Last updated on 2017-04-18
The local xenophobes club is bringing another anti-Islam rant session to Aberdeen tonight. The session with Clare Lopez will do nothing to advance Aberdeen’s economy or culture. It certainly will not advance fact. Part of a cluster of fact-free celebrations of bigotry happening around the state this month, this “Americans First, Task Force” program seems to serve no purpose other than to stoke an angry conservative voter base just in time for another election.
I have as little need or desire to sit through another of these dreary, un-American programs as I do to sit through a performance at the local nudie bar to know what will happen.
We know the contents of Clare Lopez’s propaganda pole dance. We can view her material on any number of filthy websites (although with the new sell-our-data law Kristi, Mike, and John voted for, I hesitate to access these sites, even for mere research).
Just as at the strip club, a woman will stand before a leering audience and peddle lies. She will tease her audience into believing that behavior that would be unacceptable in most public settings is perfectly fine in this darkened room. She will tease her viewers into thinking they are viewing deep, exotic truths that make them stronger and more manly.
Observing this spectacle serves little good; it only degrades the observer.
The viewers will go home with some vague sense of manly achievement, but they will awaken surrounded by the same disillusion, the same details of their same pathetic lives that somehow cannot be resolved by the fantasies they imbibed the previous night. And they will continue to look for opportunities to objectivize, to otherize, and to subjugate to make themselves feel better about lives that a thousand slideshows about Sharia will never change.
So go ahead, Aberdeen, let Clare Lopez hypnotize you with her twirling pasties about Muslim conspiracies and Joseph McCarthy. Let her stroke your dark, sweaty fears. And be sure to let us know when you wake up tomorrow how listening to these lies makes you a better person and Aberdeen a better town.
But understand if the rest of us look away from your embarrassing lies.
Related Reading:
- Take Clare Lopez’s rantings about the infiltration of the United States government by the Muslim Bortherhood, strike “Muslim Brotherhood” and insert “Zionists,” and you get exactly the same paranoid propaganda peddled by anti-Semites like Rudy Stanko.
- A study in California finds that the state’s program of allowing illegal immigrants to take driving tests and get driver’s licenses resulted in 4,000 fewer hit-and-run incidents. But hey, evidence-based policy doesn’t jazz the lizard brain nearly as much as a good pole dance.
- The Aberdeen High School Democrats will protest the Clare Lopez event this evening from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. outside the Dakota Event Center. These young people represent the better side of our fair city. Please join them on the sidewalk, or at least give them a friendly honk and wave as you pass them on your way to dinner or Target or Walmart.
You going Cory?
Good to see students get invoved in issues that will surely affect their lives someday.
In Pittsburg, Kansas 6 members of the journalism class ran an investigation on new principal because her resume sounded unusual. They found out her degrees (3) came from a diploma mill. She resigned but later claimed the so called school actually was accredited when she attended back when. The students got hearty congrats from some main stream journalists. Maybe they should investigate why the school board didn’t know any of this stuff. Go Kids. You are the future. Just stay sober and off winguts.
Owen, documenting Lopez’s performance will do no more good for me or the community than documenting whatever happens on stage at the Silver Dollar tonight.
I may stop by to document the work of the HS Dems in standing for real American values.
Lopez name might suggest immigration status at one point in time. Something to consider.
She sounds dangerous:
Clare M. Lopez is a strategic policy and intelligence expert with a focus on Middle East, national defense, WMD, and counterterrorism issues. Specific areas of expertise include Islam and Iran. Lopez began her career as an operations officer with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), serving domestically and abroad for 20 years in a variety of assignments, and acquiring extensive expertise in counterintelligence, counternarcotics, and counterproliferation issues with a career regional focus on the former Soviet Union, Central and Eastern Europe and the Balkans. She has served in or visited over two dozen nations worldwide, and speaks several languages, including Spanish, Bulgarian, French, German, and Russian, and currently is studying Farsi.
