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Flandreau Whacks Weed For Now

Potheads planning to go Indian in Flandreau need to look for different New Year’s Eve plans. The Flandreau Santee Sioux Tribe yesterday suspended its marijuana operation, citing the need to straighten out legal differences with the state and the feds.

Drivers trying to get downwind of the smoke rising from Flandreau yesterday p.m. may have been disappointed: Jonathan Hunt, VP of consulting firm and tribal pot partner Monarch America, says the fire reported near the tribal grow op was wood, not the tribal stash. Hmm… will Monarch and the tribe provide evidence that they have destroyed the marijuana they have grown so far, or should the Highway Patrol be watching for vans hauling contraband out of Moody County to Denver or other markets?

Also not on fire: Monarch America’s stock.

Monarch America stock value 2014–2015, as of 2015.11.08
Monarch America stock value 2014–2015, as of 2015.11.08

Monarch America shares began the year trying to stay over a dollar; now they’d be lucky to get back to a dime. Monarch stock lost 90% of its already well-diminshed value over the last two weeks, closing Friday at seven tenths of a penny. Hmm… depressed executives… maybe that’s where the Flandreau pot is going.

One of Flandreau’s state legislators, Rep. Mathew Wollmann (R-8/Madison), tells that Sioux Falls paper he’s surprised Flandreau suspended its pot plan, but notes that he’s heard lots of opposition to the tribal toke-up:

“Quite frankly, nine out of 10 people that I’ve spoken to about the issue were not in favor of it,” he said. “I think they had a lot more pushback than they expected. … Maybe they’re waiting for a better environment” [Mark Walker and Katie Nelson, “Flandreau Tribe Temporarily Suspending Marijuana Operations,” that Sioux Falls paper, 2015.11.07].

Nine in ten against? Either Rep. Wollmann has some selection bias (does our Republican Representative get out and talk with a representative sample of his constituency?); local folks don’t like to see the Red Man get ahead, man; or there really is a lot less support for chemically blurring reality than proponents of marijuana would have us believe (says a writer who lives in the tenth-most binge-drinkingest state in the Union… and who notices that Moody County is in the worst 10% of counties nationwide for binge drinking among men and women).

Attorney General Marty Jackley says the tribe’s suspension of its pot plans is a “positive” step, avoiding the legal snarl sure to ensue if non-Indians buy and use pot on tribal land in violation of South Dakota law. But pro-pot ex-pat Emmett Reistroffer tugs at our holiday heartstrings:

“The attorney general is basically telling me and other South Dakotans who have moved away to states where marijuana is legal that we are technically not allowed to come home for the holidays. If I go to South Dakota for Christmas, just because I have marijuana in my bloodstream, I am a walking felon because I could be charged at any time,” Emmett Reistroffer said, a marijuana advocate living in Denver [“Santee Sioux Tribe Suspends Marijuana Operation,” KELO-TV, 2015.11.07].

Emmett almost got me there… almost. South Dakota isn’t telling our Colorado ex-pats that they can’t come home for the holidays. They just have to be clean when they do and leave the bong at home.

And now the Flandreau Santee Sioux Tribe is telling them they won’t be able to drop by the casino for a pick-me-up (calm-me-down? chill-me-out?) on New Year’s Eve.

193 Comments

  1. larry kurtz 2015-11-08 08:30

    Republicans are evil.

  2. caheidelberger Post author | 2015-11-08 08:57

    …which relates to this post because… that’s why Emmett isn’t coming home for Christmas?

    I won’t call you evil if you can’t stop smoking for a couple weeks just to come visit your family. But I might call you an addict, or at least say your priorities are out of whack.

  3. WaynF 2015-11-08 08:59

    Larry,

    Most of the Republicans I know are not evil … just misguided. Many of the elected ones are simply “bought off.”

    Crossing fingers that the Feds will find out about Rounds’s and Daugaards’s role in the EB-5 cover-up.

    Wish AG Marty Jackley would pay as much attention to this case as he did to the GEAR UP suicide-murder. Think it’ll happen?

    It would be wonderful if we could balance the parties in our state legislature and elect at least one Democrat to represent us in Washington.

  4. larry kurtz 2015-11-08 09:01

    This is far from being over.

  5. larry kurtz 2015-11-08 09:03

    I have elevated intraocular pressure that can’t be treated with legal pharmaceuticals.

  6. El Rayo X 2015-11-08 09:09

    Talk about massive misdirection. Am I the only one who sees that this whole pot operation was sunk by the bowling lobby? You just don’t take a couple of lanes out of operation and expect no repercussions. You don’t mess with league night, that’s how they roll.

  7. larry kurtz 2015-11-08 09:11

    If my priorities are out of whack are former USA Tim Purdon’s?

    Tim Purdon: “If DEA will destroy HEMP at Menominee, Santee in tuff spot. Why double standard for tribes vs. states????”

  8. mike from iowa 2015-11-08 09:36

    One day this feller from Washington come by
    And he spied us and he turned white as a sheet
    And he dug and he burned
    And he burned and he dug
    And he killed all our cute little weeds
    Then he drove away
    We just smiled and waved
    Sittin’ there on that sack of seeds
    Y’all come back now, ya hear

    Jim Stafford and “Wildwood Weed” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I28sQls3R9A

  9. Thomas 2015-11-08 11:53

    Say what you want. Speculate as wildly as you can. But, in the end, someone is making money off of this, no doubt in my mind. It may be someone in tribal government or it may be the Monarch America company, but if the operation was suddenly suspended yesterday then that weed was already on the road somewhere else.

  10. Porter Lansing 2015-11-08 12:09

    Excellent decision by the Santee Tribe. SoDak has no need for legal weed. The elephant in the room that seems to be ignored due to “everybody’s wife is doing it”, is prescription pain pill abuse.

  11. Porter Lansing 2015-11-08 12:37

    Many seem to think that in “Stalag Dakota” it’s now constitutional to detain people and demand their bodily fluid for drug testing. Not being familiar with him but Patrick Duffy must be smiling in that big pub in the sky.

  12. larry kurtz 2015-11-08 12:57

    …A stent is contraindicated after two cataract and three retina surgeries.

  13. leslie 2015-11-08 13:06

    medicaid expansion for the poor stents, anyone? anyone? daugaard? 58,000 stents would be good for business in SD. meanwhile, 30-90 deaths a year of our relatives while daugaard wrings his hands.

  14. caheidelberger Post author | 2015-11-08 13:09

    Thomas’s concern nags at me. If the tribe didn’t burn the pot, where did it go? This feels like Norther Beef Packers.

  15. Porter Lansing 2015-11-08 13:37

    They’re making it into hash. Then it can be smuggled out in a suitcase in the middle of the night. Better send in the SWAT team, now. Pat Powers will volunteer. He’s always been a “cop sniffer” and would love to put on a ballistic suit.

  16. John 2015-11-08 14:09

    RE: coming from Colorado. If routed through the Denver airport, consider telling government askers it was stop-over from elsewhere. It may be just a matter of time until the SD police-prosecutorial-prison industrial complex has drug dogs routinely or not-so-randomly sniffing arriving luggage and / or forcing urinalysis on passengers (to prosecute that-all-so-state-saving vital imaginary crime of ‘ingesting’).

    If driving, consider telling government askers you were in anyplace other than Colorado – if not, be prepared for the full-drug-dog-monty, hours of delays (at best), jail and court appearances (at worst). You live in a quasi-police state. Comport yourself accordingly.

    The plausible reason the feds treat reservations different from the states regarding weed is systemic racism.

