Making Americans get a license for one of the most useless implements they buy could save lives:
…there’s some solid evidence that a license system reduces gun deaths. A 2018 study from researchers at Johns Hopkins University found that universal background checks alone correlated with more gun homicides in urban counties, while license systems were associated with fewer gun homicides. Other studies have similarly found that license requirements lead to fewer gun deaths.
…In Massachusetts, one of the few states with a license system, obtaining a permit requires going through a multi-step process involving interviews with police, background checks, a gun safety training course, and more. Even if a person passes all of that, the local police chief can deny an application anyway. That creates more points at which an applicant can be identified as too dangerous to own a gun; it makes getting and owning a gun harder.
Whatever one makes of all of this, the evidence strongly suggests the license requirement works. Massachusetts, for one, has the lowest rate of gun deaths in the country [German Lopez, “The Case for Requiring Gun Licenses,” Vox, 2021.05.21].
South Dakota got rid of concealed weapon permits two years ago, thus removing that opportunity for law enforcement to identify folks who should have guns in their hands or pants. Deregulating pistol-sneaky-Petery didn’t save lives; South Dakota’s murder count rose from 12 in 2018 to 16 in 2019 to 37 in 2020.
Guns don’t raise wages or lower rent. Guns don’t feed children, stop pandemics, or prevent pipeline hacking. Guns mostly stoke egos and imperil lives. Requiring licenses for guns would reduce no one’s productivity or quality of life, and it would increase the number of people who get to stick around and enjoy life.
True, but the same people who told us that they refused to wear a mask or get a vaccine “because I don’t live in fear” are the ones packing the concealed weapons because someone might attack them at the grocery store.
Why do so many say “true, but” when “true, and” is actually the case?
Is this a South Dakota thing? Just asking.
But, but, if big brother licenses your guns they can confiscate them just like they confiscate your cars. They do that don’t they?
Mark, don’t worry, big brother decided to adopt the 2nd Amendment to assure that any revoluntionary group dis-satisfied with the way big brother was running things could go ahead and murder anyone that they felt was part of “big brother” that might be governing contrary to how the revolunary group might prefer. After all. the “big brother” that created our Constitution was so self-sacrificing it wanted to make sure the good people of the nation could uise guns to murder “big brother” members, i.e. government employees. Without such a provision in the Constitution preventing “big brother” from regulation of guns, dis-satisfied revolutionary groups would certainly just go “darn it, I guess there is nothing we can do but go home and passively submit to these horrible laws we object to.” And “big brother” sure wouldn’t want people to do that now, would they?
Insurance. The insurance companies could stop the gun nut nonsense in a New York minute by requiring gun insurance lines on ones homeowner insurance and / or vehicle insurance.
It would not be the first time that insurance companies created a social good where meek legislators failed.
I’ve always been in favor of mandatory gun insurance. And why shouldn’t it be mandatory? If your child takes your car and runs into someone’s house or their person, you should be held responsible. The same with guns.
Guns are escapism.
The more mundane your life, the greater the need.
I know science and statistics don’t lie but I’m not sure this will help. Currently there are no regulations at gun shows, swap meets and states that do not make you register your gun.
There isn’t a transfer of ownership via serial numbers or anyone checking at the shows or swap meets, as long as I have the cash, I can get the gun. I’m skeptical oaf
Ma stats. What other things is the state doing for the good that hinders the bad guy. Or maybe they just don’t have bad guys. From the Midwest south into tx and Az the gun shows are not regulated.
All you need for conceal carry permit (you get one even though we r open carry so you can carry in states with reproving) is $10 and a brief questionnaire.
Reciprocity I meant
Porter L for some of us it’s a hobby collecting not shooting has nothing to do how mundane a life can be. The “need” is social or mental failings guns are just the weapon or vice to try and obtain whatever short givings the perpetrator needs to fullfill
Well…I like the gun insurance idea that John brought forward. There are TOO MANY GUNS sloshing around in a vast sea of apathy. 17 year olds armed with 45 caliber pistols, UZI’s and AK’s in the hands of the deranged, Narco wars on the streets of small cities. The second amendment speaks of “the right to keep and bear arms” as a part of being in “a well regulated Militia”. It assumes that the people who keep and bear arms are upstanding people of good reputation in the community. It’s not an absolute right granted to everyone.
Strong gun laws are working great in Chicago !!!
For T and grudzie and the SD MAGA’s
This is grime music –
Grime is invading America like The Beatles did, when I was a yout …
Grime is not garage
Grime is not jungle
Grime is not hip-hop and Grime is not ragga.
Grime is a mix between all of these with strong, hard hitting lyrics.
It’s the inner city music scene of London.
And is also a lot to do with representing the place you live or have grown up in.
*skeng is “your weapon of choice”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuQPdO-ysic&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR36pB9_nBGknm8wSEl4jInjwtwsFrZoBbx9GPrEC-ys0xp8rY4mWcjZwOQ
Come on folks, guns aren’t going away and you need to invest your money right? Why not, its a good transfer of wealth and those people are so easy to scare.
There are a lot of sickos in S.D. with guns that SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THEM AT ALL. Some of them can not get job, place to live, a driver’s license, a phone or a car but they have a gun.
It’s mainly a man thing, although SOME women carry, shoot, and hunt. More so now because it’s COOL. Noem and the Republicans fear of “us without guns” has stoked a paranoia I’ve never seen before. And these kooks are drinking, shooting anything that moves in the grass, and smoking a joint while cutting the tails off. All after church on a Sunday afternoon. Can’t hike without hearing shots anymore. Not just scary but sick.
When violence becomes entertainment, it has been accepted as a cultural trait. The U.S. is exceptional in that it is a place where violence is contributing to lower life expectancy, healthcare crisis, and human rights issue. We are becoming a less developed nation because the love for guns is greater than the love for fellow human beings.
Another mass shooting out west overnight. No details on victims or shooter(s) right now.
In light of Republican Sen Warner’s passing, is there a brief Senate opportunity to sidestep McConnell/Thune’s obstructionism?