the single most infamous event in the Syrian civil war. Morally, it symbolizes the depravity of Assad’s strategy.***
The chemical weapons deal [w/putin] was certainly a real accomplishment: It significantly lowered the risk of both chemical weapons use and of large deposits falling to ISIS or al-Qaeda. But Syria’s rebels felt betrayed, and came to believe that the US would never fulfill its promises to help them.***
Syria has come to represent all of Putin’s greatest fears about democratic revolution and the expansion of Western influence. He’s determined to try to save Assad
vox article 9.15
How does this possibly square with the pillar of “conservative” social policy statements that says the viability of our entire civilization depends on the presence of a father in the household????
Leslie – baloney – Putin is determined to save his PERSONAL cut of the black-marketing of oil able to flow through Syria and onto the world market via DAESH (ISIS).
“EU decision to lift Syrian oil sanctions boosts jihadist groups”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/may/19/eu-syria-oil-jihadist-al-qaida
mfi, check out this link describing what Texas Republicans fear:
http://www.occupydemocrats.com/texas-republican-we-cant-accept-refugees-because-its-too-easy-to-buy-guns-here/
Excellent link,bcb. As for refugees,there are 13 stages to being allowed refugee status. http://www.rcusa.org/uploads/pdfs/Refugee%20resettlement%20-%20step%20by%20step%20USCRI.pdf
The United States does not include Guam, American Samoa, Puerto Rico, Virgin Islands into the overall figures for infant mortality and for good reason, they would be higher than what the CDC reports. http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/maternalinfanthealth/infantmortality.htm
Face it Don Coyote, your republican party hates women and kids, kind of halfway between W.C. Fields and Hannibal Lecter.
Update: Canada is implementing something like the Kaiser plan. The Trudeau Administration says it will take women, children, and families from Syria but not unaccompanied men. Canada has been screening a hundred people a day in Lebanon for the last six weeks. They may bring in 900 refugees a day from Lebanon, Turkey, and Jordan. Their goal is to bring in 25,000 refugees by the end of this year.
Good for Canada! Those guys know hockey and know chicken crap when they see it from their neighbors to the south. Once again, republicans show us how phony they are with the fear factor. I wonder when we will tire of it and get off our arse’s and vote.
As climate change is the cause of the Syrian plight, https://ca.news.yahoo.com/britains-prince-charles-climate-change-root-cause-syrian-092031663–business.html how will we react when more of this surfaces? How will we react when it affects us here in the US? The rising seas will no doubt inundate much of the southern states, where will they go and will they be accepted here?