While American Democrats can’t figure out whether they want to impeach Donald Trump for his tyranny or not, the British Labour Party has no trouble declaring their brutish executive ought to leave office. The United Kingdom’s Supreme Court says Prime Minister Boris Johnson broke the law and maybe misled the Queen when he suspended Parliament:
Parliament was suspended, or prorogued in the formal term, from Sept. 10 to Oct. 14. The prorogation was approved by Queen Elizabeth, Britain’s politically neutral head of state, on the advice of the prime minister.
Some lawmakers, including those thrown out of Johnson’s Conservative Party for rebelling against his Brexit plans, had said he should resign if he was found to have misled the queen.
“It is impossible for us to conclude, on the evidence which has been put before us, that there was any reason – let alone a good reason – to advise Her Majesty to prorogue Parliament for five weeks,” the judges said in their ruling [Estelle Shirbon and Michael Holden, “UK Supreme Court Rules PM Johnson’s Suspension of Parliament Was Unlawful,” Reuters via KELO Radio, 2019.09.24].
And British Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn says up front that Johnson should leave office:
A raft of MPs have now called for the prime minister to resign and for Parliament to return as soon as possible.
Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn said the ruling showed Mr Johnson’s “contempt for democracy”, adding: “I invite Boris Johnson, in the historic words, to consider his position.”
Johnson vows to leave EU on the 31st. I think that’s great, and would love to see trade between the UK and US increase drastically without overlording from the EU and global banking AI-driven integrations.
The people of Brittain voted to leave the EU twice. They will be very upset of the decision to leave is not respected.
BJ can vow to leave, but that vow and my recent dump are worth the same. BJ doesn’t have Parliament behind him for his plan, rather, lack of plan, to leave. So, there you have it. Representative democracy and the rule of law is a frustrating thing for would-be dictators BJ and DT. Both are going to end up in DEXIT, which is short for “dictators exit.”
Having bilateral trade is a very 18th century idea. It’s not likely to come back into fashion, but for those who like to dress up and play pirate, I guess it has some value.
Donald Pay – news flash: https://www.bbc.com/news/politics/eu_referendum/results
Democracy or no democracy, that is the question .. not respecting the will of the people, even (especially) in a close vote, just because the result was not what you wanted, destroys great societies.
“Bilateral trade” – Great Brittain represents a potential trade window to many other societies/countries.
The discussion is not bilateral vs non-bilateral. It is globalist imposed and managed trade vs free market dynamic trade.
Donald’s right. It doesn’t matter how you feel about Brexit or free trade; you can’t suspend Parliament without proper legal grounds. Johnson is pushing Brexit by illegal means. Johnson, like Trump, needs a hard lesson the superiority of the rule of law to any tyrant’s will.
Cory – “you can’t suspend Parliament without proper legal grounds”
Are you advocating, then, for the democratic republic?
Brexit was approved in a purely democratic vote two times, was it not?
On the heals of both, we see elected political activists not accepting those results, executing any and all contingencies to obviate a democratic outcome they didn’t like!
Power to the people? :D
Ok, so a bare majority of Great Britain voted out of the EU, but a pretty good majority of the people in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland voted to remain. Without a deal that meets their concerns those areas of Great Britain are going to be very restive, if not in outright mutiny. If you watch Parliament and events in Great Britain you get the impression that the civil unrest in Northern Ireland will restart, Scotland will break away and even Wales is making noise about casting off. That is just the beginning or maybe the end, because before that the British banking system will likely collapse and there will be nothing, really, to trade.
Brexit was sold based on the fact that they could get a deal with the EU that would provide for a soft landing: a split with the EU would happen, but with adequate protections for a time that would protect the economy in the short run. Theresa May tried hard to negotiate that deal, but all sides in Parliament seemed dissatisfied. No one wants a “no deal” Brexit except for Putin-Trump allied with the British right wing who seek a weak and divided Great Britain so that it is easy to turn the country from a parliamentary democracy to a dictatorship.
I don’t get a chance to agree with Donald that often, but I do regarding his concern for the Brexit situation.
By the way, nothing says they can’t hold another vote to see whether, when faced with reality, the people of Great Britain still want to leave the EU. That, to me, would be a good way to settle it in a democratic way. Let the people decide. With all the facts available, I think the people of Great Britain would vote differently.
On leaving the EU – the latency between execution of the people gives an opportunity for opposition to pollute the well. Given enough time, all democratic outcomes could be overturned and never implemented, never giving the voting majority the chance to see the fruit of their vote.
