The other night I watched the last GOP debate and thought I was watching a bad reality TV show. The top three contenders, especially, were not displaying the qualities of someone who is ready to lead our country or deal with other world leaders.
After Super Tuesday, it appears that Donald Trump, The King of Whoppers, will be the GOP nominee for his party. Let’s talk about what his supporters are saying about him.
In the 12 years of FactCheck.org’s existence, we’ve never seen his match.
He stands out not only for the sheer number of his factually false claims, but also for his brazen refusals to admit error when proven wrong [FactCheck.org, “The ‘King of Whoppers’: Donald Trump,” 2015.12.21].
Great again like what, the mess Bush left us in? Trump tells us the economy is not in good shape. Here are two indications that he is wrong:
NO RECESSION — Via PNC: “[C]onsumers continue to power the U.S. economy at the beginning of 2016. Personal income and consumer spending both rose 0.5 percent in January; these were stronger than the consensus expectations. They were also the largest monthly increases in both measures since May 2015. After-tax income also rose 0.5 percent in January. There was a very good 0.6 percent increase in labor market income in January, thanks to job and wage gains and a longer average workweek.”
CAR SALES KEEP CRANKING — FT’s Robert Wright: “US car sales continued to run at record rates in February, defying fears of a slowing US economy and forecasts that demand must plateau after a record 17.5m new vehicles were sold in 2015. Sales for Ford, the number two US carmaker by sales, were up 20.2 per cent on February last year, while Fiat Chrysler, the US number four, achieved an increase of 12 per cent. General Motors, the market leader, said its sales were up 6.6 per cent on the same month in 2015, while Toyota, the market number three, grew its sales 5.2 per cent” [Ben White, “Trump, Clinton, dominate Super Tuesday,” Politico, March 2, 2016].
Folks, the soul of our country is at stake if Donald Trump actually becomes our President. This election is ours to lose. So as your Democratic Party Vice Chair, I am asking three things of you.
Image by Michael Casnter
Number one: Do not let the GOP spread half truths any more. When something is said that is a flat out false statement engage them and present them the facts.Number two: I know all of you have your favorite Democratic candidate for president. This is great but I am seeing some Facebook posts that are sounding like what is happening with the GOP. Some are personal attacks. This is not what we do as Democrats. Let’s discuss the issues and show how each candidate is different let us not make it personal.
Number three: When our party picks its nominee, we must come together as Democrats and work to get our nominee elected. The election is ours to lose. The 2008 election was all about hope. The 2016 election must be about nope for Trump, the King of the Whoppers
—Joe Lowe, Vice Chairman, South Dakota Democratic Party.
Trump will insult Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio, and John Kasich while avoiding serious policy discussion on stage in Detroit tonight in a GOP Presidential candidates’ debate broadcast live on Fox News, starting at 8 Central, 7 Mountain. Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, and Maine vote Saturday, with 155 delegates at stake. Trump has 319 delegates, compared to Cruz’s 226, Rubio’s 110, and Kasich’s 25. If the challengers get together, they can still beat Trump. If they can’t do that, Dems, Lowe is reminding us that unity against tyranny will become our duty.
As scary as Trump is, he’s not nearly as scary of either cruz or rubio. Those two have some really dark money backing them. So, we need to make sure none of these three are elected POTUS. Even if that means Hillary. Sanders would be my first choice, but it aooears we need to hit rock bottom economically before a Democratic Socialist is president.
There are rumors flying about that the republican party may try to pull off what the dems did in 1968. If they have a brokered convention, the wheels are coming off their wagon.
I’m with you, Mike. Cruz’s televangelist act makes me queasy. Rubio strikes me as a lightweight (on this, I agree with Trump). Kasich is the only Republican left in whose assumption of power I would not see danger to the Republic.
I, too, believe Sanders is better than Clinton. As Joe says, when we pull off our upset and nominate Sanders, Clinton supporters will have a moral obligation to stand with us and ensure we do not let Trump assume the throne.
larry kurtz
2016-03-03 15:05
Agreed. Trump, Clinton and Gary Johnson debating will be fun.
