Hey, kids! Remember how the mean old Novstrups tried to take away your paychecks?
No, you probably don’t. That was three years ago, and, dude, that’s, like forever. They didn’t even have Fortnite back then. Ancient history.
To review:
- In 2014, Democrats (remember that: Democrats) placed on the ballot an initiative to raise South Dakota’s minimum wage from the federal $7.25 an hour to $8.50 an hour and to mandate annual cost-of-living increases to that new minimum.
- In November, 2014, South Dakotans passed that measure 55% to 45%.
- The new $8.50 an hour minimum wage took effect on January 1, 2015.
- In March 2015, the Republican Legislature passed and the Republican Governor signed Senate Bill 177, which would have taken that pay raise away from workers 18 and under and stuck you kids with a minimum wage of $7.50, with no annual increases for inflation.
- At the end of June 2015, 20,000 friends and I turned in a petition to stop that pay cut and put it to a vote in the 2016 general election. Right there, we saved you young workers a full buck an hour.
- On January 1, 2016, the minimum wage went up for every worker, including you young workers, a whole nickel, to $8.55.
- In November 2016, South Dakotans backed my friends and me and you young workers over the stingy Novstrups 71% to 29%.
- On January 1, 2017, your minimum wage went up to $8.65.
- On January 1, 2018, your minimum wage went up to $8.85 an hour (although by now, if you’re working the same job as you were in 2015, I hope you were able to get a raise and a promotion on your own merits!).
- Over the course of those increases, South Dakota’s economy has shown no signs of the negative impacts that David Novstrup and other fact-free, voter-hating Republicans swore would ensue.
Today, the South Dakota Department of Labor and Regulation announced that, thanks to higher inflation under Donald Trump, our minimum wage will rise to $9.10 an hour on January 1, 2019.
Practically speaking, young workers, that means that if you’re working for minimum wage next year, you’ll be able to make $12.80 more for each full day of work you put in than you would have if the Novstrups and the Republicans had had their way. You’ll be able to earn $64 for each 40-hour week you put in. Sweat all summer, squeeze in fourteen weeks of full-time work, and you’ll make an extra $896 for college or that used car you’re saving up for. Bust your chops all year at full-time, and you can earn $3,328 more, against the wishes of the guys in charge, and thanks to the efforts of people like me and my fellow Democrats.
You’re welcome. No need to send us a card; you’ve got college or vo-tech or groceries to pay for. But if you’re turning 18 in the next five weeks, or if you’ve got brothers and sisters and friends who are 18 or older, get yourselves and your friends out to vote for Democrats, people who give a darn about you, about South Dakota’s youth, and about South Dakota’s workers. You’ve got the proof in your pocket.
This will really help the small rural businesses that are scraping by now. Why I’ll bet rural jobs jump by -8 to -12 percent!!!
Oh, Trump didn’t raise the minimum wage but “nice try” job hater.
This will really help the small rural businesses. With the higher wage, that will mean a little more buying power! A rising tide raises all ships in a Fortnite as well. Bonus points for Fortnite.
Russian, you do not use that word in Moscow…and it does not mean the end result of eating to much borcht by changing the o to an a.
Spelled it wrong, “This Borscht Recipe is traditional Ukrainian/Russian red borscht soup with beef meat, potatoes, vegetables, cabbage and beets.” Yowsir, that some powerful stuff.
jerry, do you honestly think the small rural business owner is a rich Oligarch hiding money in their fridge?
It is clear you have never owned or managed any business. You have not put your money, future and family at risk. You have never been a farmer, a carpenter or even a taco stand owner. You have been no more than an “employee”. This is the great travesty of the “minimum wage”. You call think anyone that owns a business is rich. They are not but what they are is people that are willing to do it “their way” and you are stripping them of that right. Go to Phillip, Kadoka, Belle Fourche or another small town and look at who will be paying that wage. It is not you and nor will the small mom$pop places. They will scrape by with no employees or shut down.
Thinking all businesses are made of money is beyond being stupid.
Well then, there will be many opportunities to take over as those businesses close their doors. Of course this will not happen as these businesses have been through a lot worse than paying a living wage to the people they have known most of their lives. They may bitch and moan on the outside, but they will be happy when they see their friends doing better and them as well. When you have a couple of extra dollars, you tend to spend.
I know that I do not work for Russian interests and collect a paytroll. Are they gonna be giving you a raise now?? Bet you will demand it you old coyote, beats eating hot fresh cow pies on the prairie.