  17. Bob Newland 2015-11-08 15:49

    Sometimes I have to just bang my head against the wall. All this talk of “where did the cannabis go?” I was at the Flandreau grow Tuesday night last. The amount of useable weed in their grow room was about equal to what goes by on I-90 every 3.3 seconds.

    Who cares where it went? If it’s on the market somewhere, great!

  18. Kris Sopwith 2015-11-08 16:39

    dude no way! me n my roomies were gonna go to santee in jan to show our support. haters gonna hate and ya can’t talk bad about this unless ya tried it. we partake as much as we can and its sick!

    we gotta all vote different and go with the green party vs the corporate parties and stick it to the man!

    awesome blog we can all hang!

    STONERS RULE!

  19. caheidelberger Post author | 2015-11-08 17:01

    Forgive me, Kris, but I hear irony in your voice. Are you serious or satirical?

    I find “Can’t knock it ’til you try it” a fallacy. I’ve never tried bestiality, polygamy, genocide, or binge-drinking, but I know those harmful activities are not for me and have the right to criticize them.

    Stoners appear to be incapable of ruling anything.

  20. larry kurtz 2015-11-08 17:03

    Define harmful, CAH.

  21. larry kurtz 2015-11-08 17:04

    How is polygamy harmful?

  22. larry kurtz 2015-11-08 17:06

    How is bestiality harmful? And linking genocide to binge-drinking is how South Dakota was founded.

  23. caheidelberger Post author | 2015-11-08 17:12

    I’m making a specific point about sloppy thinking, Larry. I don’t have to “try” a harmful activity to study it and determine that it is harmful (physically, emotionally, morally, politically,…?). We could debate about whether polygamy or bestiality is harmful (and please, let’s not) and come to valid conclusions without actually taking multiple wives or chasing sheep.

  24. larry kurtz 2015-11-08 17:13

    You know what’s harmful? Limiting women’s civil rights, droning kids in Sudan from Ellsworth, polluting the Big Sioux, James and Cheyenne Rivers with human filth, paying teachers subsistence wages and letting the Republican war machine control my home state: that’s what’s harmful.

  25. larry kurtz 2015-11-08 17:14

    You live to think sloppily, Cory.

  26. larry kurtz 2015-11-08 17:17

    Multiple wives at the same time is illegal. Taking multiple wives over forty years is America.

  27. grudznick 2015-11-08 17:19

    I just knew Lar and my good friend Bob would be all bent out of sorts today and I tried to send them a bouquet to mellow them. Both are being sent to Hot Springs so I hope Bob can keep the plants alive until Lar’s next visit to deliver some goods or until Bob’s next corporate-narc road trip to the American southwest.

  28. grudznick 2015-11-08 17:23

    The Volunteers of America have stepped up their anti-pot promotional campaign. Shockling, that libbie organization seems to be winning its war against the demon weed.

  29. larry kurtz 2015-11-08 17:25

    I’m beginning to believe that grud is not Dennis Anderson from Wall and Lynn is not from Mitchell but Cory’s alter egos instead of Pat’s.

  30. grudznick 2015-11-08 18:08

    Nobody can read Mr. Mercer’s postings on the Aberdeen website because it is slowly dying and has blocked itself off from the world to wriggle to death in privacy. Pot is dying too, and the inability of most potheads to be constructive members of society will wriggle them into deeper fringes of society. This is but another tolling of the bell for the death of the demon weed.

  31. Porter Lansing 2015-11-08 18:21

    Mitchell? No wonder. And Wall? That’s not even a town.

  32. Kris 2015-11-08 18:38

    no joke! free the plant! corporations don’t want it free. it frees the people!

  33. Roger Cornelius 2015-11-08 19:45

    So, can we expect 221 comments here like on the last pot post of people insulting each other and saying basically the same thing they say on any post regarding pot?

  34. Bob Newland 2015-11-08 19:46

    Let’s hope so, Rog.

  35. Blue living in a red state 2015-11-08 20:03

    Cory,
    Emmett is correct. If someone smoked pot in state where it’s legal, then they are picked up for a different offense and a blood test is given, that person could be slapped with a congestion fine in SD.

  36. grudznick 2015-11-08 20:03

    Mr. C, I have hopes that weed toking or non-weed toking, the people will become mellower and more friendly towards one another. It is the uglier side of weed that gets people all violent and wanting to fight and such. From this point forward, I submit that only the insanest will comment in an uncivil manner on this pot issue. So sayeth grudznick.

  37. Porter Lansing 2015-11-08 20:04

    Why do you think marijuana is such a popular subject? Is it because many believe their way is the only right way? Or because it’s illegal and thus attractive? Or because here you can be anonymous and the cops won’t track you down for what you think? Or because … ???

  38. Porter Lansing 2015-11-08 20:31

    Excuse me, but what type of offense in SoDak gives cops the right to blood test? People have privacy rights as long as the state is part of USA. I would think only possession of pot would allow a blood test. But, I know for sure that cops plant pot in cars to get a probable cause and right wing judges overlook it.

  39. grudznick 2015-11-08 20:54

    Mr. Lansing, if you have a driver’s license and look cross-eyed at a cop or some whacked out libbie on the street points a finger at you the cops can draw your blood like a vampire.

    Cops should bonk potters on the head with their sticks.

  40. caheidelberger Post author | 2015-11-08 21:53

    Blue, Emmett is legally correct but morally questionable. How long do detectable, prosecutable amounts of marijuana remain in the user’s body? How long would Emmett have to forswear his high in order to safely travel to visit the people he loves in South Dakota?

    Larry, drop that believe right now. I comment under my own name and no one else’s.

    Besides, I don’t need an alter ego; the one I have is big enough. :-D

  41. Spike 2015-11-08 22:13

    According to the National Institute on Drug Abuse 35% of 12th graders used marijuana in 2014. Holy smokes….they all broke the law.

    Let’s say south dakota 12th graders party at half the level(ya right) of other states. 17%

    Lock them all up. Then they won’t be the teachers, carpenters, doctors, firefighters, bloggers n even attorneys of the next 20 years.

    The same stuff was happening in the 70’s. The 80’s, the 90’s, etc.

    I don’t like it. It’s not good for the youth. But why can the Feds mess with the tribes while the whole Frickin states of Washington n Colorado are high as hell?

    Anybody know how many people are in jail in SD for possession, possession with intent to distribute, etc?

    The impacts of legalization are of course both good n bad.

    HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THIS BLOG KNOW SOMEONE THAT PARTICIPATED IN THE ABOVE ACTIVITY N WERE NOT CAUGHT? YOU ARE CONSPIRATORS. I hope you sleep tonite. The demon weed.

    Flandreau sure got the conversation going didn’t they?

  42. Neal 2015-11-08 23:57

    The tribe got word they would be raided by the feds, so they temporarily pulled the plug to prevent damage to their facility and investment. As soon as they lay a little more legal and political groundwork they’ll be back.

    http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2015/11/08/flandreau-santee-sioux-tribe-burns-crop-suspends-marijuana-operation-162363

    Emmett’s blood and urine will have THC in it for around a month. It matters not where he consumed the marijuana; the moment he crosses the state line he subjects himself to a year in jail and $1000 in fines.

  43. caheidelberger Post author | 2015-11-09 04:45

    Interesting, Neal. So why would Monarch VP Hunt have said the fire wasn’t the pot? Avoiding a federal raid and trying to maintain good faith with the feds offers a plausible counter to the concerns above that maybe the tribe was shipping the first crop out as contraband for profit. FST isn’t making money off this first crop; they’re trying to keep from losing their investment in the grow op.