Richard Schriever
2016-03-03 15:06
The “tells it like it is” response has nothing to do with verifiable factual information. It has to do with EMOTION – or attitude. It’s a “he feels our pain” kinda thing. The FACT that he doesn’t actually FEEL their pain isn’t an issue, either. It’s more like, “He expresses our pain on a the grander stage.” As they say in some neighborhoods, he “represents”.
jimmy james
2016-03-03 15:08
We all have a moral obligation to ensure that “we do not let Trump assume the throne”. Republicans too.
Hopefully the third grade bully leaves the debate tonight with a bloody nose. If not, we could start next year with a belligerent fourth grader…with his tiny fingers on the nuclear button.
larry kurtz
2016-03-03 15:10
DeLemus was a former candidate for Strafford County sheriff. He and his wife were active in the Trump campaign during New Hampshire’s first-in-the-nation presidential primary.
Lowe would be a formidable candidate against don Juan Thune. Run Joe.
Roger Cornelius
2016-03-03 16:07
Add John McCain to that list of those condemning Trump, given Trumps comments about McCain not being a war hero, this is understandable. I’m hoping that the soul of the republican party will give credence to McCain.
It has been entertaining to joke and insult Trump to this point of the campaign, but now republicans are recognizing that Trump would be a disaster to our economy and national security and so much more.
As Democrats we need to follow Joe”s three points.
Mike Kokenge
2016-03-03 16:36
I see you have a link to the romney takedown of trump. There is a reason for that. That reason is paul the vulture singer. singer would be the defacto POTUS if rubio wins. Who is singer?
Trump is more likable than Romney. Mitt is so certain of his superiority you’d like to give him one and watch him fall. Trump might actually know he’s full of shit. Who would you like to have a beer with? None of them. Hillary is nothing to be proud of but probably the least destructive.
Douglas Wiken
2016-03-03 19:39
I think Democrats underestimate Trump’s appeal. Most news media celebrities are so separated from the real world, they don’t see the despair at corporate politicians that those on the bottom see and feel…it is partly emotion too.
I also think Hillary’s appeal as a candidate is greatly over-rated by the politicos and the press. She reeks of establishment candidate who almost always picks a bad option first and then with her tits in the wringer gets around to a position that is at least partially supported by hard-core Democrats who care about people in the real world. If no other option, Hillary is the hold-your-nose and vote for her candidate.
Sanders needs a revolution to go with him to the legal barricades and the partisan retrogrades of both parties. His positions on the issues, despite the socialist label, seem as if they should make the most sense to the 99% of us.
John Kasich almost seems like perhaps the best choice of the bunch, but he does not seem to get much traction. Ohio might give him a boost.
Whatever, it does seem that in the whole United States, there must be a few more people who would make a better President than the crop now running.
Spike
2016-03-03 19:55
I’m a Joe Lowe supporter. Smart humble guy. He would eat Thunes lunch in a real debate.
Happy Camper…sorry sir, BUT Hillary has done as much for us as SHE could. Not without mistakes, but with a true sincere heart.
She showed her intelligence and strength at the “Bengazi hearings” made a roomful of attorneys and politicans surrender unconditionally.
Unfortunately with so many things on her plate as secretary of state this email issue gets put under a microscope. She will do a great job as our next President.
I am proud of her. Even if your not. She is a brave woman.
Trump more likeable than Romney?
grudznick
2016-03-03 20:38
Joe Lowe is a no go. Always will be. Probably is a higher caliber than any of the other libbies in the Democrat party though. I give the arrogant bastard that.
Les
2016-03-03 22:57
“What difference does it make,” Spike?
Roger Cornelius
2016-03-03 23:18
In tonight’s presidential debate on Fox “News”, Donald Trump opened the discussion by boasting about the size of his genitals, no kidding.
