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Politico Spotlights Eight Battleground States… But How Is Trump Close to Biden Anywhere?

Politico lists eight states where the Presidential election will be won or lost. South Dakota is not one of them.

Where will Joe Biden and Donald Trump be fighting their hardest? Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, and Arizona—all together worth 127 Electoral College votes.

Biden is up in every mational poll counted in the Real Clear Politics Presidential polling average since April. Biden is up in the RCP average for seven of those eight Politico battleground states; Georgia is the exception, slimly, for Trump, though all eight remain in RCP’s Toss Up category.

That any state can remain close for an incumbent overseeing recession-level unemployment, a trade deficit ballooning instead of disappearing as promised, an two 9-11s a week in pandemic deaths, all while doing nothing but tweeting insults and lies all day and attacking his own military, is a remarkable testament to some voters’ ability to see what they want to see (id-level affirmation of their worst instincts) rather what they need to see: an incompetent occupant of the White House bringing the American Century to a chaotic end.

22 Comments

  1. cibvet

    Cory—As the old saying goes” stop saying how stupid can you be, because people take it as a challenge”.

  2. Donald Pay

    Next Thursday election officials will mail my absentee ballot. I hope to receive it by Monday the nest week, at which time I will mark my ballot and drop it at a drop box. I expect to complete all this by the first day of Autumn.

  3. bearcreekbat

    There were reports that vets were asked about their views of Trump after the Atlantic reported about Trump calling vets “suckers” and “losers.” Apparently vets who already opposed Trump believed the report and were angered by it. Vets that previously supported Trump, however, simply declared the story “fake news” and their support increased.

    https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/in-surprise-to-no-one-but-the-atlantic-veterans-still-support-trump/

    II addition to denying that Trump’s obnoxious comments about the military, many of our Trump supporting family, friends and neighbors apparently share these additional fantasies:

    – our unemployment problems are not Trump’s fault and his leadership is improving the situation daily;

    – a “trade deficit” is simply anti-Trump media hype, or if it exists at all it is Obama’s fault and Trump is working to fix it;

    – the virus is fake, Trump has streamlined a vaccine to protect us from this fake virus, Trump has prevented fake “pandemic deaths” with his travel restrictions on China, and reports of Covid 19 deaths are falsified because that increases outside funding; and

    Trump’s “tweeting” is his means of successfully battling a media that is out to get him.

    There must be some means of communication that can redirect Trumpists from such infantile thinking to the reality our Country is living with, but so far it remains elusive. As of August 24, 2020, the Pew Research Center reports:

    Over the course of his presidency to date, an average of 87% of Republicans have approved of Trump’s handling of the job, . . .

    Trump’s approval rating is broadly positive among independents who say they lean toward the Republican Party, though not quite as high as among self-identified Republicans. As of August 2020, 62% of GOP leaners say they approve of the way Trump is handling his job in office, compared with 86% of Republican identifiers. . . .

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/24/trumps-approval-ratings-so-far-are-unusually-stable-and-deeply-partisan/

    Perhaps not all of these Trump supporters are motivated by the lies described above, but one has to wonder about their thinking. Retaining power seemed an easy explanation, but even this makes little sense. Had Republicans removed Trump, Pence would have become President, hence Republicans would have retained power. Some other motivation must be driving this propensity to support someone as dishonest, selfish, obnoxious and reportedly incompetent as Trump and to reject our main sources of reliable facts and information.

  4. leslie

    BC-so well queried. Not any kind of a psychologist, I only suspect that moving public sentiment in our hyper-politicized world is the entire game. Rules, norms, ethics or intellect don’t matter. Watching the para military militia growing threat, their years of prepping, fueled with rage, theirs is an investment in a position the GOP/NRA fully understands, and no matter what the November vote count winds up to be, the divide will persist.

    This racism, which Happy used to say didn’t exist, is the fundamental survival mechanism evolving white hominids carried forward. The Indians view it as arriving in the American continents in 1492. The NYT 1619 Project and the disenchanted Republicans’ who already got their judges—the (1865) Lincoln Project, witness Black Lives Matter. Law Enforcement Officers (LEO) have responded to body camera accountability requirements by turning them off and shooting people, usually to death.