Russian, that is a raise of a quarter $.25 or about $.04 in mother Russia. If a quarter is gonna break all these small town businesses, then buddy, they were fixin to close the doors anyway.
jerry~ It doesn’t matter. You know nothing about running a business and have no understanding or the guts to even try. The whole issue is a sad reflection of you. You should limit your comments to something you can even argue about. Have fun punching the clock.
Cory,
Why don’t you ever mention the University of Washington minimum wage study?
https://evans.uw.edu/sites/default/files/NBER%20Working%20Paper.pdf
Russian, it does matter that good working folks will be getting a $.25 raise the 1st of January. Only a Russian on the paytroll would be jealous of that. Ask Putin for a raise, too soon for this week’s paytroll. But put a bug in his ear about your needs man. A troller has to troll.
My links provide evidence; OS provides none. No response is necessary, as he follows his usual boring rhetorical trail down the toilet.
Jason, however, attempts to introduce evifdence, although still in his annoying, personality-based attack, not really seeking knowledge but seeking to portray me in some negative light, since he’s afraid of anyone in the media providing authoritative commentary and analysis that frequently questions his failing worldview.
The reason I don’t need to mention the Seattle study in this post on the impact of the South Dakota minimum wage is made clear in the first sentence of the abstract:
Little Russian the members of this sect are right wingers among whom, want to privatize Social Security. “Feldstein is an avid advocate of Social Security reform and was a main driving force behind former President George W. Bush’s initiative of partial privatization of the Social Security system.”
As far as Seattle goes, they are booming man thanks for the link for proving the point of wage increases working for workers!
Amazon’s extraordinary growth has turned Seattle into the biggest company town in America.
“Amazon now occupies a mind-boggling 19 percent of all prime office space in the city, the most for any employer in a major U.S. city, according to a new analysis conducted for The Seattle Times.
Amazon’s footprint in Seattle is more than twice as large as any other company in any other big U.S. city, and the e-commerce giant’s expansion here is just getting started.
The swarms of 20-somethings crowding into South Lake Union every morning represent an urban campus that is unparalleled in the United States — and they have helped transform Seattle, for better or worse. Amazon’s rapid rise has fueled an economy that has driven up wages and lowered unemployment, but also produced gridlock on the roads and sky-high housing prices.” https://www.seattletimes.com/business/amazon/thanks-to-amazon-seattle-is-now-americas-biggest-company-town/
Bah zing! Of course South Dakota will not be like Seattle, but it will be nice to see workers getting a little bit of a raise across the board. Thanks Democrats and thanks voters all!
This paper evaluates the wage, employment, and hours effects of the first and second phase-in of the Seattle Minimum Wage Ordinance, which raised the minimum wage from $9.47 to $11 per hour in 2015 and to $13 per hour in 2016 [Jardim et al., 2017].
Right. So when it went to $15, it would be much worse.
I actually read a link Jason submits, answer his question thoroughly, and he ignores my response completely? Forget that. Jason, penalty box. Sit out for a night.
The GOP Party is in control here and don’t forget it. The working poor can go pound sand. If the working poor want a raise they should get the hell out of here instead of getting uppity! The GOP Party offers you the freedom to work for less. Vote GOP Party!
Cory, in Jason’s defense, he probably didn’t understand the details of the wage study. On the other hand, he doesn’t really want to understand any information that is contrary to his chosen viewpoint. Ignorance should not be a chosen state of mind and Jason flaunts it. Good call on the time out.
More importantly, good call on the minimum wage increase and thank you for your efforts in that regard.
It seems that this is an old, old story. Anti-labor people say a minimum wage raise will destroy businesses and jobs! Eeeek!
And it doesn’t happen. Minimum wage increases have proven to be good for the economy historically.
Morning! Common sense moment: Mandated minimum wages without understanding the profit/loss of the businesses beneath is beyond stupid.
Thank you, Darin. The Seattle study is worth reading, but to claim it somehow bears on the claims I make in this post and on South Dakota’s minimum wage policy is like saying that the environmental impacts of launching a Saturn V rocket to the Moon demonstrate why we shouldn’t shoot off fireworks in the backyard.
Morning, OS!
Language moment: “common sense” is too often a euphemism for “Haven’t read darn thing and just want to spout off to provoke a fight.”
Economics moment: There is no evidence that the folks who mandated the minimum wage in 2014 and reinforced it even more strongly in 2016 do not understand profit, loss, and other business dynamics.
