Last updated on 2017-07-20
Hey, Tim Bjorkman!
And hey, Kristi Noem!
Health care could have big electoral implications in 2018. 53% of voters said they were less likely to vote for a member of Congress if they supported the health care bill being considered, to only 21% who said they’d be more likely to support a member who voted yes. One thing that’s particularly notable is the division even within the Republican base on that front. Only 36% of GOP voters would be more likely to support a member of Congress if they voted for that health care bill, to 32% who would be less likely to. That suggests bucking the party on health care isn’t the kind of thing that’s so unpopular it would have much chance of leading to a successful primary challenge from the right.
The current political climate is already looking dicey for Republicans as the 2018 midterms loom. Democrats have a 50/40 lead on the generic Congressional ballot [Tom Jensen, “Health Care a Mine Field for Republicans; Many Trump Voters in Denial on Russia,” Public Policy Polling, 2017.07.18].
Oh these darn Repubs They are stunningly reckless. Trump has said he won’t own it, let it crumble. The same members of Congress who voted for repeal when it was safe theater knowing Obama would veto now won’t vote for it.
Trump “cared” so much about Charlie Gard’s health but doesn’t care about the millions in the individual market and Mcconnell and the rest of the hard liners refuse to see COMPROMISE is necessary. And this compromise means there are NO MAGIC WORDS universal health care possible in this country. Pushing for that is similarly reckless.
You keep making this absurd statement that forcing a child to die and not allowing them to travel is placing that infant’s rights over the parents, who are their guardian. This is the difference between Socialism and Libertarianism.
This huge health care debacle, criminal in nature really, is the reason we can’t trust government with our health care. Look at the players and what they’ve done! What are the right words? Childish, petty, uncaring, concerned only about power, etc, etc, and you want to trust government? I’m starting to look at you and questioning your sanity.
Happy prefers insurance companies screw him on premiums and then screw him again by not paying for the coverage he paid for. Of course if he is talking about a pre-existing condition, insurance wouldn’t cover it anyway. Then you get into arbitration with the deck stacked against Happy and he’ll feel like he is in heaven and will prolly soon be available for inclusion.
Happy, you have changed considerably in recent months. You used to be so combative. Now you take a gentler tact. Are you sick or something?
We have to look at our dysfunction government, accept what is possible, and compromise. The comment section tends to be overly idealistic. Because of work less time to argue, but if the vitriol gets too high it’s not fun.
And Pat Powers said on his blog that someone from this comment section threatened him to the point he called the police. That tells me we should probably not use our real names on social media. Doing so does hold us more accountable, and it’s too easy to have a loose tongue with anonymity, but certain lines just can’t be crossed.
Today I’m going to board the government funded train (no charge for me) and take it to Denver and then walk a half mile below ground through the government funded, air conditioned city bus terminal to the government built Union Station train depot and sit in the government remodeled “Living Room” with an entertaining assortment of people, restaurants and businesses from around the world and maybe play some government funded free shuffleboard. Then I’ll stroll on the government built sidewalks to Coors Field where I’ll park myself in the free area behind home plate, holding my four dollar entrance ticket. On the way there if I see any homeless people I’ll give one a bottle of water and the other a knife. I’ll get back to ‘ya on the result.
Living in SoDak and complaining about the dysfunctional government is a criticism of South Dakota not a valid criticism of government. Buying things as a group helps everyone who contributes, whether they’ll admit it or not.
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@Porter: From what I read about the RTD is that from the get go it was over budget and only with private investment did Denver get it built. It appears it still is running deficits. Maybe a fare increase would help defray the RTD’s expenses although those who ride would throw a conniption.
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/10/how-denver-leaders-pulled-off-a-public-transit-miracle/425583/
I don’t know about Denver, but sidewalks (and streets) here in Sioux Falls are built by the private sector (as well as the sewage and water) and then gifted to the city. When the concrete police come out and throw a fit because I have a portion of my sidewalk sinking or raised or cracked I get to pay to have it repaired. The same is true with the city trees in the parking. All trimming, removal or replacement is the responsibility of the homeowner. So much for buying things as a group.
Isn’t it hard to dance with that stick up yer butt, Don? Choosing to be grumpy and tee’d off during the last third of my life isn’t on my agenda. But, I do support your right to make that choice. Keep smilin … LOL
Of course Powers has irrefutable proof it was someone from Cory’s comment section?
@Porter: Not grumpy at all. I’d wager I’m enjoying life as much as you are. I’m just wishing when you extol the virtues about government “buying things as a group” to get better pricing that you would be more forthcoming about the details of your claims.
Was I wrong about the RTD?
Right. You’re just around a culture of negativity so much it seems normal.
Here’s a life lesson … no charge.
About group purchases and RTD costs , who cares? Nice things are more fun than a state surplus. ⚾️🌭🍻😎
JUL. 19. 2017, 07:19 A.M.
Polls Show Pref for Dems Leading Next Congress; Health Care~ Cory
Oct. 25, 2016, 1:17 P.M.
Poll: Most see a Hillary Clinton victory and a fair count ahead~ CNN
NOV. 8, 2016, 7:40 A.M.
One last look at the polls: Hillary Clinton’s lead is holding steady~ LAT
Not original but at least you are in the same company. . .
@Porter: “Nice things are more fun than a state surplus.”
Tell that to Illinois. Nice things are fun especially when using other peoples money.
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-bZmSdbV9LKU/WW_GbkokgQI/AAAAAAABo6g/8LqGztm01a8jKsK5iaS6B2ixMjAiyg_qACLcBGAs/s1600/control%2Bcongress.png
This should worry wingnuts. Everyone wants Dems to control next congress except for diehard whites.
“Everyone wants Dems to control next congress except for diehard whites.” What on EARTH is a “diehard white”?!! Is it someone who is trying to “stay” white? How can you not stay white? Are people changing somehow? Is the world becoming darker? Is there an outbreak of melanin darling everyone? Is it caused by Global Warming?
Diehard whites are the wingnutjobs that do not want and probably will not accept America as a minority majority nation. We are fast becoming minority majority, Sarge. What you gonna do?
Btw-did you look at the graph before commenting?
How can you not stay white? Are people changing somehow?
Drumpf spray tans his pasty white hide Orange. He doesn’t do it because it makes him look healthy.
Definition of diehard in English:
diehard
NOUN
Often used as modifier. A person who strongly opposes change or who continues to support something in spite of opposition.
I am a few days late to this post but Dems winning in 2018 isn’t going to happen. The message is coming from the capital “D” democrats and they ain’t fooling anyone.
Here’s a group that changed Curt. Hope you can, also.
https://mennonitemafia.wordpress.com/2014/08/27/some-thoughts-on-mennonites/
Porter,
Thanks for the link to the article. My wife and I are Methodist’s and have been donating to the Mennonite Central Committee for a number of years now. We feel, compared to other denominations, they are better at meeting the needs of those they serve. They “do” instead of “talk”.
Dressing up Chuck S and Nancy P as populist isn’t the same thing. There was a populist candidate that was resonating with much of the same demographic as Trump. To say that the same people that went out of the way to nominate a seriously flawed centrist candidate beholding to Wall Street have changed in the last 9 months is wishful thinking. And erroneous.
Oh…and this: http://splinternews.com/democrats-wake-up-and-smell-the-failure-1797015279
Curt J, I’ll agree with that article to this extent: in 2018, we Democrats need to campaign on 2018, not 2016. We need to talk about the destruction being wrought on health care right now by this Congress and this Administration.