That is why it is so important to democracy that the Brexit vote be respected as the will of the people in the context of the time. Without that, whatever negative things will come from Brexit will pale in comparison to the Totalitarianism ushered in by setting a precedent of not respecting democratic outcomes.
Currently I’m watching “THE GREAT HACK” https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9358204/?ref_=tt_urv about how Trump paid Cambridge Analytica a million bucks a day, for nine months, to steal the election from Hillary Clinton, illegally. The paradigm of mining data from voters without permission was first used to make the Brexit vote illegitimate, also. Brexit was the practice operation they used to convince Trump they could manipulate enough voters in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania to steal enough electoral votes for a fraudulent victory. The only fair solution in Britain is another Brexit vote, this time without Cambridge Analytica.
Yup. What Donald said and what Porter said.
The UK still has an honest Supreme Court. After Liar-in-Chief is gone in 2021 and sex offender and liar Kaveman is impeached, President Warren can appoint a smart, thoughtful and fair justice to be approved by the Democratic Senate. Then the process of renewing the USA will begin.
This Just In … Pelosi endorses impeachment. No more need to attack Trump. He’s destroying himself.
NPR has the impeachment news covered.
is.gd/FKZW0g
Porter Lansing – Regarding Cambridge Analytica – the scandal there from my perspective is three fold.
1 – the data came from FaceBook breaches.
2 – The DNC hack contained too much data to transfer over fiber in the time suggested.
3 – Seth Rich took slugs in the back in a “robbery”, but had his watch and wallet still.
So, the DNC emails were not pushed through Cambridge Analytica, they were stolen by Seth Rich. The Cambridge Analytica narrative falls apart on this detail, researched and citable to Bill Binney.
If the DNC wants to go guns blazing on Trump right now, we’ll see a trove of declassified data that creates an enormous and beautiful isht show.
Mr. Dale is trying to deflect and distract from the Camridge Analytica/Facebook crimes which made an invalid cheater an invalid President. I recommend every reader here, with an open mind, should see the movie, “THE GREAT HACK”. It’s well done and balanced fairly. Here’s a tease …
At an hour in, Brittany Kaiser, an executive whistle blower at Cambridge Analytica explained that the psychological profiles they created with Facebook data were used to determine voters whose minds they could alter towards thinking Hillary was evil and that their candidate was the only hope for America. Those people were labeled “persuadables”. But, she said, we didn’t identify persuadables across all of America. We targeted persuadables in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Florida. Then we bombarded their Facebook page day and night with lies about Hillary until we controlled the way the persuadables viewed USA. Eventually they thought the way we taught them to think! And, they voted the way we taught them to vote!
I’m hoping the DNC is holding back this film until a week before the election and then plays it on all three mainstream networks. It’ll bury the cheater with his own medicine.
I’ve heard about the movie Porter, and look forward to an opportunity to see it.
I imagine Dale will go on with his silly tales regardless of evidence to the contrary. Why would he change now? 😁
Yes, John Dale, there has been a long time lag between the vote to leave and the collapse of any pretense of a deal passing in Parliament. Brexit was sold based the promise that there would be a deal worked out between the EU and British leaders as part of the Article 50 process. The problem has been that several iterations of the deal have been turned down by Parliament.
It’s sort of like our problem with fixing the US immigration system, which everyone agrees needs to be done. There have been efforts over the years, and it was close in the GW Bush years, but the deal didn’t come to fruition. Same with fixing Obamacare. The fixes are pretty simple to add in, but people feel they have to make political points rather than provide people with health care. It’s frustrating and anti-democratic, in certain ways, but that’s how representative democracies work. Change is never as fast and efficient as it should be, but it beats having Boris or Donald ruling over us like a King.
Why would he change? Maybe it will become important how his children remember him? History won’t be kind to those who’ve sacrificed their dignity and honesty to make excuses for the lies from President Trump. Trump can’t help himself. He’s a psychologically, compulsive liar and a greedy, self consumed man with no regard for the rules. These Trump defenders however, who try to cover up his criminal activity, will be held accountable for the rest of their lives.
Porter has some wishful thinking going on. Today sane people consider the crowd who stuck it out with Nixon hopelessly devoted morons lacking in judgement, or worse. Nixon was able to gain back a modicum of respect in later life, but the scum who stuck with him remained scum. Going back a few years, those Nixon defenders were the same folks who followed Sen. Joe McCarthy to the end of is self-destructive jihad against the truth. The populist lackeys of McCarthy and Nixon and now Trump are just successive generations of the happily deluded right wing morons, who are easily manipulated by scamsters.