Moral moment: Letting employers exploit workers and offer subminimum wages that do not provide some basic level of compensation for workers’ labor and sacrifice of liberty is immoral.
Debate moment: Three moments to one, and I’m not drinking coffee.
OldSnakeoilsalesman and Russiantroll Jason-
Stick this in yer craw and choke on it…http://fortune.com/2016/04/22/mcdonalds-benefits-wages-workers/
Here’s a twofer money shot- He added: “Customers in the U.S. are noticing a difference.” Easterbrook said customer satisfaction scores have rise 6 percentage points in the last year.
His counterparts at Walmart (wmt, -0.47%) have also said the raises (the lowest wage at Walmart is $10) at that retailer have helped lower turnover, and improved customer satisfaction by given workers more incentives. Walmart has also seen U.S. comparable sales rise for several quarters.
We love you Cory! Democrats are truly the party that cares about the working class. Power to the People for getting it done!
Again, show me how this wage increase has hurt business owners in South Dakota. Show me where this wage has caused layoffs.
Republicans cant ever possibly do anything good for the people.
South Dakota, get out and vote for Billie!
Never doubt that Kristi and the republicans will further the goal of taking away the voter initiative and referendum.
OldSarge: “Morning! Common sense moment: Mandated minimum wages without understanding the profit/loss of the businesses beneath is beyond stupid.”
Agreed! But I forgive you OldSarge. Increasing wages increases buying power increases spending increases the markets for those small businessmen.
But I don’t have to tell you that, you told us how the GOP tax cuts to the wealthy were going to stimulate wages and the economy, so all is good.
Wingnut mythology- raising the minimum wage costs workers their jobs and cutting taxes for the wealthy will increase tax revenues.
Taxcuts for the koch bros pay for themselves.
In the Oxford study “The Employment Effects of Minimum Wages” from March 2018 tells us minimum wage standards “lower the rate at which workers are hired” that mean less jobs further meaning
there are fewer low-skilled jobs available hurting the people that need the work the most. the impact of minimum wage means reduced jobs: http://economics.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780190625979.001.0001/acrefore-9780190625979-e-137
Penn Wharton analyzed the effects of the $15 Minimum Wage in Seattle in Jan 2018 and found the 1st Seattle study conducted by the University of California Berkeley (Michael Reich, Sylvia Allegretto, and Anna Godoey) placed the minimum wage increase in a favorable light but University of Washington also performed a study to evaluate the impact of the wage increase, but it produced a much more negative analysis of its effectiveness showing a significant drop in hours worked with the average worker losing $125.00/month of income. It also showed an increase of unemployment of 1.1%. http://irle.berkeley.edu/files/2017/Seattles-Minimum-Wage-Experiences-2015-16.pdf
Michael Saltsman, Employment Policies Institute (EPI) in Washington, DC, a labor policy think tank, also reviewed the Seattle study and found a lot of problems with the study itself: https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelsaltsman/2017/06/21/the-problems-with-a-new-study-on-seattles-15-minimum-wage/#48dfb69a156a
So, Cory can refer to one study he likes all day long but that does not make it accurate but here is something that is accurate; The government setting minimum wages for businesses is no different than you allowing your neighbor to control the spending in your check book without your input. Doesn’t make sense but this is what most of you are insisting upon.
An increase in the minimum wage a convenience store in Gettysburg SD does not lower the price of the goods purchased to put on the shelves. An increase in the minimum wage a convenience store in Gettysburg SD does not lower the price of electricity, heat or the fuel at the pump. An increase in the minimum wage a convenience store in Gettysburg SD does not lower the mortgage payment for the building and land. An increase in the minimum wage a convenience store in Gettysburg SD does not lower the property taxes or sales taxes. An increase in the minimum wage a convenience store in Gettysburg SD does increase the cost of wages so, the owner of the convenience store in Gettysburg SD has a choice. The owner must continue to pay for their goods, electricity, heat, fuel, mortgage, insurance, taxes and sales tax so what do they do to come up with the money needed to pay the increase wages? They have four options: 1) Cut their own standard of living to pay it to someone else, 2) Cut the hours of their present employees, 3) Lay off employees or, 4) Shut their doors and close the business.
When you are in a rural area, with limited customers, yet having the same expenses as operating in a big town but paying higher fuel and shipping cost many of these businesses will close and every closed business in a rural area means the town is closer to dying. If this is what you want for our home state so be it, but I hope you are not elected to any office so the foolish ideas you support, which are being forced on our state businesses, can be stopped from further hurting us.