Maybe the South Dakota genital king, Rep. Deutsch should join Trump on the campaign trail
leslie
2016-03-04 01:16
trump also referred to Romney yesterday as giving him a blow job. the guy is a pig, plain and simple. ugh
reminds me a bit of grudz’ commentabove. two of a kind.
leslie
2016-03-04 01:28
while Kasich has credibility, he is still quite partisan based on on an npr interview last week. I predict Hillary will take it. if trump runs it’ll be a disgusting several months and then she’ll slaughter him at the polls. the republicans will have shown their true colors, we’ll have to repair all the damage they have done, as usual, and if RBG hangs in there, we will have a less rigid SCOTUS w/Obama’s replacement for rove, I mean Rumsfeld, I mean cheny, I mean scalia the bully. thank god. merely my prediction.
leslie
2016-03-04 01:32
“fall mountains, just don’t fall on me” -jm
Les
2016-03-04 07:48
“Here’s my message to the Republican party leaders,” Corker said in a statement. “Focus more on listening to the American people and less on trying to stifle their voice.”
This election “is the result of two things: the fecklessness and ineptness of the Washington establishment in failing to address the big issues facing our country and years of anger with the overreach of the Obama administration. And to be candid, I think the American people should be angrier than they are.” Bob Corker
Happy Camper
2016-03-04 09:09
Oh I just love how in one breathe Republicans paint Obama as impotent but the next overreaching while all they’ve done for years is block any steps forward. Even on this blog our state finally gets an education bill but the silence was deafening. Dumb apes us versus them.
leslie
2016-03-04 10:49
corker, again an example of a perhaps reasonable yet impossibly partisan angry republican:
“years of anger with the overreach of the Obama administration”
what a crock o’ sheit.
bearcreekbat
2016-03-04 11:42
I found this pretty revealing – each not-Trump Republican presidential candidate in last night’s debate make it clear that they believe Trump to be unqualified to be President and that his election would hurt the American people. But if he is nominated by their party each said he would vote in favor of Trump – someone they believe to be unfit and who will harm the nation. I guess that reveals how much each candidate cares about America.
mike from iowa
2016-03-04 11:59
If moving America forward (despite having ti drag wingnuts along) is overreach,I’m for overreach. If trying to improve the lives of all citizens is overreach,again, I’m all for overreach. If overreach pisses off obstructionist,do-nothing wingnuts,then I say,”Hell,Yeah!”
Anthony Avvampato
2016-03-06 12:47
As a business man worth close to 4 billion net worth, who owns a ton of companies, is a human. Sure he’s had stumbles along the way but did it bring him down? No he is now more powerful than ever.
Leader quality #1
He has companies and works with people of all different ethnicities globally. He has made thousands of jobs on his own accord! He can agree, negotitate, and MAKES MONEY at the same time. Doesn’t hide behind the media to cover himself up.
Leader quality #2
He understands how immigrants legally in the US have their jobs impacted as they compete against illegals for wages. That isn’t too hard to get is it? I lived 15 miles from the border had families come across our yard. In 1960 our economy could handle the flow of immigrants, now we have so many people here with essentially no cap our economy suffers.
Leader quality #3
Mitt Romney & everyone else involved with bringing down Trump has shown their true colors in corruption. They potentially have ruined the Republican Party by participating in disrespectful actions. You should support your running mates as to keep the party stable. Morons
Do I really need to continue? Donald Trump is the answer to a change in our corrupt congress. He’s pointed the finger and as it comes to a boil our government runs scared. Congress that would use race for example as a gateway to their corruption. Ruin lives at everyone’s expense.
It’s time for an American Revolution
mike from iowa
2016-03-06 15:10
Amazing how people with overwhelming student debt,can’t file bankruptcy when people like Drumpf use the bankruptcy courts to shield themselves from personal debts and come out of bankruptcy with more money than ever X 4. Then he claims he never filed bankruptcy and threatens to sue anyone that makes that claim.