    Emmett knows the rules and the science. He can make his choices about what’s more important, weed or family.

  44. Kris 2015-11-09 04:49

    spike all my frends do and those who dont gotta try it!!!!!!!!! haters heds are in the sand! we are evrywere!!!

  45. caheidelberger Post author | 2015-11-09 05:13

    Kris, really? Give me a break. The word “haters” alone signals either irony or paucity of thought. The suggestion that people have an obligation to try your drug of choice suggests the same. Say such a thing in front of my child (“Hey, kid! Do drugs, or you’re a hater!”), and I will ask you to leave.

    Drugs are not a noble cause. They are a waste of time, which is why I decline to offer any assistance to the legalization effort. Marijuana just isn’t that important to the fate of the Republic.

  46. larry kurtz 2015-11-09 07:13

    Kris: this blog isn’t the place to advocate for personal choices. You will get better results engaging the Argus Leader and other media outlets where your voice can get maximum exposure.

  47. larry kurtz 2015-11-09 07:16

    Cory has no latitude to call out a sovereign nation for its choices.

  48. Ken Santema 2015-11-09 08:28

    What I think Emmett is referring to is South Dakota’s ingestion law. Having any amount of THC in your blood or urine can be used to prosecute someone. South Dakota is the only State to have such a law. True, law enforcement still has to have probable cause. Neither the AG’s office or Moody County Sheriff’s office had not ruled out that law enforcement would be watching people leave the lounge or if that would count as probable cause. If law enforcement will do that with the lounge, will they also start doing that with cars or airplane flights coming from Colorado?

  49. Bob Newland 2015-11-09 08:39

    Ken Santema says “…will they also start doing that with cars or airplane flights coming from Colorado?”

    They already are, Ken.

    Jackley has told his Highway Patrolmen they no longer need to get their dogs to “alert” when walking around a car. All the cop needs to do is say, “I smelled pot.” That constitutes “articulable suspicion,” which justifies throwing the contents of the car in the borrow pit. If contraband is found, it was good law enforcement work. If no contraband is found, the cop tells the poor bastard whose underwear is in the ditch to be more careful next time.

  50. Porter Lansing 2015-11-09 08:40

    Mr. Santema … In response, may I attempt to “represent” for my state of CO? At last poll, 14% of the citizens smoke or use marijuana. (62% voted to legalize) Would 14% constitute probable cause in the collective and misinformed mind of SoDak? I don’t know the makeup of your Supreme Court but a reasonable court would not agree with that assertion. Not that CO isn’t proud of our marijuana law and the quality product being grown. The last poll showed 70% want the law to remain but our reputation as “everyone is high all the time” isn’t quite accurate. I lived and visit in ESD and West River long enough to know how many people get high and it’s probably around 15-20%.

  51. Ken Santema 2015-11-09 08:52

    Bob,
    I’ve heard reports it happened during Sturgis, but was unable to find any way to prove it (especially since I live on the other side of the state). I think getting rid of the ingestion law may be a good place to lobby the legislature this year.

    Mr Lansing,
    I don’t think the ingestion law should be used at all. And further I don’t think MJ should be illegal on any level, so I don’t think there is any reasonable probable cause to detain, arrest, or prosecute anyone. And yes, I know the state of CO isn’t a big weedfest. I’ve been to Colorado a few times since legalization was implemented, it doesn’t seem any different than it did before.

  52. Porter Lansing 2015-11-09 10:12

    Mr. Santema,
    Sir,
    You are a true Libertarian and a man of reason among knee-jerks. I applaud you.
    I would wager an ingestion law would be struck down by promptly SCOTUS as they have done with so many poorly thought out statutes the state has tried to put over on the citizens.
    An analogy would be assuming every car with Kentucky plates had a DUI driver. To expand, less than half Kentucky citizens drink it but nearly all are quite proud of their state’s fine bourbon. CO is similar with our MJ. PS… Martin Jackley would be a poor Governor.

  53. Bob Newland 2015-11-09 10:16

    See pictures shot last Tuesday at the Flandreau grow op, before the plants were massacred out of fear that the plants would be massacred.

    https://www.facebook.com/bob.newland

  54. Porter Lansing 2015-11-09 10:24

    Don’t see the photos, Mr. Newland. Do see a photo of the “very beatable” Rep. Schoenbeck and his duct taped pant’s legs.
    Very nice artwork, sir.

  55. Porter Lansing 2015-11-09 10:37

    Thank-you, Mr. Newland
    For the inquiring mind of Mr. Heidelberger … there’re no buds on those plants which makes their value zero. Tons of weed in that state are thrown away every week in CO or made into wax (do your own research on that, if you care to). PS: Every marijuana plant in CO has a state licensed identification tag and is under video surveillance every minute of it’s life. That’s because every retail outlet has to grow their own and should the need arise (contaminated product or a question of origin) every gram of weed can be traced from clone to bud.

  56. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-09 11:03

    ” Drugs are not a noble cause. They are a waste of time, which is why I decline to offer any assistance to the legalization effort. Marijuana just isn’t that important to the fate of the Republic.”

    Like it or not, cannabis in both it medical and recreational form will be a part of South Dakotas future. If you want to be a political leader you will just have to face that reality. Dont you even recignize how your view relates to that of legalization? If not let me help you out.

    If cannabis were to be legalized, I’m sure that you would refuse any moneies that tax would bring in to help pay the teachers more, that is if your feelings are that strong on the subject.

    Lets move on to other things. Sometime during your life someone in your family will have an illness that might successfully be treated with cannabis, or with luck maybe not. Sometime during your lifetime you, or your wife, or your little girl might have a medical condition that wont respond to conventional therapy. If that happenes, and it might have been possible to treat that condition with cannabis to relieve the symptoms, we could expect you as a moral, political leader not to be hypocritical, but to refuse any treatment that came from a cannabis plant. If its life or death we can expect you to stick to your guns and just suffer. Let me repeat myself here. If your little girl was dieing and there was even a small chance that some form of cannabis could ease her suffering we can have a reasonable expectation that you Cory will let your child suffer instead of trying to ease her pain. That sounds like the people you campaign against.

    Reality check. Using all the statistics at hand, before your daughter graduates from high school she will try pot, she will also drink some fire water, and if she is normal she will have sex with at least one boy or girl. Your saying that cannabis use doesnt effect you, maybe its time to reevaluate your actual knowledge on the subject just to give her a fighting chance.

    If you dont understand the problem you will never lead, you’ll just set around and bitch.

    I have come to the conclusion that the fringe from both the left and right, not just one or the other, are the main cause of our problems in this country. Both claim “moral higher ground. On the one side are claims that they are sanctioned by God, whoever that is. On the other side are those that worship at the alter of feel good about yourself, and neither one of those is healthy for thr republic.

    You Cory want to do things that a super majority in SD dont want to do. You have banged that damn drum until not even the moderates in the demacratic party want anything to do with or for the party.

    This blog gets a lot of visitors. Im just curious why with these issues that are so important to the native people are there only two or three that comment here? If Roger has the pull he talks about there should be twenty here every damn day talking about what they think will help, where are those indians anyway?

    I cant remember where I read this this morning but it is sure true. When asked about sovereignty one tribal official stated that the tribe is only as sovereign as the federal government lets it be. No truer statement has ever been made.

    Cory, if you want to get something out of politics, dont stand so close to the cliff, those moderates dont want to follow you if you slip over the edge.

    The Blindman

  57. Porter Lansing 2015-11-09 11:08

    Is it appropriate to enter a person’s child into ANY political conversation? I’d say NO. Your point can be made (with a few brain cell stretches) without the reference.

