Rep. Lynne DiSanto likes carrying gun bills, but her comments from the House floor make me even less confident in her ability to safely carry a gun.
Speaking Thursday to House Bill 1072, her proposal to repeal the requirement to get a permit to carry a concealed pistol, Rep. DiSanto offered this justification for deregulating her Regulator:
State Representative Lynne DiSanto sponsors the bill. She says lawful gun owners are allowed to open carry, but they immediately become criminals by wearing a coat…
“Let’s stop making the law abiding people criminals. By the simple act of placing a jacket on, possibly guilty of a class one misdemeanor, one year in jail, and a $2,000 fine for even inadvertently concealing your weapon,” DiSanto says. “You could be driving in your car with your gun in your seat next to you and your coat falls off the back of the seat onto your gun and you are now a criminal if you do not have a permit” [Lee Strubinger, “Bill That Allows Concealed Carry Without a Permit Passes House,” SDPB Radio, 2017.02.23].
O.K., first, why not hang your coat on the back of the seat, or on the back of the driver’s seat, or on the hook, or lay your coat on the seat and then lay your gun on your coat?
Second, why are you laying your gun on the seat? If you’re taking curves and hitting bumps that knock your coat around, might you not also be taking a risk that the gun falls off the seat? Doesn’t your gun owner’s higher standard of responsibility require that you keep your gun secure at all times?
Lynne, get a grip!
HB 1072 passed on Thursday 37–30. It proceeds to Senate Judiciary.
Putting yer gun in a holster partially conceals it so then you get 6 months and a $1000 fine.
Some of these eo called responsible gun owners ain’t.
With 1072, we won’t see this type of strong arm robbery as we won’t have to leave a gun, as did the woman in accordance with NC Law, in public view to please the Police.
Why didn’t she have a a North Carolina CCW?
Why don’t you give her the $600+ it costs to get one?
Or should only 1%ers enjoy the benefits of the 2A? …and the 1st Amendment too?
From Cory’s citation website:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/05/foghorn/debunking-mother-jones-10-pro-gun-myths-shot/
South Dakota is open carry so why not pack that baby on your hip man. If you have that smokewagon in your car, you can put a holster for it on the counsel for quick drawing and stuff. If you have that Sig 320, be proud, show that dog off. Folks appreciate when they see you walking the dog, so don’t disappoint. Why would anyone be ashamed of carrying that in the open? Talk about a fashion statement, here is my favorite http://www.craftholsters.com/catalog/product/view/id/35322/gun/866?gclid=CPug2-THq9ICFVhXDQodg_4Abg
Two clips at the ready and one in the Sig, nothing more needs to be said, you are a prepared force looking for a shootout. Go get’um tiger…grrrrr
Using unusual situations to divert attention from what the original reason for a law is just being deceitful. Allowing the original purpose for a law and making an amendment for special situations is much more appropriate. But being appropriate or having concern for others safety simply is not her purpose. Her own self is all she is concerned about. Someone could quickly conceal their weapon if a cop is approaching and the cop would be in danger. How is that for reverse distraction to the law she wants.
We don’t know if someone has a permit to open carry or not, the best advice is to call a cop when you see someone with a gun.
I can’t wait for some really big AIM type Indians from the reservation come into town openly packing heat, the 911 calls will overwhelm the police.
Barry Freed- http://uspolitics.about.com/od/Gun-Control/a/Gun-Laws-Signed-By-Obama.htm
Obama signed 2 gun law bills- both expanding rights for gun owners so give it a rest.
The bill right wingers tout as the Social Security bill was aimed at keeping guns out of the hands of people with mental disorders and never went into law. Wingnuts passed a new version allowing more mentally unfit to have guns even though they claim most shootings have to do with mentally unstable people. Smooth move, Ex-Lax.
Until recently, North Quackerlina was run entirely by right wing nut jobs. Why didn’t they fix their laws to suit Barry and his ilk?
A person of thought must ask, why there is such a fear of those American citizens who are non-white? Why would the legislature wet their pants with hiding weapons meant to threaten and kill American citizens who happen to be of different color than those who regulate law? How much money did they receive from the NRA for this fear mongering?
I always liked the violent movie “The Godfather” and appreciated it even more when Marlon Brando won the Academy Award for best actor, here he is at that moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QUacU0I4yU
Legislators, put aside your hate and fear, and do the work of all the people of South Dakota. We put you in office to find ways of improving life, not taking it. Many of you claim that you are pro life and then you show your hypocrisy with laws that are just the opposite. Be as aware as we all are, your Custer is showing.