Those Businesses choose to live in those ruralareas, That was their choice. Back at ya OS. If you can’t afford to pay a little extra for your employees maybe you shouldn’t be in business.
Those employees put it right back into that main street economy and you know it. They’re not hiding it overseas like the rich with their tax cuts.
I feel for employees that have to work these lowwages in South Dakota With no support from your Republican politicians.
Russian, $.25 an hour! A quarter an hour. $10.00 bucks for a 40 hour week. $520.00 a year for an employee in that rural area, assuming they work a full 40 and 52 weeks a year (not hardly in the winter time). If any business of any size can afford to have an employee, then they can afford the $500.00 a year to pay them. If they are that marginalized, then don’t hire the guy, work yourself or sell the place to new management.
Mom and pop stores are really sometimes, mom and pop stores.
I am confused (not really, I am being snarky) as to why any of this is an issue for my conservative/GOP/Trump supporter friends. When business and top level taxes were cut, the story was that this new revenue would go to workers. When regulation costs were cut, the story was that these savings would trickle down to the workers. Since both happened, we ought to be hearing our conservative/GOP/Trump supporter friends laughing about how meaningless the raise in minimum wage is because the flow of tax break money has ALREADY raised those boats above any silly “minimum wage.”
Why am I not hearing that laughter? Why am I not being shown the folly of even thinking there is any longer a need for a minimum wage now that the money is free-flowing?
Russian, you do know what is now in Martin and Kadoka and coming to other rural areas as well, Dollar Stores. Yep, Dollar Stores can see the value of rural areas and are building there. Brand new buildings! They are gonna be paying property taxes, sales taxes and city taxes to keep their doors open. Something else, they are hiring! Knowing full well that the 1st of January 2019 they will be paying a quarter an hour more in wages for their employees, imagine that! Go peddle your nonsense to Fox news listeners…, before they go shopping.
o~ The tax cuts did go back into the pockets of the workers. Ask Cory: His pay went up almost $3,000/year just due to Trumps tax cut. he didn’t jump a step, increase his education or simply get a raise. It was the “tax cut” that increased his take home pay.
OldSarge, I think you deliberately dodge my question, the point is not the effect of the tax cut on the employee, it is the effect on the business and employer who transfers his or her (or his or her business’) the tax cut money from his or her (or his or her business’) pocket to the pocket of the employee as the conservative/GOP/Trump supporters said would happen.
By the way, in fact, that extra coin in Corry’s pocket is being spent in businesses – so those businesses have the money two ways to enable them to increase wages.
It has always been the problem of conservative/GOP/Trump supporter economic rhetoric that is falls apart when the rubber hits the road of reality.
0~ “business and employer who transfers his or her (or his or her business’) the tax cut money from his or her (or his or her business’) pocket to the pocket of the employee”??
I honestly couldn’t make any sense out of it o. Can you reword it?
As far as the money Cory received due to the tax cut, yes, it is spent locally as it is my the majority of Americans who also benefited from the tax cut. But that tax cut is literally money that would have just gone to DC to be eaten by in insatiable government and honestly, if I were the decider of all things, I would rather Cory decide how to spend his pay increase than some high school graduate working in budgeting in DC. . . The tax cut directly benefits all communities.
Did the tax cuts the employers enjoyed trickle down to better employee wages?
Did the new money Cory spent go toward increasing those businesses’ employees’ wages?
And Drumpf’s tariffs are hitting small rural communities hard in lost money for farmers selling crops and higher prices on goods made in China and elsewhere.
Drumpf and OldSesamestreet have no clews how to win trade wars nor do they recognize the damage they are doing to America’s less well of.
o- the tax cut did increase wages but beyond that it allowed the worker to keep more of there own income. It was a “2-Fur”. The corporate tax cut allowed the corporation keep more of their profits to use to increase wages and for workers it allowed them to pay less on taxes, increasing their own take home pay. Since Cory works for the school he only got the benefit of the tax cut in his wages but folks who work for corporations, and the majority of corporations have less than 20 employees they were able to increase benefits such as 401k matching and wages. It was a winner for all people including Cory. It’s like you don’t think Cory deserves what he earns. He’s a freaking teacher!
Russian, many rural spouses work in these rural business places to help survive the trump economy. That raise is gonna be helpful for the family farm. Thanks Democrats!
So, if the tax cut allowed employers to pay more to the employees, why then is the minimum wage increase an issue? Shouldn’t wages have ALREADY gone up in response to the tax cuts?