Now a private consultant, Lopez also serves as Vice President of the non-profit forum, The Intelligence Summit, and is a Professor at the Centre for Counterintelligence and Security Studies (CI Centre), where she teaches courses on the Iranian Intelligence Services, and the expanding influence of Jihad and Sharia in Europe and the U.S. She is affiliated on a consultant basis with DoD contractors that provide clandestine operations training to military intelligence personnel. Lopez was Executive Director of the Iran Policy Committee, a Washington, DC think tank, from 2005-2006. She has served as a Senior Scientific Researcher at the Battelle Memorial Institute; a Senior Intelligence Analyst, Subject Matter Expert, and Program Manager at HawkEye Systems, LLC.; and previously produced Technical Threat Assessments for U.S. Embassies at the Department of State, Bureau of Diplomatic Security, where she worked as a Senior Intelligence Analyst for Chugach Systems Integration.
Lopez received a B.A. in Communications and French from Notre Dame College of Ohio (NDC) and an M.A. in International Relations from the Maxwell School of Syracuse University. She completed Marine Corps Officer Candidate School (OCS) in Quantico, Virginia before declining a commission in order to join the CIA. Lopez is a member of the Board of Directors for the Institute of World Affairs and also serves on the Advisory Board for the Intelligence Analysis and Research program and as an occasional guest lecturer at her undergraduate alma mater, NDC. She has been a Visiting Researcher at Georgetown University and a guest lecturer on terrorism, national defense, international relations, and Iran there, at the FBI Academy in Quantico, VA, and the National Defense Intelligence College in Washington, D.C. Lopez is a regular contributor to print and broadcast media on subjects related to Iran, Islam, counterterrorism, and the Middle East and is the co-author of two published books on Iran.
nice sanitized bio, sarge. ted cruz has a sterling resume too, sarge but he idiotically toasts pig meat on his ar15.
clare is”…a widely cited right-wing conspiracy theorist with ties to a number of hawkish policy institutes who formerly worked as a CIA operations officer.”
“Lopez was reportedly fired from the Gatestone Institute for promoting a controversial book by the right-wing author Diana West—who claimed (among other things) that the U.S. alliance with the Soviet Union against the Nazis was due to a Communist infiltration of the U.S. government.”
a columnist for the Philip Anschultz-owned Washington Examiner quoted her, “the FBI and local police need to be more aggressive in gathering intelligence in places that people like the [bombing suspect] Tsarnaevs gather, including mosques. The New York police were doing a great job in this regard until Muslim special-interest pressure groups got them to back down. Lopez contends that the FBI is now trained to avoid that sort of operation.”[12]
According Lopez, the Obama administration sought to make Iran the “nuclear power hegemon of the entire Persian Gulf region.”[17] She denounced the July 2015 Iran nuclear deal as supposedly obligating “the U.S. to both ‘assist’ and ‘encourage’ (not to mention ‘defend’) the Iranian regime’s nuclear weapons program.”[18]
as usually, cory, hole in one. sarge-triple bogey:)
click on this website but the net is initially blocked/hacked in her favor… as sarge is trying to mislead us. “why am I not surprised” a troll is a troll is a troll, paid or otherwise. (salutes)
rightweb.irc-online.org › Profiles
Sarge, while Ms. Lopez may claim “extensive expertise in counterintelligence, counternarcotics, and counterproliferation issues,” I think her expertise is really in the realm of counter-factual as in counter to the facts. But as George Costanza said, “It’s not a lie if you believe it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ
Cory, you are the dangerous one. Your hate is unreal and will someday consume you. How in the world can you be around children when you are talking about a woman and making her sound like a awful person. You should be banned from teaching in the school system, your behavior is appalling. If I had children in school I would make sure you NEVER would teach your vitriol, sulfuric ideas. You are evil incarnate… [edited to leave my family out of the discussion].
Hilarious, Pat. Hyperbole and personal attack exemplified. You have no logical response to my critique of the program, so you try to impugn my character and damage my career.
I do hate falsehoods. Should I love falsehood instead?
Frankly, by praising Joseph McCarthy and spreading lies, Clare Lopez engages in pretty awful conduct. My critique of her conduct poses no danger to children. Her fearmongering and falsehoods do pose a danger to children.