  58. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-09 11:18

    No Porter they cant.

    The Blindman

  59. leslie 2015-11-09 11:20

    bd- like cory, i have no interest in drugs. i am not that kind of addict. luck of the draw.

    medicine is a big word. cancer. do drugs help? not much, or not at all. folks that carry water for drugs obviously have a reason. it must work for them. 10% of the population. many of my friends. doesn’t work for me and perhaps the 90%. meh. its likely the kid that doesn’t try pot, or does with no come-to-jesus result, doesn’t have an emotional/mental hole that needs filling. nature/nurture?

    being an idealist is a swim against the current. (obviously drugs includes alcohol and pot, though they are not quite the same)

  60. Porter Lansing 2015-11-09 11:30

    @dithmer … I know that with diminished eyesight the mind makes even more “vivid word images” of the things you imagine than people with full vision. The things you’re picturing in your mind about teenage girls are a particular form of perversion. That’s your mind and it’s your prerogative to imagine what you will. But letting that perversion spill out onto a blog that’s open to any age reader is inappropriate, sir. It offends me and as with bullies, it’s my right to speak up and call down this offense.

  61. mike from iowa 2015-11-09 11:41

    Statistically speaking,I think the Blindman is correct-statistically speaking.

  62. Bob Newland 2015-11-09 11:42

    “Marijuana just isn’t that important to the fate of the Republic.”

    That may or may not be true. If cannabis turns out to be important in the treatment or prevention of cancer, as it seems to be, then it’s surely important, whether or not to the “fate of the Republic” is a matter of perspective, I suppose.

    However, the prohibition of cannabis (and other whimsically-chosen substances) has proven to be extremely important to “the Republic.” The “war” on some “drugs” has caused more damage to the Republic than any set of policies since slavery. Prohibition of some “drugs” has led to the enrichment of the most vicious people on the planet, and has destabilized or toppled every government south of the USA in this hemisphere.

    We will be several generations in repairing this damage.

  63. Bob Newland 2015-11-09 11:44

    Porter, I don’t understand your condemnation of Dithmer. What he said was both accurate and appropriate.

  64. Bill Fleming 2015-11-09 11:57

    I understand Porter’s objection to Dithmer’s assertion. It is simply and statistically as false as saying some South Dakotan’s daughter will vote Republican. Sure, there is a chance she might, but absolutely no guarantee that she will. Our friend The Blindman should double check his reasoning and rhetoric in light of the famous quote about “lies, damn lies and statistics.” http://doe.sd.gov/schoolhealth/yrbs.aspx

  65. Porter Lansing 2015-11-09 12:01

    If Dithmer made up and posted a visualization about my teenage daughter and her future sex life, he’d have two blind eyes and one black one.

  66. leslie 2015-11-09 12:04

    porter, doth protestus too much

  67. Bill Fleming 2015-11-09 12:12

    Easy, Porter. Keep it rational. It doesn’t do anyone any good to threaten violence, even hypothetically.

  68. Bob Newland 2015-11-09 12:13

    That’s not what he did, Porter.

  69. Porter Lansing 2015-11-09 12:21

    I’m a different kind of liberal, Fleming. I stand up to offensive people and bullies. Remember yesterday when he told women to reach into their panties and see if anything was there? That’s just foul.
    I live three blocks from the CO school for the blind and associate, have lunch and beers with and walk the same streets they train newly blind students on. I probably know more blind people than Dithmer and none have the foul mouth and mind he does.

  70. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-09 12:56

    BF, of course you know I’m talking statistically here.

    Porter, this is just for you. If you do have a teenage daughter, there is a high probability that she may have smoked or ingested pot. She could very well been out boozen it up with her friends. And she sure could have been having sex behind you back.

    You called me a perv you piece of s—, and then you had the nerv to threaten me, Wtf are you thinking? You dont know me that well.

    Now, as for ” vivid word images,” thats the way I’ve always written and thats the way I will continue to write. And by the way, I talk like that to. I was pretty quiet for the first 40 years of my life. I made my statements with my music. Then after loosing dexterity in my hands I couldnt write the music that I expressed myself with anymore , so I write.

    Porter, if you dont like some of the words I’m using sprinkle some fairy dust on em and make em nice. Or, you can get bent.

    The Blindman

  71. Bill Fleming 2015-11-09 13:07

    BD, yes, I do. That’s why I provided you with the YRBS statistics, mon. Your argument for anyone’s daughter using marijuana in high school aren’t as compelling as you might think. As for the other behaviors you mention, since they are basically irrelevant to the topic of this thread, I’ll not go into them. Overall, 29.6% have tried it “during their life”. That includes 42.4% of seniors (year 12). Statistically speaking those are all “minority” numbers.

  72. Bob Newland 2015-11-09 13:21

    We got a party here, now, don’t we? Step away from the broken bottles, boys.

  73. Porter Lansing 2015-11-09 13:34

    What any man’s teenage daughter does or doesn’t do isn’t within your vicarious fantasy’s realm of expression. Speaking and imagining about teenage girls that aren’t in your family IS perverted. Your history on this blog is ripe with off color, misogynistic and improper references to females and it time someone called you out on it. LWIY … last word is your’s

  74. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-09 13:47

    BF I dont respond well to threats. If he wants to blacken both of my eyes Cory can give him my address. I’m not a bully and I’m not a perv.

    Porter has some problem with reading comprehension, here is what was really said.

    Ok, all you little ones unzip your panys and reach in to see if you can feel anything. Whats that, theres nothing there? Surprise, surprise, surprise, now stop doing that its annoying.

    Nowhere did I mention any women or girls, never.

    Oh and Porter, you know blind people that are taught to act like blind people, I’m not one of them. If your saying that a blind person should act a certain way, well good luck with that. You are perpetuating the myth of how you think a blind person should act. The hell with that.

    Yup I’m blind, but unless someone told you I was you would never know it. I have defied the odds my whole life by doing things blind people shouldnt be able to do. And you have the nerv to tell me how a blind person should act? Again get bent, or you could always come down here for a talk. Just remember that those two black eyes will come at a steep cost.

    The Blindman

  75. Roger Cornelius 2015-11-09 14:00

    Bill,
    I have never represented myself to be a leader, or follower,of any group of Indians. Maybe Indians that could be vocal about weed just are not interested in the subject or that it has no effect on their lives.
    You have, in the past, talked about your great connections with the Indian community in and around Allen, why don’t you try and fire them up.
    I do my best to fire up friends and relatives to campaign and vote for issues that I find relevant and that is limited since I can no longer travel.

    The issue of sovereignty that Mercer brings has always bothered me and Dither is right on his point that sovereignty is what the government says it is.
    A few years back when I was doing the marketing research for the tribal casino on the Pine Ridge we were faced with the peril of a tribal/state gaming compact and approved by the BIA. I was ready for a fight, what a time to challenge not only our sovereignty but the sovereignty being held over our heads. I felt this was the time to show our strength through sovereignty.
    Tribal leaders told me to back off and this wasn’t the time for a fight, we need the gaming compact for our casino, I capitulated and they have their casino.
    At some point in time, tribes are going to have to launch an effective challenge protecting tribal sovereignty, whether it be in expanding gaming, legalizing weed, etc.

    Cory has a beautiful and courteous young daughter that I met last summer, give the manner in which she is being raised and educated hopefully she will never be tainted by drugs, alcohol or reckless sex.

  76. leslie 2015-11-09 15:19

    daily pot use among 12 grade kids is about 6%. Alcohol binge drinkers aged 8-20 is 14% and heavy drinking is 4%. that is the size of the young US population at risk.

    alcoholics average 25 years from start to finish of their drinking years.

