Outgoing Senator Billie Sutton (D-21/Burke) attended Governor Dennis Daugaard’s final budget address in Pierre yesterday. With the woman to whom he lost the gubernatorial election looking down on him from the House gallery (a geometry Bob Mercer emphasized in his report), Senator Sutton combined a capitulatory compliment for the passing leader with a subtle slight at the incoming Noem/McCaulley regime:
From Sutton, who pushed early childhood education and needs-based scholarships in his campaign for governor, Daugaard received praise.
“I just overall think Daugaard has done a good job,” Sutton said. “It will look drastically different here in a few months, I’m sure” [Bob Mercer, “Lawmakers React to Daugaard’s Final Budget Address,” KELO-TV, 2018.12.05].
For the slower kids in the Noem cabinet, I’ll rephrase that: Sutton just said you’ll be doing something “drastically different” from the “good job” Daugaard has done.
What is Billie’s evidence for this?
Billie sounds like a poor loser to me by saying that.
Got an earth shattering idea for you, Troll. You want to know what Sutton thinks, why not ask him instead of trying to start an argument here?
Billie needs to get in the Sore Loser line with Hillary now. . .
Only time will tell how badly Noem will perform. Judging by the nasty, lying campaign Noem ran against both Jackley and Sutton, and her high absenteeism, poor performance and lack of work ethic demonstrated in congress, we’re in for 4 years of bad governance.
Billie is reflecting the attitudes that people of both parties in Congress have of both Noem and Thune. Congressional staff members refer to them as those “feckless f**kers” from South Dakota. Both were adept at reading party lines and grinning behind their leaders at photo ops, but neither did any substantive work on legislation or its formation. Occasionally the leadership would convince to lend their names as sponsors of legislation to make it look to the folks back home that they were doing something.
Noem was notorious for missing votes. While representatives from South Dakota strive to be put on the Agriculture Committee in the House, because that is South Dakota’s major economic business, Noem resigned from it when she was put on it.
Sutton is merely applying the record of past performance to what is likely to be Noem’s performance as governor.
Those retarded mentalities who can only repeat the cliches programmed into them by their GOP Big Brothers cannot comprehend the actual records com[iled by those they choose to be their masters.
Shorter version: We had the chance and we blew it.
What comes to mind for me is, “who cares what Sutton thinks or says?” So let’s go with that.
OldSnockeredSnooker is about to find out in real time HRC won the office of Potus and Drumpf and Pootie committed fraud to get control of the kremlin on the Potomac.
Billie Sutton is a gentle voice of reason you could learn a thing or a million facts of life from if you only take the time to drop Fake Noise and seek reality.
He is light years a better human being and would have made a pretty darn good governor. I’m sure he would even show up for work now and then. Probably didn’t have to lie about personal sacrifice to save the family farm, etc, etc.
What comes to my mind is, “Who cares what Steve Pearson says?”
48% of SD voters care what Sutton thinks and says. Steve Pearson is somewhere south of that percentage.
Good one, Rohr. Got me laffin’ today.
In a state where 62%of registered voters are Republican NOem only won by 3% which tells you how a lot of Repubs thought of her.
If we’re going to not mention Billie or Hillary ever again, how about the Repubs not mention Obama. Talk about sore losers! Obama saved this country from the Bush/ Cheney fiasco.
Certainly things will be different, but most of Daugaard’s government, and nearly all of it that affects the elite, is going to be left in place. How I looked at the changes is that agencies that affect the lower rungs of society and other people in need will have new overlords trying to order them around, casting dispersions on them, etc., while reducing their measly assistance. Now, could that mean something good or something bad? I don’t know. It’s not as if Daugaard was all that enlightened. Just simply economics would make anyone with any sense accept the Medicaid expansion. The idea that making people work for benefits is rather naive. I worked with many of these folks, and many who can are already working. Sure, help people get work, but the best to get people off benefits is to increase the minimum wage to $15 per hour. Think that’s on Noem’s agenda?
Perhaps Ms. Noem feels the fellows who used to run those agencies were too soft, Mr. Pay. Perhaps she will want to put some real hard-cases in those jobs to crack the whip. Or maybe, as you suggest, she could possibly want to go much softer. I don’t see her wanted to expand welfare, but she could still go softer than some of the mean things like making people work or try to get jobs in order to remain on the dole. It is interesting that the fellow running your old Environmental Agency is still there, but perhaps there is another in the wings soon to bore their way to the center of the ore body, as they say.
Grudz,
Too soft on whom? They are supposed to follow the law when they serve the public, and provide good customer service.
They give the corporate elite the red carpet treatment when they hand out their welfare checks. They get ushered into the Governor’s office, get plenty of free time from multiple state flunkies, then get handed a couple hundred thousand dollars or more. What work do they actually do? Someone working at cleaning the bathrooms at McDonald’s does more work in one hour than a corporate exec does in one year.