All that said, Pat, I agree with your letter to the editor last August that Aberdeen’s rail crossings are far too rough. Help me understand how the conspiracy that Lopez and Willson described last night among “the U.S. Council of Muslim Organizations, Black Lives Matter and Alinskyite Anarchists” has contributed to our bad railroad crossings and how stopping these evil forces will improve our roads.
Hi Pat Koeniguer, can you reconcile this for me?
“It’s hypocrisy to call yourself a Christian and chase away a refugee or someone seeking help, someone who is hungry or thirsty, toss out someone who is in need of my help,” he said. “If I say I am Christian, but do these things, I’m a hypocrite.”
http://www.catholicnews.com/services/englishnews/2016/christians-who-reject-all-refugees-are-hypocrites-pope-says.cfm
Hypocrisy is a sin. Fear is a weakness.
Dear Jana, I am as much a Christian as the next person, and what right do you have to say I am not. That is not very Christian. Muslims are not christians and if you would Just listen to what the “other” side is saying you might come to understand us better. But your mind set is your way or the highway, we can’t change your narrow minds, because you are not willing to listen to what we are trying to accomplish. I feel for your children in the world to come.
My dear Cory,
I write about a lot of issues that would make our town a better place. Rough streets being one of them that is true, but health and safety are also a major concern for me, and you sir are a very dangerous man. You write with such hate I cannot understand where you are getting it from. You must be a very sad and depressed individual. I will pray to my God for you. I fear you teaching in the schools here.
We have listened to the other side, Pat. I have reviewed Clare Lopez’s statements. I cannot trust a woman whose claims of vast conspiracies (a) have no evidence, (b) sound like they are cribbed from white-supremacist/anti-semitic screeds, and (c) rely on saying Joe McCarthy was right. This isn’t about some Biblical conflict and saving the world; this is about people who prefer hate and lies over plain fact.
[Pat: your comments will appear more quickly if you use the same name each time. If you keep changing your name (Pat, Pati, etc.), it will keep going to the moderation queue.]
Now, drop your condescension. Don’t call me dear when you don’t mean it. Don’t pretend to “pray” for me when you obviously extend no Christian respect toward me. Stop pretending that I’m really some pitiable sad and depressed person, because anyone who has actually met me will tell you I’m not (again, you exhibit that tendency to prefer wishers over evidence). There’s no hate here, just a passion for truth.
Pray for bigger things than my soul. I’ll be fine without your displays of fake piety.
Talks of pole dancing, strip bars, etc is not damaging to anyone? You could have used many different examples to get your point across but instead you chose a VERY tacky and demeaning way to describe the meeting. I went to become better informed about the refugees coming here, but because I have questions and opinions I am a hater? I will show everyone I can your article and you sir have damaged your own career.
And most importantly, Pat Koeniguer, get back to the issue: instead of having your satisfying personal argument about me, why not talk about what Clare Lopez actually says? Why not tell us how anything talked about at last night’s pole dance has any practical impact on the real problems that face our community? You dodge with your personal insults because you evidently lack the ability to talk policy. You’re the most dangerous person in this conversation: a misinformed and misinforming citizen who just wants to throw hate and fear at neighbors you don’t like instead of talking about practical problems and solutions.
Hi Pat,
The quote wasn’t from me, it is from the Pope. I would never question someone’s Christianity.
If you were offended, I guess you should either look at your actions or take it up with his Holiness.
Hi Jana, if you are quoting the pope, do you think he would be pleased by the rhetoric used by Cory in the article? [CAH: another edit, as Pat Koeniguer inappropriately attempts to distract by involving my family in this discussion.]
If I had school age children I would be delighted to have Cory as their teacher. They could learn how to do extensive research on subjects they were passionate about and how to use that research on how to express themselves.
There isn’t a doubt in my mind that these anti-Muslim groups are as dangerous as the KKK, any group that is fueled by hate and fear are capable of inciting violence.
