Sutton, Bushes Understand White Supremacists Un-Christian, Un-American

Senator Billie Sutton puts his outrage at the white-supremacist violence in Charlottesville in Biblical terms:

White supremacists brought violence and bigotry to a small Virginia town. They came on a mission to spread their message of hate, attack those they deemed beneath them, and they even killed an innocent woman.

This event is just more proof that we must come together around our shared values of kindness and empathy and not allow these actions to take hold of our country. We must be better than this.

During this difficult time, I find these words powerful:

“But the one who hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going because the darkness has blinded his eyes.” 1 John 2:11
[Sen. Billie Sutton, campaign e-mail, 2017.08.16]

If Democrats can read the Bible and see the proper focus for outrage at the Charlottesville violence, why can’t the evangelicals’ favored savior in the White House?

Two Republicans who previously occupied the White House are able to recognize the incompatibility of white supremacy with our founding document:

America must always reject racial bigotry, anti-Semitism, and hatred in all its forms. As we pray for Charlottesville, we are reminded of the fundamental truths recorded by that city’s most prominent citizen in the Declaration of Independence: we are all created equal and endowed by our Creator with unalienable right. We know these truths to be everlasting because we have seen the decency and greatness of our country [Former Presidents George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, statement, quoted in Alex Ward, “Presidents George Bush and G. W. Bush Issue Joint Statement Condemning Racism and Anti-Semitism,” Vox, 2017.08.16].

The Bible, the Declaration of Independence, and dangerous evil of white supremacy are clear. A man who cannot read those documents, see such clear danger, and speak in a way that rallies all Americans to unity against that danger is not qualified to be a political leader in the United States of America.

Donald Trump, I call on you to resign from the Presidency. Presidents Bush, Senator Sutton, my fellow Americans, I urge you to join me in this call.

For the good of the country, Donald Trump, resign.


72 Responses to Sutton, Bushes Understand White Supremacists Un-Christian, Un-American

  1. The democrat police chief Al S. Thomas Jr. didn’t stop it, the democrat mayor Michael Signer did nothing, the democrat governor Terry McAuliffe stood to the side, but you found it is somehow Trump’s fault. . .

    Honestly, how is it that the local leadership, police and those in political power that easily could have called in their forces to stop the murder did nothing but you work so hard to blame the president? Lost the path of logic on your way?. . .

  2. Granted: show me cops or other public officials who didn’t do their duty, and I’ll call for their resignation, too.

    So you agree, then, that the President should resign for failing to do his clear duty?

  3. They had a permit that was first revoked and then because of civil rights, they were allowed to demonstrate at the park only. Of course they are like you oldsarge, Nazi’s and you cannot tell a Nazi a thing because well..you would know. Here is how that transpired. http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/local/judge-allows-unite-the-right-rally-to-stay-in-emancipation/article_9965d0be-7ee6-11e7-ab0e-f342e0cf9488.html

    You can start at the top and read down left to right to see that all of those mentioned including Homeland Security, had expressed their professional opinions that it was wrongheaded. But..a judge ruled differently. We are a land of laws sir, so there is that. The blame still lies squarely on donald j. trump, the head Nazi.

  4. Billie Sutton has shown proven leadership with this declaration. He even supports himself with that declaration with a Biblical passage. I wait with baited breath, to hear NOem and see what her defense of white nationalism is from the Good Book. How would Jesus handle racists/Nazi’s? Well, I know. I saw Indiana Jones take care of that.

  5. Roger Cornelius

    The Bush’s have earned my respect over the years and even Junior has a warm place I my heart even with his really bad decisions with the wars.

    The Bush’s are long time friends with the Clinton’s and Bush, Jr. really liked the Obama’s, Junior clearly had a great affection for Michelle.

    But most of all I like the Bush’s because they refused to attend the Trump inaugural, an almost unheard of display by presidents refusing to attend the inaugural of a president from their own party.

  6. Trump lied and legitimized Nazis, says Vox, further justifying my call for Donald Trump’s resignation.

  7. Roger Cornelius

    As I understand it, that wizard guy, David Duke, had a full mental meltdown after Trump issued his statement Monday. Maybe Trump had to change his position again to pacify Duke.