Noem has earned her do nothing, lazy reputation. I wonder if she’ll pull a Palin when the job starts to look like too much actual work? What kind of governor would Rhoden make? Will he have any influence over Noem?
I think you’re onto something grudz. Noem is going to make everyone in her family get state jobs to remain on the dole.
Mr. Pay, to complete the full path for you, I am suggesting Ms. Noem got rid of the heads of the agencies who pander to those you profess to advocate for because those old heads were too soft and doled out too much money to the people who choose not to work harder or who just want hand outs. You know. The hand out people.
Mr. Rorschach, I suppose that is yet to be seen. On this day of Messrs. Clinton and Obama lauding how wonderful a man, a patriot, and a statesman that Mr. Bush, the elder, was, we should not jump to conclusions and dispersions like our out-of-state name-calling guests do. I’m just sayin…
So far we have no evidence for what Billie said.
I would hazard a guess that if the election were held today after this comment, it would be a much lesser vote count for him.
Grudz the coward. What is your Real Name and where do you really live? Alabama?
If the state stops handing out money to the big takers, what are those poor corporations going to do if they can’t get something for nothing?
Oh I see. Pointing out the obvious now equates to “he is being a sore loser”.
I keep forgetting that we now live in upside-down world.
I find it difficult to blunt the point on my barbs grudz, but you’re right. There are some times that call for that.
Grudz,
I’m not sure why you assume that the heads of agencies that deal with the poor and people with disabilities were “too soft.” I could see where someone wanting to reform the system would think the opposite.
Finding jobs for people with various challenges is what I did for the last 15 years of my working life. The “too soft” approach and the “get hard” approach aren’t mutually exclusive. I never expected most of those jobs I found for people would get them off any benefits. That seems to be the thinking of the ivory tower theorists. It’s just not reality. Getting them a part-time job at Walmart is a ticket to Medicaid and nutrition assistance. But sometimes a part-time job at Walmart is a step in the right direction and it may be all some folks can get. That’s reality, not being soft. If you have a government, like Daugaard’s, that values low wages above self-sufficiency, you are going to have people on some sort of assistance. If you have people with various health concerns, you are going to have those folks working only part-time or missing work because of appointments. And missing too much work will get you fired. In either case, they will still be on assistance of some kind. That’s not being soft. That’s reality.
It would be nice if elected officials approach issues from reality, rather than some think tank delusion of what real folks deal with. Most of these folks need support, not disparagement. Yeah, some need a kick in the ass, but not at the expense of their health. A sick or hungry person can’t work. They already feel bad about themselves. No one wants to be a drag on society, and every step up they take is something that should be celebrated, not an excuse for taking away healthcare or food.
Grudzilla, how “on the dole are you? SS and Medicare by chance? If so you are a leech and a taker in the eyes of your haunt companyeros.
I would be more willing to listen to people like Grudz who want to complain about folks getting help, if they complained just as loudly about corporate welfare, farm welfare, state welfare, city welfare, etc.
It’s especially ironic coming from one who lives in a state that gets about a third of its budget via blue states. Grudz, git yer lazy ass off the Minnesota dole!
Those of us who don’t live in SD now, whom you like to whine about, are the ones keeping your roads in decent shape, your bridges from collapsing, your water drinkable and your sewer from backing up in your kitchen. We’re clearly way too soft on lazy ass red states like SD.
And what evidence do you have Jason to indicate based on her history in government that Kristi won’t run this state into the ground? I wait with bated breath for your “factual” links.
Kristi Noem, The South Dakota representative only missed 9.4% of the votes in the House.
Keith Ellison, The wife beater from Minnesota missed 13.7% of the votes.
I think all the talk that she was missing a bunch of votes is a bit of a stretch. . .
Kristi will do fine as Governor. South Dakota is a well run state, fiscally secure and manned by great people who care about our state.
It looks like Kristi only missed 4.3% of the votes from 2011 to 2018. The average for all house members during this period is 2.4% missed votes.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/kristi_noem/412475
Keith Ellison missed 6.9% of the votes from 2011 to 2018.
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/keith_ellison/412215
Scroll down to the bottom of the page to see their records on a year by year basis. It looks like Kristi was a no show lots of times in 2018.
I never heard any complaints about Keith Ellison missing votes. He was very popular in his deep blue district in Minneapolis so I guess they didn’t mind.
Nor do you mind Debbo. After all, he is a democrat and a follower of Islam so missing votes and beating women isn’t such a bad thing for Minnesota. Not so welcome in a state like ours, South Dakota. We don’t cotton to beating women here in a South Dakota. It’s all about respect for our fellow citizens. I often wonder what it is like for you knowing your new Attorney General could beat any woman without objection. It just seems so much like the Germans who turned their backs as the Jews were dragged to their deaths without objection. One day you may speak out against the abuse, just not yet huh?