Anyone who hoped to ask Rep DiSanto about her bill at today’s RC Crackerbarrel was unable to do so as she missed her 2nd of 3 such events this session.
Wonder what the excuse was? A transgender run on available bathroom space at Sears, maybe?
http://rstv.nic.in/us-indian-engineer-shot-dead-suspect-hate-crime.html
shooter got into an argument with the victims in the terms of racism, and shouted “get out of my country”, “terrorist” before shooting them. He reportedly provoked them into argument asking their presence and work in US and how they are better than him.
I think he may have gone out to his car for a gun.
thks pres trump
What’s with the gun phobia in Pierre? Obamas not around to take our guns anymore.
‘Wet their pants’ good one Jerry.
Lynn DeSanto has proven to me she would be a true danger in an uncomfortable situation. Like a cracker barrel with her constituents. Probably safer she doesn’t show Curt.
I know NOBODY that drives in town with a handgun on the car seat. You get in an accident and who knows where it will end up.
This bill appears to be fear mongering to me. Maybe fear of a few dozen street people in downtown RC Lynn?
10 dollars for 5 years. Then when your stopped by law enforcement you hand them your drivers license, insurance AND concealed carry permit and tell them you are carrying or have weapon in car. That permit is the best way to initially inform them. Imho.
Read where Muhammad Ali’s wife and son were detained in airport.
Where did you get the name Ali? You a muslim?
Nice.
Perhaps the experts on the 2nd Amendment can help me sort out a question. Does the 2nd Amendment permit our government to restrict the manner in which we open carry.
Say, for example, if a someone was worried about the safety of our legislators and wanted to be sure to get the drop on any bad guy who tried to hurt a legislator, could he sit on a bench in front of the capitol with an AR-15 and aim it at anyone coming in or leaving the capitol just in case the person aimed at might be a bad guy, or a good guy gone crazy for that matter, who harbored an evil intent to harm a legislator? Would holding a loaded weapon and pointing it at the head of a stranger constitute bearing arms?
In other words does the 2nd Amendment prohibit all restrictions on the manner in which someone bears arms? That seems to be the idea behind the Desanto bill.
http://juanitajean.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Unknown-4.jpeg
Remember a time when this picture sent wingnuts through the roof? This is becoming the norm in Drumpf’s America.
bcb, very good question and great point.
“Is it a crime to point a gun at someone?
Neither is pointing a gun at someone who is not aware that a gun is being pointed at him or her. Aggravated assault is a specific type of assault that occurs when someone commits assault and actually intends to cause serious bodily harm or succeeds in causing serious bodily harm.”
As long as they are unaware they are being scoped, it is all good. I think that if you put that red dot on their forehead though, that might be considered assault with intent. Cross hairs though, seem to be accepted. And now, with the withdrawal of protection from those among us who are nuts to be able to carry, it is really the insane running the asylum.
How much money did they get for this? 9 grand a year is chump change, these guys and gals are getting some serious squeeze coming from somewhere.
Jerry, my question goes to the Constitutional 2nd Amendment argument. I agree that under our current statutes it is unlawful to point a gun at someone’s head and the red dot on the forehead might support an aggravated assault charge. But under the Desanto rationale, where no restrictions on the right to “bear arms” are permitted, is such an aggravated assault law consistent with this reading of the 2nd Amendment?
Couldn’t 2nd Amendment strict constructionists argue that by putting a red dot between a legislator’s eyes as he walks in or out of the building our 2nd Amendment guy is just taking a preventative measure by letting that legislator know that the 2nd Amendment guy is watching and will have the advantage if the legislator plans to unlawfully hurt someone?
Or if our 2nd Amendment guy sits in downtown Rapid City and points his AR-15 at large crowds of people during summer nights, couldn’t he argue that anyone planning a crime would be deterred from trying to commit that crime if he knew there was a red dot on his forehead?
Bearcreek Paranoia and Inanity Strawman Syndrome. i.e. B-PISS.
The latest addition to the list of Medical Mental disabilities according to the AMA.
HEY! What if Martians land here? Will their ray-guns be 2A legal? Do they have to carry them exposed?