  8. Everyone is saying that trump is at fault https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYbkKm74W3k Republicans that have been tied to other past administrations, call him a disgrace and Nazi sympathizer at best. The only ones who think that trump is not at fault and not a white supremacist are you oldsarge and NOem, Thune, Rounds and Daugaard along with the rest of the phonies who want public office here in South Dakota. You folks should be ashamed, but that would make you seem kind of normal.

  9. This just in: Trump announces first two books for Precedential Library;
    “Mein Kampf” and “The Art of the Deal.” \s

  10. Roger Cornelius

    buckobear

    You’d think that Trump would dump the two coloring books from his personal library.

  11. mike from iowa

    Wingnuts appear to like Putin more than Drumpf.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/16/poll-republicans-putin-russia-confidence-241701

    Former CIAchief Brennan issued a heartfelt apology to Wolf Blitzer over Drumpf’s Nazi comments. All 4 of Blitzer’s Grandparents died in the Holocaust.

  12. Either a guy calls the attempted mass-murder a “domestic terrorist attack” or he’s not representing me, the Lord, nor the United States of America.

    You either hold the same standard for radical Islamic terror attacks as you do ones committed by white supremacists or I will grab you by the pussy and lead you to water, and I will not let go your crotch until you choose to drink.

  13. Anything less is truly uncivilized.

  14. mike from iowa

    I’d be happy if the bible was ditched for something more modern and less prone to e used as a crutch or a vehicle to attack others.

    No one is under obligation to the bible-whichever brand you choose, however it is interpreted and/or rewritten.

  15. I want to be extra clear. Billie just doesn’t see this issue the way this 2 fisted, line drive to left center feild, kind of guy (myself) sees the issue.

    There’s a time for the Bible, and there’s also a time put that thing down and pick up a pen or a sword. If you choose the pen, you better call an ideology driven mass murder attempt “terrorism” or I just can’t relate to your double standard for Islam.

    Double standards are the root of all racism. Perhaps Billy has a double standard for Islamic terror attack then he does White Supremacists or Alt. Chriatians? Perhaps he’s a little more Alt. Christian then we all thought. Time will tell – if we press for these answers.

  16. The senior GOP leaders that will not walk to the White House , take his hand and keys and lead him to his crib are true and utter “COWARDS” . Period …….

    Enough said

  17. Yeah, let’s vote for a guy who has different standards for different religions – in America.

    All a guy has to do is call himself a White Nationalist when he attempts a mass murder and it’s unclear if Billie might consider that domestic terrorism.

    If ANYONE has a hard time calling this terrorism, they are a ball-less dishonest white racist sympathizer.

  18. “White Supremacist Terrorism,” people, wrap your minds around it. It’s real.

    …And SHAME on you for not seeing it that way – to start with! You pussy sons a bitc…

  19. Oops, I had a drink before bed.

  20. Maybe, some of you are worried about your neighbors hating you if you publicly state that you want better equality for people of different skin color, in America, but when it comes to the domestic terrorist attack, neither this blog nor it’s comments has yet to hit the mark.

    Hit the freakin mark, already, people!

  21. I’m with you, Cory. Mr Trump, please do one honorable thing as President and be gone. The country would be infinitely better for it, and you will still have plenty of time to visit your private golf courses.

  22. “Buckobear” writes:

    Trump announces first two books for Precedential Library;
    “Mein Kampf” and “The Art of the Deal.” \s

    As I’d commented here during the campaign, when Donald Trump was 43 years old, his first wife told her attorney that he kept a book of Hitler’s speeches in a cabinet by his bed:

    Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.

    “Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.

    Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”

    “I don’t remember,” I said.