“Who ares what Steve Pearson thinks? Let’s go with that.”
As Ror suggests, I could make that comment, and it would be as substantive and contribute as much to the conversation as Steve’s comment.
Be better, Steve. Say something that helps us understand the world. The only thing we’ve learned from your comments is that you are filled with personal bile and just want to throw insults.
Sutton spent over a year studying Noem’s record. As Debbo notes, we’ve all spent eight years watching her not do her job in Washington. Dennis Daugaard works harder at actual governing than Kristi Noem has in Congress. Sutton’s comment has basis in fact.
OS, to say Kristi will “man” state government is both sexist and false. Matt McCaulley and the lobbyist corps will “man” it for her.
OS, you should tell all the domestic violence shelters in SD how you “don’t cotton to beating women in SD.” I know they can use some humor to lighten their days of helping to mend broken women and children.
Sometimes I think your arrogance and ignorance are on par with Ole Baldy.
Debbo, at least we have shelters, 1/4th the murder rate, 1/2 the property crime rate and filled with friendly people. . .
What protects the women in Minnesota? When you worked for Ellison’s election did you ever wonder what it would be liked to be video taped being dragged across a room? I know someone else that did. Good job defending a coward of a man. . . Post a pic of you and Keith for us. . . Maybe with a Cross and a Koran in the background.
Cory, the term “manned” is an adjective meaning operated by more than one person. I was surprised you didn’t say Manned was racist as you apply that definition to everything else in the world. . .
OS, your usage of “manned” is actually a past participle from the verb “man.” It’s being used adjectivally (and when I studied Russian linguistics, I heard there’s a theory saying all verbs are actually adjectives… or was it the other way around?).
But the part of speech isn’t the basis of the sexism critique. The verb “to man” clearly comes from the noun “man” and suggests that men take charge and operate things. Using the term is not as ragingly misogynist as Donald Trump’s advice and practice of grabbing women by the genitals against their will, but I’d say it’s a step up from the perceived sexism (which I reject) of the appearance of “his” in the word “history.” To say that a female captain mans a space capsule, to tell female soldiers to “man” the guns, or to suggest that South Dakota is manned by a woman is at least silly, if not inaccurate, if not latently sexist.
Next month, for the first time, the Governor’s office will be “womaned”… or it would be, if Noem were actually going to be in Pierre doing the job. It is more likely that OS’s original observation was correct: as I noted, Matt McCaulley and the good old boys will still be calling the real shots, and Noem will just be doing what they and the highest bidders tell her to do.
In that regard, Billie Sutton was perhaps in error: things won’t be drastically different from the Daugaard and Rounds administrations that brought us GEAR UP and EB-5.
Cory, if you think having a woman in the Governor’s office would help why not giver her a chance instead of treating her in the petty way you treat everyone else?
OldSlapandtickle- got proof there is a videotape of Ellison doing anything to anyone? Let’s see it.
No video has been produced publicly, and her statement make no mention of a video.
What video is that, OldShakealeg?
OS, you should not demonstrate your ignorance of domestic violence nor my campaign efforts.
Minnesota has been a national leader in the field and I managed 2 different shelters in SD, in addition to speaking at various conferences and seminars on the subject. One year I was speaker to the SD Peace Officers Annual meeting.
I campaigned for Angie Craig, who won the congressional seat in my district against an openly misogynist racist. Keith Ellison was the better of 2 less than stellar choices.
Do you just make up scheit about people whenever it suits you? You continue to build your reputation here as a liar and fabricator.
I expect Noem to do whatever ALEC/Kochs tell her to do. They and Pootie own the leadership of the SDGOP.
Deb, from your experience do you think Karen Monahan was telling the truth in her accusation against Keith Ellison? Or is there often some doubt? On one hand I can understand why she didn’t want a personal video to be made public, she may not have been fully clothed why was it being taped, but on the other why couldn’t it have been shared carefully. People have agendas and do strange things to get back at exes, but also the choice of attorney to investigate was not impartial.
I tended to believe her, but when she wouldn’t swear to it or allude to it in divorce proceedings, I wondered. The percentage of women lying about sexual assault and physical spousal abuse is incredibly low, so odds are definitely in her favor.
You raise a good point about Ms. Monahan’s possible nudity. She was certainly aware of how viciously women are sometimes attacked for reporting a crime by a popular public figure too.
Women are much more likely to minimize or make excuses for his behavior. Sometimes they’ve become so inured to constantly abusive and assaultive behavior that they hardly recognize it. The gaslighting is pervasive and extreme too. We’ve seen that in much of the reaction to Dr. Ford’s testimony against Kaveman and many other accusations against public figures. Coming forward against well known public men requires a great deal of courage.