KOTA-TV’s Yasser Kishk reports that the 45-turbine Willow Creek wind farm near Newell will bring 250 temporary construction jobs, a half-dozen permanent jobs, and $190,000 a year in tax revenue to Butte County… if developer Wind Quarry LLC can find a buyer for its power:
“We don’t have a signed power purchase agreement at this time… We hope to have off takers lined up my mid-year,” says John O’Meara Chief Operating Officer at Wind Quarry LLC.
Until that is signed they won’t break ground on the more than $200 million project, which Wind Quarry LLC expects to do before the end of 2016. The project will have a major impact on the local economy [Yasser Kishk, “3 Reasons Why There Are No Wind Farms West River and What the Future Holds,” KOTA-TV, 2016.03.02].
Wind Quarry talks about finding those “off takers” to take their power off to Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Illinois. But don’t people use electricity in Newell, Nisland, and Fruitdale? Isn’t Wind Quarry’s focus on exporting power akin to Demkota-née-New Angus-née-Northern Beef Packers’ building a business model on exporting beef to the global kosher and halal markets when they’ve got hungry farmers and bankers snarfing down steaks at Mavericks and the Flame right here in Aberdeen?
Public Utilities Commissioner Chris Nelson reminds us that wind power is a supplement, not a replacement:
“The important thing to remember with wind development is that, wind is going to be a part of the piece of the puzzle of supplying electricity in the future. Not to the exclusion of anything else, but an important piece of that puzzle along with hydro, along with solar, along with natural gas, and obviously some of the coal generation we currently have,” says Nelson [Kishk, 2016.03.02].
I understand energy security is a big puzzle relying on lots of reinforcing pieces. But wouldn’t it make sense to keep plugging South Dakota wind power into the South Dakota grid until the South Dakota grid is full? The dams and the coal plants have their high-capacity, long-distance transmission lines; let those generators focus on shipping their power long distances. Let wind power find its niche as a distributed, decentralized source for local users first, easing their reliance on imported power. Plug in, Newell!
The nice thing about wind power is the fact that it costs more to generate than it can be sold for on the grid. Which forces up the cost of electricity for those that can least afford it. Liberal greenies don’t care about the middle class or those living below middle class status even though those are the people they say they are sticking up for!
Screw the grid.
Former teevee host Ted Koppel has been an NPR contributor for decades and to pump his new book he sat for an interview on The Diane Rehm Show. Koppel is convinced that an inevitable cyber attack on the US could take down the grid for days, even months causing food shortages and mayhem.
http://southdakotaprogressive.blogspot.com/2015/11/kelley-talks-solarize-south-dakota-on.html
Transmission lines and eminent domain are moral hazards and not the self-reliance earth haters like Stu McFarland like to tout. Horizonal axis turbines are wildlife killers and eyesores.
Mr. kurtz, About ten thousand times (X 10,000) more birds are killed every day by CATS than by wind turbines. About twenty five times (X 25) more birds are killed every day by collisions with radio and cellular towers. Collisions with automobiles kill a thousand times (X 1,000) every day than do wind turbines. Collisions with buildings/windows kill three thousand times ( X 3,000) birds every day than do collisions with wind turbines.
If we built a thousand (1,000) new wind turbines, the resultant impact on the bird population would be to reduce the ratio to bird death by automobiles to 999:1, vs. 1,000:1. Any impact on the ratio to cat-caused bird deaths would be unnoticeable at all until one built 5,000 or so wind turbines. 45 turbines?? pfffftt.
The grid is a subsidized fraud run by the 1% for profit. Eliminate it.
South Dakota receives exactly zero dollars for the power generated by the main stem dams and all the energy goes out of state run by the Western Power Administration.
The federal government could put photovoltaic systems on every house in America for the same money it subsidizes the power companies to replace transmission lines and maintain the grid.
A small wind gen and solar cells on every roof, would not require massive overbuild of transmission and could possibly light regions if only minimally for basics. Lar is right, big wind costs more to build and maintain than it produces but makes for great profits for the step brothers of Haliburton.
We do keep most if not all wapa in state. Cali was after it big time and I haven’t heard they got it yet, Lar.