    “Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)

    Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”

    Is Ivana trying to convince her friends and lawyer that Trump is a crypto-Nazi? Trump is no reader or history buff. Perhaps his possession of Hitler’s speeches merely indicates an interest in Hitler’s genius at propaganda. The Führer often described his defeats at Stalingrad and in North Africa as great victories. Trump continues to endow his diminishing world with significance as well. “There’s nobody that has the cash flow that I have,” he told The Wall Street Journal long after he knew better. “I want to be king of cash.”

    http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8

  23. God damn. Sometimes, yall sadden me. It’s terrorism, folks. But, heck, this wouldn’t be the first time South Dakotans looked like s— to me.

  24. Can I say that? or does everything have to be all pretty all the time?

  25. The protest was a shame, a ruse, paid protestors for both sides. Who was behind it? http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user230519/imageroot/2017/08/16/2017.08.16%20-%20Protest%201_1.jpg

    It will come out. It will all be disclosed and when it is it will all fall on the shoulders of the democrats behind the deaths and riots.

  26. Indeed, it has come out. Proof that trump and the rest of you Nazi’s are full of beans. https://www.scribd.com/document/356483336/2017-Public-Demonstration-Unity-and-Love-Free-Speech-August-12-2017Certificate-of-Approval#from_embed Oldsarg, carry more water man, and clap louder and for goodness sake, get more swastika tattoos.

  27. Adam, don’t drink and comment. :-)

  28. OldSarg, the ad you clipped referred to events in Charlotte, North Carolina. Stop making stuff up to cover the plain truth: Donald Trump is making excuses for Nazis. Donald Trump is not fit to be President. Donald Trump has a patriotic duty to resign.

  29. White supremacist’s that know a thing about history or geography, are very rare. Thank their Creator for allowing them to be born white though, as that gives them a pass for that. Dude missed it by two states. If we were speaking of Georgia, he would be looking and finding that Tbilisi does not sound like Atlanta..but it spells like it.

  30. Roger Cornelius

    I’d like to take a moment here and thank those here on Dakota Free Press that have expressed appreciation for the Americans that protested the use of Nazi and Confederate statues and flags and have expressed outrage about the racist in our White House and his misguided supporters.
    As a Native American, I take particular exception to any and all acts of racism, prejudice and discrimination. In the nearly 70 years of my life much of it has been fighting racism right here in western South Dakota and elsewhere around the country.
    With the exception of a few, most comments have been on target and to the point, again I thank you for expressing your anger and outrage and support of all people of color.

  31. ‘OldSarg’ – Please take a few minutes and read Dr Newquist’s latest post at Northern Valley Beacon. You would find it educational.

  32. mike from iowa

    OldSarg, this one’s fer you. A rare photo of Lincoln delivering Getty’s bird a dress. Seriously.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d08b084351755298784dd5c9041d01c12079336e1f4fa0a18afee5542a4770eb.jpg

  33. I’m in Nantucket this morning looking out over the bay filled with the boats. It’s peaceful, a little drizzly and no one is running around calling everyone a racist. A seagull is on the railing of my balcony squawking less crap than Michelle from Imawacko.

  34. Thank you, Roger, for helping us see and speak the truth. Part of me thinks we shouldn’t have to say, “Yup, Lakota people are o.k.” We should all be operating on our nation’s founding axiom, that all men are created equal. But 241 years later, we still have people in the streets denying that self-evident truth. We are thus obliged to the statue-worthy Thomas Jefferson to keep saying it—All men are created equal—over and over and over again we get through to most of our neighbors and drown out the remaining hateful fringe.

  35. Good words Cory: “All men are CREATED equal” yet so many redefine those words to exclude those they do not favor. Defending life is the calling and duty for all those that call themselves American. The most innocent among all of us are subjected to the instutional corporate program of abortion which has killed more American citizens than all our wars, riots and terrorist attacks in history. Had there been no abortion we would by this day had enough new tax payers to support all the social programs ever dreamed of.

  36. mike from iowa

    There was an old sarg in Nantucket
    something something something rhyme.

  37. It’s actually very nice here this morning as all the statues are still standing.

  38. mother ship to oldsarg, Michelle and Barack have left the building. Instead of their stewardship, you know should be adoring your head Nazi, trump whose own blood line is suspect.