But were they or will they actually be held accountable? I don’t see that in history. We let these deluded folks off the hook every time. They are often the very same people, because they go back swimming in the conspiracy theory realm until they find the next charlatan to believe in and prop up. We really do need to hold these folks accountable. But how? Shame doesn’t work, because they don’t have the ability to overcome their paranoid thinking.
Let’s not discuss “democracy” or the “will of the people” without stamping that Boris Johnson became PM lacking both. Boris became PM without a general election. He was “selected” by a mere 92,153 party members – yet, there are 47 million eligible voters according to the National Office of Statistics; and recall that over 33.5 million voted in Cameron’s hacked BREXIT referendum. Less than 1% of the voters can give you a PM — some democracy, some will of the people in the UK.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/13/boris-johnson-blasted-leaders-becoming-pm-without-election-old-column-9945489/
In addition to, The Great Hack, here’s the trailer for BREXIT, an HBO movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5S1EMmCWAE
The Brits and their stolen empire swirled around the drain for the past 100 years. They are rushing their way to becoming a 2d or 3d rate power. The US must not join their journey.
Porter Lansing – “History won’t be kind to those who’ve sacrificed their dignity and honesty to make excuses for the lies from President Trump”
He gave a speech to the UN recently .. we watched it as a family last night. AMAZING, although President Trump is not the best with his nonverbal. The speech was exactly the correct strategy for The US and the world; nationalism, respecting social history, and individualism.
Nationalism has a long and troubled history of failure.
Porter Lansing – “the psychological profiles they created with Facebook data were used to determine voters whose minds they could alter towards thinking Hillary was evil and that their candidate was the only hope for America”
Hillary IS a very bad person. So is her husband. How could the Clinton Foundation still be operating after what it facilitated in Haiti?
I have had some personal testimony from missionaries who were in Haiti at the time the Clinton Foundation was exporting children from there. If you aren’t into that type of thing, I suggest distancing yourself from the Clintons. They are very bad news .. Lewinski was just the tip of the cigar .. er .. ice berg. Trump had a wild past, but the Clintons are still operating.
If Trump was anything like the Clintons, I would not vote for him. But he’s not.
No secret societies. He didn’t usher China into the US through Wal Mart (notice where Wal Mart’s headquarters is?). He didn’t foment the Arab Spring. He isn’t trying to destroy America.
The real bad guy in this is FaceBook and their intelligence service adjuncts who play fast and loose with their data.
FWIW, this is why I have been a technology advocate for almost two decades, which is why I have been black listed in my industry and have a difficult time finding work. At the same time, that’s why I have all kinds of credibility now in the technology space, and why you can trust my opinion when it comes to privacy issues on The Internet and willingness to do the right thing as the leader in an information systems firm now.
Dale seems to earnestly and seriously believe all his wackdoodle stories. 😮 Pootie and the boys must love him. Wow.
“I have all kinds of credibility now in the technology space, and why you can trust my opinion.”
You just live in your own little world. What do you do with all the reams of information that prove your pet theories wrong? Do you just decide to ignore it? If it fits your preconceptions it’s true. If not, it’s false. Simple.
It’s a different kind of strange reading what happens in the brain of a dedicated True Believer like Dale. Wow.
Cracks me up when young Mr. Dale gives me advice. Thanks, John. The point of the film “The Big Hack” is exactly that. Facebook was as much a criminal enterprise as Cambridge Analytica. It’s hard for Americans to conflate pure evil with a platform where we see our friends baby and puppy pictures. Also, data is now valued higher globally than oil. Nice to know you’ve been blacklisted, Dale. I’ll add that to your OCEAN profile. PS … when someone says, “I have all kinds of credibility.” It means the opposite. No one with credibility has to mention it.
Debbo – “waves hands, magically discounts credibility of source with no evidence”
Porter – “[I am old, therefore I am wise, and you are psychologically profiled as lazy in an uncountable court where you can neither face your accuser or defend yourself]”
John Dale – “I’m waiting on a book from my library to continue my reading on the weaponization of psychology in the Third Reich .. the economy of slander is strong with these two .. anyone must be crazy who does not agree with them. Heil Debbo! Heil Porter! Aber, warten sie bitte ein moment .. sie sind ganz echt Verrueckt!”