Shirley Moore
2016-03-06 16:15
Joe Lowe would have had a good chance to be Governor if women would had not voted with their vaginas and paid attention to what the Chief is saying. Foolish voters.
grudznick
2016-03-06 16:19
That’s hilarious, Ms. Moore.
larry kurtz
2016-03-06 16:30
Wismer’s choice of running mate was indeed quixotic.
grudznick
2016-03-06 16:53
I still laugh and laugh about that.
Roger Cornelius
2016-03-06 18:18
This Anthony guy needs to be deprogramed.
If Trump can’t work with the GOP party establishment he has proved he is not a leader, as Trump has said, a leader unites, not divides. Look at what and how Trump has put the GOP on life support.
I just absolutely love the fact that Donald Trump is challenging the establishment Republicans. He’s redefining the party and, hopefully, destroying the power that has been in that little oligarchy of establishment Republicans in Washington, D.C. [Don Reid, interviewed by Rachel Martin, “Supporting Trump As The Anti-Establishment Candidate,” NPR: Weekend Edition Sunday, 2016.03.06]
Yes, because the surest way to destroy an oligarchy is to elect a billionaire President.
Amazingly, Reid went on to criticize Trump for coming across as an “arrogant elitist.” He admits that Trump is not a social conservative but says “social conservatism can be put on hold for four years.” (Boy, I hope I can convince Dale Bartscher and Family Heritage Alliance to take that position and endorse me for Senate!)
But Reid clings to his Trump love on the assertion that “illegal immigration is the biggest problem that our country faces. It will destroy this country and our culture, and we must do something about it.” That’s an odd statement, considering that ITEP estimates that undocumented immigrants pay $4.25 million in state and local taxes in South Dakota and would contribute tens of thousands more if we fully implemented President Obama’s executive orders on immigration. Additionally…
Undocumented workers pay their part despite the fact that they are explicitly banned from taxpayer-funded programs such as Social Security, Medicare, welfare, and food stamps. Undocumented immigrants contributed about $12 billion to the Social Security Trust Fund in 2010, according to the Social Security Administration [Meredit Hoffman, “Undocumented Immigrants Pay Billions in Taxes to Fund Programs They’re Banned From Using,” Vice.com, 2015.04.13].
I’m not seeing the crisis caused by undocumented workers. I’m just seeing Trump stir fear and loathing that trumps the rational analysis folks like Reid and Anthony might otherwise do.
As scary as Trump is, he’s not nearly as scary of either cruz or rubio. Those two have some really dark money backing them. So, we need to make sure none of these three are elected POTUS. Even if that means Hillary. Sanders would be my first choice, but it aooears we need to hit rock bottom economically before a Democratic Socialist is president.
There are rumors flying about that the republican party may try to pull off what the dems did in 1968. If they have a brokered convention, the wheels are coming off their wagon.
I’m with you, Mike. Cruz’s televangelist act makes me queasy. Rubio strikes me as a lightweight (on this, I agree with Trump). Kasich is the only Republican left in whose assumption of power I would not see danger to the Republic.
I, too, believe Sanders is better than Clinton. As Joe says, when we pull off our upset and nominate Sanders, Clinton supporters will have a moral obligation to stand with us and ensure we do not let Trump assume the throne.
Agreed. Trump, Clinton and Gary Johnson debating will be fun.
The “tells it like it is” response has nothing to do with verifiable factual information. It has to do with EMOTION – or attitude. It’s a “he feels our pain” kinda thing. The FACT that he doesn’t actually FEEL their pain isn’t an issue, either. It’s more like, “He expresses our pain on a the grander stage.” As they say in some neighborhoods, he “represents”.
We all have a moral obligation to ensure that “we do not let Trump assume the throne”. Republicans too.
Hopefully the third grade bully leaves the debate tonight with a bloody nose. If not, we could start next year with a belligerent fourth grader…with his tiny fingers on the nuclear button.