If you are going to build a wind farm you first have to ask and answer two questions. Who is going to buy this power, and how will I get it to them? I’m sure the company that is serving Newell SD right now has a huge investment in infrastructure to deliver electrons, as well as millions in power plants, and probably not all too excited to give up that load. A good wind turbine in South Dakota will produce about 35% of the time, solar about 20%. Until we get the battery storage from Tesla, it will be dependent on several sources for our power.
the grid is vulnerable. this was just posted:
http://energy.gov/epsa/downloads/climate-change-and-us-energy-sector-regional-vulnerabilities-and-resilience-solutions
I am thinking that Black Hills Power could buy the energy very easily and then use it to cut back on coal production,
jerry, Black Hills Energy is more likely to buy out these investors and keep burning cheap coal without cross-state pollution rules while they still can.
Did anyone else notice that Heather Wilson sits on the board of Peabody Energy and just recently got on Raven’s board?
Black Hills jacked up electric rates with the help of SD PUC, then announces it is going to build something like a $3 million new headquarters and purchases a natural gas company in Colorado. At the same time it is making sure that no solar or wind energy will ever touch its virgin lines.
Isolated power like that from wind generators should be used right here in SD to produce methanol and anhydrous ammonia and power other industry that does not need to run full blast for 24 hours every day of the year. Using that power here in SD will multiply the economic impact of that power.
Denmark has figured out a good system. The wind energy is used in the daytime for business, homes, etc. IN the middle of the night, it charges batteries in electric cars. The cars become the battery storage system without requiring utilities to invest millions or billions in storage systems.
Denmark’s area is about 3/5 of South Dakota’s.
That is interesting Larry, but so what? Denmark utilizes wind generators on islands in the ocean. We don’t have an ocean handy either.
The idea has a synergy aspect that seems to make sense. Any way that works to reduce fossil fuels would be better than what we are doing now.
Remote wind is a problem that SD PUC thinks can only be solved with power lines. Utilizing the power where it is generated to make portable fuels solves a number of problems.
Black Hills Corp is building a headquarters for a combination of companies and it is more like 70 +/-Mil, Wiken. Maybe one wind tower for your 3Mil blowviation. They run wind power in Colorado.
Would you rather they send their employees to Colorado and close offices in RC?
I believe it is natural gas they added and with all their coal generation going to nat gas, isn’t it ok to have that combination for our power resources in SD?
The negative economics of your fuel manufacturing is this. The wind blows you make some energy. The wind doesn’t blow you send your workers home. The wind blows …..then you ship all this high cost product to the market. Just buy it from the Saudis for less than the interest on your money, Douglas.
Your thoughts work wonderfully in the coal generation at Beulah ND for example. When excess Power is produced it is turned into propane, anhydrous with the coal rail at their door and a myriad of other opportunities and the employees don’t have to wait for the wind to blow for that to happen.
Black Hills Corp has paid dividends thanks to the PUC here in South Dakota. When have they ever denied a rate increase you may ask, when monkeys fly out of…http://seekingalpha.com/article/3043566-dividend-growth-stock-overview-black-hills-corporation
Every citizen of the state of South Dakota works for Black Hills Corp and pays them for that privilege. It is all about the moolah. http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/black-hills-corp-to-build-million-corporate-hq-in-rapid/article_5b2e9fb1-61bc-51d6-9938-610de376e2ba.html
The CEO only makes about 6 million a year, so they can barely afford to keep the lights on. http://www.reuters.com/finance/stocks/officerProfile?symbol=BKH&officerId=904916
“Any way that works to reduce fossil fuels would be better than what we are doing now.” dem
“Black Hills Corp is building a headquarters for a combination of companies and it is more like 70 +/-Mil….Would you rather they send their employees to Colorado and close offices in RC?.” repub
a worthy discussion? and this….
“WAPA keeps pwr in state.” hmmmm
talk about destroying a view shed…a 3-4 story reflective glass wall in front of Harney peak hundreds of feet above rapid city. it’ll be visible for 50 miles. bhp has grown 10-12 fold in 10 years. a utility, world-wide.
“blend in”
3-4 story….lol. Blend? I heard they were going to cammo it. It would have blended very well in Denver, lessy.
I tried to do the job for half, just to save them a few bucks, but they wouldn’t hear nuthin of that, Jerry.
BTW, when a native makes it big we want to knock them down and get em back on the rez where he belongs, Jerry.?? “”””As an enrolled member of the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe, Mr. Emery supports our Company’s interest in promoting diverse perspectives.”””