The fact that increasing the minimum wage level IS increasing the employee wages exposes the lie that the tax cut increased (or would increase) wages.
Russian, as you name the rural towns, name the businesses that will be forced to close because of the quarter an hour increase in wages.
Cory can speak for himself, Snap.
Isn’t it entertaining to read Snap’s spin on the tax cuts?
Meanwhile pubs just can’t be happy with South Dakota’s lowest paid workers getting a pay increase. Go figure.
o~ The tax cut allowed the worker to pay less on money they had already earned. A higher minimum wage requires someone else to pay them more. Are you confused? Ok; say you earn $2/hr and pay 15% tax. That means you keep $1.70 of the money you received. The tax cut (for example) allows you to keep say $1.85. In the case of a wage increase; say you earn $2/hr and they raise the minimum wage to $2.05. After taxes you now get you only keep $1.74 which is more than you got without a minimum wage increase but less than you received with the tax cut. Make sense?
jenny~ Cory can speak for himself. He doesn’t need you defending him when he was never attacked. I used Cory as an example because he is a teacher and his wages are published in the school minutes. I did not release his actual earnings. You can look that up yourself.
I do have a couple of questions for you Jenny; Do you work? What type of work do you do? If you give me answers to just those two questions I can tell you approximately how much you saved or didn’t save due to the tax cuts. I’d be happy to help.
Jerry, the minimum wage increase is the government spending money that does not belong to them. It is like someone else spending out of your checkbook without your permission. Does that help you understand it?
Jenny, Cory is busy working to represent us. Thanks for tasking the Russian as he awaits his paytroll check from Putin.
Russian, the government is not spending money that will not go back to the community in which it comes from. As someone who is not a republican, I can assure you that this is an economic investment that will help South Dakota in its entirety. Thanks Democrats for standing up for the working people and for making wages equal to all.
Russian, you want to change the subject with your troll. Go collect your paytroll check from Putin and buy something before the price goes up from the tariffs.
OldEssssss …. I’ve owned many businesses and started my first one at age eleven selling nightcrawlers from my Grandma’s yard to fishermen at Pelican and Kampeska. Here’s anecdotal and empirical testimony. “Business owners don’t create jobs. Customers create jobs.”
Sarge – are you confused? This is not a discussion of take home pay, but of WAGES. Workers made minimum wage ($8.65 currently). The tax cuts “allowed their employers to pass along more in wages to them.” so their WAGES went up (from $8.65 to something more). (Pay attention – that is the conservative/GOP/Trump supporter claim we are testing).
Option A: The wages went up from minimum (as conservatives/GOP/Trump supporters claimed would happen) – then the new minimum wage level requirement is irrelevant.
Option B: The new required minimum wage will force up wages because employers did NOT pay more as promised – then the conservative/GOP/Trump supporter lie is exposed.
This is a WAGE discussion. We are testing did the conservatives/GOP/Trump supporters lie when they claimed WAGES would go up, because business would not greedily hold that wealth: it would flow to workers in WAGES. Increasing the minimum wage should be irrelevant if WAGES had increased as promised from tax cuts. Your objection for the suffering business from the new wage obligation tells me that you know the WAGE promise is a lie, was always a lie, and will be a lie when trotted out again.
trump just raised gas prices..again. Geesh, we are supposed to be the biggest energy supplier in the world and yet trump raises prices to help Putin. There goes the quarter raise, crooked devils.
Workers get a quarter raise and trump raises gas $.10 a gallon. Have you had enough yet?
OldSarg, you are now fabricating statements about my paycheck, about which you have no direct knowledge.
But OS, that distraction, as usual, does not refute my original statement: South Dakota’s minimum wage, while still not a living wage, is higher today, allowing young people to save more money for college, thanks to the efforts of Democrats like me. No one has presented any evidence that South Dakota’s young workers are making less money or getting fewer jobs.
Cory, your wages are published in the school board minutes. You are benefiting by the tune of $3,000 a year based upon your wages and the last tax cut. They use your name. They use my wife’s name. It is public record. The school board votes every year on the budget and the minutes from the meeting are public record. Seriously, did you not know that?
You will also have an extra $12,000 a year in your “standard deduction” this next year. That is another $1,200 a year into your paycheck as it effects the first $20,000 of your pay at 10%. Not for 2018 but at the end of 2019. That is when the next tax cut goes into effect.