  39. I like the statue to John Kennedy there on Nantucket.

  40. There are no traitor confederate statues there or none of your favorite Nazi’ either.

  41. Massasoit, the protector of the Pilgrims, statue is there. Note, not the Puritans as they were so much like Nazi’s, the local Natives went to war against them. That should have been our first clue about them and what they stand for. Massachusetts is an Indian name that means “the hill” roughly translated. The place was a beacon of hope for all that came there and was the birthplace of the American Revolution to rid ourselves of the plague of tyranny that you fully support with your swastika.

  42. Porter Lansing

    @Jerry … I try not to mention German heritage too much because it’s a little to close to some in South Dakota BUT there are now four (only four) USA Presidents with German heritage. Hoover, Eisenhauer, Trump and ….. wait for it ….. Barack Hussein Obama. (his Mom’s Dad from Kansas was from German immigrants). Why only four out of forty-five when the majority in this country have German heritage? I can only assume but that’s a telling statistic about how German’s struggle as leaders. (Lots of telling people what to do and the acceptance of being told what to do.)
    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-06-04-obama-roots_N.htm

  43. John Kennedy was a democrat. The democrats supported slavery and voted in mass against the Civil Rights act. The democrats had Byrd, a KKK leader, head their party. You should all head to your local libraries and start burning the books that have pictures of democrats in them before your history is known.

    Isn’t it surprising that all the statues, books and history you are all supporting is the history of the democrats?

  44. Actually soldarg, the Nazi statues that have been erected were mainly done during the Jim Crow era. Of course that was when there were Dixiecrats like Strom Thurmon and Jesse Helms both who fathered black children, how sweet. The statues were not put up to honor the war but to put in place any uppity Negroes that may think that they were equal to a white man.

    Porter, I do not condemn the people of South Dakota who are of German heritage, I merely want to seek their better angels to ask them how they can willingly support Nazism after seeing the tragedy of it in their Fatherland. How do you support the mass murder of 6 million Jews, Roma’s, disabled, Poles and a variety of others? How can you say that trump is different when that is who he is clearly supporting?

  45. Roger Cornelius

    Oh Crap!!
    OldSarg has turned into another Stace Nelson.
    May favorite word this week is ‘whataboutism’ and OldSarg uses it perfectly.
    Before you burn the dictionary, OldSarg, look it up and you’ll a picture of yourself along with definition.

  46. Nailed it Roger, oldsarg is a caricature of Stace Nelson, although, I really did not think this possible until you mention it, he is the mini me though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkmi_UTsjtE

  47. Steve Bannon is out as chief strategist in the Nazi white house (not really). He will move his desk to a different room in the newly renovate people’s house. The articles of impeachment are going to be read today so trump has to oblige his chief strategist and do something to take the headline away.

  48. Mount Rushmore was carved by the same Nazi that did Stone Mountain, so there is that https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/7/12/1400279/-Mount-Rushmore-the-KKK-and-sanitized-American-history

    When climate change kills us like it did in the past with the dinosaurs, maybe the last thing we want archaeologists to find, are statues that prove we were to damn ignorant to understand that we are all the same.

  49. Porter Lansing

    Jerry … I don’t condemn those of German heritage, either. But, I’m one of them and you, a Native American, have every right to. I bring up the subject because no one ever has. When you want to change a group think, like the social conservatism in SoDak, for the better, it’s initial to understand where the group think is coming from. To realize where a group sits before you can understand where they stand, in other words.

  50. Porter, you are correct. It does not make any sense to tell Nazi supporters of trump that they are wrong to think trump is doing them wrong. The focus should be on the economy and where trump and South Dakota are going with that. The focus should be not on how much you fellows are paying for your healthcare, but how much income are you receiving for your goods and production.

    The 61% of South Dakota voters thought trump had a better solution to their problems. So they voted for him with that in mind. There is no point in trying to reason with them on the matter at all as you know as well as me that they are not going to change their minds until the bottom falls out. So there is that. Lets see how the crops come in, how the cattle markets are and how much they made this year over last year.

  51. Porter Lansing

    Sometimes I think 61% of SoDak voters have a basement full of new stockpiled incandescent light bulbs. New things and new ideas are just a communist plot.