Jealousy? Why not excited to have a company with a local payroll who is publicly traded on our main street? Rates, prob no different than anywhere.
BHP has less than zero dollars in transmission lines, powerhouses, and equipment. Every item claimed to be owned by BHP was built, and is maintained by the customers. BHP is cost-plus, meaning they get whatever a job costs plus a built in profit for their investors.
We, the customers, own those lines and we pay dearly to maintain them, plus pay dividends every quarter to the stockholders for the privilege.
BHP’s goal of charging a fee to connect alternative energy production to the Grid is to bolster their contention that they own the lines for which they paid less than nothing. That and to discourage any competition to their monopoly.
How many on the PUC Board and in our Legislature own BHP Stocks?
There will be more jobs and payrolls in Alternative Energy than BHP has, and we won’t have to pay Stockholders who risk nothing, bankroll nothing, and reap reward every quarter without fail.
I thought about that before I wrote it Les, and know that it may offend some with that. It does not change the fact that we are paying a whole lot of money for power that could possibly be done differently regarding climate change. Me, I happen to think that climate change is real and is caused by humans and our insatiable desire for power. This fossil fuel burning has an effect on tribal members as well as everyone else on the planet. My point was not to do anything other than to point to the absurdity of how much this coal fired power costs and how the money is disbursed for a public utility that seeks rate increases at will. Here we see a wind farm that languishes because there are no buyers for the power and yet we are okay with the fact that coal is being burned along with natural gas because we have a business here that is listed on the stock exchange. We see the fact that the rules for exchanging fossil fuel for renewable is circumvented by sending those requirements to Colorado or to Iowa that bring jobs to those areas but none for here other than in a 70 million dollar office building. I guess I see something wrong with that. When profit on Wall Street is the driving force for utilities, we all loose.
last I saw emory makes $600k annually. unlike lackeys in dd’s admin. (mcec, regents, on and on…). emery is a persuasive name in the state. well earned as I see. likely underpaid but the size o’the salary supports jerry’s wizened explanation.
yer outta yer weight, leslita. fu, btw.
bf-I think I agree. shock!!
some days, editing on this site is wacky. anyone? (ferris bueller’s day off) didn’t yah get the rango reference, les? thot u were younger.
larry-les says wapa stays in state. saw your post was opposite. I used to work wapa issues so I gut question les, but so far don’t care enough to research. u know off top o’ yer head? just wondering.
A cost plus company, barry? Ns shirlock. Isn’t every company in biz cost plus if they are still in biz? Cry me a river big boy or buy Corp stock.
I doubt you did much wapa llessy or you’d know and understand wapa power commitments.
Sorry I forgot barry. We didn’t build that company. You win.
I think their cfo or position similar is a former Eagle Butte gal, Jerry.
With some experts complaining about bhp, I hear nothing about them providing reliable service at a profit that guarantees the quality will continue. Try that with wind and solar and remember your costs through most power companies include the negative return from mandated wind.
blend in
clip from rango)https://youtu.be/NYC257Rih0c
Yes, Les, the key word is profit. We all get that and until some right wing nut job gets eaten by a hungry shark or bitten by a zika carrying mosquito, we are doomed to think of the profits that can be netted by coal fired utilities having anything to do with climate change. If the Cubans can develop a drug that stops lung cancer in its tracks, we should be able to find a way to insure that we can get the most out of clean energy using renewable energy. I find it interesting that BHP can find ways to kill renewable energy projects in South Dakota http://dakotarural.org/bhpattackssolar/ while speaking the other way in Colorado https://www.blackhillsenergy.com/node/117319#.Vtt_oJwrLIU I think what they are saying is that South Dakota should just stand clear and let the mercury and other pollutants continue to foul our air and water as long as you are making your dividends in Colorado energy with the faulty renewables you speak of. How do they work so much better in Colorado than they would work here in South Dakota? Why are Colorado jobs more important than South Dakota jobs?
BHP is most likely saying, SD doesn’t require Jack so we build where It is required, Jerry. “”””””Colorado’s renewable energy requirement that 30 percent of Black Hills Energy’s electricity come from renewable resources by 2020.”””””
Our legislature needs to make the step up if that is what our residents expect.