For as long as I have been reading Dakota Free Press I have never seen Cory suggest violence or any action that is illegal and that can harm people.
The immigrants and refugees that reside in Aberdeen must live in fear of the Christians should be protecting them.
Mr. Koeniguer, I, too, often feel the hate seething inside of Mr. H’s writings, for sometimes you can almost sense the rage slapping out at you from the bloggings that so globally condemn entire groups. However I think that when his career was teaching and not blogging he was thought of as a very good teacher, maybe even level 6 of the 7 indisputable levels of teachers. I do not know what he did that caused issues with the Aberdeen schools or even other schools if there were issues, but I can tell he really likes to teach kids and is pretty good at it. People have said the kids like him. I say he should get another chance. He would be so much better for the people of Aberdeen teaching the young’uns over trying to be in the legislatures where he would only be entertainment.
Too bad about your streets. Aberdeen is pretty flat so you probably just need to get some bigger tires.
Ms. Koeniguer, perhaps. If so, my apologies, if your name is actually Patricia or Patrice.
Men do not go to strip clubs to become better informed about female anatomy. People don’t go to hear Clare Lopez and ACT for America to get better informed about refugees or Islam. In both cases, these pole dances are conducted to titillate, to arouse people’s darker impulses. The analogy is perfectly apt. Pat Koeniguer, if you’re uncomfortable with the comparison, it’s because deep down you recognize the uncivil, unneighborly, unhealthy behavior in which you and your fellow attendees are engaged.
I am very dangerous… to people who maintain bigoted, prejudiced, racist worldviews and don’t want them challenged by people whom they have to look in the eye at the grocery store. Pat apparently perceives an enormous threat to her fragile worldview and doesn’t want people discussing the real moral content of her beliefs. This challenge to her narrow-minded worldview makes her feel like a frightened child; thus, she projects that personal fear onto these strange accusations against my ability to teach children. She’s not worried about children; she’s worried about the threat to her own bigotry.
Clare Lopez is an exceptional analyst and expert on Middle East…..20+ years. This article is by some liberal left wing nut job and probably a member Society of unprofessional journalism which put away objective interviews on anything Islam over a decade ago.
God bless the Clare Lopez est of America!
Funny how the blind followers of Lopez, Trump, and CSP will swallow lies but fail to grasp metaphor. I guess that demonstrates their complete inability to read critically, not to mention their continued commitment to rhetoric that never advances beyond “Our team is great, your team sucks!” to really discuss the facts of the matter. Again, consistently, people like Lopez, Pat Koeniguer, and Randy focus on fabricating portraits of their “enemies” as evil, inferior beings (“probably a member Society of unprofessional journalism”) instead of dealing with reality.
Randy! Finally someone else who sees the man for what he really is. If he can’t win an argument he just stars flinging big words around hoping to incite anger. Well Cory your metaphor was appallingly inelegant and used for the only reason to gain attention. I hope that more people see you for who you really are…….and when they do I hope they will stand with Randy and I and speak up. Maybe it is time to pick up the gauntlet you have thrown down.
That’s the beauty of America; you aren’t FORCED to SIT through a presentation of FACTS from Subject Mattet EXPERTS. Please show where this intel expert is wrong or is this just part of a porn fantasy of yours, Cory?
I live in St Cloud MN and I am a Christian, the muslim population here is overwhelming, they take over complete schools. The parents have pulled their children out of these schools due to the fact the schools are forcing kids to learn the muslim prayers but are not allowed to show any other Christian denomination. Our property taxes keep going up to cover the cost of the added interpreters needed to teach the muslims. Our home values in these school districts, are below what they should be because any one with kids don’t want their kids to have to go to these schools. The police sirens are non stop to the muslim filled apartments. Our local mall was the one where a muslim stabbed 10 innocent people. I do not see where they are contributing to our society or our community. I am not a hater but the rape and crime has become overwhelming for our police force. I should not be afraid to go to the grocery store alone, but I am now, there have been many attacks right in broad daylight to innocent people and they have all been muslims. I guess we don’t give them enough. My neighbor use to walk in the park next to our neighborhood but he was attacked by a gang of them and he was told to stay out of that park, it now belonged to them and they spit in his face. How does this contribute to our community? I feel bad for Aberdeen and South Dakota in general, if you allow what has happened here to come to your community. They are filthy disgusting people who have no respect for Americans and the crimes they commit against their own children is horrible. They let 9 yr old girl children marry 80 year old men. In my world we call that a pedophile. They also mutilate baby girls genitals in the name of their ideology. That is disgusting!! We don’t need them here, animals don’t treat their young that horrible.