    25% binge drink from 18 years on and 7% report heavy drinking in the last two months.

    somewhere between 1 in 5 and 1in 10 may thus be addicts/alcoholics.

  77. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-09 16:24

    Leslie, look at the stats that BF offered, both of you are willing to hang your hat on the hope that these kids are telling the truth and nothing but. If your councillor when you were in school had asked you any of those questions, would you have answered truthfully? My guess would be not every time.

    Porter, I will buy your bus ticket to Carson House if you still want to come down, Ill even give you a free shot. Why not put that chefs hat on and slip on over, you can say you beat up an old blindman. Maybe.

    The Blindman

  78. Porter Lansing 2015-11-09 16:40

    If you insult my daughter, you’ll see what happens. My bet is you’ll shut your mouth about teenage girls and their sexual experiences.

  79. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-09 16:50

    Now Porter I dont know your daughter. But if she is like you she must be a smsrmy little biitch.

    Do you want that bus money now?

    See if you call me names then I get to do the same to you.

    The Blindman

  80. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-09 16:56

    I have yet to talk about any girls sexual experiences, only in your very fertile imagination.

    The Blindman

  81. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-09 17:13

    Your history on this blog is ripe with off color, misogynistic and improper references to females and it time someone called you out on it.

    Thats fine Poter, show me the money.

    The Blindman

  82. Lynn 2015-11-09 18:56

    Cory,

    If this is sold by pot activists as such a peaceful everything is hunky dory drug why do so many of these pot threads contain threats of violence? Newland repeatedly threatening me with a claw hammer after he wipes the blood off of Brock Greenfield which is very disturbing and Porter and Bill Dithmer getting ready for a showdown. Jeepers Creepers! lol

  83. larry kurtz 2015-11-09 19:04

    South Dakota’s legislature can write a bill that would adopt legislation similar to Minnesota’s medical cannabis law but worthy of Federal Drug Administration scrutiny where real medicine could be sold by pharmacies. Legalize for adults then allow Deadwood and the tribes to grow under California organic standards then distribute on reservation and off-reservation properties under a compact putting the gaming commission as the administrative body to tax and regulate.

  84. Lynn 2015-11-09 19:04

    Cory,

    Back on topic though I suspected something like this was going to happen. Either this venture went bankrupt of they financed this given our AGs, local States Attorneys and law enforcement’s stance or the tribe would lose a lot of valuable financial resources.

    FSST leadership seemed to be in such a rush and take a high risk to make a quick buck. It’s extremely unfortunate all that investment in time and money were lost when it could of been used elsewhere and had a much more positive impact but instead they seemed to take the low road. I hope tribal members will be able to hold those who pushed for this accountable given the limited resources they have.

    I’d love to see some type of health oriented, earth friendly and sustainable industry develop on tribal lands than this crap.

  85. larry kurtz 2015-11-09 19:10

    Pass a corporate income tax, end video lootery, reduce the number of South Dakota counties to 25, turn Dakota State University into a community college, and adopt my cannabis template: the kurtz solution painted on a thumbnail.

  86. larry kurtz 2015-11-09 19:26

    Pat Powers has a penchant for capitalizing verbs after commas: damned ignorant use of English if you ask me.

  87. larry kurtz 2015-11-09 20:15

    you miserable bastards.

  88. Bob Newland 2015-11-09 20:16

    Getting a little cranky, Larry?

  89. larry kurtz 2015-11-09 20:33

    Doing similar dance with the New Mexico legislature, Bob: enter a cannabis compact with the pueblos, let Las Vegas become the off-reservation market, tag revenue for historic preservation.

  90. Porter Lansing 2015-11-09 20:50

    It’s none of my business what teens do, Kurtz. Dirty old men like you getting your rocks off thinking about it and commenting about it on a blog, with no age restrictions is just bullying … and that’s everyone’s business.

  91. larry kurtz 2015-11-09 20:53

    Porter, you’re in over your head, little dood: paddle or get out of my way, k?

  92. Porter Lansing 2015-11-09 20:57

    The only place your paddlin’ is down the toilet, Kurtz. You’ve got no way.

  93. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-09 21:22

    Hey Kurtz, isnt it something when the person that is accusing you of bullying, is the same one making threats of violence?

    Que sera, sera baby, thats the biz.

    The Blindman

  94. grudznick 2015-11-09 21:29

    The burning of the demon weed always seems to bring out a certain amount of ugliness in some people.

  95. Porter Lansing 2015-11-10 08:04

    Apparently the Santee have learned, through doing their homework, what Kurtz has NOT. Marijuana and gambling don’t mix. Casino owners wholly embrace alcohol and even give it away free because it makes their guests reckless and more willing to gamble their money wantonly. Marijuana, however tends to make users cautious. Not a trait appealing to casinos. e.g. Colorado has three towns devoted to gambling. (Think Deadwood) None of the three show a large presence of marijuana retail outlets. Colorado, however has over twenty towns devoted to skiing where the retail outlets thrive quite profitably. Any plan to make Deadwood, Flandreau or even Vegas a trial for legal cannabis distribution is fundamentally flawed at it’s core.

  96. larry kurtz 2015-11-10 08:10

    Las Vegas, New Mexico would be perfect just like Deadwood would be.

  97. Lynn 2015-11-10 08:17

    Porter Who resides in Colorado are you taking up Bill Dithmer’s Who resides in Missouri offer to pay your bus fare so you can give him two black eyes?

    Our good friend Bob Newland is cleaning off Brock Greenfield’s blood or so he stated off his claw hammer so he can hit me over the head with it.

    Larry Who resides in New Mexico is just being Larry with is hair on fire.

    Kris who knows…

    Just another day in Potopia where there is never any violence, addiction has been eliminated, every illness known to mankind has been cured, everyone loves each other with no signs of anger, all crimes have been eliminated and there are rainbows and unicorns.

  98. larry kurtz 2015-11-10 08:31

    South Dakota: Land of Infinite Virulence.

  99. jerry 2015-11-10 08:36

    Ah the sounds of drama are in the air from the drama queen herself, good morning Lynn, who resides in the echo chamber of her mind. No one is going to convince themselves to change their opinions on this blog about their feelings. But so much drama is well, just that. Carry on. In the meantime, cannabis is legal in several states. Hillary states that she will reclassify cannabis and so it shall be available no matter what. It is long past time.

  100. Bob Newland 2015-11-10 08:58

    Lynn is the only regular commentor on this website who can make Grudznick look smart by comparison.

  101. Neal 2015-11-10 09:00

    Larry, Porter, and Dithmer: nice job making grudz appear to be prescient, and Lynn reasonable. Your comments in this thread are embarrassing and detrimental to the cause. But I suppose that doesn’t matter much to any of you, since none of you actually live in SD. How about you think about that the next time you decide to open your mouths on this topic in public? Those of us with boots on the ground would appreciate it, because the way you typically conduct yourselves in these conversations actually makes it harder for us. Thanks in advance.

  102. larry kurtz 2015-11-10 09:02

    I own property in South Dakota and could be a resident there in a matter of weeks.

  103. larry kurtz 2015-11-10 09:07

    Maybe i should start using an alias here.

  104. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-10 09:07

    Thats funny Larry, some of my interest are still in SD as well.

    The Blindman

  105. Lynn 2015-11-10 09:10

    Neal,

    It’s all been archived to be used later. I can just see testimony being given or an ad campaign with a slight introduction referring to the usual characters that are pro-pot. “Send in the clowns.”