Congratulations! Oh, I went to Sickey’s tonight and ran into a nice couple from Aberdeen. Their son played football out here tonight. Good show! Aberdeen lost by 1 point but that makes for a great game. Good job Aberdeen!
jenny, jerry I think they are the same person. Go your own way in peace brother. . . or sister. Your call.
O.K.,, down this rabbit hole: OldSarg, to prove you’re not fabricating a claim, please submit the link to the school board minutes that show you the salary you are using to calculate the tax cut you say I’ve received.
Russian, we are not the same person. Jenny presents herself as a very intelligent lady that has a clear view of what we are speaking of. Jenny is a welcome breath of fresh air especially after reading the flatulence emitted from your stinkin thinkin. Get off that Russian vodka dude, it is eating what little bit of gray matter you have left. Save up your paytroll money and buy yourself a life.
“No one has presented any evidence that South Dakota’s young workers are making less money or getting fewer jobs.”
When this law passed I decided right then and there I would never hire a kid with not an ounce of experience and be forced to pay a wage they are not worth. Since then I was forced to fire a couple college kids who weren’t worth five bucks an hour. You’re bound and determined to establish a system where people can’t learn their true monetary worth, their market value, shame on you for being proud of creating dependency and entitlement rather than let them learn how life really works.
https://aberdeen.k12.sd.us/index.html
That’s BS, camper. I would work for free or highly reduced wages (as a kid and when learning to cook in prestigious restaurants) just to get the job. As most Republicans are, you’re self-consumed. Maybe the kids were lousy workers because you’re a crappy boss. Hmmmm?
No, OldSarg, incorrect. Try again. That link takes us to the homepage of the Aberdeen School District. Show us the document that shows my salary. Tell us exactly what my salary is.
You’re making a claim about specific dollar figures. You have an obligation to show us those specific dollar figures and your source for them.
(I know, I’m giving in to an OldSarg distraction, but this is an excellent opportunity to demonstrate how to indict a source’s credibility by showing the source’s inability to back up his claim.)
camper is just another privileged hombre whose mommy and daddy gave him their business. You do know that workers can feel your disdain for them or you should know that. When you look down your nose, you show boogers to others.
You’re making my case for me Porter think about it, with high minimum wage laws what you’re describing can’t take place.
The kids told me they spent too much time in their mom’s basement in high school, seriously they told me that, playing video games. Neither had ever used basic tools and without constant attention and positive feedback they couldn’t work on their own. Getting fired was probably the best thing for them, but each right after this lost their athletic scholarships for similar reasons.
Too much Nanny State don’t help nobody.
So, is this a booming economy or what? You guys were okay with $8.85 an hour, not a whine from either. Add a quarter, and it is the end of the market. The end I tell you. What a pair.
Excuse me?? A kid can’t work for any wage she/he negotiates? Of course they can. Setting a bottom end wage is union policy not kids learning a skill at lower wages until they’re worth the going rate.
Which one of these two drove the white pickup and which one drove the red pickup? When did you find out that there was really not two boys but just the one?
PS … If it takes a kid more than 40 hours to learn a job it’s not a job for kids, in the first place.
Damn it, Jerry. That’s just plain funny.
If minimum wages are too high low-end workers will not be hired or their jobs will be automated. This is especially true for teenagers and yes, there is data to show places like McDonalds quickly began installing automated kiosks I suppose I have to find a link or it won’t be believed, but the articles were written not long after. Here you go we told you but you refused to listen: https://www.forbes.com/sites/edrensi/2018/07/11/mcdonalds-says-goodbye-cashiers-hello-kiosks/#3425aee16f14
Everyone is working on AI (not in the barnyard meaning) to automate everything. That way we don’t have to do anything but be spare parts or something. I dunno, if there are no jobs for entry level positions, then you have to do the work yourself or pay higher wages. camper, look at that, I answered your question. Why don’t you pay a higher wage and get the qualified people you demand?
Hap, Hap, Hap: don’t blame the minimum wage for the ongoing march of technology. This author is with you on the negative effects of the minimum wage but says automated burger-ordering isn’t one of them:
Consider that: kiosks could increase sales and allow companies to employ more people for other more human services.
Are the kiosk robots programmed to spit on the meat?
Sorry, Cory. I got bored and went to bed. You are a teacher with a masters (it is on your bio: https://votesmart.org/candidate/biography/168906/cory-heidelberger#.W7DKki-ZP2Q) . I am assuming you also got your +45 hrs. I would hope you have more than 10 years teaching. That would make you salary $50,600/year. Do you need the pay chart? https://aberdeen.k12.sd.us/dsc/departments/hr/agreements/Teacher%20Hiring%20Schedule%20for%202018-19.pdf
And yes, you have benefited from the last tax bill and you will benefit from the next one. Well, unless you quit and make running for office your profession.