Tea Party Activist, Trump Supporter Jerry DeLemus Arrested
Lowe would be a formidable candidate against don Juan Thune. Run Joe.
Add John McCain to that list of those condemning Trump, given Trumps comments about McCain not being a war hero, this is understandable. I’m hoping that the soul of the republican party will give credence to McCain.
It has been entertaining to joke and insult Trump to this point of the campaign, but now republicans are recognizing that Trump would be a disaster to our economy and national security and so much more.
As Democrats we need to follow Joe”s three points.
I see you have a link to the romney takedown of trump. There is a reason for that. That reason is paul the vulture singer. singer would be the defacto POTUS if rubio wins. Who is singer?
http://www.gregpalast.com/the-romneyrubio-vulture-connection/
http://www.gregpalast.com/who-hatched-rubio-2/
Trump is more likable than Romney. Mitt is so certain of his superiority you’d like to give him one and watch him fall. Trump might actually know he’s full of shit. Who would you like to have a beer with? None of them. Hillary is nothing to be proud of but probably the least destructive.
I think Democrats underestimate Trump’s appeal. Most news media celebrities are so separated from the real world, they don’t see the despair at corporate politicians that those on the bottom see and feel…it is partly emotion too.
I also think Hillary’s appeal as a candidate is greatly over-rated by the politicos and the press. She reeks of establishment candidate who almost always picks a bad option first and then with her tits in the wringer gets around to a position that is at least partially supported by hard-core Democrats who care about people in the real world. If no other option, Hillary is the hold-your-nose and vote for her candidate.
Sanders needs a revolution to go with him to the legal barricades and the partisan retrogrades of both parties. His positions on the issues, despite the socialist label, seem as if they should make the most sense to the 99% of us.
John Kasich almost seems like perhaps the best choice of the bunch, but he does not seem to get much traction. Ohio might give him a boost.
Whatever, it does seem that in the whole United States, there must be a few more people who would make a better President than the crop now running.
I’m a Joe Lowe supporter. Smart humble guy. He would eat Thunes lunch in a real debate.
Happy Camper…sorry sir, BUT Hillary has done as much for us as SHE could. Not without mistakes, but with a true sincere heart.
She showed her intelligence and strength at the “Bengazi hearings” made a roomful of attorneys and politicans surrender unconditionally.
Unfortunately with so many things on her plate as secretary of state this email issue gets put under a microscope. She will do a great job as our next President.
I am proud of her. Even if your not. She is a brave woman.
Trump more likeable than Romney?
Joe Lowe is a no go. Always will be. Probably is a higher caliber than any of the other libbies in the Democrat party though. I give the arrogant bastard that.
“What difference does it make,” Spike?
In tonight’s presidential debate on Fox “News”, Donald Trump opened the discussion by boasting about the size of his genitals, no kidding.
Maybe the South Dakota genital king, Rep. Deutsch should join Trump on the campaign trail
trump also referred to Romney yesterday as giving him a blow job. the guy is a pig, plain and simple. ugh
reminds me a bit of grudz’ commentabove. two of a kind.
while Kasich has credibility, he is still quite partisan based on on an npr interview last week. I predict Hillary will take it. if trump runs it’ll be a disgusting several months and then she’ll slaughter him at the polls. the republicans will have shown their true colors, we’ll have to repair all the damage they have done, as usual, and if RBG hangs in there, we will have a less rigid SCOTUS w/Obama’s replacement for rove, I mean Rumsfeld, I mean cheny, I mean scalia the bully. thank god. merely my prediction.
“fall mountains, just don’t fall on me” -jm
“Here’s my message to the Republican party leaders,” Corker said in a statement. “Focus more on listening to the American people and less on trying to stifle their voice.”