“appallingly inelegant”—actually, that makes my metaphor for Lopez’s propaganda all the more apt. An elegant metaphor would have misportrayed her presentation and those who fall for it.
“Who I really am”—again, you’re more concerned about making this about me than about the issues, and you continue to try to conjure up a bogeyman who doesn’t exist but who makes your conceits easy instead of the real person whom you will see at Kessler’s.
I have just one question for all you christians out there…….What do YOU do for the refugees when they come here? Do you open your homes to them? Do you feed them? Do you clothe them? Do you give them money when they are in need? Do you teach them about America? What do YOU personally do for them?
And it is so good to hear some of the other messages that we are seeing, standing up against the hatred that seeths from this column.
Cory, I don’t understand your last sentence of your last post……..are you working at Kessler’s?
My meaning is clear to people not committed to ignoring normal neighborly behavior: We both live in Aberdeen. We both buy groceries and run other errands around town. We are real people, bound to see each other at mundane places, doing mundane things, just like the newcomers to town whom Clare Lopez would make us think are demons coming to take over our country. To avoid vilifying you, I try to remind myself that you are also that flesh-and-blood neighbor across the produce aisle, as interested as I am and as our fellow immigrants are in getting a good deal on strawberries or apples or whatever you like to put in your cart.
Pat Koeniguer
What are your opinions of refugees? I do not want assume anything until you respond to my querry if you can.
To Clare Hart,
I have nothing against the refugees who come here wanting a better life. Making America their home is everyone’s right. Become citizens, learn our language, embrace our way of life. Assimilate. But LLS and other churches are bringing refugees over here with out vetting them properly. If they aren’t in our data bases, (how can they be) they assume the they are fine, and we have seen what the assumptions have brought us. Murders, rapists, haters of women. Those are the refugees I don’t want gracing our town. Mayor Leveson says they do the jobs we don’t want to do, he says the crime rate has not risen. These are falsehoods. You don’t see refugees who have a stake in Aberdeen, with their homes and work causing the problems, you see it with the refugees who are not knowledgeable about our way of life and don’t care to learn. I don’t see any professional refugees praying in the parking lot at Ken’s Fairway. Thanks for asking the question and listening. The “hate” group in Aberdeen is NOT a hate group, we just want to protect our community from the radical refugees that are committing crimes against our citizens. And to see an article like this is very distressing to me as a Christian and a woman.
Pat Koeinguer continues to get facts wrong.
(1). It’s Clara, not Clare. Read.
(2) “Assimilate”—that’s the mantra of the Borg. It’s also racist code for, “Straighten up and fly White.”
(3) Refugees are vetted. LSS and other churches are not part of any conspiracy to destroy Pat’s Whitopia. Pat seems to be more anti-church than the atheist writing this blog.
(4) “Murders, rapists, haters of women”—”haters” is a silly word. Try “misogynist”… and then demonstrate to me how any immigrant community has cornered the market on misogyny. I think we can find plenty of misogyny in White Christian America with our abortion restrictions making women second-class citizens, our unequal pay, and (everything comes together) our strip clubs.
(5) “Those are the refugees I don’t want gracing our town”—Pat K, have you spoken to any refugees or immigrants in our town? Have you found any them conforming to the bogeymen you fabricate to justify your fears?
(6) Mayor Levsen is absolutely correct about the job situation—I don’t see the gray-haired people attending the Branstner/Lopez Klan meetings lining up to work at the beef plant or the dairies or the turkey plant in Huron or any of those other places.