  106. larry kurtz 2015-11-10 09:12

    Bill: wild, wild whores couldn’t drag me away.
    No sweeping exits or offstage lines
    Could make me feel bitter or treat you unkind.

  107. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-10 09:14

    Kurtz, im thinking Carlos Quixote. Of course that will be in me next lifetime.

    The Blindman

  108. larry kurtz 2015-11-10 09:15

    North Dakota’s legislature is talking medical cannabis leaving Standing Rock straddling yet another border. Wyoming is actually weighing cannabis as a revenue source. Led by Democrats, Wyoming’s legislature is slated to tackle numerous cannabis bills.

  109. larry kurtz 2015-11-10 09:16

    Bill, i’m considering Pat Ploughers.

  110. larry kurtz 2015-11-10 09:17

    i tried out Pierre Curiam but Cory just deleted my comments.

  111. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-10 09:18

    Yup, your Rolling Stonned this morning, rock on.

    The Blindman

  112. larry kurtz 2015-11-10 09:20

    Wake and bake, Brother Bill.

  113. caheidelberger Post author | 2015-11-10 09:27

    Bill Dithmer, you read a lot into my psychology and politics on hypotheticals that don’t really apply to what I’m saying about Emmett and recreational pot use and don’t really indict anything I’ve said about using pot.

    The 35% of 12th graders Spike says have used marijuana aren’t alleviating the pain some grave disease is causing to their daughters. They’re just wasting time and money. They’re also smoking, which messes up the lungs no matter what weed you’re burning. I have neither sympathy for smokers nor time to invest political capital in making smoking easier.

    That said, if others succeed in making marijuana legal, I will happily advocate taxing the heck out of it, just as I advocate imposing high taxes on tobacco and alcohol and spending that money on social goods (or at least cleaning up the social ills created by that legalized activity).

    As for the cure for cancer Mr. Newland wonders about, well, I will defer to the South Dakota State medical Association, who as Mr. Kurtz pointed out to me, is forming a committee to study medical marijuana and issue a position paper. But remember: radiation can treat cancer, and morphine can ease pain, but we regulate the heck out of those things.

  114. Bob Newland 2015-11-10 09:38

    Twenty years ago California doctors started realizing that lung cancer was unknown among long-term “heavy” cannabis smokers. That was a surprise, of course, since it was both counter-intuitive and flew in the face of those who, like SoDak’s own hapless Charlie McGuigan (butt-boy to the attorney-general), said, “There are over 400 carciginians (sic) in marijuana.”

    Studies were done, and the initial findings held: Lung cancer is unknown in long-term regular cannabis smokers. Among those who smoke cannabis AND cigarettes, the rate of lung cancer is lower than in the general population.

    The indications of these findings are, of course, enormous, and, of course, largely ignored by almost everyone with the ability to broadcast them.

  115. larry kurtz 2015-11-10 09:42

    Wyoming is tackling civil forfeiture laws: the life blood of the law enforcement/corrections industry. South Dakota’s legislature would expand police powers even as it adopts my template.

    Little wonder cops abuse their families, alcohol, drugs, food, power, detainees and even occasionally murder their wives.

  116. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-10 09:43

    I can see that as long as it doesnt touch your lives, the rest of us can just take a flying leap.

    Thats fine with me as you are at least telling the truth about how you feel. Some of us are running out of time waiting for legal relief.

    I still think your a hypocrite because you would be using the tax money from the devil weed.

    The Blindman

  117. bearcreekbat 2015-11-10 09:44

    In other marijuana threads Lynn says marijuana smokers are “addicts.” Then she tell Fleming “I really like Chris Christie and believe what he says. We need to get these people help.”

    Christie said: “drug addiction is a disease and we should treat it as such. That those suffering from addiction deserved compassion and help, not stigma and shame,”

    Now Lynn’s version of “compassion and help, not stigma and shame” says:

    “I can just see testimony being given or an ad campaign with a slight introduction referring to the usual characters that are pro-pot. “Send in the clowns.”

    That and some snarky sarcastic comments about Blindman, Porter, larry, Bob, seems a bit inconsistent with the idea of treating these addicts with compassion rather than stigma and shame.

    It looks like Lynn might be channeling the Ben Carson trouble with the truth problem.

  118. Lynn 2015-11-10 09:49

    Cory have you thought of changing the name of your blog to Dakotans for Pot or the Marijuana Chronicles Dakota edition?

  119. jerry 2015-11-10 09:51

    Very good Mr. Newland. In fact, there are studies that Mr. Kurtz, I believe posted, that gave positive treatments for lung disease itself. As I remember, his response was to Steve Hickey and the illness he suffers from. No matter how all of this is discussed, it is clear from a clinical point of view that medical marijuana is a very viable treatment for many of our ailments and should be allowed as that form of treatment.

  120. larry kurtz 2015-11-10 09:54

    jerry, i have reactivated my Facebook account after learning many in Deadwood and some in local government there support my template.

  121. larry kurtz 2015-11-10 09:56

    Too funny: Powers asked Democrats to comment on a post but he deleted every Democrat who responded.

  122. Porter Lansing 2015-11-10 10:07

    Deadwood is now and always has been about alcohol, gambling, prostitution and violence. Spearfish is about marijuana … should your template be taken seriously by investors.

  123. Lynn 2015-11-10 10:15

    Porter Who resides in Colorado let us know how your trip to Missouri and boxing match with Bill Dithmer Who resides in Missouri goes. Are you on the bus now or packing for your trip? Can we expect video coverage?

  124. Porter Lansing 2015-11-10 10:23

    Awwww …. Lynn. It’s time for us to “forgive and forget”, sweetheart. I’m going to forgive your ignorance and try my best to forget that I ever became acquainted with your foul personality.

  125. jerry 2015-11-10 10:24

    Echo echo echo, as this adds to the comment count, please proceed Lynn. With nothing more constructive than instigating more drama, please answer a question that I posed to you some time ago. How will you react when you are in your cancer bed, full of nausea and the only thing that will give you some dignity and relief is cannabis, what shall you do?

  126. Bob Newland 2015-11-10 10:36

    Say, Lynn, how much prison time do you think is about right for committing self-abuse?

  127. jerry 2015-11-10 10:37

    Lynn, How about this one then, How will you react to a loved one that is going through intense suffering with the nausea that is brought on with chemo. Their only hope for dignity is to develop an appetite for food intake is cannabis, will you deny them? Will you standby blocking the door of assistance because of your ignorance?

  128. Lynn 2015-11-10 10:38

    Those poor skateboarders at Mitchell and other skateboard park, snowboarders, late teens and 20 somethings that seem to have chronic pain issues that would normally afflict those in their senior years. Will they finally be able to get some relief via a script here in South Dakota like in Colorado or California at a 24/7 medical pot clinic for $25.00 and a bring a friend coupon? We will know next November.

  129. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-10 10:39

    This is rich. Poter telling Larry how to read towns in the hills. I swear if Porters brain was ginned weed there wouldnt be enough in the bowl to catch a buzz.

    The Blindman

  130. larry kurtz 2015-11-10 13:24

    The Senate today passed the FY2016 Military Construction and Veterans Affairs (MilCon-VA) Appropriations Bill, which includes language to allow Veterans Administration (VA) doctors to recommend medical marijuana to their patients in states where medical marijuana is legal. The vote is the first time the U.S. Senate has ever moved marijuana law reform legislation forward on the Senate floor. The language was included as an amendment in the Senate Appropriations committee in May.

    http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/2015/11/senate-approves-funding-bill-allows-veterans-access-medical-marijuana

  131. larry kurtz 2015-11-10 13:28

    South Dakota
    Yea R Rounds, Mike SD
    Yea R Thune, John SD

  132. Porter Lansing 2015-11-10 13:32

    You need some insult training, Dithmer…
    That pole-barn you call a business is a disgrace to your dead brother Carson and so are you. Someday, I’ll drop by and piss in the indoor sewer that someone’s conning your half-blind ass into believing is a swimming pool … you know, there on Highway Cc outside of Gilman. PS … What’s in the dome? Weed garden?