My biz doesn’t cashflow like a similar biz in Cali so why would I run to invest in costly Cali procedure until my profits allow it? Everyone knows we are 20 years behind most other states so it will probably happen. Just not while you and I live, Jer. ;)
Of course you are correct and that is the point. South Dakota legislature and all of its trappings are in cahoots with this establishment behemoth that rules the day here. Rate increase, no problem, how much do you want and when do you want it, just ask. Real jobs are here for the service industry that caters to the touristas and CAFO polluters and that is what we want to keep here. The last thing South Dakota needs is for middle class workers to start to question the status quo. Keep us poor and in the dark like mushrooms while feeding us the crap to sustain us barely. This BHP is not a good neighbor Les, they are anything but that. Their business plan is a good one as long as the politicians are in their pocket. The bigger you are the farther you fall. Sometimes, there is a change in the wind (pun intended) and the skyscraper can topple.
57-67% of wapa’s $ 1 billion budget goes to 10% 0f its employees to market power wholesale to 15 states. SD dams likely generate the most but les the resident know it all republican here is sure most if not all power generated here stays here. long term customers in the states are municipalities, government, tribes and 4-5% goes to private power brokers god knows where. revenues are 1.2 bil and expenses are 1.2 bil annually using 2014 numbers.
this reflects on $70,000,000,000 BHP/BHE new utility company building/ campus shining on the ridge above RC blocking every one else’s view and blinding interstate travelers with 3-4 stories of glass. helicopter pad??
Wonder if WAPA has such a castle in its Denver headquarters, or watertown office?
Attorneys may be able to get away with your math, lessy but thank God most accountants cannot! 70,000,000,000.00=70Mil. Not.
Back on Wikepedie for more worthless info honey?
Les,
No need to be vulgar and abusive. If you don’t know what “cost plus” is you should look it up so you don’t look foolish. It means the powerful monopoly, BHP, has zero risk with a profit guaranteed by the PUC, paid as dividends to investors who risk nothing, and pay for nothing. Such contract providers usually have a lackadaisical attitude towards costs and frequently have cost over-runs paid for by someone else.
From Wiki:
A cost-plus contract, also termed a cost reimbursement contract, is a contract where a contractor is paid for all of its allowed expenses to a set limit plus additional payment to allow for a profit.
My point is:
We paid 100% of the cost for every foot of wire, every pole, every truck, every transformer, every pension plan for every worker and we have the right to use the Grid to sell at a fair market value, our extra power from our solar panels, wind turbines, or any other method we might use to produce energy.
Yes, Barry Obama Freed. They didn’t build their business. Just like all the rest of us didn’t. Splain vulgarity to me. I think John Wayne describes you best.
In that 70 many zero’s dollar crystal cathedral being constructed in Rapid City, what will that do? Will there be analysts there? Can you mansplain that to me Les?
Not without vulgarity, Jer.
Good call, then as someone who collects dividends from this, you should ask why they need the new cathedral when they already have one that is probably paid for. A 70,000,000.00 office building to do what? The financial wizards are all automating and preparing further automation of their office staffs. Seems like this may be a big building for a couple of guys and gals with the rest of the rooms being used for computer banks. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/28/magazine/the-robots-are-coming-for-wall-street.html?_r=0
What makes you so intuitively sure I’m collecting dividends from Black Hills Corp, Jerry. I pay an amount to BHP far greater than the average Joe annually but not into stock purchases.
If you are reading or watching the media, you would know they purchased a company for 1.5B or more. I’m guessing now but maybe they have 2500 employees plus or minus??? I would think they could have chosen to put that building lessy hates to think about anywhere in the country but Rapid City. I don’t know but would guess how many employees a Billion buck company could bring to the payroll could be from 500-1000. 70Mil alone going into the local economy for the building is a good case for the biz plan but the number of local employees that cathedral will house is beyond that by any compare, Jer. Happy Easter.
Barry, you have paid 100% of the cost of any business I’ve owned over my 60 plus years. I hope you came back time after time because I gave you something of similar value for your cash investment. If not, I’m sorry you didn’t have the sense to stop utilizing my services.
And to think that Butte County could use that 190,000.00 chump change for things like roads and equipment and stuff like that and maybe even have some extra from the construction that would be accompanying that wind farm to give their employees a little raise. In the meantime, we have the contaminants and the greenhouse emissions that are killing the planet being dismissed as if they do not exist. Trouble is they do exist and this wind farm could help hold some of that back.