(7) Has the crime rate risen? Remember, that’s not number of crimes; that’s crime per population. Show me numbers, not just your bogeyman assertions, and then show me that the people you fear are committing a dispropotionate number of those crimes.
(8) “praying in the parking lot”—ah, so again, pat is anti-religion. Who is harmed by a prayer in the parking lot? Are we not done the same harm by bumper stickers saying God is somehow against Darwin and evolution? Do you want to take your religious hate to its logical conclusion, Pat?
(9) The hate group is a hate group. The people attending those meetings are filled with hate and rage. I have seen it, heard it, felt it. The people attending those meetings crave reinforcement of their xenophobia, their prejudice, their racism, and when challenged, they get angrily, violently defensive, because deep down, they know their racism is immoral.
(10) “radical refugees”—where? Who? How many? Show us.
(11) To see a Christian woman who will swallow and regurgitate such lies is very distressing to me. To see a Christian woman who would throw personal insults to distract from discussing the facts is very distressing to me.
Excellent and well stated points Cory.
Assimilation is a foolish experiment that does not work, the federal government has been attempting force assimilation on us Indians for centuries.
Assimilation kills cultures and the melting pot blends all.
Pat Koeniguer argues for more severe vetting of people who want to live and work in Aberdeen. Perhaps she has a point – new comers need to go through a similar vetting process as Pat and her family did. If she will elaborate on how she and her family were vetted, then we can consider using a similar process to vet newcomers.
Nobody vetted me before I came to Aberdeen, bearcreekbat, and look at all the chaos that has ensued! I obviously have refused to assimilate into local cultural practices like hunting, fishing, attending sporting events, and saying “under God” during the Pledge of Allegiance. Clearly someone should have turned me away at the armed gate on Highway 12. Clearly.
Or maybe Roger C’s people should have turned away all of us white folks who refused to assimilate. Uh oh—if we think about history, then pole-dancer Lopez and her devotés aren’t really establishing a moral position; they’re just advocating force by majority rule: We won’t let Muslims take over our country the way we took over Indian Country! We’ll use our power to keep foreigners out or force them to turn white like us or else! That’s what “assimilation” means when Lopez and Pat K say it, and that’s not a morally palatable position.
Grudz, “the melting pot” is another term for “assimilation.” The idea of democratic pluralism is not that we force everyone into one (white) mold. The idea is that we find ways to work with or at least around our diversity to make the system work fairly for everyone. That’s not easy, but it’s preferable to making everyone act like some (white) ideal.
Look up the word vilify, that is exactly what Cory does when he starts spouting his hate. Anything he can say to put people with different views down, is exactly how low he will stoop. Look up the word assimilate, it means to know about something, not become that something. Then look up the word hate mongering and that is what this website is all about.
And in reply to “bear creek bat” my family on both sides homesteaded in South Dakota and Minnesota. We have been here for a very long time. And don’t you think all the people who came to this country from Europe weren’t vetted? Look at the history of Ellis Island, but then I suppose you will find something hateful about that too. If you don’t like our laws and privileges try a third world country for a time.
And again to bearcreekbat …..my ancestors came from Europe and they came through Ellis Island. They were vetted, they became citizens and were PROUD to call themselves Americans. And after they became citizens and had children those children did not have to be vetted because they were AMERICANS. They were Lutherns, Catholics, Jews and they were grateful for the freedom America gave the them. I am proud to be an American, I wish you were too.
I am proud to be an American. I’ve lived in other countries and chose to come back every time. Do not question my or Bearcreekbat’s or anyone else’s commitment to our country. I am so proud of my country that I want to share it with all willing comers and show them we are the greatest, most fearless nation in the world. You, Pat, make our country look small and weak.
Mr. H, I am proud you are an American too.
If “melting pot” = “assimiliation” then mixed-race marriages that result in children = “assimilation.” I, for one, do not believe that love = assimilation. I also believe that over time, the bloodlines of all will become mixed and diluted, until one day there is a single race of dark beige skinned brunettes. The DBSB race will become the majority across much of the face of the earth. This thought, when I once shared it with Mr. Howie when he was running for Governor, really frightened him almost to the point of anger.