Anyone wonder how the last wars are being paid for? We are so broke that we are having to use borrowed money.. That we will have to pay back.. to China, for one.
In order to stimulate the economic growth, we need to inject money into our system. Pay raises help to make the case. Tax cuts just add to the borrowing to pay the debt. That will then be the excuse to eliminate Social Security and Medicare as well as other social survival needs.
Workers need higher wages to keep up with the runaway federal government that the majority republicans seem to think is working for everyone…on borrowed money.
Then there is this: “On the campaign trail, Donald Trump promised to stop U.S. corporations from offshoring American jobs on “day one” of his presidency.
Just after his election, President Trump claimed to be following through on this promise when he supposedly brokered a deal to stop Carrier from sending jobs at its Indianapolis air conditioning and heating plant to a low-wage plant in Monterrey, Mexico.
This promise to save jobs proved to be nothing more than another of Trump’s false claims.
Within 18 months of Trump’s election, U.S. corporations had shipped 140,000 jobs overseas — including 700 of the jobs Trump supposedly saved at Carrier” https://otherwords.org/trump-is-subsidizing-companies-that-send-jobs-overseas/
Dusty Johnson supports this shipping of American jobs off-shore as did NOem. We must do better.
Lets take this statement apart: “Pay raises help to make the case. Tax cuts just add to the borrowing to pay the debt.”
“Pay raises help to make the case” so, if the owner of the business does not get a tax cut where do they get the money for the pay raise?
“Tax cuts just add to the borrowing to pay the debt.” this has been the platform of the Tea Party. Have you now become a Ta Party member?
Yes, that $.25 raise was a real deal tax cut necessity. Yes, a quarter an hour raise for South Dakota workers is gonna break the bank. Meanwhile, we all get to see the $12 Billion dollar Bribe that is being put out to buy the vote for Dusty Johnson and NOem. How does that all equate? It does not. Good for you workers that will get the raise, I am sorry that you will have to spend it on trump’s raising of the gas a dime a gallon.
In today’s world, when a guy claims he can’t afford to give up another dollar or all of his motivation to do business will be destroyed… that’s when you just gotta say, “F. YOU” right to their face.
If any business person is not smart enough to calculate in the cost of wages, they should find employment as an employee. Seriously, that is business 101. In fact, when you do a business plan, that is all part of your projections not only now, but into the future. Clearly those that are trolling this have never run a business from start up, they either inherited the business or they simply are trolling for rubles.
Thanks for the raise Democrats, it is still not enough to make a living on. Rent is too damn high, the cost of trump’s fuel increase is too damn high, the cost of food, the cost of utilities. We the people have not been uplifted by the fake economic growth that we hear the propaganda on. It is the economy stupid that continues to be just peachy for the rich and for the media that blows the fake horn of economic success.
“In recent decades, the nation’s tremendous economic growth has not led to broad social uplift. Economists call it the “productivity-pay gap” — the fact that over the last 40 years, the economy has expanded and corporate profits have risen, but real wages have remained flat for workers without a college education. Since 1973, American productivity has increased by 77 percent, while hourly pay has grown by only 12 percent. If the federal minimum wage tracked productivity, it would be more than $20 an hour, not today’s poverty wage of $7.25.
American workers are being shut out of the profits they are helping to generate. The decline of unions is a big reason. During the 20th century, inequality in America decreased when unionization increased, but economic transformations and political attacks have crippled organized labor, emboldening corporate interests and disempowering the rank and file. This imbalanced economy explains why America’s poverty rate has remained consistent over the past several decades, even as per capita welfare spending has increased. It’s not that safety-net programs don’t help; on the contrary, they lift millions of families above the poverty line each year. But one of the most effective antipoverty solutions is a decent-paying job, and those have become scarce for people like Vanessa. Today, 41.7 million laborers — nearly a third of the American work force — earn less than $12 an hour, and almost none of their employers offer health insurance.” New York Times 09/11/2018
jerry and adam, have either of you ever owned a business? I mean like one with employees. Not a paper route or making trinkets.
What business do you own Russian, besides the troll employee status you are presently working in? Where is it and how many employees?
Speaking of wage increase, trump just authorized the biggest pay increase ever for auto workers. These workers will get a much needed raise…in Mexico. Muchas gracias USMCA!