  52. Sometimes I think Porter lives in Colorado and has lost his South Dakota roots. Well, 61% lost. The other 39% is stoned.

  53. Porter Lansing

    That’s a pretty bold statement from someone in a state where pain pills are as common as candy. 14% of Colorado residents use pot but over 50% of South Dakotans have abused pain pills. But what can you expect from this fraud?
    Every military officer knows that Sergeants are human underachievers. Otherwise, why aren’t they officers? But, every military officer also realizes what a valuable tool their Sergeants are. They give orders and take orders very well. Not surprisingly,that’s also what those of German heritage excel at. However, many lack the common sense God gave a stump. (e.g. OldSarge and Stace Nelson … possibly the same entity? It’s not hard to fake an IP address.)
    http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/28/opioid-abuse-is-plummeting-in-states-with-legal-marijuana/

  54. You make zero sense with those slurring words from you keyboard oldsarg. Here is the deal, Porter lives in Colorado, a Colorado that voted for Hillary Clinton with an almost 140,000 vote difference. In South Dakota, where you claim you are from 61% of the vote went to trump and the rest more or less to Hillary Clinton. “Well, 61% lost. The other 39% is stoned.” makes about as much sense as the supporters of Nazism in South Dakota. 61% of the voters knew full well that trump was a Nazi and voted for him anyway. 39% of us are patriots that could not and would not subvert our country.

  55. Roger Cornelius

    Where did you get those statistics, OldSarge, from a shot glass?
    Porter happens to be a South Dakota landowner and tax payer and has the right to comment on DFP. Even if wasn’t a South Dakota and lived in Russia he has Free Speech on his side.

  56. OldSarge appears incorrigible – mushy brain tissue disease can do this to people.

  57. Oh my Gosh! Poor Mentally Disabled Portly is attacked! Good thing you are all here to defend the poor helpless stoned boy!

    PS: Portly; stripes are earned. Bars are given. Given time you get bars. You wouldn’t understand.

  58. Porter Lansing

    I understand all about you, Jon. That’s his name, folks. Now, stay on topic. PS … you’re no more in Nantucket than I’m in Aberdeen.

  59. Roger Cornelius

    OldSarg deserves bars alright, he belongs behind bars with his God, Trump.

  60. I think of Trump as more of a “Conserva-Jesus.” I just do.

    When the brain tissue gets too mushy, the damage becomes permanent. Good thing there’s still a significant portion of idiots who are actually salvageable.

  61. Cory writes:

    We should all be operating on our nation’s founding axiom, that all men are created equal. But 241 years later, we still have people in the streets denying that self-evident truth. We are thus obliged to the statue-worthy Thomas Jefferson to keep saying it—All men are created equal—over and over and over again …

    We’ve agreed many times over the years, Cory, but I’m not sure we’ve ever agreed on anything as important as this.

  62. mike from iowa

    I got burned cherry bars every time I helped the neighbor bale hay. It was a running joke with his Missus to burn my cherry bars.

    You can get stripes for being arrested. Not hard at all in a police state.

    Porter is all there and then some, OldSarg.

  63. barry freed

    If you don’t mind, I’ll not accept from the War Criminal, Bush, what is or is not Christian or American.

    You could look for quotes by Ghandi, Mother Teresa, or any number of true liberals who preach love and acceptance to change hearts, but you choose Bush, the killer of women and children.

  64. Jerry writes:

    Mount Rushmore was carved by the same Nazi that did Stone Mountain …

    Gutzon Borglum wasn’t a Nazi. His open denunciation of Adolf Hitler in the 1930s actually led to Hitler’s destruction of a statue by Borglum in Poland.

    Borglum didn’t carve Stone Mountain either. His initial work there was entirely removed after he left the project.

  65. Nazi, KKK..What is the difference? Both hate Jews, Both hate Blacks, Both hate. Borglum was each. He may have deplored some of the things Hitler did, but he believed the same. Hitler was not paying his way, the same America that believed and in some cases still does, that Jim Crow and the KKK were correct. Hint: Look in mirror to see who.