My friend Lar would call it “absorbtion.” The smaller the population of any given race, the faster they will become absorbed. That’s just regular math.
Keep up your capricious malevolence, keep poking the bear.
I am proud to be American too, I am not proud of what America has become under the direction of republican president trump.
I act on no caprice. What bear, and what action will that bear take if poked? (If the people at the Klan meetings are a bear, they have poking coming.)
If the klan is the bear, Marlboro Barbie sez it is okay to kill them in the den with the little ones, too.
Pat made me laugh with the hot one about her ancestors being vetted. First and second class travelers just got off the boat. Third class, some of my people, had health questions as well as being asked if you were Irish, Italian, or Jewish. If you were any one of that bunch, you may have to be granted immigration for a price. Vetted meant the same then as Mike Rounds EB5 recent caper. You got the money, you get a pass. You don’t have the money we are gonna deport your arse. http://classroom.synonym.com/process-did-immigrants-through-arrived-ellis-island-late-1800s-9519.html
BTW, what about those American children that have been born in this country from immigrants, are they any less American than you are Pat? What about those immigrant children that have put the uniform on and served their country America, and gave their all? Are they any less American than you. Sorry that you are so bitter. This country gave you much but you do not want to give anything back. That is stingy and Un-American.
Absorption is one of the ways toxic chemicals find their way into human bodies. That isn’t math.
On marriage and mixing: Grudz, back at SDSU, when I was raging against the College of Education’s poorly thought-out multiculturalism, I contended that after a few more generations of folks marrying different folks, racial and ethnic divisions would break down. Same thing goes for today’s immigrants. But it doesn’t work by everyone becoming white like Pat (thank goodness). We all change. The nation changes. Life goes on.
Good point about “vetting”, Jerry. Pat is just making stuff up, not speaking of the actual experience of anyone entering this country, past or present. Such is the M.O. of Clare Lopez: say things that confirm angry, fearful worldviews, and ignore the facts that threaten those uninformed worldviews. It’s a living… and a racket, just like Annette Bosworth’s masquerade in 2014.
Just to add an update to Pat’s immigration comments and vetting. She says the earliy immigrants were “Lutherns, Catholics, Jews . . . grateful for the freedom America gave the them.” I guess there is a reason she omitted Muslims:
http://cis.org/USMuslimImmigrants
What an interesting history – Muslims were brought here as slaves and our early ancestors did everything they could to destroy the Muslim religion.
Let’s throw flammable questions on the hate Muslim fire-
http://www.businessinsider.com/first-muslim-woman-us-judge-found-dead-in-new-yorks-hudson-river-2017-4
Who killed her and was it a hate crime?
or did she drown accdently?
There is no winning with you guys, you are so narrow minded in your thinking I am appalled. All along I have stated if you come here and are not illegal you are just as much a citizen as I am. But if you come here and don’t want to become a citizen and commit crimes, go home. What is there about that statement, which I have voiced before, that you don’t get? I’m done tilting at windmills, you guys have blinders on and someday you will see and wonder what happened.
There’s no winning when you make a losing argument, Pat K. Clare Lopez didn’t come to speak about illegal immigration. She came to say Muslims are engaged in an international conspiracy with teh help of patsies in the American government and people like me. That’s what you’re really saying. That’s why you’re wrong.
Lutheran Social Services does a very good job of resettling immigrants to St. Cloud, Minn. http://www.sctimes.com/story/news/local/immigration/2016/01/10/fact-check-how-many-refugees-live-here/78415922/
The Dakota War, August 17, 1862 was started right there in your hamlet as well so it seems that your Christian beliefs fail to understand the facts of history regarding immigrants (you). BTW, I think that Michelle Bachmann is waiting to here from you.
From Madison Capital Times Letter to the Editor-
Dear Editor: “If Trump is moved by the suffering of Syria’s people, how can he keep blocking refugees from our shores?”
The excerpted question, above, was posed by E.J. Dionne in his recent column in the Cap Times.