    Our military have responded by either flying Trump flags or acknowledging if they would have killed George Floyd or shot James Blake, they would be court-martialed.

  5. happy camper

    Didn’t exist very much. You must also be willing to look just as closely at the extreme things happening on the left.

    “Death To America” has been chanted at every major protest location in the last week. This kind of vitriol will have consequences. Even if they detest Trump swing voters will ultimately vote for safety. The side that even appears to be aligned with this more radical, anti-American movement is going to lose. These provocations should be called out by the moderate left before the country moves toward greater civil unrest or outright civil war. NYC, Philadelphia, Oakland:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NOQlRNyUuo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk1n7gXDuLI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkxKvZ2txGE&t=498s

  6. ds

    For once DTrump isn’t lying…he warns that mail-in voters are fraudulent cheaters and voting is corrupt and rigged. To ensure that is true, he whips his puppet followers into a frenzy and tells them to ‘vote twice to test the system’ thereby guaranteeing discord then chaos at the voting booths. Well, WBarr needs to station his DOJ election monitors at the polls so that when anyone tries to mucky up the clean election process by attempting to vote twice, are THEN pulled out of the line, detained, and investigated!
    Of course that won’t happen since WBarr already excused and defended the potus for his mail-in voting remarks…and i predict that Postmaster General Louis DeJoy will not face any charges or else he will be pre-pardoned by DTrump.

  7. cibvet

    To my point”how stupid can you be” is a challenge to trump followers.

  8. cibvet – –
    once again ……”Hey, hold my beer and watch this!”

  9. Debbo

    Democrats can sweep the election without the trump cultists because the numbers are there. Democrats need to focus on flipping voters who checked R last time but exist in the real world. Those voters have been flipping to D at a high rate. Battling GOP election fraud and GOTV are the key elements

  10. Debbo

    Minnesota Democrats and sane Republicans are fighting hard for Biden because none of us want the embarrassment of living in a state that voted for Commandant Loony Toons.

    Members of the first family of fruitcakery have shown their greedy faces here too often lately. 🤮 🤮 🤮

  11. Glad to hear from you again, Hap!

    Both sides, both sides! Such is the last, desperate cry of the nihilists trying to protect Trump and hide from their error. Trump is the far greater monster. Trump’s gun-nut, boogaloo, radicalized bullies are the far greater threat to American values and our safety. Vote Biden, save the country, and save the world.

  12. bearcreekbat

    happy’s links refer to “antifa.” It is a curious question where Americans stand on “antifa.” This term does not describe an organization nor a gang committed to violence, rather it is a shorthand for “anti-fascism,” a political viewpoint that opposes a fascist state.

    . . . fascist parties and movements . . . had many characteristics in common, including extreme militaristic nationalism, contempt for electoral democracy and political and cultural liberalism, a belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites, and the desire to create a . . . “people’s community”. . . in which individual interests would be subordinated to the good of the nation.
    . . .

    Fascist parties and movements came to power in several countries between 1922 and 1945: [two notorious examples are] the National Fascist Party (Partito Nazionale Fascista) in Italy, led by Mussolini; [and] the National Socialist German Workers’ Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei), or Nazi Party, led by Adolf Hitler and representing his National Socialism movement . . . .

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism

    So, by definition if you are an antifa, that means you:

    – oppose “extreme militaristic nationalism,”

    – support “electoral democracy,”

    – oppose “rule of elites,” and

    – want your government to support and honor “individual interests.”

    Has the Trump administration taken us to the point where a healthy percentage of our nation no longer sees the danger of fascism?

  13. jerry

    You’re on to something bcb with the acceptance of fascism. I would agree that the US is on that path once again, along with a chunk of western Europe (UK, Hungary etc.). It seems that we humans cannot go long without a major conflict or a world war to come together to put that fascism fire out. The embers are starting to burn a little brighter each day of the trump fiasco.

    Take a look at South Dakota as an example. When 60% of the citizens vote to not endanger themselves to the trump virus plague and then their voice is overturned, what do you have?