  66. Jerry writes:

    Nazi, KKK..What is the difference? … Borglum was each.

    Borglum sculpted monuments honoring both Union and Confederate soldiers and apparently saw the Ku Klux Klan as a potential fundraising ally for the Stone Mountain project. He publicly renounced the Klan after it devolved into an overtly terroristic organization during the 1920s.

    He was never a Nazi and openly opposed Nazism well before World War II.

    Hitler was not paying his way, the same America that believed and in some cases still does, that Jim Crow and the KKK were correct. Hint: Look in mirror to see who.

    I’ve never believed Jim Crow laws and the Ku Klux Klan were correct.

  67. “Apparently saw the KKK as a fundraiser ally”, of course, makes all the sense in the world. trump finally renounced the Nazi/KKK terrorists and then did not because of their potential fundraising for his base, you. Thanks Kurt for showing that connection between Nazism, anti-semantics, white nationalism, the KKK and every other hater, it all has to do with fundraising.

    What you are saying here, is nothing new. The republican strategist during Reagan’s time, Lee Atwater, figured it out long before you ever did. I see Cory has a post up on Jim Bolin and his states rights fraud as well.
    Here is what you mean https://www.thenation.com/article/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/

    “I’ve never believed Jim Crow laws and the KKK were correct” in that they never went far enough to subjugate the Black man back into servitude is what you mean, of course. One thing that I have noticed about your parsing of words Kurt, is that you sound like your inner Bill Clinton.

  68. I’d written:

    Borglum sculpted monuments honoring both Union and Confederate soldiers and apparently saw the Ku Klux Klan as a potential fundraising ally for the Stone Mountain project.

    Jerry writes:

    … of course, makes all the sense in the world. trump finally renounced the Nazi/KKK terrorists and then did not because of their potential fundraising for his base, you.

    I’m not part of President Trump’s political base. I campaigned against him:
    http://dakotafreepress.com/2016/11/08/kurt-evans-dumps-trump-votes-castle/

    Thanks Kurt for showing that connection between Nazism, anti-semantics, white nationalism, the KKK and every other hater, it all has to do with fundraising.

    My guess is that the connection between Gutzon Borglum and the second incarnation of the Ku Klux Klan also had a lot to do with the fact that the Klan’s leaders in the early 1920s had successfully branded it as a legitimate political organization. It seems unlikely to me that the Klan’s four million members at the time were all perpetrators of race-based terrorism.

    What you are saying here, is nothing new. The republican strategist during Reagan’s time, Lee Atwater, figured it out long before you ever did.

    I’m wondering why you’d say Atwater was interested in Gutzon Borglum.

    Here is what you mean https://www.thenation.com/article/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/

    That article is very poorly written. Rick Perlstein presumably opposes making English our official language.

    I’d written:

    I’ve never believed Jim Crow laws and the Ku Klux Klan were correct.

    Jerry writes:

    … in that they never went far enough to subjugate the Black man back into servitude is what you mean, of course.

    No, Jerry, that isn’t what I mean at all.

  69. I’d written:

    Borglum sculpted monuments honoring both Union and Confederate soldiers and apparently saw the Ku Klux Klan as a potential fundraising ally for the Stone Mountain project.

    Jerry writes:

    … of course, makes all the sense in the world. trump finally renounced the Nazi/KKK terrorists and then did not because of their potential fundraising for his base, you.

    I’m not part of President Trump’s political base. I campaigned against him:
    http://dakotafreepress.com/2016/11/08/kurt-evans-dumps-trump-votes-castle/
    So you are a never trumper. The kind that claims they dislike trump but support his ideas anyway.

    Thanks Kurt for showing that connection between Nazism, anti-semantics, white nationalism, the KKK and every other hater, it all has to do with fundraising.

    My guess is that the connection between Gutzon Borglum and the second incarnation of the Ku Klux Klan also had a lot to do with the fact that the Klan’s leaders in the early 1920s had successfully branded it as a legitimate political organization. It seems unlikely to me that the Klan’s four million members at the time were all perpetrators of race-based terrorism.
    Kurt, you were the one who made the claim about the KKK’s support for fundraising, not me.