Does Dionne not realize that the suffering of Syria’s people took place on their shores, in their country? Refusing/blocking refugees attempting acceptance in our country is quite another matter.
It seems that Dionne doesn’t understand that and/or that the U.S. has good reason to not want to become involved in the situation
Howz that for wingnut logic? Military presence and bombing is not getting involved? YIKES!
Applause, applause, Cory. I am terrified what this country is becoming since Mr. Trump first announced he was running for office. He has legitimized bigotry and hatred in a way I have never seen before. If Ms. K is such a Christian woman, perhaps she should review John 13:34.
For those of us not well-versed in Bible quotes, Vicki cites this line (NIV): “[34] A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. [35] By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”
Pat Koeniguer,
have you met a Muslim? Do you have a Muslim Friend? Have you visited a Muslim Mosque?
Have you ate with Muslims? Have you helped a Muslim? our Mosques in Sioux Falls are open to the public to see, talk, and visit with Muslims from all over the world.
you may be surprised how mush commons between our faiths.
please let me know if you want to visit with Sioux Falls Muslims, and I will make sure a professional Muslim Female/ Doctor/ lawyer/teacher/business woman meets with you !!
Mohamed Sharif,
Are you the Mohamed Sharif who runs the Sioux falls mosques who received 4 life sentences for sex trafficking? are you writing from your jail cell?
I have met many Muslims, I have friends who profess to be Muslims (who due to Sharia Law would be declared apostate and killed in Muslim Countries because they do no obey Islamic Law), those who do obey Sharia are waging war against non-Muslims to establish the religion according to it defined definition. Interesting if the action is obligatory and Jihad and Hijrah or migration to conquer enemy lands…then lying to further those goals is obligatory. So no matter how nice a sharia adherent Muslim may appear, they may be showing friendship outwardly and never inwardly (the heart) according to koranic Scripture and lying by law.
Randy,
If you had done a complete job of research you would have found out that it was Mohammed Sharif Alaboudi that was imprisoned for sex trafficking. It appears you picked the first negative thing you could find on Mr. Sharif and chose to run with it.
I believe Mr. Shaif is a medical professional in Sioux Falls, of course, I could be wrong.
Another historical tidbit regarding Muslims and the bunk preached by those who claim to have Muslim “friends”. Iran has not invaded a country since 1776, more or less, while we here in the West have been at war since 1776. A long perpetual slide into force feeding our system upon theirs. http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/12/we-re-at-war-and-we-have-been-since-1776/ We have invaded Mexico so many times that I am surprised the Mexicans did not “build that wall”. Randy M goes on about Muslims invading other Muslims but much of that, if not all, had to do with the Colonial powers dividing up the Mid East along fake lines in the shifting sands there. What has always been the problem with Muslims has been the disintegration of Palestine. The theft of a democratically elected president in Iran with the installation of a puppet regime for the oil. Whoever thought that was a good idea? Why didn’t the western powers demand a homeland for the Kurds (genocide, with American chemical warfare participation with Sadam )? How about the Gypsies (genocide, Holocaust) ? Why the Jewish people only (genocide, Holocaust) ? Guilt?
The United States and the rest of the West have colonized, stolen, enslaved, degraded and ignored most of the world until we need something there. Then we make them to boogeyman. We taxpayers destroyed the countries in the Mid East so we could steal the oil. Time for us to take care of our responsibilities to those we have displaced.
Anyone seen trump in church? I only see him on the golf course looking and bowing to the East. Is he a Muslim like Obama only a white Muslim instead of a black Muslim? We know trump was not born in the United States http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-birth-certificate-birther-2011-3#ixzz1Hzs6kYkb His bestest pals seem to be in bed with him with the hotels in Muslim countries (Hello Turkey). Could the America First, Task Force be a cover for Sharia Law? How clever that gal might be, duped by the dope. Could the travel ban on Muslims have been more screwed up and fake?
Roger C., thanks for that note. We have far too many people like Randy who leap at the chance to attack a person instead of discussing the issues at hand.