But, B-PISS does not explain how anti-2Aer’s don’t mind militarized Police actually pointing Full Auto M-4s at peaceful protestors. Nor do they find anything to fault when Police actually shoot protestors with Less Than Lethal (may be fatal) weapons. The B-PISSers wish to explore: “what ifs” in a sophomoric distraction instead of examining: What IS in N.D.
All decent Americans were shocked and outraged at photos of the out of control Democrat Justice Department masked men, pointing MP-5’s (full auto machine guns), fingers on the triggers, at the terrorized little boy.
barry, name calling and ridicule might make you feel better about yourself but it does not address the question: Where do 2nd Amendment advocates draw the line about how and when someone may bear arms?
If someone has the right to bear arms without government restraint then why shouldn’t he be able to point the the arms in any direction he chooses, including at other people?
barry, can you identify any credible links or evidence that
as I have not run across any such claims before.
And isn’t it our Republican Governor that advocates a new law that increases a governor’s ability to use such government force to attack demonstrators and protestors? Is Daugaard one of those “anti-2Aers” you describe? And the governing Republican authorities in North and South Dakota that authorized the use of such force against protesters; are they also among the “anti-2Aers” you describe?
BCB,
You have to admit this blog is rabidly anti-2A, to the point of illegally Cyber Bullying. So you show us on DFP, where Cory or anyone has ever suggested Police should have their use of Assault Weapons restricted in ANY way. If Cory ever gets the guts to attend a large protest, he will learn. Rubber bullets are rubber in name only and they can be lethal. Flash Bangs will take your arm off, as one did at the DAPL protest.
MFI even used a photo of an out of control, Clinton FBI, pointing an MP5 at women and children, WITH HIS FINGER ON THE TRIGGER, as an argument meant to ridicule those who were alarmed. Clinton was laying out Trump’s policy on illegal immigrant babies for him. Time Magazine put that photo on the front cover and it was thinking, feeling, human beings, not wingnuts, who were outraged.
barry, I cannot recall a single thread where Cory supported violence against pipeline protestors. I recall someone named grudz advocating such violence but grudz seemed to be in the minority. Here is one of Cory’s comments from a Nov. 26, 2016 post:
Here is a link to the DA pipeline threads that Cory has posted. Perhaps you recall a post where Cory and like minded commentors supported the police use of assault weapons and violence against protestors, but I did not find one.
https://dakotafreepress.com/tag/dakota-access/
And why would you say Cory’s blog is rabidly anti-2A? Can you provide an example where Cory posted something that could be called anti-2A? I acknowledge that some commentors may seem hostile when they use labels like “ammosexual” to describe folks with different views on what regulations and limitations, if any, that the 2A permits, yet even most of these folks only argue for reasonable restrictions aimed at saving lives. Most don’t seem to want to do away with the 2A (although I admit there may always be some exceptions).
Illegally cyberbullying? Ha. Empty threat.
Anti-Second Amendment? I do not oppose the text of the Amendment. I do oppose its abuse to push the idea that people should be able to carry guns anywhere, anytime.
It is far from anti-Second Amendment to say that Rep. DiSanto needs to more safely handle her firearms.
I do contend that the Second Amendment is less important, morally and practically, than the First Amendment and other protections of our civil liberties.
MFI even used a photo of an out of control, Clinton FBI, pointing an MP5 at women and children, WITH HIS FINGER ON THE TRIGGER,
Whoa, Barry Hoss! That picture I posted was the one from the night the Feds finally got their hands on Elian Gonzalez so he could be reunited with his Cuban Father. That had zero, zip, zilch, nada to do with gun control or the 2nd amendment.
Also- do you remember how many brown people were shot in that raid? That raid was filtered through the judicial system and was not a knee jerk reaction to immigrants, such as you see with the present administration. Try not to get the two situations confused.
One last thing, wingnuts -the party of family values tried every trick in their book to prevent a Father from getting legal custody of his child because wingnuts hate Cuba and Castro and took it upon themselves to decide that child would be better off separated from his loving Father.
MFU,
They had 24/7 armed guards surrounding the house he lived in, so they already had “their hands on him”.
Now, instead of a anonymous, armor plated Masked Gunman pointing a full auto MP5 at the child, finger on the trigger, imagine it was Charlton Heston…
Only Charlton wouldn’t, as he was NRA trained.
Berry Fraud- (arent name games fun?)
Just be damned glad they didn’t Waco the bejesus out of them nasty Cuban IMMIGRUNTS! That is what wingnuts of this administration would do and the dead child would be written off as collateral damage and a person with no business being in white America