  133. Porter Lansing 2015-11-10 13:37

    Sorry, Kurtz. The VA bill also bans the removal of prisoners from Gitmo to USA. Veto Veto Veto

  134. jerry 2015-11-10 14:27

    Sigh, no answers from Lynn, just that same hollow echo.

  135. jerry 2015-11-10 14:35

    Interesting that Tehran John and Thune voted for the VA bill for medical marijuana and yet no republicans from South Dakota have gone on the record to support the same. Must not be any veterans in South Dakota that are being represented by republicans is the only reason I can see. Clearly Tehran John and Rounds seem to be representing veterans interests, but where in South Dakota are these veterans and why are they not being heard from legislatively. You would think that as they now have cover, the little tykes would surface to either support it or condemn it, but nothing that I am aware of. Anybody know?

  136. Kris 2015-11-10 20:08

    free the plant! free the pepole!

  137. caheidelberger Post author | 2015-11-11 13:12

    Kris seems to be impervious to coherent speech and logical rebuttal. Marijuana is not the keystone of liberty.

  138. Bob Newland 2015-11-11 13:34

    I’m sure you know someone, Cory, who claims to be a “progressive,” whom you would just as soon never said another word.

  139. Bob Newland 2015-11-11 13:34

    Tell me if I used “who” and “whom” correctly.

  140. caheidelberger Post author | 2015-11-11 14:19

    “would just as soon” defies my grammatical analysis—something is ellipsized from that idiom. But I’ll take a stab:

    “I would just as soon that he never said another word.” The person (pronoun) in question is the subject of the clause in question, the action that I would just as soon he not do. Subject => who:

    “I know someone who claims to be a progressive who I would just as soon never said another word.”

    As evidence, consider this synonymous sentence with identical structure:

    “I know someone who claims to be a progressive who I wish would never say another word.”

    Where’s Kurt Evans? You with me on this one, Kurt?

  141. Bill Fleming 2015-11-11 15:01

    Yes, “who” (subjective case). “Whom” would be someone to whom “Mr. Who” said “another word” to. (Like Bob, perhaps.) :-)

  142. Bill Fleming 2015-11-11 15:05

    Oh, oh. I have a redundant “to” up there ^ resulting it either a dangling participle or a hanging preposition. Looks like I might need a grammar suppository.

  143. Bob Newland 2015-11-11 15:07

    I still am not sure how to use who and whom.

  144. Curt 2015-11-11 15:32

    Nominative vs objective … who if it’s nominative (who is that?); whom if objective as in the object of a preposition (to whom or for whom).

  145. Bill Dithmer 2015-11-11 15:46

    From THE CHURCH OF BILL

    To the veterans of this country, thank you.

    To the families of these veterans, thank you.

    And to those people that ride the seats of power I give you this. Those elected positions you hold, the lives you are able to live, and the safe feeling you feel, were and are only possible because of these vets.

    Yet at every turn you find ways to avoid facing the problems that these vets have. Problems I might add that they wouldn’t have if it werent for your childish behavior.

    Doesnt it bother anyone that while our congress recieves millions of bucks in campaign contributions from defense contractors there are homeless vets, for any reason?

    Doesnt it bother anyone else that while the red carpet is rolled out for these contractors, the only red the vet sees is the red tape keeping him or her or their families from living a better life. That bothers me.

    Now I’d like to address a post I made here yesterday. It was about a young man that got mad at me because he read things that werent there into my writing. He tried to insult me by running down everything Ive done here. That doesnt bother me any, but talking bad about my Uncle Cars does.

    This man is supposed to be very smart but in the space of less then 24 hrs, he threatened physical violence, and environmental tererism on a social media blog. So much for being smart, they must not hand out common sense with brains.

    After thinking about this last night I decided that there would be no more trading of insults with him. I do this not because of him but because of the man he tried to run down, my Uncle Cars.

    I need to take you back to the fall of 1970. It was a cold wet rainy night when the teams took the field. I was the student manager and it was my job to have a dry ball ready whenever there was a break in the action. At times there just wasnt enough room between ticks on the clock to do what I needed to do.

    We had a head coach that hated me and would take every opportunity to make his feelings felt. At that time I weighed 95 lbs. To him, if you were that small and blind you were subhuman.! One of the times when I was slow getting the ball dried off he yelled at me, “cant you do anything right you blind son of a bitch?” Very few people will ever understand how that feels.

    He did this in front of the principal, the superintendent, the team, and the town, and nobody said a word.

    That night we went back to the ranch and the next morning Uncle Cars and I rode to look at the cows. He knew that I was acting funny and asked why, so I told him. He then told me something that changed my life.

    “Bill, we have tried to give you as much of a chance at a normal life as we can but for some people that will never be enough. There are always going to be people like the coach. You cant change them anymore then you can change yourself.” And then this, “they expect you to act like they think you should act. You have to decide how you want to live the rest of your life, are you going to let someone else make that decision for you or are you ready to do it yourself?”

    That was the last time I let another human look down on me. I sure didnt want to go back to school on monday, but I did. It took a long time before I could let my guard down enough to enjoy life but I finally did. School is a cruel place, and when your hate is as bad as mine the end couldnt come soon enough.

    That coach took Kadoka to its only undefended season. Then he did a couple terms in the state pen for bad checks and booze.

    Porter Lansing, if your reading this now you know that a little thing like your words can never bring me half as much grief as what was done to me that night over forty years ago, thanks to the hero you tried to make fun of.

    Uncle Cars died of cancer. Until his last week I was with him every day. At that time I hunted just about every night, or thats what I told everyone.

    Sometimes when I told Mom and Uncle Cars that I was going hunting, I never even loaded dogs in the dogbox. I’d back up to the north kennel for a couple of minutes and then drive out of the yard. It didnt matter where I went just as long as nobody could see me. I would go down on the creek someplace, turn the radio on and set there and cry for a couple of hours.

    I cried because of all the things this man did for me that no one else could. I cried because the one thing that I wanted at that time I would never be able to have, more time with this man. And I cried because I was selfish and needed him to continue to guide me.

    So you see Porter, those things you said about Carson House dont bother me. Life isnt an insult contest, or it shouldnt be. But you should at least know something about my uncle if you want to continue.

    He was and is one of the most decorated veterans to serve from South Dakota ever. He was a member of the First Special Service Force, The Devils Brigade.

    When an invasion was going to happen, he would have already been behind the lines for days crawling on the ground laying wire for communications and intelligence.

    This man was a hero. He did things that you could never in your wildest dreams do. Him and his generation made it possible for the two of us to insult each other. They kept us free, and protected us from the dangers that were world wide at that time. From the beginning until now these men and women have protected your lives many times with their blood.

    It will never be enough, but thank you.

    The Blindman

  146. leslie 2015-11-11 15:53

    are jackley’s sentiments sincere about helping the tribe in any way possible, or is this “anything but how the feds do it because they are being mean to us on EB5”, or are Tune/Noem’s suicide concerns raised last week, and wanting DOI to study it for them, sincere? I don’t trust those republicans.

  147. Bill Fleming 2015-11-11 15:55

    On your last trip, who went to the C store with whom, Bob? (See now?)