  14. Paladn

    Democrats will allow Trump to win. Biden supporters will not vote because some effort is required and the campaign and Biden supporters believe that because the media are telling them that Biden leads in the polls they will not make that effort. 2) Why will Biden participate in the “debate”?? I cannot believe that the Biden campaign committee and the National Democratic Committee will allow Biden to participate. Trump will not waste time on “issues” and spend all his time on destroying Biden on personal attacks which will appeal to and solidify Trump’s base and those having no opinion. Not that they will watch the fiasco but they will listen to the “news” and friends that are vocal supports of Trump. 3) Trump’s campaign will outspend Biden regarding advertising as well as use the assistance from other sources.

  15. jerry

    Paladn, Paladn, where do you roam. You seem like your roaming far far from home. Biden will not debate. trump has already lost, strayed or stolen 800 million in cash, so he is kinda broke.

  16. jerry

    I do actually hope that Biden “debates” trump, although I think trump will back out. That way it can be shown how trump has betrayed the working people of this country. Biden has a plan, trump has a big mouth.

    “Biden, by contrast, will do what Trump didn’t: Use active, interventionist government to actually create jobs and rebuild U.S. manufacturing capacity. While there’s no question the left deserves credit in pushing Biden in this direction, his broader agenda has proved unexpectedly progressive.

    “This flips the tables,” Jared Bernstein, a progressive economist and outside adviser to the Biden campaign, told me. “It doesn’t just block incentives to send jobs overseas; it creates new ones to create jobs here.”

    The new policies “say that Biden will actually and aggressively pursue good jobs here in America while Trump pretended to do that,” Bernstein continued. “It’s the difference between reality and reality TV.” Washington Post 9.9.20

    We have no real economy here right now. To show how far in shambles it is, try to buy 10 dollars worth of quarters. That’s right, there is a coin shortage of all things. Nope, our economy is being shored up by taxpayer money printed to prop up Wall Street. If the FED would cough and pass gas, the buy backs would fall and so would the whole house of cards.

  17. Jenny

    MN will not turn red, I will bet my money on that. Latest polls in MN show a clear lead for Biden and older voters are going overwhelmingly for Biden. Trump is in an uphill battle. Arizona is in the deep blue now. Michigan is safe and I would say Wisconsin is too.
    Sorry, Trump voters – hate will not win the election.
    Independent voters and older voters are leaving Trump.
    I think Biden will surprise people in the debates. Trust me, he will be prepared for Trump’s freakshow tactics to make him look demented.

  18. leslie

    ds-

    1.) AG Wm Barr deserves a list of fellow agency heads that everyday also create chaos, and have and are failing miserably in responding to emergencies that are within the mission of their agencies’ duties to ameliorate. They are some of the following.

    2.) Unlawfully appointed “acting” Secretary of Dept of Homeland Security Chad Wolf who unceremoniously replaced Secretary Kirsten Neilson by her faulty order of succession she amended AFTER her “resignation” 4.7.20. Trump has avoided nominating a candidate for DHS Secretary required to be Senate confirmed for over 500 days.

    (Without such confirmation, and other political scams, Trump has avoided oversight of his political appointees who do whatever he tells them, usually in violation of law, norms, ethics and the congressionally designated agency mission.

    3.) Ken Cuccinelli, “senior officer performing the duties” of the Deputy Secretary DHS.

    4.) Trump names Kevin Macalenan, then acting of Director of Customs and Border Patrol, to be acting Secretary DHS 4.8.20 over Karen Grady who would have become acting Secretary. Macaleanan then himself enacted a new order of succession appointing Wolf and Kucinelli.

    5). Expanded continuation with correct spellings to follow….

  19. jerry

    The republican party is dead. They are the party of dead and as of today, have 200,000 killed in action to atone for. Of course, they never will so they just need to be buried as they are stinking up the place.

    “Tom Nichols, Professor of International Affairs at the US Naval War College and a livelong repubilcan, described what should happen thusly:

    Today the Republicans are the party of “American carnage” and Russian collusion, of scams, plots, and weapons-grade contempt for the rule of law. The only decent, sensible, and conservative position is to vote against this Republican Party at every level, and bring the sad final days of a once-great political institution to an end. Then build the party back up again—from scratch.”

    Indeed, couldn’t have said it better. The party of death. Booyah!

  20. Debbo

    Yup. Start from scratch with a new name. The Conservative Party sounds just fine.

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