    What you are saying here, is nothing new. The republican strategist during Reagan’s time, Lee Atwater, figured it out long before you ever did.

    I’m wondering why you’d say Atwater was interested in Gutzon Borglum.

    Atwater showed the way through his word parsing of ‘States Rights” to overcome the fact that it was all about the racial politics of denying Blacks their rights. Funny how that works, but to folks like yourself, you cannot resist the dog whistle.

    Here is what you mean https://www.thenation.com/article/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/
    I know what I mean.

    That article is very poorly written. Rick Perlstein presumably opposes making English our official language.

    So why did you post it then teacherman? Is that supposed to mean that you are now correcting long written opinions, how boring.

    I’d written:

    I’ve never believed Jim Crow laws and the Ku Klux Klan were correct.

    Probably because you thought they did not go far enough for you to be whistling Dixie on your plantation.

    Jerry writes:

    … in that they never went far enough to subjugate the Black man back into servitude is what you mean, of course.

    No, Jerry, that isn’t what I mean at all.

    Yes, Kurt, that is exactly what you mean. You fool no one, possibly yourself, but hey, that is how you roll.

  70. Look, if a guy thinks tearing down a statue of a Southern General is an assault on what kind of American he is, then he struggles with racism.

    And because so many of the white supremacists of today grip onto these statues to justify their intolerance for fellow man under the cloak of ‘history’ we should tear all those damn statues down just to say FU in the biggest possible way.

    In 2007, I took a business trip to South Carolina. Little did I know, before I got there, that the white people would all demonstrate reverence for the good old days of the South – more than they seemed to appreciate living in this modern world. It was disgusting, and I don’t business with the people I visited in SC anymore. SC even has funeral homes that won’t take black people. It’s just freaking bizarre, to me, but make no mistake: racism has been justified and promoted by ‘revering the past’ for a long time in conserva-America. They play coy with the facts, but they’re as transparent as a glass window.

    It’s pathetic when conservatives pretend like there is nothing they ever could have done to keep ALL of America’s white supremacists from flocking to their Republican Party.

  71. I don’t care who originally paid for the statues, or who sculpted them. We have a significant portion of Americans today who use those statues to justify their hate of nonwhite people. We should tear down these statues, and perhaps erect new ones.

  72. I’d written:

    I’m not part of President Trump’s political base. I campaigned against him:
    http://dakotafreepress.com/2016/11/08/kurt-evans-dumps-trump-votes-castle/

    Jerry replies:

    So you are a never trumper. The kind that claims they dislike trump but support his ideas anyway.

    I’m not a never-Trumper of any kind. I’m just not part of his political base.

    I’d written to Jerry:

    I’m wondering why you’d say [Lee] Atwater was interested in Gutzon Borglum.

    Jerry replies:

    Atwater showed the way through his word parsing of ‘States Rights” to overcome the fact that it was all about the racial politics of denying Blacks their rights. Funny how that works, but to folks like yourself, you cannot resist the dog whistle.

    I’m not sure what any of that has to do with Gutzon Borglum.

    Jerry had written:

    Here is what you mean https://www.thenation.com/article/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/

    I’d replied:

    That article is very poorly written.

    Jerry asks:

    So why did you post it then teacherman?

    You posted it, and I quoted you.

    Is that supposed to mean that you are now correcting long written opinions[?] …

    No, it isn’t.

    Jerry had written to me:

    [You’ve never believed Jim Crow laws and the Ku Klux Klan] went far enough to subjugate the Black man back into servitude is what you mean, of course.

    I’d replied:

    … that isn’t what I mean at all.

    Jerry writes:

    Yes, Kurt, that is exactly what you mean.

    You seem to be an extraordinarily evil person, Jerry.

    Adam writes:

    Look, if a guy thinks tearing down a statue of a Southern General is an assault on what kind of American he is, then he struggles with racism.

    I have mixed feelings about the statues, but in any case that’s an absurd generalization.