  148. Bill Fleming 2015-11-11 15:59

    U da man, Dithmer.

  149. mikeyc, that's me! 2015-11-11 16:47

    Well said, Blindman.
    I salute you, too!

  150. Bob Newland 2015-11-11 17:08

    I think so, Bill. TY.

    Dithmer, I appreciate your story.

  151. jerry 2015-11-11 18:25

    Thanks blindman, from an old grunt.

  152. Porter Lansing 2015-11-11 18:41

    @Dithmer … Do you think you can openly insult my daughter and I’m not going for you jugular? You deserve every bit of it. Think twice before you malign people you don’t know.

  153. caheidelberger Post author | 2015-11-11 18:49

    Let’s introduce Bob to Russian, where “who” has five distinct forms across six cases. Yum.

  154. Lynn 2015-11-11 18:51

    Fellas relax! Toke up! Remember pot is supposed to be the peaceful no crimes ever committed, black market is totally eliminated, governments are rich with tax revenue, crime and disease have been eliminated utopia. Oh yeah teachers are rich in the land of potopia. :)

  155. Porter Lansing 2015-11-11 19:02

    @ChurchLady … Lynn, rarely have I seen someone so misinformed about a subject try to act like an expert.

  156. jerry 2015-11-11 19:07

    There is an echo that I hear again,
    oh of course, it is Lynn again.

    How would you react to you or a loved one that is being treated for cancer. You or yours are suffering from nausea due to chemo and you cannot seem to develop an appetite. Will you ingest a proven treatment for the problem Lynn, or will you just let you or yours suffer with not a care?

  157. Lynn 2015-11-11 19:15

    Aside from what is offered under the Minnesota Medical Marijuana law there is one of many natural non-mind altering alternative to help with nausea, heartburn and even someone suffering from a hangover or migraines. Kudzu which is known as “The scourge of the South” was brought over from Japan and is an invasive species down in the South East. Kudzu powder preferably organic could be a very good option that is highly valued in the Macrobiotic community which uses food as medicine.

  158. mike from iowa 2015-11-11 19:24

    The hell with kudzu,what say you about all them dead weasels who wouldn’t be dead if you and your friends didn’t fight legalizing pot. Their blood is on your head.

  159. Lynn 2015-11-11 19:32

    An Organic Japanese Kukicha Twig tea which is alkaline and being from a twig rather than leaves hardly has any trace of caffeine in it can help with heartburn and nausea. It is a very neutral non-offensive tea that could be consumed all day hot or cold and could help prevent or fight cancer. This is one of many that is part of Japanese traditional foods and used by the Macrobiotic community.

    These may not fit in to a constant justification and arguing to use intoxicants like pot but there are other alternatives out there that are non-addictive mind altering drugs and much healthier.

  160. jerry 2015-11-11 19:34

    So an organic weed that has medicinal purposes…Damn, where have I heard about something like that before? hmmm hmmm

  161. jerry 2015-11-11 19:35

    You use this in place of alcohol because it gives you the same feeling as having alcohol. A drug then, no?

  162. jerry 2015-11-11 19:36

    Safe with absolutely no side effects I am sure, or are there? Do tell.

  163. jerry 2015-11-11 19:39

    I am gonna take a guess at this, but now I know what kind of tea you imbibe in. kudzu, its whats for after dinner.

  164. Lynn 2015-11-11 19:47

    Kudzu is not an intoxicant. You could try to smoke it I suppose but you won’t get high. It was brought over to help feed cattle in the South and grew like crazy but has been used in Japan and China for hundreds of years. The problem in the South is that it is often sprayed with herbicides to limit it’s growth and that is why I stress to get certified Organic.

    There is always the possibility there could be an allergic reaction to anything but the Okinawans I believe still have the longest life spans in the world and Japanese are 2nd or up there and we are talking not just age but maintaining good health all those years. Macrobiotic and Traditional Japanese foods are options.

    Again there are a number of options besides Kudzu and using mind altering drugs to treat nausea.

  165. Lynn 2015-11-11 19:50

    Jerry,

    As I finished a response above your not really interested in what alternatives there are out there and that is why I rarely respond to a few regulars here that are just replying for the sake of arguing, enabling and justifying their chronic use or addiction of an intoxicant. It is what it is and predictable.

  166. mike from iowa 2015-11-11 19:51

    Stick to the pot program,Lynn. Why do you hate weasels? How many days in jail are appropriate for killing weasels?

  167. Bob Newland 2015-11-11 19:55

    Porter, you are surprisingly like Lynn in that you don’t really get what’s being said.

  168. Lynn 2015-11-11 19:55

    Mike Who Resides in Iowa,

    If you post your address I can have a coloring book created nice and simple covering what I have stated and a box of Crayola crayons. That will keep you busy for a while. lol

  169. Porter Lansing 2015-11-11 19:59

    Enlighten us Newland.

  170. Bob Newland 2015-11-11 20:04

    Lynn who resides in her colon, enlighten Porter, please.

  171. mike from iowa 2015-11-11 20:09

    Only if I have to stay within the lines,Lynn. Why-do-you-hate-weasels-?

  172. Porter Lansing 2015-11-11 20:15

    Newland … If you’re referring to something the pervert in MO wrote, I didn’t read it past scanning to the point he mentioned my name. The guy’s self consumed and a poor writer.

  173. grudznick 2015-11-11 21:18

    I, for one, think Mr. Dithmer is third on the list of interesting writers only because I tend to favor the writings of my good friends Bill and Bob. Bill, in particular, has a penchant.

  174. jerry 2015-11-11 21:52

    The noxious weed called kudzu is just a weed. If it were such a wonder drug, doctors would prescribe it and then the FDA would get involved with it. Give it to your loved ones and tell them that is the best you can do, also, bring in Ben Carson to give you the edge you need to sell this crap. Tell him you believe the Pyramids stored grain.

  175. Kurt Evans 2015-11-13 19:42

    Bob Newland wrote:

    I’m sure you know someone, Cory, who claims to be a “progressive,” whom you would just as soon never said another word.

    Tell me if I used “who” and “whom” correctly.

    Cory wrote:

    “would just as soon” defies my grammatical analysis—something is ellipsized from that idiom. But I’ll take a stab:

    “I would just as soon that he never said another word.” The person (pronoun) in question is the subject of the clause in question, the action that I would just as soon he not do. Subject => who:

    “I know someone who claims to be a progressive who I would just as soon never said another word.”

    As evidence, consider this synonymous sentence with identical structure:

    “I know someone who claims to be a progressive who I wish would never say another word.”

    Where’s Kurt Evans? You with me on this one, Kurt?

    Yes, Cory, that’s a pretty good analysis. As suggested by your synonymous sentence, the word would in the idiom “would just as soon” has the archaic meaning of will or wish, and what’s “ellipsized” is “as not …”

    In other words, you’d want the professing progressive under discussion to remain silent just as soon (meaning at least as much) as you’d want him or her not to remain silent.

    Bob wrote:

    I still am not sure how to use who and whom.

    Rearrange the phrase into a straightforward, independent sentence and try substituting either he and him, or they and them. In this case, rearrange “whom you would just as soon never said another word” to “you would just as soon [he or him] never said another word.” If he fits, it’s who. If him fits, it’s whom.

    If it’s plural, they and them work the same way.

  176. Bob Newland 2015-11-13 20:10

    I think I picked up something or two of value from the preceding English lesson. Thank you, Kurt and Cory, for engaging in the discussion. It also goes to show you that blogs have value. Y’know, “…if it enlightens just one 67-year-old curmudgeon….”

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