I think that BHP already has a large multi story building in Rapid City that the good people of South Dakota built for them already. The fact that they now have purchased another company for a billion plus is more reason than ever to believe they are charging to damn much for the utility. How can they come hat in hand to the legislature and get a rate increase when they have so much cash they refuse to even consider a local purchase of wind power? Makes no sense unless they do not want to show that the wind will be simpler, cheaper and less polluting than the dirty coal they want us to keep breathing. I think that if you are paying so much for your utilities you should call them an chew them out instead of bragging about the success of lobbying.
Pfsst! so much for meaningful discussion, les.
while barry gets all butt hurt when the sexualized arms industry kills another unarmed kid while he’s carrying in starbux; you do when offended when reminded by the perfect president of the time elected by the poor and weak but despised by your three amigos, tn&r, that your success fails to acknowledge the vast infrastructure unarmed hundreds of millions of minorities pay for.
heels hurt les? always been smug? wsj, nova, faux news are not reliable sources. all they do is make it harder to vote. bad strategy.
carl said meellions and meellions when he meant billions. exaggeration makes a point. it did here. successfully. http://sploid.gizmodo.com/hilariously-absurd-carl-sagan-video-proves-that-lsd-is-1646781973
I remember building the journey for $10 million after adelstein ect. insisted on an austerity vasectomy, removing the identifying sail. no vision. the journey struggles on.
since you are all of 60 and so proud of it, you remember when our defense budget was $8 billion? your precious B-1s are $600,000,000 each. cheney’s plastic B-2 is $2 billion. For FYs 1998-2010 the Department of Defense’s financial statements were either unauditable or such that no audit opinion could be expressed .[59][60][61][62][63][64][65][66][67][68][69][70] wiki
who is gonna do something about that? lawyers. now bhp/bhe ect has grown by 10xs in 10 years. sounds like some “white collared conservative” country club accountants like their cigars and rye too much. fat cats. big fish in a little pool. the establishment republican 1%. didn’t like them in 1966 and don’t like ’em now.
btw: here’s a bit more “useless” wiki-
The first direct observation of gravitational waves, from merger of black holes (announced by the LIGO and Virgo collaborations on 11 February 2016[27][28][29]), direct measurement of their speed. The deviation of the speed of gravitational waves (vg) from the speed of light (c) can be parameterized in terms of the mass of the hypothetical graviton. The graviton is an elementary particle that plays the role of force carrier in quantum theories about gravity, and is expected to be massless. If it was not massless, gravitational waves would propagate below lightspeed, with lower frequencies (ƒ) being slower than higher frequencies, leading to dispersion of the waves from the merger event.[30] No such dispersion was observed.[30][31] The observations of the inspiral give an upper limit on the mass of the graviton of 2.1×10−58 kg, corresponding to 1.2×10−22 eV/c2 or a Compton wavelength (λg) of greater than 1013 km, roughly 1 light-year.[27][30] Using the lowest observed wave frequency of 35 Hz, this translates to a lower limit on vg such that the upper limit on 1-vg /c is ~ 4×10−19.[note 1]
1.Based on v_g^2/c^2 = 1-\tfrac{c^2}{\lambda_g^2 f^2}….
gee, and you think wiki sucks….
pay big utility bills, eh les? big fossil fuel footprint keeping u up at night?
I noticed bhp/bhe news at their website says nothing about its black hills fires. wiki does.
“The plaintiffs blamed the pole collapse on negligent maintenance by Black Hills Power, but the company denied the accusation.
The climax of the lawsuit appeared to happen in November 2015 when the plaintiffs accused Black Hills Power of deliberately concealing the existence of the fallen tree that was believed to be the fire’s ignition source.
The plaintiffs claimed Black Hills Power discovered the tree on the company’s right-of-way one
The plaintiffs claimed Black Hills Power discovered the tree on the company’s right-of-way one month after the fire began and then hid its existence for 16 months. During those 16 months, the plaintiffs claimed, the tree was cut up and Black Hills Power lost or destroyed the portion of the tree top that was believed to have struck the power line.”
integrity. 3-4 stories of glass blocking and blinding the view for 50 miles “because we can”.
herman cain, the tea party and rcj
Living in your head must be pure hell, leslie. Does it cause the same hell for those you love if love is even possible with so much hate?
Les I just ignore them 99% of the time. Life is too short. :)
Jerry @”” Trouble is they do exist and this wind farm could help hold some of that back.””