This election “is the result of two things: the fecklessness and ineptness of the Washington establishment in failing to address the big issues facing our country and years of anger with the overreach of the Obama administration. And to be candid, I think the American people should be angrier than they are.” Bob Corker
Oh I just love how in one breathe Republicans paint Obama as impotent but the next overreaching while all they’ve done for years is block any steps forward. Even on this blog our state finally gets an education bill but the silence was deafening. Dumb apes us versus them.
corker, again an example of a perhaps reasonable yet impossibly partisan angry republican:
“years of anger with the overreach of the Obama administration”
what a crock o’ sheit.
I found this pretty revealing – each not-Trump Republican presidential candidate in last night’s debate make it clear that they believe Trump to be unqualified to be President and that his election would hurt the American people. But if he is nominated by their party each said he would vote in favor of Trump – someone they believe to be unfit and who will harm the nation. I guess that reveals how much each candidate cares about America.
If moving America forward (despite having ti drag wingnuts along) is overreach,I’m for overreach. If trying to improve the lives of all citizens is overreach,again, I’m all for overreach. If overreach pisses off obstructionist,do-nothing wingnuts,then I say,”Hell,Yeah!”
As a business man worth close to 4 billion net worth, who owns a ton of companies, is a human. Sure he’s had stumbles along the way but did it bring him down? No he is now more powerful than ever.
Leader quality #1
He has companies and works with people of all different ethnicities globally. He has made thousands of jobs on his own accord! He can agree, negotitate, and MAKES MONEY at the same time. Doesn’t hide behind the media to cover himself up.
Leader quality #2
He understands how immigrants legally in the US have their jobs impacted as they compete against illegals for wages. That isn’t too hard to get is it? I lived 15 miles from the border had families come across our yard. In 1960 our economy could handle the flow of immigrants, now we have so many people here with essentially no cap our economy suffers.
Leader quality #3
Mitt Romney & everyone else involved with bringing down Trump has shown their true colors in corruption. They potentially have ruined the Republican Party by participating in disrespectful actions. You should support your running mates as to keep the party stable. Morons
Do I really need to continue? Donald Trump is the answer to a change in our corrupt congress. He’s pointed the finger and as it comes to a boil our government runs scared. Congress that would use race for example as a gateway to their corruption. Ruin lives at everyone’s expense.
It’s time for an American Revolution
Amazing how people with overwhelming student debt,can’t file bankruptcy when people like Drumpf use the bankruptcy courts to shield themselves from personal debts and come out of bankruptcy with more money than ever X 4. Then he claims he never filed bankruptcy and threatens to sue anyone that makes that claim.
Joe Lowe would have had a good chance to be Governor if women would had not voted with their vaginas and paid attention to what the Chief is saying. Foolish voters.
That’s hilarious, Ms. Moore.
Wismer’s choice of running mate was indeed quixotic.
I still laugh and laugh about that.
This Anthony guy needs to be deprogramed.
If Trump can’t work with the GOP party establishment he has proved he is not a leader, as Trump has said, a leader unites, not divides. Look at what and how Trump has put the GOP on life support.
Agreed, Roger. Anthony’s comment reads like the same superficial thoughtlessness I heard from a pro-Trump fantasist on NPR Weekend Edition Sunday this a.m.:
Yes, because the surest way to destroy an oligarchy is to elect a billionaire President.
Amazingly, Reid went on to criticize Trump for coming across as an “arrogant elitist.” He admits that Trump is not a social conservative but says “social conservatism can be put on hold for four years.” (Boy, I hope I can convince Dale Bartscher and Family Heritage Alliance to take that position and endorse me for Senate!)
But Reid clings to his Trump love on the assertion that “illegal immigration is the biggest problem that our country faces. It will destroy this country and our culture, and we must do something about it.” That’s an odd statement, considering that ITEP estimates that undocumented immigrants pay $4.25 million in state and local taxes in South Dakota and would contribute tens of thousands more if we fully implemented President Obama’s executive orders on immigration. Additionally…
I’m not seeing the crisis caused by undocumented workers. I’m just seeing Trump stir fear and loathing that trumps the rational analysis folks like Reid and Anthony might otherwise do.