“There’s also a new rule that a significant percentage of the work done on the car must be completed by workers earning at least $16 an hour, or about three times what the typical Mexican autoworker makes. Starting in 2020, cars and trucks should have at least 30 percent of the work on the vehicle done by workers earning $16 an hour. That gradually moves up to 40 percent for cars by 2023.”
It’s fun to stay at the US M C A. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGizmgReKcw
jerry, the requirement for the minimum wage the Mexicans have to pay allows the USA to compete on a more equal footing.
Did you happen to see Trump has also successfully renegotiated NAFTA? Just more winning. . . so much winning to allow you to get sick of winning.
Just this last week:
Healthcare “choice” started today! Now you no longer have to pay for someone else’s birth control pills or to kill their baby.
NAFTA: Renegotiated helping the American, Mexican and Canadian economies. Higher wages for Mexico and the Canadians get to rebuild their own manufacturing industry.
South Korea: New more equitable trade agreement.
Japan: new more equitable trade agreement.
EU: New more equitable trade agreement.
North Korea: No more missiles flying, peace even closer.
Global Corporate Control of the world: You should listen to Trumps UN speech from last week. We have rejected corporate globalism
SCOTUS: 6 days and Kavanagh is in! A Constitutional majority!!!
The list continues to grow! It’s like everything Trump touches turns to gold:
I can’t wait for the new factories to come! and for farmers to finally get paid for their products!
New NAFTA is far from a sure thing with dozens of details to work out and then three nation;s governing bodies have to pass it.
As for Drumpf Don’t Care- Short-term plans are exempt from coverage mandates under the Affordable Care Act. Not having to cover those required benefits such as free preventive care, or coverage for pregnancy and mental health, allows insurers to bring down premium costs substantially.
The plans are exempt from ACA protection limits on out-of-pocket expenses, set dollar limits for coverage, and can reject consumers due to pre-existing conditions.
“There’s so little regulation of these products. It’s a buyer beware situation” said Sabrina Corlette, research professor at the Center on Health Insurance Reforms at Georgetown University. “Some of them are truly junk insurance.”
You might just as well burn the money to stay warm. You would probably stay healthier.
South Dakota, thanks to Democrats, is on the right trail for wage increases.
“(Reuters) ― Amazon.com Inc said on Tuesday it would raise its minimum wage to $15 per hour for its U.S. employees next month, as it faces criticism for pay disparity from lawmakers and labor unions.
The move comes at a time when the “Fight for Fifteen” movement — a union-led push for a $15 minimum wage — has been gaining traction in cities across the country.”
Very good news for workers at entry level. Now if we can tackle housing, and more public transportation, workers will be able to have a decent start.
mfi, All reports in from South Dakota’s two ACA individual insurers say that the ACA rates have stabilized! Woo woo.
The NAFTA, in most of the new context, was written by Barack Obama, the Black guy that I miss a lot. trump had this on his desk when Putin put him in office…It was called the TPA. trump simply re-branded it.
Bravo to Amazon!!!!!!
Here’s a funny for you, Jerry. Drumpf trade talks with Mexico insisted Mexico protect collective bargaining rights for Mexican workers, but they have gone full frontal assault on CBR and Unions in America.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/few-companies-using-tax-cuts-for-pay-hikes/
Moar empirical evidence that taxcuts for the koch bros wind up in koch bros pockets, not the workers like lying wingnuts lied about.
Where are the factories that will build stuff here gonna start being built to build stuff here? Why did trump raise the price of gas a dime a gallon, how does that help the workers?
jerry if you google it you can find the factories being built. Here’s a good starter for ya: https://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2018/05/23/where-u-s-manufacturing-is-thriving-in-2018/#597de38e53b3
Russian, new factories that are manufacturing cars, and fabrics, Iphones…you know, the stuff that China manufactures for us the US. Where are those factories being built? Why did trump raise the gas prices ten cents a gallon?
Also, that article was 4 months ago, where is the new stuff?
Looks pretty flat to me. https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/industries-fast-grow-decline-employment.htm
The growth is in service areas of healthcare mainly because we are a nation of old stinkers that need new blood to take care of us.
Better collect all the minimum wages you can because this is what is coming and it is not for the faint of heart- https://madison.com/ct/opinion/column/dave_zweifel/plain-talk-rising-debt-from-tax-cuts-threatens-our-economy/article_427864e5-0703-5749-a4ad-86dab6a9894c.html