When wind energy functions at best it is energy production neutral, Jerry, meaning it produces no energy over its cost and that is with the modern systems in place. Of course for all who wish a biz to operate with no profit that may be fine.
As I stated earlier, put small generation on every rooftop and our transmission system needs few to no upgrades and yes, BHP would not be entirely happy about that.
We all have belief systems, Lynn and some are more impenetrable than others. I’m pretty bull headed my self at times. Imagine a guy like leslie calling Trump fascist.
les when u don’t have the facts, argue the law ect. when all else fails, I believe what you just did is referred to ad hominum attacks (1. name calling, 2. attack family)
wiki it. saves time.
still think all wapa stays in the state?
still think bhp deserves an alter?
Les, what is energy over cost compared to the seeing Florida disappear with the rising water? http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/environment/article41416653.html I don’t know if you have been to the east coast lately like Florida or North Carolina, but high tide is not looked at with much fun these days. In Miami, streets flood. In Norfolk, Virginia, the Navy port for the Atlantic, it is getting dangerous https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/in-norfolk-evidence-of-climate-change-is-in-the-streets-at-high-tide/2014/05/31/fe3ae860-e71f-11e3-8f90-73e071f3d637_story.html Climate change is real Les, and cost neutral on energy is not as simple as it may have been 20 years ago. The wind farm in Butte County generates tax dollars to help local government, how is that not considered as part of energy cost effectiveness as well. It also develops jobs. Jobs help main street more than corporate greed. Why am I always granting BHP rate increases when then could simply use what is here for our needs?
The king of ad hominem attacks claims I attack family. Speculating that your family possibly lives in the same hell you must live in caused your hate and anger hardly qualifies as an attack on them. You get the twistit award today, leeslee!
Yes, Jerry, ice ages have come and gone. Climate change is real and I believe we really share some blame. So does Mt St Helen. I argue against making that change overnight and ruining any possibility for it to happen without societal breakdown. But, if you want it overnight, that is your right to do so. There is clean coal power in ND at one plant. It can be done.
Can I get an Amen for the same concern for Gov Rounds building in the flood plain as for those in Florida building in the swamp, Jer?
Your boys will be debating down there in Florida real quick like. Mayors and other civic leaders have begged for climate change questions for your gang, but it is real, real doubtful that will happen. Mt. St. Helens was a along time ago Les, we have been screwing things up big time since then all around the world. Speaking of that, in Europe they are now wrong as you are like the American Congress in believing that climate change is no big deal. The crazy Europeans thought it was just the American congress, I will tell them that it is that plus Les. Clean coal in Notre Dame? Who ever heard? Or are you talking about this one across the border in Canada from North Dakota http://grist.org/climate-energy/turns-out-the-worlds-first-clean-coal-plant-is-a-backdoor-subsidy-to-oil-producers/
I am not sure as to how Mike Rounds was allowed to build in the flood plain. Then I am not sure about how Mike Rounds or his sidekick Joop, did not get prosecuted for the EB5 corruption either. I guess that there will have to be some answers to their connections coming up near that flood plain built house along the river though. Were you in the amen corner for Mike when the water came up?
I believe it is one of Basin Electrics plants near Beulah.
Cali is clean, Jer. But why is Orange county air so orange?
I try to live in the Amen corner, Jer. Do you enjoy others misfortune? Schadenfreude?
NOT THAT I CARE, BUT….
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/robert-reich-donald-trump-21st-century-american-fascist
http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Robert-Reich/2016/0309/Opinion-The-American-fascist
also, your elected senator, mike rounds, while not paying attention to frauds in the state involving EB5 ($600,000,000.0000000000) and MCEC (gee whiz we have NO idea how much….”), also apparently wasn’t paying attention learning to fly instruments, as governor during 8 years of WAPA/USACOE state relations, to realize that building a trophy house with a view below the largest earthen dam site in the world, might carry some risk of flooding.
kinda like saying “bring it on”, like your George Bush, brainiac that he was, infamously said.
finally, I note whispering in Lynn’s ear about orange county air pollution in the most polluted basin in the world, after a 3 1/2 month long gas leak (kinda like the 3 1/2 month long gulf oil leak) both of which dems, not republicans take responsibility for cleaning up. ultimately u blame 1980’s volcanic eruption (I was there). is lynn a climate change denier too?