The weaponization of psychology is best studied by examining the way Trump and CambridgeAnalytica stole the election. First they isolated “persuadables” of which Mr. Dale fits the mold. No friends or peers and desperately longing for respect and recognition. Trump paid a million a day for tens of thousands of fake Black Lives Matter and fake Anti-Muslim Facebook posts. (Hillary paid for 67,000 Facebook ads. Trump paid for 4.6 million Facebook ads). Trump even paid to organize BLM rallies with fake members acting out for the camera. It only took 70-80 thousand persuadables to flip Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. Problem is, DarkHearted Donnie hired a foreign company (Cambridge Analytica) and it’s a felony to hire foreigners to influence an American election. #HelloImpeachmentInquiry #GoodByeTrump
So, let’s be fair.
Clinton campaign had $1.4 billion dollars – roughly $500,000,000 more than Trump campaign (and she still lost).
American politicians should be relegated to threaded youtube debates. This would be fantastic .. would stop feeding the psychological weaponization machine of the MSM (let’s face it, commercialization enabled by MSM is a bastardization and economic weaponization of psychology).
But to single-out Trump is intellectually suspect, IMHO. But I bet we agree that we need to get money out of the campaign process, right? Make it a contest of ideas?
Trump’s ideas resonate with the American people. He’s a conduit for the majority of Americans, while the other side is more totalitarian and pushing their ideas onto the American public. I see this as a basic truth after close inspection. Trump people like his platform, and voted for it, and will vote for it again as long as President Trump pursues the agenda in good faith.
The Clinton camp, in my view, is Chinese money proxy pushing technocratic control and social scoring (mylife and the psychobabble test you cite are perfect examples, represent a serious devolution of society and dangerous weaponization of psychology, IMHO).
The abuse of psychological analysis in SD represents the very worst our state has to offer. Many good people have been harmed by the tactics of character assassination and psychological weaponization.
What exactly was the Clinton foundation guilty of in Haiti and what actual, proof do you have, Johnny Fraud?
My best guess is you are just trying to hijack the thread with Alex Jones gibberish garbage,
Go to duckduckgo.com, type in “clinton foundation in haiti”
Review.
It is my belief based on this evidence as well as personal testimony from individuals who were in Haiti at the time that the clinton foundation was .. dubious in their dealings in Haiti.
My own personal conviction is that The Clinton Foundation was at the bottom of a human supply chain selling human beings for sex and worse.
John Dale. There are so many psycholgical manipulators with their fingers deep inside your brain that you’ve completely given up and given in. So much so that you’ve started a podcast and website. That’s what psychologically abused people do when they’re beyond redemption. They try to abuse innocent future victims; attempting to share their own personal agony. You’ve come to Cory’s blog because you subconsciously want to be outed. Well, young man. You’re exposed.
Porter Lansing – these are not the droids you’re looking for.
The confidence game is over, Porter. It’s a slow descent, though, and a soft landing because those in control are more compassionate for those involved .. less so for those in charge.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/13/world/asia/moab-mother-of-all-bombs-afghanistan.html
Good luck with the psychobabble, Darth.
Another one of Cory’s excellently written threads hijacked by John Dale to promote himself.
Roger Cornelius – “Another one of Cory’s excellently written threads hijacked by John Dale to promote himself.”
Translation: John Dale contributed an opinion that was not the same as Cory’s and others, therefore he is an off-topic self promoter.
I think you just lost 10 social credit score points for that one.
There is a “website” field on every comment form. I took this to mean that I was allowed to post links to my website. *rolls eyes*
Roger, Roger. What’s your vector, Victor? Do we have clearance, Clarance?
If the thought of someone listening to some on-topic content at The Internet Radio Broadcast Tower at *john’s website* makes you uncomfortable, you might be a little bit crazy.
What can I say .. I like to write, too, and I like doing my radio show. Also, some people over-react.
You know, the most interesting thing about Dale is the extent of his True Believership. I know other people who are trumpelstilskins and support him and will spout some of the Hillary-is-a-criminal nonsense. But the difference is, people like my Missouri cousins refuse to discuss politics because they know on some level how crazy it all is and they’re embarrassed.
So they’ve got a closer relationship to reality than Dale does. He’s eaten all the craziness up, swallowed it, digested and metabolized it. Now it owns him.
Dale is, without question, the most adamant, fully compromised True Believer Believer I’ve ever heard from. Far out, man.
Oh. And he’s GOT to have the last word. It just kills him not to. So go ahead Dale. I know there’s no talking to a True Believer like you, so I won’t.
I’ll give the last word to Robert Barnes.
Whatever you do, DO NOT WATCH THIS:
https://youtu.be/tmOFaP0zhUc
Bob Barnes is dead and yer a nut.
Personally, I believe Johnny Fraud is selling snake oil to snakes, but only to white snakes.